Guild Wars 2

Massive and completely un-counterable damage and yet nothing ever dies.

Great work.

How about we actually ban all elites from ranked? Suddenly pvp is so much more fun!

zapv.8051:

morrolan.9608:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Configs have been updated. There should be less of a spread in ladder positions now.

Part of the reason this is happening is because this season matches on both MMR and ladder position. Someone could have a lower ladder position, but have a very high MMR. Since they have to sit around a long time waiting for close MMR players, their ladder search range is also increasing at the same time.

1. You need to test things better
2. The pip system needs to be adjusted so players don’t lose a pip when facing a premade of 4-5 players.

Also what about losing pips when a team member dcs has this been fixed? Considering you’re making other changes I would hope that was a priority.

1) LOL, welcome to real software development. You probably never compliment how well everything else in this game works or acknowledge how much it is tested. When everything works, no one even notices. As soon as something breaks or doesn’t work as well as expected people rage real hard.

2) NO!!!, the fair matches can very easily happen between a premade and 5 randos. Often the people complaining the most about premades are the same people that give up as soon as they see they are fighting a premade.

Last point is valid.

We pay them money we expect things to work and when they do we do why would we go out of the way to praise them? Conversely when things don’t work we complain. Becuase that’s what sensible people do when they pay for something and it doesn’t work. I don’t work in the software industry I don’t care what challenges they face. I wan’t what I paid for. I am a paying customer.

Mysticjedi.6053:

This season, in my mind, is done. I say experiment now so season 2 can be great.

Lol… do you remember the first test season in December 2014?

The Second test season of spring 2015?

This is their Third try.

And it suck.

People ask for a public test server to have real BETA process before going gold.

Not sure that the Fourth try will get better.

Anet don’t have proper balanced matrix for their classes and stats. They don’t have proper balanced matrix for their match making. They really need to get a real Mathematician and stop trying to improvise gaming system.

Math is GOD in game system. Good Math is golden, bad math bring you down.

4-5 times to fix it and still not capable to do it.

msalakka.4653:

639 days and Duelist’s Discipline is still broken.

No, they fixed it. They nerfed it before they fixed it, but they fixed it :P

Considering that the beta for the new maps was basically just a publicity stunt, and they ignored all of the feedback from the beta testers, this doesn’t bode well for the future of WvW.

Map timers is not “casual unfriendly” it is consumer unfriendly.

Joey.2769:

All the WvW community should join a BnS server and just open world fight there.

I would be in on this, post on reddit so anet cant remove the thread and infract you. Start a recruiting thread and I would sign up

Allow me to quote:

colin:

We may not be ready to reveal more in early 2016, but you’ll have an opportunity to get all the details and give feedback when we go into the beta phase of this massive project later this year.

colin:

Other Big Events for Early 2016
… what else can you expect to see over the course of the next few months? Let’s take a look at other releases and events already planned out and firmly scheduled between now and the end of March in 2016.

So summing up what they’re saying is early 2016 is until april of this year, and we will not see anything before that time. Assuming they do reveal some details in the course of April, that still means that they need to go through beta events before finally releasing their “Major overhaul” somewhere in summer.

The number 6 seems like the right answer at this moment if you want to know how many months not to play this game.

So much for WvW being the major focus after HOT.

We told you the new bl was bad, you pushed it anyway.

We had concerns about auto upgrades, you pushed it anyway.

We told you we wanted less pve in wvw, you gave us more.

We told you we wanted more incentive to defend, you gave us ridiculously expensive guild upgrades and tactics. That require us to grind pve…

Please anet explain to me why you think I should wait 6+ months for this big update when you wont even talk to us about it. WvW is kittening garbage right now I can’t even bring myself to log on. The combat system and my server community, were the last two things keeping me playing. The current meta with banners is trash. I wanted to test my guilds skills against other guilds not see who grinds carebear land harder. Hopefully I’ll see some of you in Crowfall or CU because its become apparent the WvW most of us were looking for wont be happening.

As a primarily wvw player since launch, and a carry-over player from GW1 the announcement today is disappointing as it seems the decimation of the wvw population will continue unabated. With the vaguely announced timeline, I am not optimistic there will be much of a population left for the population balance fixes later this year. I have slowly moved my two accounts up through the tiers, donating more gems to Anets efforts, in order to attempt to find consistency, or pseudo balance, but it is not uncommon for myself to log in during NA prime and find no commanders tagged in either Tier 1 or 2, when over year ago I could find multiple commanders at any time in Tier 3 – 6.

