Guild Wars 2

And internet

How rediculous

And the complaining about complaint threads~~

Its wasted effort posting these things. We are all playing essentially the same game as at release, warts and all, and with the geologic time scale for balance and content updates none of this stuff is going to receive attention.

Wvw don’t pay the bills.

People talk about culling like it’ll be fixed next week. 7 something months now. Its very possible it will never be fixed

they stated months ago that the wvw patch was pushed out one (1) month!

what a funny thread

what a funny kaining

Beep beep kittenes

The glamour Mesmer doessent kill anyone. Gettin thiefd when you can’t defend yourself does. Its the A #1 lockdown method and only people that play at a fairly high level use it well. Hence the above post.

Already done and shelved it for the Mesmer.

And I’ll play daoc when you template my bard out thanks in advance~~

As I mentioned in the last thread the people using this effectively are not the common zergers. It really effects only a small subset of the player base.

No. Confusion is bad because it keeps you from defending.

Agramon island in daoc was nothing but open space with no strategic worth whatsoever.

I disagree. Plenty of other games developed interesting and rather unpredictable play. All the zergers are going to go pvdoor anyway.

For more zerg bombing hilarity everyone run asura with pain inverter.

Stiv.1820:

I guess true balance is achieved when everyone thinks everyone else is OP. We are getting close!

A common misconception. Imagine if everyone had a utility that insta killed the target. Balanced but op/un-fun to play against/bad design.

Precicely. Everyone comes away happy.

Yes indeed!

15chars

Torch offhand and trait gives removal on the prestige.

A new map. No objectives, just rolling golf course like hills and a sparse amount of structure. A main place for everyone to have some good fights, “emain” if you will.

I guess bad players should be against the tos too.

dreztina.4820:

For those of you who go to duels, what do you think about doing a ‘roam zone’ night instead sometime this week? It’d be much less organized, no real rules. Basically just pick a zone and all the roamers head there and attack on sight. It’d be less about setting up clean fights and more just simulating real roaming but with the action concentrated in one area. Just an idea as I know I’m not the only one who thinks duels can be a bit stale after a while.

This is a great idea

We don’t really troll when on the winning side. It usually means we outnumber everyone so hard it sucks as much for us as it does you. I hope this round doessent end up that way.

D/p has way more cheese than d/d. At least you can stun break the combo and dodge c&d.

dreztina.4820:

Setsunayaki.4907:

I like finding you in the field (Maguma’s OG guild) but you play dirty. We started looking for you because you made claims about how you could win in even fights. Last time we encountered you we sat two of our players down so you could have a squared-even fight. When your health started getting low, you tried to gank the players that were sitting down that were not fighting directly with you.

The fact remains that good or bad, your server’s score was wiped out.

I am not doing some “oh yeah, we pwn you all”, considering we could go to another tier and lose out, to be zapped back to the same tier as you. Guess what, it already happened and the players here agree those fights were a million times better than encounters with you.

Sure you have your good guilds and all, but the fact remains you aren’t doing your server favors in the way you play. It might be laughs when you stealth gank players across the field, but it doesn’t translate to the PP your server needs.

You do know that Thursday nights guilds across the three servers in the tier set up the vs combat between 2v2s and 5v5s in WvW. You could find some fun there on the field, rather than roaming, cause it really hurts your group when one of you die and the others still are on the field. Trust me, I know how it feels.

I am on FA itself, but we are all gamers here and some of us here like small, structured groups and I always look for good 5v5s out there on the field. Its not always a zergball.

Well, have fun.
See you on the field.

Edit: Edited for clarity and to be specific.

I still don’t have any idea who you are. Can’t respond to what you are saying when you don’t post your guild tag so we can actually know what fights you’re talking about.

Niim.9260:

Imo the only thing that will change the size and number of zergs is going to be the WvW progression system. If they implement it so that a kill is worth a set number of points divided by the number of people involved its death, then small groups will become more popular. If they leave it as it is now with full xp on kill for everyone, then zergs will likely become even more popular.

“Colin: WvW updates will not introduce new skills. Will bring passive abilities aimed towards group play eg. Extra supply #foodwars”

This was just posted recently. Doesn’t make me very hopeful for the future of competitive wvw play. If they are aiming the progression abilities towards zerg play, then they’ll probably aim the progression itself towards zerging too.

With you here. Got to feed dat zerg apparently. Only hope is if adds a bunch of support stuff that will open up play a little.

Teamkiller.4315:

Acelerion.6820:

Huh, I always thought those were population/coverage rankings…

Again, the dude who professes he doesn’t give a kitten about his score tries to submit excuses for the way the rankings are?

If you really didn’t care you wouldn’t respond now would you. And before you get on my case about caring about the score, I DO. lol.

Actually I’m getting on someone for sticking their chest out over having more people on their side but whateves~~

Huh, I always thought those were population/coverage rankings…

I don’t personally care about the attention. I do get frustrated when people use these arguments to excuse their own play when responding to people from OG however.

You guys realize that none of the roamers give a kitten and keeps and sieges either right?

EnRohbi.2187:

Acelerion.6820:

Its funny how people can’t even wrap their heads around the concept of not caring about the score

It’s funny how the server in last place always brings that up o;

Thank you for making my point for me.

