Guild Wars 2

I think we can all agree, this is getting out of hand and becoming far less enjoyable.

The 60 man zergs. (or rather, the blobs as a zerg would imply they’re being lead by a single mind with coordination, but they’re usually not. It’ll be a small core group on ts and 30+ pugs looking to karma train)

WvW has become even worse than the queensdale champ train in that, everyone on the map gathers up, spams 1 a bunch and either rolls over the enemy because they have far superior numbers or scatters like roaches because they’re getting creamed.

Now granted, there are good “zerg busting” guilds out there that try to fight these (I’m in one and 20vs60 is just a bit more than we can handle) but a regular commander, without his entire force on ts and running synergized builds, has no chance at all.

This is not a cry thread about “fairness” though, but a question of “who’s having fun” in these fights? The members of the 60 man blob who spam 1 and hope they can tag a few of the enemy? The 20 man squad trying desperately to defend their fully fortified keep against this mindless monster? And what could/should be done about this?

So an idea was given, not by me, but I like it and want to propose it as something to be considered and discussed, about implementing a “proximity debuff” to balance fights somewhat and maybe even discourage “blobing” a bit. It could go along the lines of: every 5 players over 30 in “x” proximity results in a 50 stat point debuff. (just a rough idea folks, don’t get hung up on these numbers) Something like this could really take the wind out of the sails of the karma train and return a player vs player element to wvw, making it feasible to fight these groups and more rewarding to have coordinated teams rather than massive numbers. And even with a “300” stat point debuff at 60 people, c’mon you still have 60 people.

A couple of questions pop into my mind with this though. If I’m commanding and don’t want the massive debuff, how do I keep people from blobbing up on my tag? Possible solutions: give commander ability to hide their tag from all but their squad just like joining a squad allows you to hide other tags. (I personally like this idea for guild raids too. We use the target to follow our driver but if he could hide his tag from all but us, it would allow individual parties to target specific enemies and not lose our “tag”) Also, and this has been brought up many times before and still remains a good idea in my opinion, allow commanders to select a tag color. Zerg getting too big? “blue squad full, need people on red tag”

So I’ve become bit long-winded but would appreciate a quality think tank here and who knows, maybe Anet might even listen if we come up with something good =)

Diamond Skin.
Counters all the face on keyboard rolling necros/engis/condiwars that the meta promotes.
I love it.

They should make a new race which is essentially just giant talking hedgehogs which can walk on 2 legs. They would form an order called The Misthogs, who are sworn to prevent the battle in the mists from spilling into living world. These should replace the legendary defenders because lets be honest, the existing models are functional but boring.

Oh also, instead of firing death barrages, the misthogs will curl into a ball and crush the approaching zerg with a death roll.

I can dream xD

Legendary defenders should come with lasercannons and handheld nukes, riding on twoheaded dragons breathing the very essence of death!

Don’t worry, they’re adding a lot more hard to get weapons.

an plzz dnt tlk lik dis plzz tnx

People are FAR too hung up on being special snowflakes.

Do you like how it looks on your character? Yes? Good. Who cares if someone else has it too? How, exactly, does someone else enjoying the look of an item ruin your enjoyment of the same item?

Don’t worry…you’re still “special” even if someone else is wearing the same dress at the party.

Jeez, just deal with it. It’s a kitten skin.
What if an online game you paid for years suddenly became free-to-play? Are you going to whine because all the new players get to play for free?

Watch it OP, I’m on the phone with the jelly school, mkay ?

Well now is good time start to use some real weapons. Cool looking longbow is still just stupid longbow.

I paid 550 gold for ’The Hunter’ strictly for its skin. The ’Dwarven Plated Sniper Rifle’ which is very common in sPvP shares the same skin. Am I upset that I paid 550 gold for a look many others will now get for free? Absolutely not.