The launch of HoT, for which I bought two copies, was also a disappointment – not in as much the number of features it offered, but rather the lack of insight demonstrated by the company into the combat aspects of the game, when the combat is the truly defining feature of this potentially great product. The terrain and introduction of non-player elements ran counter to 3 years of feedback and the arguable failure of EotM to attract genuine interest. The borderland waypoint changes demonstrated to myself a clear lack of practical understanding of the current state of population and organizational attrition in the game; attempting to force more play across maps on the assumption that there are actually enough commanders or guilds left to support multi-map coordination. Nothing needs to be said about the class imbalance introduced as well, which created a virtual pay-to-win structure in the game, driving both wvw and pvp further into boring metas.

So, as much as I can understand trying to consolidate changes, whether to raise efficiency or minimize roll-backs, I have a difficult time seeing the purpose in Anet investing another year into a cure for a patient that will be dead by then. The attrition increases at a rate such that by the time your solutions are released, they are no longer appropriate for the situation. For example, the DB map might have been a successful addition, despite the reservations of myself and others, 2 years ago when the game had the population to support the dynamics.

Your metrics are polluted with assumptions, and your game mode is on life support. If you make no plans for further intermediate assistance into QoL changes for the wvw community between now and the overhaul, including the population distribution, save your time and money and shut the mode down. Your time would be better spent with your other game modes, as you have clearly spread yourself too thin, and adopted an insular approach to your customers which serves to assist nothing other than fragile management egos.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

WvW just ___________________flatlined

Thank you, Colin. Finally you post that your team is not able to understand WvW players and make WvW a game mode your players want to play. So we can move now. Good luck with ruining it futher until it finally dies.

Algerius.5238:

It’s just disgusting.
By the time they finish the overhaul there will be no players left, they will jump to another game. After 2 years i don’t see myself playing the this kind of WvW for 3 months more. Something will appear.

Yeah. Even if the overhaul is GREAT (and i doubt that), later 2016 will be to late. If they rly had something great for us they would present it at least to some whiteknight streamers. I rly doubt that they have more than the changes from the holliday preview.
I expect “later 2016” will turn out as end of 2016
I’m so tired of chasing the carrot.
I log in to Gw2, do my dailys and every day passing by i become more and more reluctand to do evenb this little thing.

Rainbowsand.2438:

Why Chronobunker is cancer? Facetank, rewind, facetank, rip. Same as Necros second bar; doesnt saves from an angry mob.

When i play with torment and confusion pvp, they call me cancer, they say that i am a noob, it is a free win, bla bla bla. Now i see like them play with Chronobunker and they say nothing, of course, it is a more subtle way of gaining why ?, because if you do not get to kill me, they say “is that then you are a noob”, what is the difference? the way to play with damage conditions bother them, and Chronobunker assures the victory, and tests your direct DPS.

I only ask that give more love for mesmer scepter (mostly trait With confusion and torment), and other ways to play than ever “distortion” spam. Chronobunker yes, but not spam “distortion” with Well of Precognition, it is very cancer.

Curunen.8729:

Can’t they put Confusion on crit back in so condi can actually have a choice of weapons to use instead of being forced to use scepter?

Nope, but we can buff scepter in a meaningless way some more!

Azukas.1426:

Seriously everyone needs to stop thier kittening. Since June 23rd every big patch has made us top dog in this game.

Haha what?

Azukas.1426:

Think about the actual classes that are hurting (warrior/thief).

You mean the ones that are described as getting multiple substantial buffs in the preview?

I’m thinking your version of reality needs a second opinion.

Since GW1 the whole Mesmer concept has been THE profession I’ve enjoyed. Basically, if I can’t play Mesmer, I don’t play.

But it truly is depressing about the seemingly “double standard” that happens with it.

- Adding a 1 second delay to “Into the Void”, but yet DH get high damaging instant cast traps AND grant them stabilty AND lets give them an “unblockable” pull to utilize said traps.

- Add a delay & bug fix to Sword #3 clone into Illusionary Leap. Meanwhile lets give Thieves and Revenant and instant “shadowstep” that can pass thru walls and stone, ignoring immobolize effects AND doing damage in the process

- And still to this day.. Consume Plasma is still a thing. How about letting Thieves steal Consume Plasma from Elementalist? You know the profession that ACTUALLY has accesss to all those boons. Maybe then Ele’s wouldn’t rule the roost so much.