Its funny how people can’t even wrap their heads around the concept of not caring about the score

I think that screenshot sums up a lot that is wrong with the game though. That damage seems reasonable against a tanky guardian but one shots anything with the slightest hint of glass.

The thief pays a big price to go full glass and its frustrating to unload and see a guardian at 1/3 health who heals to full and could easily mop the floor with him from there.

p/d or d/d backstab, hundred blades, kill shot, mind wrack, 100nades (granted the difficulty) all are over the top but at the same time so is the guardian/ele bunker crap.

Theres no balance here. Its a game of extremes.

if he hits you in the front and doesent get the high damage backstab it still says backstab in the combat log

Many classes fight at an advantage against a typical d/d thief. Once you avoid the burst its over. The ability to run from any fight is silly and adding into larger fights, especially as d/p is cheese city. But 1v1 you have to flat outplay most classes to get a win.

its a system where everyone, thieves and people who play against them, are frustrated with the mechanics. Its bad design and I wouldent mind a change. Burst/bunker in general are too powerful at both extremes.

Just to add something different it feels like the game at the 1v1, 2v2 level is really rock/paper/scissorsy. Its hard to notice unless you run into the same people with a different setup.

Thieves dont match up well against some classes, especially d/d. The ele fills a lot of holes and acts as constant pressure and a distraction that allows the thief to set up burst better.

Weve wrecked some high end thief duos as thief/ele. The class combo is just better.

ele/thief

You can think up many counters to that group but nothing else provides as much burst/bunker, healing, and mobility. Its an all around wonder duo.

graverr.6473:

Skupuz .

GvG 25 is anything like and have nothing in common with small numbers spvp mechanics.8v8 already exists for ppl with your kind of prefference .That kind of gameplay for us WvW players is unapealing.

Also by following your logic the battle of Gettysburg had lesser complexity of engagement than a 5v5 bar fight.

ITT we compare video games to real life war

Yes it does. And necros are in a fairly bad place anyway. Nerfing epidemic would nearly destroy them

Hah yaks talking kitten. Now I’ve seen it all

Hib lance here:p

Which server would benefit everyone the most and be the most stable?

Weve been thinking pretty hard about this. Unfortunately serious though only started after paid transfers went in so Im still trying to round some people up.

Have any small groups had success zerg busting that dont use a kite and extend strategy? If the ae cap was lifted I could see a pressure strategy work which would change things considerably.

At the end of the day it takes a fixed amount of time to stomp someone but rezzing is faster with larger numbers. Running 10 you have the luxury of being able to put multiple people on a rez and not get a ton of pressure due to your offense dieing. Theres a magic number in there somewhere between 5 and 10.

Quenta.2978:

Acelerion.6820:

Are you really making the argument rez/rally doessent benefit the side with the numbers?

The benefit is equal to all parties as are the results of the mechanic. If you don’t down your opponent faster than they down you, you risk rallying more of your opponents. This can happen with any amount of people in an engagement.

In fact, I would go as far to say that a very skilled, small group that can tag more opponents have the ability to rally off their opponents deaths more effectively than a smaller group. A smaller group (vs a larger group) has a larger pool of enemies to target and have the possibility to rally off of. A larger group has a limited amount of players to rally off of.

Either way, you have to kill faster than your opponent or you lose.

I don’t even know what to say to this. If you fight 5v20 how many invulnerabilities should I bring to stamp them all? How much HP do I need to live through 5 people throwing rocks at me for 1.5k a pop while I hold a giant “spike me now” sign over my head trying to drop one guy.

As a 5 man if one of us goes down its kitten near over while the 20 get chance after chance. Its not anywhere close to offering the same benefit.

There’s hardly any open ground to fight on. One side just runs to the nearest keep and start shooting siege at the people who chase. In other words maps are way to small.

Jesus what happened to this match up. Its one big zerg per map and you cant find anyone outside of that. As soon as we start running 4 we cant find anything to fight:/

First if you spec a Mesmer pure condition damage you’re doing it wrong. 8 stacks will still hit you around 2k a pop so enjoy not doing anything while I hit you with a follow up shatter for 10k.

Second check on the link in my sig. It necro perspective confusion+epidemic (which we don’t run anymore for other reasons). It will give you an idea of the usual damage numbers. Remember only the stacks I apply show on my screen as damage. The person is taking double in most cases from the shatter. 4-6k tics are fairly common for a good bomb.

The damage done by the stack after epidemic is calculated based on the necros condition damage and not the mezmer. You can use power mezmers and still put out the hurt. It forces people to either die to confusion or to regular dps by being forced to run around in circles.

After a certain level of not being brain dead the 30 win every time. Just because 4 people beat 30 functionally afk guys this one time doessent mean the balance is where it should be.

We’ve beat 30 with 5 as well (killed 30. Its impossible to fully wipe it thanks to rezzing and need to extend). It requires pitiful play and plenty of up levels. All they have to do is push and its game over.

Actually the back stab is precast so the whole thing basically happens at t=0 as far as humans are concerned. Haste makes the followup heart seeker unavoidable. Better hope that stun break is also a teleport/ immunity!

Its funny because all these people telling the op he suck would get flat rolled if you ran into them.

No one is talking about common zergers btw. You won’t even see this stuff outside of high level play.