Guild Wars 2

Nah well just grab someone else~

Jscull.2514:

Oozo, Accel, Talentless, Niim, Boulderbolg,

Would you guys be open to setting up a voice chat meet to discuss a possible tier setup? We need to get reps from all guilds interested.

Absolutely

Are there enough people to fight beside each other in tier 8?

Thing is no one likes taking keeps. Wed have to recruit a tower terror team to do the dirty work.

We would be glad to help fund transfers

Hello sirs. We’ve been talking on and about this with paxa and I’d like to throw out tier 6 as an option.

Right now on DR there is us, AD, BSty, NoQQ who all run small groups. If we could get a few groups on each other server in the matchup it would be some good competition.

My only concern is that I don’t know how stable the tier is. Its been the same for nearly 2 months but a shakeu kitten upposed to happen soon.

I never understood caring about score

Yes thanks for coming out a few times.

A friendly note to everyone: drop the thieves. I know its a pub stomp class and that’s fun but you are seriously gimping you groups by having so many.

hyjaxxx.1584:

I keep hearing About darkhaven only running in zergs. I can tell you this is 100% false. While the zergs are running a muck rattling their sabers. Grim and a couple other smaller wvw guilds are running around taking camps and towers aswell as fighting the other small enemy forces that we come across. Very similar to what i see people from DR and Isle doing. Any server that only rolled in zergs would be demolished because the enemy could…just go behind them and take everything back.

In regards to Tullum and talking about what people should be doing in a group. I agree with you 100% which is why when im in a larger group im constantly in water trying to do as much healing and cond removal as possible. ive noticed others that see me do this also switch over and try to help out on the support end….lets see if it truly catches on!

Jaxx.

I will give that to you. I see groups of <10 grim quite often, keep it up. Only other group I see is PD’s A-team who also happens to be the only group to even remotely put up a challenge 5v5.

MrFluffy.9307:

and for a side note: DH is actually a good server, they know how to use their numbers and disperse them into remote groups to hit multiple fronts all at once. As far as tactics go they are just plain better then the ones in DR

Does this include the repeated sending of 20 people into se supply, and to their death, while the entirety of the south borderland is blue? Cause I see that a lot.

I dont go to DR/EB because I dont like walking further than portal→island to find fights

Has dh taken to running up level karma trains midweek now?

I run sword/torch greatsword as a shatter spec. Ive tried dropping the torch for pistol/focus and going to staff but target drops (stealth) are the most important thing you have when fighting outnumbered.

video in sig

Wow what a kittenin train wreck

I wouldent call that minor

Gab Superstar.4059:

Well they can put a lot of pressure. I would say they are excellent when fighting with and against groups of ~10-20. In zergs I honestly don’t know (does it even matter), and in anything smaller than that I don’t think you can match the massive utility some of the other professions have.

I think well bombing with groups of 20ish is a thing in higher tiers.

I want to like necros, I have a necro, and I dont play it.

fighting outnumbered puts the spotlight on the severe lack of mobility and all the good skills being utilities which leaves little room for stun breaks.

Most zerg necros run no stun breaks, try that 5v20

I dont even know about a server com but if you tell us where the people you want dead are we can work something out

whoops, sorry:( some of the guys are pretty forthright about it but I think Im nice enough in game at least. Ask us and its fine to run with us! Well just put you in group and in vent to make things easier.

We just dont want to grab a lot of people and end up outnumbering whoever were fighting, no fun in that.

Follow all you want just dont be surprised when you get dropped off at the nearest enemy zerg.

Chasan.3521:

Serious question, why not just do tpvp?

Tpvp is more about avoiding fights than wvw is. You stand in circles all day hoping no one comes by. If a fight with even sides breaks out someone kittened up and shouldent have engaged. All we want to do is kill each other, and as zergy as it is wvw supports that over tpvp.

Ive been on both ends. We moved from tier 3 to whats now tier 7 to get away from the zergs.

Id say the average skill level is similar, theres just fewer overall good players that tend to roam in lower tiers. The one thing I dont miss are the 25 man lawnmower zergs (Im sorry guys, I ment army!) that puff their chests out about rolling pug zergs and fall over dead when you catch them in even numbers.

