I go close in solo que unless there are multiple DH’s on other team as that is a matchup that gives me trouble, but when duo que’ing I prefer going mid and trying to get a quick gank on something with moa, works most of the time.
Rating deviation will no longer increase in future season to stop situations like this.
you need to do somethign about the current season. Some peope exploited the decay and others got a couple lucky wins and ended up at 200+ higher MMR than where they belong. leaderboard dosent mean anything until thhis is fixed for THE CURRENT SEASON
Sorry but I would take a well executed and tested patch over something which won’t be properly tested and may completely destroy the leaderboard. It’s 6 days left, there isn’t enough time to exploit that much anymore and if good players want to make a stand against the exploiters they can and wreck the exploiters rating. It’s high risk, high reward.
Not if they have jobs during the day. And the people abusing this dont just que whenever they feel like it, they make sure to dodge anyone that can give them difficulty and they don’t need very many wins to go up hundreds of points.
I just made a thread as well about decay, it seems theirs a massive bug as I was -700 decay and my first win I got 81 skill rating alone which should be impossible, +100 from decay back putting me at +181 after a single match. It also seems like some of the top players are exploiting it.
Stop making CD a host server, last merging we didn’t win a single week out of the 9 weeks we were merged, and most those weeks we had a max of 5 first place skirmish victories throughout an entire week. Stop. Everyone left CD when you guys made it a 4server merge and stuck us in t4 for 5/6 weeks with no way to get out until you manually adjusted our glicko.
CD needs it lol. Ya’ll a bunch of pew pew, spam 1, fight under siege guilds. CD blob of 40 could not even handle a open field fight with our 15 peeps lol. Better yet Maybe Anet should give you one more server so I can get even more bags lol.
I guess this isn’t that high on there priority list to fix with todays patch not mentioning a fix, unlike removing achievement points from top 250 rewards which was instantly replied to and they had to have meetings to discuss.
I’ll try investigating this more, but from what I undestand your decayed rating doesn’t determine who you are matched against. So in theory, when you came back you were still playing against gold players. Your decayed rating only affects your leader board position and nothing else.
This is correct. Decay does not affect your matchmaking. With our current decay settings, you can work off your decay in 7 games.
Wait, that means;
1) a correct placed player will have a match making with 50/50 win rate
2) decay reduces the division
3) but you gain it back when you win all games, in the previous division you had a 50/50 win rate
D) something here seems odd
You gain back 100 points of decayed rating per game played, not per game won.
This is incorrect. I tested the decay partly because i was on holidays, the max decay is 700. If you win games, you get 100 off of decay every time and you gain rating on top of that, if you lose, your decay stays the same but you lose your rating. So decay is there basically just to prevent ppl who reached leaderboard from staying there without playing games.
You lose 100 decay a game regardless of win or loss
Stop making CD a host server, last merging we didn’t win a single week out of the 9 weeks we were merged, and most those weeks we had a max of 5 first place skirmish victories throughout an entire week. Stop. Everyone left CD when you guys made it a 4server merge and stuck us in t4 for 5/6 weeks with no way to get out until you manually adjusted our glicko.
I think we were in the same match http://imgur.com/a/qvQZT
If this was league of legends or any other competitive MMO, this kitten would be fixed day 1.
Bumping because im still having an issue, now im 1749 and still im not in top 250 when I should be ranked 232 based off the leaderboards. And rank 250 is 1712 atm, putting me 37 points ahead of rank 250.
Currently I’m at a personal & skill rating of 1727 which should be enough to put me just in the bottom of the top 250 but that is not the case as seen in the screenshot. Not sure what the issue may be. The lowest rating on it right now is 1723 as seen in the screenshot.
Last night I was watching a stream of a well known ESL player playing another persons account and he was able to get into the top 10 with it. For obvious reasons I am not going to point fingers because I don’t want this thread deleted but he was in the same TS/Skype call of the account owner, and they were blatantly talking about it which also included him asking what his keybindings were and telling the other person in voice coms he was changing some among other things. Afterwards when the streamer logged off/went to sleep, that same account continued to que some games which then dropped him back out of the top 10 but still top 25, some people might know who I’m talking about because their were a lot of people watching.
