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Living World S2E7: Seeds of Truth [SPOILERS]

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

The Cons

  • Annoyed that this is yet another filler episode in story steps. At least this felt longer than before, there wasn’t a “just talk” or “very short boss-fight only” instance like the first two of three in E6.
  • I agree that the Pale Tree’s non-chalantness was bothersome.
  • The Memory Seeds feel like a dues ex. If such things existed then why was Riannoc’s death such a mystery? Why did we have to use a dangerous ritual from the Crystal Desert to discern his fate?
  • Annoyed that the PS claims that the centaurs turned hostile on Caithe and Faolain when it was clear that Faolain had instigated them just by her personality. I suppose the point, however, was that the instigation happened while Caithe wasn’t looking (if you go in with another person, you can avoid being the instance owner and thus watch Faolain instigate the centaurs – as I did – but the instance owner is stuck out of sight of it – annoying but also cool). Felt like unnecessary defense of an obvious in-the-fault character.
  • The biggest issue to me, however, is Malomedies’ dialogue at the Gathering.

We went so long without losing one of our own, but three of our newly awakened have been killed already. This is unacceptable.
→ This is life, Malomedies. At least now we know that we can die.
I worry about Riannoc. He’s going so far from home. What if he never returns?
→ Many will leave the Grove before all is said and done. We cannot stop them.

Where’s the issue in this?

  1. Riannoc was the firs sylvari to die.
  2. “We all felt it when he died. It was like a part of the Dream was torn away—but we never knew why. Or how.” – Caithe’s words at the end of Bramble Walls and Sharpened Thorns (second step of chapter 3 for sylvarI)
  3. “When he died—the sun dimmed, and the Dream wept.” – Avatar of the Tree’s mention of Riannoc’s death, again the Dream was affected greatly by Riannoc’s death. Said in same two story instances as above
  4. THE MOST GLARING ISSUE IN THIS:
    [quote]They gathered by the Pale Tree, and rain swelled upon her upturned leaves, dripping in slow sparks to the earth below. Her roots cradled the firstborn that lay among them, his body covered in a dark blanket like moss over a grave. Malomedies was only sleeping, struggling against exhausting nightmares. From time to time, he called out, and Kahedins soothed him, placing a damp compress to his forehead in the hope that he would find rest. The healer looked up to the others, face filled with worry.

“Will he survive? Or will he…die? As Riannoc did?” The question whispered in every heart, but it was Niamh that gave it voice.

“The Mother says he will live,” Kahedins murmured, but it was little comfort.

Malomedies had been beautiful, as graceful as a willow kneeling by a stream. Now his face bore the carved scars of ill-treatment, and the branches of his once- iridescent hair had been broken and pruned into splintered, colorless pieces. One leg was withered as if kept too long from the sun, and where his fleshlike bark still clung to the vines of his torso, there were a thousand small holes.

“We must kill them all.” Cadeyrn’s eyes flashed dark gold, and his hand clenched around the hilt of his sword. [/quote]
THEY KNEW RIANNOC DIED BEFORE MALOMEDIES WAS EXPERIMENTED ON. THE STORY INSTANCE OUTRIGHT TALKS ABOUT MALOMEDIES BEING EXPERIMENTED ON. Riannoc died – and was known to be dead well before this story instance.

Come on, this is not hard to keep together.

I loved the first instance, and the second was interesting mechanically (not to mention made me feel like I had an obligation to shoot Vorpp…), but overall? This feels like another cliffhanger just to manufacture some suspense. I don’t feel hooked. I don’t feel entranced or excited about what might happen next. I feel angry that we’re advancing through the narrative in stutterstep.

Also this.

The Pros

  • I LOVED finally seeing the dark past of asura and sylvari interaction. Even Malomedies being experimented upon was only barely touched upon in the game, and only for Night sylvari in the PS as far as I know.
  • Fiana! We see “a dead secondborn!”:
  • Trahearne talks about sylvari having free will. Proof they’re not dragon minions for dragon minions hold no free will! hah!
  • Interesting lore hint on the ‘energy’ within sylvari.
  • The jumping puzzle is just omg <3 – I can forgive the filler-ness because of this jumping puzzle. But really, enough fillers…
Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

Living World S2E7: Seeds of Truth [SPOILERS]

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

I loved the first instance, and the second was interesting mechanically (not to mention made me feel like I had an obligation to shoot Vorpp…), but overall? This feels like another cliffhanger just to manufacture some suspense. I don’t feel hooked. I don’t feel entranced or excited about what might happen next. I feel angry that we’re advancing through the narrative in stutterstep.

Also, on the Vorpp thing… does anyone else think it’s weird how everyone but Faolain seems to have played down the decision? The guy tortured and massacred at least a dozen young, naive sylvari- essentially killing children- seemingly to the extent that he blew up their cages when it was clear he had lost, even though he seemed to know they were intelligent beings that could experience pain… and Canach just treats it like something instructive, our character shrugs it off pretty quickly, and the quest summary doesn’t even mention that people died. I know that Anet has had issues in the past capturing how serious death can be, but this is a new low.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

Are the Maguuma Wastes about to flood?