The sweet spot for me at least is tier 4,5,6. Good roaming communities and the zergs are manageable.

People just want to test their skills against other people. Its why dueling servers are so prevalent, its why hot join is the way it is. Both game types (spvp and wvw) discourage even fights. Can we just have one thing that let’s us kill each other without additional bs.

This thread pretty much defines what’s wrong with this game. Why have an even, fun fight when you can zerg people right?

People that follow us without being in ventrilo, especially up levels, are little more than rally bait. I’ve been burned too many times. So if you want to hug someone’s nuts its polite to ask first.

Ah now this is the drama I miss.

Oozo.7856:

Gazden.5479:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Hah I love Gaz just sitting there with his arms crossed

Yeah, first fight with Xsorus I was winning pretty easily (I made a few mistakes in the fight in the movie which allowed him to get away so he could kite and heal) but Gaz backstabbed him when he was low health so I had to ditch that clip.

After that we were letting him 1v1. Gaz beat him at least once.

Sorry about that, sometimes I’m a real scumbag!

Ah, NP. :P

It’s hard to know whether to help or not sometimes. I’ve not engaged because someone was 1v1ing but then spent the next few minutes getting rage tells for not helping after they lost.

You should ask sepsis about that. I thought he was actually going to report the guy. He followed us around for hours spamming map chat with all sorts of profanity.

I don’t know what to do when we run into snfu people. Half the time no one adds half the time it all adds.

Sometimes we get aj’d and say, OK no special treatment. Then we add on someone who probably had nothing to do with it and so the cycle continues. Its how like half the drama in daoc started so let’s keep with tradition I suppose.

Hah I love Gaz just sitting there with his arms crossed

ebay was always fun to fight. good roaming population.

Then maguuma 2.0 came along and started zerging everything

ioj: dont stand in clumps like that when there are mesmers around.

jesus dh. Right now on ioj is what we mean by having more people.

We have no trinity but still have bucket-o-hp mobs designed for a trinity system. Re-tooling AI would go a long way.

Iruwen.3164:

Pinko.2076:

If mesmers gear specifically for con. damage, you can get around 2300.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/62321/gw001.jpg
That’s with full exotic rabid gear (condition damage major, minor toughness) with runes of the undead (condition damage), 30 in illusions (300 condition damage), exquisite chrysocola jewels (condition damage major) and chaotic transference trait (5% of toughness added to condition damage, not in illusions but in chaos tree btw). Weapons: +condition damage major.
Will be slightly more with ascended gear.

With tuning crystal und veggie pizza, it’s ~1600 condition damage. Didn’t pick the most expensive versions but the second highest one, the difference is negligible though.

With 25 stacks from sigil of corruption, it’s 1850 condition damage.

From there, at least another dozen of might stacks is required to get to 2300 condition damage.

Is some of the condition damage not displayed correctly in the stats window or what exactly will I have to do to reach 2300 condition damage just by gearing “specifically”?

We run an hgh/prybar engi and this is pretty typical. They are going to achieve much higher condition dmage than a mesmer ever will.

Careful Tuluum, I dont want to have to get the mods involved

Its a truly great combat system wrapped around some terrible mechanics and there aint nothing better atm.

Dude Im vegan show some respect

Like Forty Seven Ninjas.6982:

hyjaxxx.1584:

to the person who asked why we always seem to attack Devona before isle. I would say that for the most part..dark haven feels Devona to be the better skilled of the two servers. and while you are usually 80-110k back in points " yeah yeah you dont care about points" we know that taking positions from you will put us in an even better position and open the 1st to 2nd lead, and have some fun to boot!

just my thoughts….dont put a video up , i promise ill behave!

Jaxx.

I know I personally (not necessarily representative of [PD]) am in DR bl because of so much trash talk on the forums . Its annoying and IoJ is up to super secret stuff so I figure why not take some more DR stuff.