This isn’t a matter of a player playing an alt account, it was quite clear that it was account sharing based on the chatter and my question to Anet is will you be doing anything about this sort of issue. This type of thing was quite rampant in another MMO you directly compete with(WoW) and often nothing was done. People even often agreed to share Rank1 titles too by having the exact same rating which I personally never saw a problem with as long as it didn’t involve account sharing or throwing games which often did happen, and I’m quite certain by the end of the season this game will also have 5+ people sharing Rank 1, whether it’s through illegitimate means or not, is yet to be seen. Will you(Anet) be keeping logs of IP addresses on the top accounts getting titles this season to prevent this sort of thing from happening, as that would be the easiest way to deal with it, or are you going to just let it happen, because account sharing the top titles is already happening.
I had this winner of a teammate while proceeding to go 27-1 in the 2 matches I was partied with him, some matches you just aren’t suppose to win based off comps. But they will pull out any excuse they can as long as it isn’t there fault. http://imgur.com/a/ZXw71
Ive played 143 game won 76 of those. Now most of the time I get at least 2 badges from being a top player but yet my skills rating wont move past 700 this is broke . I have people in my frinds list that have 1800 skill rating and they lost way more then they won
Idk how the EU ladders are but in NA there are currently 0 players in the top 250 with a 50/50 win/loss record, let alone a losing record and that goes down all the way to the 1750’s. So I’m gonna say a lie.
No your skill rating doesn’t change and that determines matchmaking, all it means is if you get 2k+ you can sit on that all season and then que at the end for your title. Thus making the whole point of the Decay system worthless. It’s suppose to keep people que’ing.
I decided to test the decay system by not que’ing for a few days and got to -160 before I que’d my first match. My first match was a loss and it resulted in the normal -skill points(21) but what suprised me was that I got +100 back from my decay which resulted in me getting 79overall rating. So currently if you get your max decay(-700) you will get right back to your skill rating in just 7 games regardless of wins/losses, and it won’t affect your skill rating whatsoever.
They will when the next expansion gets closer. The new expansion will come with all new elite builds to replace the old nerfed elite builds so anyone who wants to be competitive is forced to buy another expansion. Guaranteed.
Legit last straw for me if this is the legendary shield, many of my friends quit shortly AFTER the start of this expansion but I carried on through desert bl, content drought and everything else that made this expansion a disappointment in the eyes of many. If this is seriously considered legendary in the eyes of Anet I will not be buying any future expansions. I don’t like flameseeker prophecies that much to begin with, mostly because it doesn’t glow when shiefed making it look bad and was looking forward to the legendary shield that was suppose to be coming with this expansion for my mesmer, but if it’s that, no thanks.
When I made my first post about CD’s glicko back when it was a 4 server linking (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Glicko-making-it-impossible-for-CD-to-move-T3/first) it was literally impossible for CD to move out of t4 at the time, now it seems that Anet is adjusting the second place winners this week(Dragonbrand) for +150, even though HOD won this week. What is the reasoning for boosting the second place server out of T4, instead of the first place server?
That’s nice but why is CD still open, our population is massive with multiple ques at all times of the day that it’s not even fair for our opponents. Please fix this anet, either move us up to T1 where we will be against servers with similar population, or close transfers to CD. I had to wait 4 hours last night to get into EBG…
Why not just open up free transfers for a week or 2 for everyone to see where everyone goes and then change things from there. See what servers die as a result and delete them or merge them permanently. This gives big guilds a chance to stay together on a new server.
At least a dozen guilds would just go to BG, creating even more imbalance.
True, guess that server should stay full, and a few others should only be opened until they reach a certain capacity. I think it’s just ridiculous to add more servers atm, when server linkings are currently required to even keep things interesting.
Why not just open up free transfers for a week or 2 for everyone to see where everyone goes and then change things from there. See what servers die as a result and delete them or merge them permanently. This gives big guilds a chance to stay together on a new server.
The “high” mark doesn’t adequately show the wvw population on the server, like others have said here, DB hybernated for a long time now and the players just didn’t play. That’s why they are considered tier 4 now and thus get the same amouth of links as the other tier 4 servers.
But yes, they have a large SEA-time crew including those guilds. HoD has a huge EU crew instead (especially when you play into EU-time), crushing everything for weeks now. Should we get no link because of that?
But of course it is possible that DB wakes up and we will lose, but imho it is still a fair and good fight, even if we lose. We will have good fights.
Nope, I have more faith in system indicator than human estimation, afterall, majority people can’t differentiate between 20ish from 30ish and so on. Also. HOD remains medium despite having larger EU, again, system status indicator. It is simple to say that HOD has a lot more regular wvwers and commanders on average than other T4 servers, keeping the server afloat despite lesser overall numbers.
