Guild Wars 2

This won’t end well.

Uh, well. I think you have an interesting perspective. It’s amusing to think of all the changes to PvP since launch as ‘deletions’, but I think you’re pretty misleading in a lot of your points.

It was obvious that the paid (tickets purchased), 3 round tournaments were not what the playerbase wanted. It’s more accurate to say they changed the 3 rounders into a 1 round match, and removed the buy-in as well as the gem reward.

As for what’s happening in 2014, it’s pretty clear to see that the ill-thought out PvP progression system that also is apparently not working, is being replaced with something different, which I will pass judgement on when the time comes.

It does suck that there will be an undetermined period in where Glory won’t be attainable, and we won’t be progressing in the NEW PvP system. This is obviously what’s been the cause of “straw that broke the camel’s back” threads like these from the PvP community. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth too, because I don’t know if my character progression is stopped for a week, or 6 months? Nobody knows the feature patch date.

This is entitlement.

There are numerous websites that offer surveys to be completed for points/tokens/etc and those could be made into real money/or something else. Yet those are also given out to certain people and not others.

They are not the first ones to offer some kind of reward for time spent, nor do we know who got chosen and why. It’s non of our business.

This is how surveys work, no matter if they do or do not offer something. And as for an advantage, sorry 400 gems gives you some gold but no real advantage. That’s just a lame excuse to be able to “claim” something you want.

All we come down to again is jealousy. Only reason this got worked up to this is because it was posted here that there even was a survey.

/sarcasm on

Let us continue to make a big flipping deal out of nothing!

Oh no… You have to use the azura gates now (which are completely free…) or -GASP!- use a Way Point for a pittance of silver! The absolute /horror/ of having to actually move your character from one part of the game world to another…
The sky is falling… the end is nigh…

Pardon me while I go use my now completely broken Molten Pick and cry rivers of tears over how it doesn’t work anymore… because Anet rolled out the Watchwork pick… How could you ANET?! HOW COULD YOUUUU?!

/sarcasm off

Now that I have got that out of my system…

Have they included anything with the airship pass that you can not do in the game?
The answer is no.
For gods sake, stop trying to make mountain ranges out of molehills…

All the complaining on this gem store/drops naturally anyway item is over not having a slight convenience. Oh, the horror.

Somehow some of us go on playing, completely unaffected by a service offered in so many other locations the loss of its convenience in LA is nearly unnoticed. Adapt, move on. I save my complaints for issues I consider significant.

The only thing missing from Vigil Keep that was in LA are the crafting stations. But truth be told, LA was not convenient for crafting anyway. I’ve always done my crafting in Rata Sum because the crafting stations are closest to the bank & TP.

There are asura gates to all major cities in VK, just like they were in LA. And if you go thru the LA portals that’re in the major cities, they take you to VK.

Even if LA is gone for good, the Vigil Keep is a hastily thrown together refugee outpost (in game terms, not developer terms). Give Tyrians a few weeks/months to recoil from the sudden attack on LA, fight Scarlet, and begin a new city. Give it time and we might see a new city to replace LA, the expansion of the various Order headquarters, a new push into Southsun that results in the creation of a new grand city. Or maybe Anet is just sick of everyone afk-ing in one place and has plans to make all of Tyria more appealing to visit.

You can’t whine about inconvenience when there’s very little inconvenience and Anet offers you TWO ways around it. Buy the unlimited pass or open event bags and maybe you’ll get some 1-time use passes. I’ve gotten 3 so far and haven’t used one yet because VK isn’t inconvenient. The bank and TP are actually closer in VK than they were in LA. So are the asura gates.

CrockD.8257:

Yes this is another complaint thread on the Captain’s Airship Pass.

For those who didn’t read the other thread: A lot of people got upset that the loss of Lions’s Arch represented the loss of the most useful and convenient hub for BLT, Bank, Crafting Stations, Mystic Forge, Skill Trainers and Vendors. It also had Asura gates to all the major cities. In its place we got two things, Vigil’s Keep (which does not have crafting stations, gate travel and far less vendors) and Havoc’s Heir Airship. The airship is a one stop shop for everything BUT costs 1000 gems for a lifetime pass, 1000 gems equals $12.50 in USD.

The only thing missing in Vigil Keep right now is the crafting.
1000 gems can also be measured in gold, not just USD. If it’s that important to you, you can probably afford it.

Those who (rather sycophantically) defended Arenanet made some of the following arguments:

You can just go to other cities:
Yes, but none of the other cities offer the same level of convenience as Lion’s Arch (in terms of number of services offered and proximity of services to each other, not to mention gate travel) , that’s why LA was consistently the most visited location. If you do a lot of crafting, or are trying to make a legendary or use the BLT a lot you absolutely know what I mean. Time is money and you will be losing a lot of time from this loss of convenience.

No, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Every other city has all the amenities of LA. The only thing they don’t have are the Dungeon vendors and gates to the other cities. Neither of which are actually relevant to most people who are looking for BLT, bank and crafting.

It’s part of the story/times change/you fear something new:
No. I love what they are doing with the story BUT when you take that convenience away and ask for money for its replacement, it is an OBVIOUS bait and switch.

You don’t know what the term Bait and Switch means.

Cashing in is not Arenanet’s intention:
Really? Then why did the 1,000 gem lifetime pass come with this new content as a “promoted item” in the gem store? To think otherwise is naive.

Look, I love this game and there’s much to praise Arenanet for, but i’m not just going to drink the Kool Aid either. Removing LA’s conveniences and charging $12.50 to get it back is wrong. It’s something I expect from Electronic Arts, not from Arenanet who by and large are the good guys.

Then don’t buy it. I got a pass from one of the event bags, if it really matters to you there are ways around it.

Will I stop playing? Of course not! This represents an annoyance and a fairly pricey one at that but overall the game is still fantastic. I just offer this thread as a venue for people to raise their hand politely and say they don’t agree with this move and that they think Arenanet is better than this. Aside from this, the new content is awesome, love that they shook the game up this way, keep up the rest of the good work!

The only thing I will say is that I am rather disappointed that they moved everything except the crafting. There is even a section of Vigil’s Keep on the west side that is already set up at accommodate all the crafting, just like in Hoelbreck. They chose to go a different route, so whatever. I’m more interested in how things will be changed for the future since Vigil’s Keep is a temporary hub, not the final solution.

Survey: A gathering of a sample of data or opinions considered to be representative of a whole…

By this definition it is very clear that not all of us are going to receive a survey (there will probably be more and we might get a turn then).

There is nothing wrong with getting something for your time. But people here seem to just want the gems and are jealous. Stop whining and wait for your turn.

Tristam Green.9178:

Taking a survey about an experience at a Disney World vacation doesn’t usually end up with you getting a free ticket to Disney World, though.

I’ve taken a survey IN Disney World in which I got a free meal. “Paying” people for the completion of a survey (their time) is not unprecedented. In fact, there are entire web sites and companies built around this premise.

Mikuchan.7261:

It’s not “entitlement”. It’s the fact that some people were given an advantage in the game while others had no chance to get it.

What advantage did they get over other players? $5? A Quaggan backpack? 22gold? I’d hardly consider that an advantage over other players.

It’s entitlement, pure and simple.

geeze the entitlement…

Perhaps Anet is looking for a group of people based on specific criteria. For example, if all you use is Tide detergent, why in the world do you think someone would send you a survey asking what you think about Gain detergent?

Here’s another example: if you’ve never been to Disney World, why should you receive a survey (and compensation for taking the survey) about your experience during a Disney World vacation?

And it’s been “this” group in this survey but I’m pretty sure more will follow.

I’m also sure the new survey will then go to other players. It’s not called a survey for nothing!

I also want to say that I am appalled by the people making demands in here, such a selfish “I want, I want, I want!!!!” culture.
I for one didn’t get the survey but I’m happy for the ones that did.

RoyalPredator.9163:

Thats you. I make myself logical rules. Until I don’t get the survey, I WON’T spare any real money for the game. Simple as is…

I think you already didn’t get the survey….

Still, I doubt blackmail will sway their marketing methods much.

PowerCat.5738:

That’s so awful. You give 400 gems to some people, and everyone else is left to rot in the dust?

That’s how marketing works. You take a segment of a population, and base business decisions on the responses in that sample. When done properly, your results are pretty accurate. A business saves money by doing small sample sizes, rather than pay for an entire population. Gifts are not uncommon when it comes to taking a survey. It’s a small incentive to get someone to respond, but not big enough to influence the answers.

If it’s a typical survey, it would have been send to a cross section of the playerbase, not the whole playerbase. similar to the Christmas cards. If you get it, congrats and fill it out. If you did not receive it, don’t whine about it.

D: camps email… I want gems too!

Michael Henninger.7451:

This survey is coming from us. =D

Collect thy gems!

/celebrate

Thanks for the response Michael i’ll keep looking forward to receiving them. Also.. Awesome idea to do this for the players.

I wonder if this is just random selection or if it’s to people who participated in the Mists beta test.

checking email

Michael Henninger.7451:

This survey is coming from us. =D

Collect thy gems!

/celebrate

Is it being sent out in batches? (or is it going to everyone?)

Hey I want gems too, how can I participate? Didn’t get any mail

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