I don’t think DR is better necessarily, they are in second due to better coverage (did I get that right?). [HARD] from IoJ is up to snuff in many regards as much as that adqqsty group of hoodlums. I will hand it to [OINK] though, you guys work very well as a small group. Idk anyone else who does as well as you guys in something like that.

The picture attached is the result when we tried to get a sneak peak at IoJ’s super secret plans.

Thanks man, we had some really nice fights with PD last night.

Tell me more about how awesome zerging is.

1. Dont you know wvw is casual
2. go play spvp
3. those arnt zergs those are armies!

Did I cover it all?

Berzerker/Knight mesmer with 300 condi due to spec and condition damage stacks.

1744 a tick followed with some glass cannon dps.

Its not just pure condition mesmers that use confusion to their advantage.

Attic your post is off topic and may lead to thread derailment. God help us.

Its always my tamer posts that earn infraction points

If I were on an arrow cart I would be drunk and lost because siege is boring

Indeed I do

anet prefers 15 chars

All I’m saying is that based on my experience with wvw fights a 5v5 death match would be interesting and fun. Nothing more.

I’m very aware its not “part of the game”. People do it for fun just like dueling hot join servers. It would be nice if anet supported it.

Lexiculus.5296:

Acelerion.6820:

Of course it doessent effect the outcome. There are tons of people in wvw that play for the fights spvp can’t offer. Death match or similar would work fine.

I am glad that WvW is in the game. I just don’t think your argument holds weight here when you suggest that ‘SPvP doesn’t have DM so I’ll go to WvW for DM.’

WvW is an objective-based game mode on a large scale. It is not team DM. It allows for imbalances such as the size of your group and the stats on your gear—not necessarily on build or skill.

You could argue that the option is there for a group to focus on downing players but the idea is that it will all lead toward completing the objective. Much like sPvP.

Wvw is a big open place where you can run around and kill people. A lot of competitive players prefer that to standing in circles and so there are quite a few groups who do nothing but roam around looking for fights.

These groups fight each other as 5v5, 3v3 or whatever. Its a death match with no one keeping score. It is directly relatable to how death match would work in a structured setting.

Saying its going to be nothing but aoe, saying its going to be nothing but thieves, is pure conjecture on peoples parts. I fight groups of thieves all the time and its a joke compared to a balanced group.

silvermember.8941:

Acelerion.6820:

Finally something my wvw experience gives me a leg up on. You can absolutely have up to 5v5 fights that are interesting, dynamic, and take a while without healers. And no its not just a burst fest either.

3v3 really feels like the sweet spot for the combat system though.

I have exhaustive experience running essentially 5vN death match and would be happy to discuss likely strategy or anything else. Especially with devs:)

Actually your WvW experience is irrelevant. Your 3v3 or 5v5 doesn’t really affect the outcome of the match. They are still people out they killing, capping and defending the points. So in the grand scheme of things, you are not really doing anything because other people are.

TDM doesn’t work in MMORPG.

Of course it doessent effect the outcome. There are tons of people in wvw that play for the fights spvp can’t offer. Death match or similar would work fine.

Our fights never start with a staring contest unless were trying to bait a zerg. Mass invis is the best initiator.

Finally something my wvw experience gives me a leg up on. You can absolutely have up to 5v5 fights that are interesting, dynamic, and take a while without healers. And no its not just a burst fest either.

3v3 really feels like the sweet spot for the combat system though.

I have exhaustive experience running essentially 5vN death match and would be happy to discuss likely strategy or anything else. Especially with devs:)

MrFluffy.9307:

DR, you do know the reason you’re winning is because you have WAY more people right? IoJ is the superior server and we’d be winning if you weren’t always playing for second. We’re in this tier because of our awesome commanders. DH I have nothing to say to you guys really, you guys have pretty good commanders but I was lmao last night when [Cast] and a few pugs managed to get back our keep in EB while outmanned and fighting off your zerg. Of course you guys took it back 20 minutes later with your infamous zerging abilities.
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You talk like everyone from DR in this thread doessent think wvw is about population. You’re just wrong on the superior part. You guys are worse open field than DH is.