How other people play their game does not affect me. I am still happy with the way my character looks.

facepalm come on PT member… we are better than this.

mm im having quite an enjoyable time reading these roleplaying rants. please go on.

jcbroe.4329:

warriorjrd.8695:

jcbroe.4329:

Well GvG is exclusive to Guild Wars 1 at this point, so anybody that actually advertises as GvG is beyond hope and should be avoided at all costs if you actually want to exhibit any semblance of actually being good at this game, since the reality is that it’s just big blobs of players fighting other blobs of players trying to stack as many frustrating mechanics together as humanly possible to out blob another blob.

Learn the difference between a pug blob and WvW guild group. GvG guild make up the majority of the regular/hardcore wvwers, atleast in EU. There might not be an official mode for GvG, but considering Anet put a massive arena in the OS and removed the bloodlust from that area, means they gave players a gvg arena, just not with a separate game mode. GvG is still a big part of wvw, and it’s actually smaller than it used to be. Just because Anet is too wound up in their dreamland esports of Tpvp, doesn’t mean GvG is a GW1 exclusive.

It was only done to remove all the players who weren’t going to help with the objective of WvW to take them off the map so players who were actually trying to play WvW objectively could successfully queue into maps.

GvG in this game is a massive blob of uninterpretable graphics which ultimately just just groups of players spamming AoE at other groups of players at the command or request of somebody who tries to take charge of the chaos.

It’s actually pretty insulting to me personally as a GW1 competitive GvG vet that people in this game even have the audacity to think that there is any sort of competitive nature to large groups spamming AoE at each other. It’s competitive roleplaying, or the equivalent of larping in real life, and then those same people have the audacity to express elitism and are condescending towards everybody else because they think their made up “game mode” makes them good.

And I PLAY in a guild that occasionally GvGs. But to the best of my knowledge, they’ll accept all players because they play all aspects of the game, and they sure as hell don’t run their mouths off about it and try to make everybody feel inferior than them.

I’ll believe that GvG is a real game mode and is competitive when I see a leaderboard for GvG. I think that’s fair. Until then, my advice was meant to be, extracted from my opinion, that nobody who wants to play ranger should be discouraged by a group of players that only matter inside their only little world they’ve created that has no effect on the rest of the game whatsoever.

Well a blob is over 40 players, so I want to see a video of a 40v40 gvg please. Most GvG’s are 15v15 or 20v20. you very rarely see anything larger than that. Surely if it’s as easy as you make it sound your guild should be top ranked in gvg then no? Why not try facing a top gvg guild and see how well that goes for you. GvG requires cooperation and coordination, it’s a different kind of skill to spvp or roaming. I’m not talking 80 man blobs you see in EB, I’m talking about coordinated guild groups, that are able to wipe those 80 man blobs with not more than 20 men.

Perhaps you should spend more time in wvw and maybe take a trip to an EU server that is run by wvw guilds. This isn’t GW1 anymore, your knowledge of gvg there doesn’t carry over here. Even if the GvG’s they partake in are self organised and run by the players. If you beat a good guild, it doesn’t matter if you did it through a mode anet installed or one you made, you still beat a good guild. Judging by the way you talk about wvw I’m getting the feeling you are an spvper, and these gvg’s your guild partakes in are held there, where I suppose it’s more official. Honestly get out into wvw routinely, take a look at these guilds, and you will see that their elitism (however arrogant and unnecessary) is justified by their performance.

And while I agree that no class should be discriminated I can sympathize with the wvw/gvg guilds. Ranger’s strengths are very limited in guild groups, they excel elsewhere. If they don’t need you, they don’t take you. That’s how most wvw guilds work

Post bugs, hacks, glitches
Moderators infract posts
Dont know what went wrong

we asked where balance
he asked where we need more siege
took spreadshot to face

Victory.2879:

I’d reply to this thread but I’d get another infraction point.

Better watch out because all those infraction might just retaliate with worse RNG for your account, no precursor drop for you mate #tinfoilhat

Not a bad suggestion though…

I’d reply to this thread but I’d get another infraction point.

Reverence.6915:

Get in contact with an ANet employee and have them track these people. We’ve done it before with great effect.

At 1st I was like “really?!”, but then I realised it was April fools day… Good try though.