Sorry, my frustration with this game is getting too much. Not sure how much longer I’ll be around. Tired of all the disappointment.

Fellfoot.8156:

I’m still trying to figure who they were trying to impress with all this kitten. …and just, …why?

This is what you get when you let a pve dev team create new stuff for pvp modes. It’s like asking your local baker to fix your car.

Another thing that should be mentioned is that when if you buy HoT, you’re voting with your wallet. They absolutely suck when it comes to interpreting metrics. So if they see people are buying HoT, they’ll assume it’s good and come out with more of the same. If their sales numbers are drastically low, they should be able to figure out that means that people aren’t happy with their product. Well… hopefully. Knowing Anet, they could very well just assume it means people want more LS stuff, especially in WvW, because “If you’re into WvW, you’re really into PvE” rather than the reality of “If you’re into WvW, you’re forced to grind in PvE or be dead broke.”

As it stands, I can’t honestly recommend coming back to WvW, or GW2 in general. And I certainly don’t recommend giving Anet any money. They’ve said they plan on releasing some sort of big WvW update “soon”. But….. we’ve heard that for years. They really need to pick a new lie, because that one’s lost even the novelty value it had. If they do end up releasing some sort of big update, expect it to steer directly into the HOT trainwreck and finish WvW off for good. It’s just downright pathetic at this point.

As Lord Kuru said, Don’t waste your money.

If it’s WvW you’re interested in, do not buy HoT. The game mode is in its death throes and Anet has given no tangible indication that they are going to act.

And even if they do act, do you really think they can bring it back from death? The same people who put it in the state it’s in now? Not a chance.

Don’t waste your money.

• 1. You are correct in that WvW is a totally different creature for the following reasons in regards to your statement “been away from the game a long time”:

- Stability nerf
- Buffs/power creep to all classes
- Condition re-work/tweaks
- Profession overhaul/‘balance’ changes resulting in pirate ship meta
- Post-HoT aka Desert(ed) Borderlands map including the plethora of cheese PvE minded mechanics
- The re-packaging & re-selling of existing guild upgrades (primarily +5 supply function) locking it behind the new Guild Halls which require an ungodly amount of gold & grind to re-acquire

…All of which inevitably chiseled away at skillful, fun, smart play in WvW be it roaming, zerging etc.

• 2. If you are torn on whether or not to buy HoT I suggest doing some research but from a personal perspective HoT grants access to elite specs, of which Guardian for example… is now Dragonhunter and their F1-F3 abilities are vastly superior to their core versions. The F3 shield as a further example – instead of a mere Aegis I can now block all incoming attacks in a cone shape in front of me for X seconds.

To me, a lot of the elite specs in HoT are much more advantageous to use in a WvW setting than their core versions.

• 3. We have been fed the same old, recycled fake promises regarding “improving WvW” by devs for ages but I am sure the WvW community are still hoping for better days when things will be lively again. HoT was definitely the final nail in the coffin for many avid WvWers/commanders/guild leaders alike so it’s going to take ANet devs an immense innovative miracle to mend all the hurt they’ve implemented into the game.

• 4. Yes and no, as mentioned previously there are the elite specs a WvWer might find more valuable picking up to compete with the current meta/play-style going on.

ANet has not detailed anything specific regarding HoT required for WvW other than access to Guild Halls for all the things you can use in WvW, though someone else in the guild could just as easily supply those things.

Something of value for WvWers who buy HoT in the possible future could be a WvW mastery track; I think ANet did mention auto-loot not working in WvW is intended? Either way, it doesn’t work. And it’s much needed. So they should implement a WvW mastery track.

I honestly wouldn’t get any hopes up. It’s ANet. We all know WvW is the red-headed stepchild of the game modes. There’s your honest answers as best as I could.

The only reason to buy HoT for WvW is access to an Elite spec and some things in the Guild Hall.

Edit: Also access to the Elite Revenants #2 Hammer spam.

Wait for the revamp. Which will happen sometime in the next thousand years. I know, too trusting of me.

HoT destroyed WvW and it is very doubtful that the devs will be able to fix it. Fixing requires some sort of competence in the game mode you are working on. But all the anet devs care about is PvE grinding and crappy Esports. WvW is beyong their abilities, as the current situation has proven so clearly.

i was thinking banners, air strikes over capture points like wvw has, and mindless collecting events in the middle of the map. We all know anet wants more pve in wvw, so why not have more pve in pvp?