Guild Wars 2

Pandgami.6745:

I get it Guild Halls are ridiculously expensive and almost impossible for small guilds to obtain and upgrade.

That was the point from the very start. People knew it was gonna be expensive so why all the complaining?

Guild halls are suppose to be meant mainly for large guilds. Why? Incentive.
Let’s be honest in a large guild, if a person gets kicked not many people are gonna care. If its a higher up or an officer there may be some drama but people get over it. If its someone of the lower ranks the people kicking and many of the other members wouldn’t really care. This is the downside of a large guild who don’t have the emotional/personal incentive of a small guild.

Smaller guilds are a tightly knit unit that have grown strong bonds as they have grown attached to the other members as there only a few so its easy to know everyone and be friends with them. And you could have a fully upgraded guild too if you pulled enough money which was not hard to earn pre-HoT. So why join a large guild when you can be a small guild with your close friends? Benefits from the large guilds.

Large Guilds have numbers and vast amount of resources to back up their large numbers/presence. With the old guild system the incentive of repping and earning influence for large guilds meant 24 hour buffs like exp, karma, harvesting, wvw upgrades, etc. But even small guilds could accomplish this feat pretty easily if they earned enough and farmed things and did events together which they most likely did as they would do everything together.

With the new guild system the only way to keep members from constantly leaving (or at least to constantly recruit to fill those that left) is the guild hall and its various upgrades. So of course large guild will get those upgrades and flesh out their guild hall easier and faster than the small guilds.

If you really want a fully upgraded guild hall and those buffs and stuff, merge into a big guild. If you don’t like them or how they conduct things, leave. Otherwise don’t complain about a system that was clearly intended from the very beginning to benefit to large guilds hold their communities together. Guild Halls are suppose to represent the effort of hundreds of players and their dedication to the guild as a whole.

tl;dr GH meant for large guilds not for small guilds

If people go by your post alone it’s almost like the forum is not a place to give and discuss feedback.

tl:dr version; stop telling people what to do, you’re not a mod

Doctor.5068:

Raedwulf.3712:

how about you stop posting pointless threads that will achieve absolutely nothing useful.

The hypocrisy, it is real. The small guilds crying on the forums are the vocal minority. Just like everything else you see on the forums. People that are happy with how things are running are not going to say so on the forums. That is why every post on the forum is someone crying about something. I agree with OP about GH. People that CHOOSE not to be in a large guild need to accept that they won’t have the same access as those who do.

You are aware of that there are guilds in this game aiming only for example towards wvw or pvp? Were a guild halls is necesary to be able to arrange GvG’s or duels and other things only aiming towards wvw? Those guilds do not have 300 members since that would kind of loose their focus and no posibility to build a strong hard core group to compete with. This groups will struggle, because what 300 people can gather in weeks, the small wvw focused guild will take months, and in the end even years to reach the goal if you look further ahead on what upgrades really cost.

You feel they have no need or should not have the right to have a guild hall? Even though the arena is designed for this purpose towards smaller fights agains other guilds. There is also upgrades like emergency waypoints to save keeps and towers, and buffs to put on camps/keeps/towers. You feel this buffs and waypoints should not be reachable by the guilds that are in wvw every day for many many hours and are keeping your server in a good spot? Only the huge social guilds with 300 people who you rarely see in wvw anyway should be able to make this? How is this helping the server? The small wvw guilds?

Congratulations!
I really wish all the best to you and your bride to be.

WhiteFox.9432:

Congratz!
Tell me you are going to do the wedding over in LA to? With the wedding costume?

Also, this proves, that while being a game, MMO’s are also a social platform. But instead of just chatting or posting stuff on a social network site, we have virtual avatars that give it just that tiny edge more while keeping contact.

Thanks

We both have our “Wedding outfits” ready and waiting for the day… -> An asura and a Sylvari… who’d have known -> will probably need to log in before though to get ready because it’s going to be a VERY busy day :P

Guild Wars 2: Come For The Adventure, Stay For The Romance™

May utmost blessings and bliss be yours.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Thank you for sharing your stories, CathShadow and Ashen!

<3 to you all.

Thank you Gaile

I am the bride to be (hehe) and just want to thank everyone for their kind words and wishes.

Zedek.8932:

This defeats the “People who play online games never will get married” nonsense!
Too bad interesting players I meet are guys…

LOL… yeah, I suppose it does..

If it helps.. I never once, in my life, thought video games would get me the woman of my dreams.

This defeats the “People who play online games never will get married” nonsense!
Too bad interesting players I meet are guys…

I’m trying to make sense of the OP. Failing desperately.

Guild Halls are for big guilds? Says who. You, the Prophet of Jesus?

Give me a break. Guild Halls are a feature for guilds to have a “home” and have some neat little “homey” perks that they can use. I don’t understand why size should have anything to do with it. If your guild is past Anet’s (silly) designated size of what they consider a “group” or “party,” then the Guild Hall world should be your oyster, not your living hell.