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Posted by: perilisk.1874

perilisk.1874

Well, even if they are the ones who build it. The question is how they want to get it out.

They seem to have a tunnel leading toward an old ship that is wrecked off the coast to the south of Metrica Province, based on their map. Alternatively, it could be foreshadowing a flood of some sort (they will collect two of each of the shinies and place them on the ship, etc. etc.) in which case somehow going straight up seems more likely.

Ceterum censeo Sentim Punicam esse delendam

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Posted by: Rhaegar.1203

Rhaegar.1203

Finding that ship was a very Lost moment for me. WTF?

I don’t think the skritt are building that ship; I think they are repairing it. It seems it’s Krytan in origin (It looks a lot like the ones you see near Orr, that were capsized during Zaithan’s flood).

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Posted by: versidia.4520

versidia.4520

The amount of wáter needed to fill those caverns would be too large to be done in one update, and may break some parts of the jumping puzzle imo.
I think we may go back further in time and find wáter in some places of the map. That or the intention was to have wáter in these flashbacks but didn’t work.

If there is a flood however a lot of skritt may die, although it seems they are preparing for it xD.

(edited by versidia.4520)

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

I suspect those giant (and I mean GIGANTIC) caverns underground are in fact those water tables that have dried up – at the very bottom in some places you can find pools of water.

The more common Elder Dragon theory for the maguuma drying up was Primordus’ activity, not Mordremoth. There’s basically three versions though – the canonical theory of scholars which was “Elder Dragons did it”; the theory began by Thalador that “Primordus did it”; and then a position I suggested was that the water tables did not dry up, but lost their magic from the Bloodstones (due to not ED tampering, but White Mantle/Mursaat/simple age). “Mordremoth did it” is 110% in-game speculation alone, or at least was never presented in long-standing view on the forums here.

I do think the water splashing is a bug. It seems that Anet’s been fooling with the water level of the zone, trying to get it to read multiple levels rather than the standard across many games of the water level being the same heigh across the zone/level (sometimes it can move, often it cannot). But strangely, in the Silverwastes, they’re at different levels – the pools in the deep caverns are far lower than the drake pool in Northern Silverwastes.

I think the existence of the hylek in the Far Silverwastes (I keep typing Far Shiverpeaks >.> – could Anet be any more unimaginative with their zone names?) is due to the fact that the so-called “Far Silverwastes” was in fact the Mamnoon Lagoon (which was the biggest surface water in the Maguuma – I’m shocked that it’s fully dried up despite there being water on the unexplored map! I am shocked and sad!). It may be more that the area is an ancestral land for them. Those “passed out” hylek actually have dialogue that they are not part of the same tribe as those that are wandering about (the passed out hylek are blue; the others are red – according to the blue hylek, the red claim to be chosen by the Sun, which may mean they’ve found a way to survive in harsh heat/lack of water).

The hylek explorer also mentioned tribes having once been in the Maguuma Jungle. This seems to be the tribes we now see, further explaining why these hylek are here – this is their ancestral land.

Nochtli’s story has been seen to be a metaphor for the death of the Elder Dragons – according to observations about The All, killing the dragons will leave the world out of balance, destroying it. Water is magic; beast is dragon; hero is us.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

Plot Holes, and more in Personal Story

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/My-Greatest-Fear-Plotline/first

Primary thread. From said thread:

I inquired about these concerns, and our narrative director shared the following:

Thank you so much for your comments. We realize that the changes that were made have impacted the personal story, and we are working to fix this. This requires a good deal of resources, so we do not have a set date for when these fixes will be implemented. We appreciate your patience and will update with more information as it becomes available.

This topic has over 10 threads about it spread across at least three forums.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

We are being removed!

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Astral Projections.7320

A pity. I don’t normally post here but I do read some of the ongoing threads. If they combine so many forums I don’t see how these specialty forums can keep a discussion going.

We are being removed!

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Posted by: Lambent.6375

Lambent.6375

Please don’t kill us.

“Caithe, someday you’ll see, Tyria needs me. -Scarlet”

We are being removed!

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Posted by: Riesty.9075

Riesty.9075

… oh yes we get merged in the we whant mounts section..
come on anet no one ask for a forum revamp
please emergency call john smith save our little area !
and talk with gaile

We are being removed!

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Posted by: Ensign.2189

Ensign.2189

Awww, that’s too bad. I enjoyed this little community. If they expect questions about the economy to be lumped in with the heaping pile of garbage that is general discussion I guess I’m out.