Not every feature in a game has to be a massive timesink and resource sink! Some developers get this. Others, apparently, do not. And players, especially… a lot of them… do not get it at all. Whatsoever. This is how the mind of many players works, “If it works for me, then it’s fine as is and should never, ever change. If it doesn’t work for me, then it should change NOW. NOW NOW NOW.”

The evidence of this is in just about every forum thread ever made on a game forum and the selfishness is staggering. For every moment there’s a guy saying “It’s fine as is because it works for me,” that same guy is later saying on another issue “it’s not fine for me, so it MUST change.”

These forums would be a lot more productive in their discussions if even half the people acknowledged their selfish wants and lobbied for compromise.

I looked at the Dev Tracker, and from what I gather the “Map Completion” bug that they fixed was something completely different – it was about this instead: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/HoT-maps-reset-on-me/first

I can understand there being bugs with the game – with an expansion to an MMO it’s all but guaranteed – but total lack of a response for this issue? Especially as it seems isolated to those who have 100% completion, and have supported GW2 for a while? How is that any way to treat customers? It’s like the pre-order situation all over again.

I’ve had this map completion issue for over a week. I understand a fix will take time. But really, they should at least acknowledge the players who have the issue, instead of ignoring us, because it feels like Anet just wants the issue to quietly disappear.

Please stop complaining about something that doesn’t hurt your gameplay. This hurts ours. I now have almost zero likelyhood that my friends will join me in this game now because of the guild changes. That’s 3 sales ArenaNet won’t be making until they fix this.

Enjoy your guild hall and stop telling other people they can’t have one.

Pandgami.6745:

I get it Guild Halls are ridiculously expensive and almost impossible for small guilds to obtain and upgrade.

That was the point from the very start. People knew it was gonna be expensive so why all the complaining?

Guild halls are suppose to be meant mainly for large guilds. Why? Incentive.
Let’s be honest in a large guild, if a person gets kicked not many people are gonna care. If its a higher up or an officer there may be some drama but people get over it. If its someone of the lower ranks the people kicking and many of the other members wouldn’t really care. This is the downside of a large guild who don’t have the emotional/personal incentive of a small guild.

Smaller guilds are a tightly knit unit that have grown strong bonds as they have grown attached to the other members as there only a few so its easy to know everyone and be friends with them. And you could have a fully upgraded guild too if you pulled enough money which was not hard to earn pre-HoT. So why join a large guild when you can be a small guild with your close friends? Benefits from the large guilds.

Large Guilds have numbers and vast amount of resources to back up their large numbers/presence. With the old guild system the incentive of repping and earning influence for large guilds meant 24 hour buffs like exp, karma, harvesting, wvw upgrades, etc. But even small guilds could accomplish this feat pretty easily if they earned enough and farmed things and did events together which they most likely did as they would do everything together.

With the new guild system the only way to keep members from constantly leaving (or at least to constantly recruit to fill those that left) is the guild hall and its various upgrades. So of course large guild will get those upgrades and flesh out their guild hall easier and faster than the small guilds.

If you really want a fully upgraded guild hall and those buffs and stuff, merge into a big guild. If you don’t like them or how they conduct things, leave. Otherwise don’t complain about a system that was clearly intended from the very beginning to benefit to large guilds hold their communities together. Guild Halls are suppose to represent the effort of hundreds of players and their dedication to the guild as a whole.

tl;dr GH meant for large guilds not for small guilds

So why this new thread? You could have stated your opinion in one of the existing ones. And why bother at all? It does not hurt you, does it?

Pandgami.6745:

I get it Guild Halls are ridiculously expensive and almost impossible for small guilds to obtain and upgrade.

That was the point from the very start. People knew it was gonna be expensive so why all the complaining?

Guild halls are suppose to be meant mainly for large guilds. Why? Incentive.
Let’s be honest in a large guild, if a person gets kicked not many people are gonna care. If its a higher up or an officer there may be some drama but people get over it. If its someone of the lower ranks the people kicking and many of the other members wouldn’t really care. This is the downside of a large guild who don’t have the emotional/personal incentive of a small guild.

Smaller guilds are a tightly knit unit that have grown strong bonds as they have grown attached to the other members as there only a few so its easy to know everyone and be friends with them. And you could have a fully upgraded guild too if you pulled enough money which was not hard to earn pre-HoT. So why join a large guild when you can be a small guild with your close friends? Benefits from the large guilds.

Large Guilds have numbers and vast amount of resources to back up their large numbers/presence. With the old guild system the incentive of repping and earning influence for large guilds meant 24 hour buffs like exp, karma, harvesting, wvw upgrades, etc. But even small guilds could accomplish this feat pretty easily if they earned enough and farmed things and did events together which they most likely did as they would do everything together.