[Suggestions] Gemstore Items

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Posted by: Sankekur.9182

Sankekur.9182

If don’t really want to look through thousands of posts, so sorry if some of that has been brought up already.
I really really want the Vampiric Dragon Sword from GW1.
To be honest, I would like a lot of the weapon designs from gw 1 again. They are less “cartoony” and more realistic. And, this is kinda off topic, but, dare I say it, I would like new weapon skins that are NOT aquired from Gemstore and are NOT aquired from BL Tickets!
And more armor sets from GW1. The Kurzick and Luxon Light armors, and the Druid Armors for Ranger. Like the Kryta Medium Armor Skin.

Tribal armor set

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

Invictus.1503

The Tribal armor set and other armor sets that were sPvP-exclusive will be obtainable again at some point in the future. There is no ETA as to when this will happen.

Excellent, thank you for the reply and clarification. Hopefully we’ll be able to obtain them through non-PvP means as I’ve been wanting it since launch (beta allowed the armor in PvE). Appreciate the response.

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Posted by: Seabreeze.8437

Seabreeze.8437

This gif = 99.99% of the playerbase
The last guy of the gif = 00.01% of the playerbase (a.k.a. Malediktus)

I jest, but seriously, I absolutely can’t wait to get my hands on that tribal armor!

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

How many more threads do people need to make about this? There are plenty already.

Maybe there are a lot of posts to this topic but more or less is just a discussion about if someone is missing this set or not. ;-)

I would like to know something new, or support other players who want the set back into the game.

My ele is very happy about 99.99% of the playerbase not being able to copy his look.

I’m able to…but I don’t think I’d want to, hehe

Tribal armor set

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Posted by: tyler.2569

tyler.2569

Been waiting so long for a response on this.
This is good news! One day my necro will finally get his set.

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Posted by: Serophous.9085

Serophous.9085

The Tribal armor set and other armor sets that were sPvP-exclusive will be obtainable again at some point in the future. There is no ETA as to when this will happen.

[Suggestions] Gemstore Items

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

:O

WANT! I must have that dagger for my Sylvari necro!

[Suggestions] Gemstore Items

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Posted by: TheReaperTheFourthHorsemen.7894

TheReaperTheFourthHorsemen.7894

Caithe’s dagger

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my fate is my own, I will not be Mordremoth’s slave!- Ezonos Nightbriar

Tribal armor set

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Posted by: revodeel.2651

revodeel.2651

The Tribal armor set and other armor sets that were sPvP-exclusive will be obtainable again at some point in the future. There is no ETA as to when this will happen.

You honestly made my evening. /cheer /highfive /brohug /handshake

Do not allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

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Posted by: Paradox.1380

Paradox.1380

Yay! Thanks Joey! Keeping my hope fires burning for that Medium set that Arah Pirate boss wears! I only have a couple pieces xD

-It’s Lady Paradox- Sweet Adrenaline
“What Part Of Living Says You Gotta Die?
I Plan On Burnin Through Another 9 Lives”

customize mail dove

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Posted by: Gnat.9405

Gnat.9405

congrats

customize mail dove

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Posted by: Sampo.9678

Sampo.9678

they actually did it haha

“Be brave, little rabbit. Take a chance.”

customize mail dove

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Posted by: Frostfang.5109

Frostfang.5109

Yup thats awsome… and they used my absolute favourite animal in the game, a griffon! Now I’d like to have one as a pet too…

Kima & Co

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Posted by: Malkavian.4516

Malkavian.4516

A Griffon pet for Rangers? OH HELL YES PLEASE!

FOR SKYRIM!!!!!

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Posted by: Sidious.7459

Sidious.7459

How many more threads do people need to make about this? There are plenty already.

Maybe there are a lot of posts to this topic but more or less is just a discussion about if someone is missing this set or not. ;-)

I would like to know something new, or support other players who want the set back into the game.

My ele is very happy about 99.99% of the playerbase not being able to copy his look.

Good for you But your picture of ele is pretty irrelevant to this topic.

Tribal armor set

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Posted by: Swag.5364

Swag.5364

How many more threads do people need to make about this? There are plenty already.

Maybe there are a lot of posts to this topic but more or less is just a discussion about if someone is missing this set or not. ;-)

I would like to know something new, or support other players who want the set back into the game.

My ele is very happy about 99.99% of the playerbase not being able to copy his look.

Looks like kitten anyway.

Tribal armor set

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Posted by: Sariel V.7024

Sariel V.7024

How many more threads do people need to make about this? There are plenty already.

Maybe there are a lot of posts to this topic but more or less is just a discussion about if someone is missing this set or not. ;-)

I would like to know something new, or support other players who want the set back into the game.

My ele is very happy about 99.99% of the playerbase not being able to copy his look.

I remain quite happy to not be able to replicate your ele’s fashion disaster ;D

Still, to each his own. Bring it back, ANet, so I can cross off a few more squares in my wardrobe.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

My ele is very happy about 99.99% of the playerbase not being able to copy his look.

I hope they add it back purely in spite of people like you who think that excluding players from item acquisition is a good means of player retention.

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