With the new guild system the only way to keep members from constantly leaving (or at least to constantly recruit to fill those that left) is the guild hall and its various upgrades. So of course large guild will get those upgrades and flesh out their guild hall easier and faster than the small guilds.

If you really want a fully upgraded guild hall and those buffs and stuff, merge into a big guild. If you don’t like them or how they conduct things, leave. Otherwise don’t complain about a system that was clearly intended from the very beginning to benefit to large guilds hold their communities together. Guild Halls are suppose to represent the effort of hundreds of players and their dedication to the guild as a whole.

tl;dr GH meant for large guilds not for small guilds

clueless… thoughtless… meaningless tosh!
All I got to say about this post. nothing to see here, move along!

If you’re not in a small guild yourself, kindly be quiet.

Doug Whisper.2465:

I remember reading this: guild hall is balanced around 10 players and would take around nine months to fully upgrade based on the highest rate of mine output. Colin also mentioned in an interview small guild could use Guild Initative Hall for gathering.

This and as I have said in a few other topics like this, if I rember right I think he also said that Aetherium was going to be the thing that kept smaller guilds to keep up with bigger guilds. Well this isn’t true, we have had 1500 Aetherium for over four days without being able to build or upgrade anything and we are a medium guild with a few donating guild members, I can immagine how long a small guild will sit on max capasity waiting to be able to upgrade.

Grim West.3194:

The devs have every right to create a horrible game system that punishes players who want to have fun. HoT is all that.

And we have every right to tell them to ….. it.

Have been playing SWTOR’s new expansion, it’s fun. HoT isn’t.

Sorry for being offtopic now…

Good for you. Now I wonder even why you are here? I hate Swtor and I looked at my brother playing the expac and I cant say I liked it more. I am not sitting in Swtors forum spewing offtopic nonsence that that game is bad and I am now playing GW2 and it is so much better. I don’t get it…

A customer complaining about other customers complaining about a product?

Classy.

Take your charge of hypocrisy & shove it where the sun doesn’t shine, Doctor. Anyone & everyone on the forums is a vocal minority. I don’t have an opinion on the subject (despite being a small guild in either of my guilds). I do strenuously object to people like YOU and the OP setting up strawman arguments, though.

YOU (as well as the OP) need to accept that everyone has a right to voice their opinions on these forums. Including those who have a different opinion from you. “Vocal minority” is a BS statement that YOU have absolutely no statistics to validate.

I really don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand why people want their personal bank guilds or small guilds.

I don’t speak for everyone, but kitten , I did like to have access to banners and guild siege from my personal guild, something I don’t have in the freaking bigger WvW guilds I’m in.

Stop trying to shove “get in a big guild, that’s what the game was meant for” down our throats. We get it. But… understand that is what we had been given for the past 3 years, and we had access to things we had unlocked (as I said, guild siege and banners, etc.)

Now we don’t.

I remember reading this: guild hall is balanced around 10 players and would take around nine months to fully upgrade based on the highest rate of mine output. Colin also mentioned in an interview small guild could use Guild Initative Hall for gathering.

Who says Guild Halls are meant to be only for large guilds? Anet? I haven’t seen it. Tell you what, how about you stop complaining about people complaining; how about you stop posting pointless threads that will achieve absolutely nothing useful.

Yes. Let’s have every single char in game a member of a huge, anonymous guild where few care if you are there or not or if you get kicked, just so that guild halls can be built.

Yes, leave a large portion of your players locked out of a very casual and harmless feature for everyone to have. Makes sense. On that note, make Guild halls Raid worthy and only let the top elite of elite have them.

I don’t want a fully upgraded guild hall, but as a small wvw guild i want a arena in our guildhall so that we can use it for the purpose it is there. I certainly don’t want to merge in to a big guild, that is ridiculous, i am in a guild with a certain aim, and joining a blobby guild with milions of people having to share the arena with them, well sorry that is not working for us, we want to have the arena to be able to invite other guilds to fight with us when ever we want and the enemies are avaiable, not when the arena might be free and not full of 300 members that create lag.

At this point this will take ages for us to get a fully upgraded arena, and we are punished because we are small with a aim, a aim that the guild halls are meant to be used for.

As is obvious from my posts, I’m really disappointed with ArenaNet and with the way they have been handling GW2.

But, the only aspect of the company I have no complaints about is Gaile. She has my utmost respect, and I know that whenever she doesn’t answer a pressing concern, it’s because she has not been given the permission by the higher ups, not because she wants to leave the players’ questions unanswered.

Congratulations for your anniversary at ArenaNet, Gaile! I hope happiness will smile to you in the following years.

You guys!! This is so sweet. Happy Anniversary, Gaile!!

Cheers Gaile for all you have achieved and for the support you have given to us all –
Thank you – Wish you the best and may your hearts desires be your future – Cheers!

Happy Anniversary!!

This should be a huge in game event !