Regardless, now we entering weekdays, DB is catching up in PPT, demonstrating their higher coverage aka higher overall populations. I was not wrong about DB links having much more, I am not wrong to find such linking logically absurd. I don’t have to see how it will go in weekdays because the logic is already that absurd.
You didn’t train nobody because you refused to work with anyone from sf. There’s only 5 English speaking guilds in sf and we can all confirm cd never even tried to talk to us. You’re not just bad commanders. Because now you’re lying to our faces.
And that’s saying a lot coming from the server of guilds that can’t even fight RED without booking it before killing them. Stay in your lane.
Maybe you guys could actually achieve something if your server wasn’t so busy always talking trash on forums.
No worries, I have a few CDers that added me into their friend list. They blocked me the moment I whisper them for politely asking them to join HOD, in fact, only CD peeps ever blocked me for that. Really rude individuals, especially if you think about the fact that they are the one that added you into their friendlist. Totally reminds me why I get my guild to leave CD.
I think the best way to fix this would be to increase the radius of point nodes so that you aren’t forced to sit in traps and other AoE to contest a node, they have always been too small if you ask me.
This video was made around the start of season 4, when few if anyone had reached legend by then. 4DH team demolishes us, our dragonhunter died instantly in the mid fight when we had the advantage with +1, it was a 4v3 in our favor and we lost. The guardians had no skill too, they sat on points all game and I woulda won the 2v1 at the end against the thief/dh had the game not finished. Idk how to fix DH because I sorta agree that you see very few good quality DH’s in higher play, but they are currently roflstomping anyone that isn’t above average in pvp right now.
Also idk how I didnt avoid the spear of justice at 5:17 in this vid, as a result I lost 11k HP in 1 second.
You seriously want to use this as proof that DH is overpowered? Your team’s Elementalist rage quit 2:30 into the match when you guys were only down 60 points. I can’t take anything in this video seriously because it was a 5v4. Not only that but your team had 2 mesmers against 4 DHs and no classes able to hold a point against that comp. This proves absolutely nothing.
Maybe he rage quit because we lost a 4v3 in mid against 3 of the same class? I called it before gates even opened the GG twice in map/team chat because I had seen this all season, 3 or 4 dragonhunters on the same team win, and he probably realized it too after mid fight.
As for the double mesmer comment, mesmers fair just fine against DH, especially when the DH’s are as bad as the ones in that video. The only time I was under any kind of pressure was at the start because I had to go for resses on teamates and I got 2/3 off. The one res I was unable to get off was on the necro when I took 10k passive dmg instantly while the enemy DH was feared by the downstate necro. I couldnt distortion res either btw because I had to use that to get the stomp off on the enemy DH just prior.
Entire rest of the match I was under no pressure and given a bit more time I would have won those 1v1 fights, but that’s the current state of DH, is to be able to sustain like that. The whole reason I decided to record that match was because I already knew what the outcome was going to be because I had seen it all season, granted I thought we would have done at least a bit better…
This video was made around the start of season 4, when few if anyone had reached legend by then. 4DH team demolishes us, our dragonhunter died instantly in the mid fight when we had the advantage with +1, it was a 4v3 in our favor and we lost. The guardians had no skill too, they sat on points all game and I woulda won the 2v1 at the end against the thief/dh had the game not finished. Idk how to fix DH because I sorta agree that you see very few good quality DH’s in higher play, but they are currently roflstomping anyone that isn’t above average in pvp right now.
Since mega-servers were introduced 1 or 2 years ago, guesting to other servers has had no use in this game. By letting players be able to guest to Obsidian Sanctum you will help rejuvenate a PvP population and the map in general. Being able to GvG other guilds from other tiers or even NA to EU would be a great addition to a dying part of this game, GvG’s. Outside of maybe T1 and T2, OS is a complete ghost town, it serves almost no purpose since you removed the ability to gain kill points on the map because of EU cheaters kill trading at spawn. Please consider this request Anet, GvG’s in EOTM are horrible as the layout is very bad and pugs constantly get in the way.
Also the guild hall arena is too small, please make it bigger as currently no one really uses it unless they are forced to.
You are wrong about noone complaining. I can remember plenty of complains about Moa/Portal pre HoT.
Clearly you remember wrong then, no mesmers ran moa back before HoT because of the extremely long CD so everyone ran mass invis, it only became meta because of continuum shift lowering the CD to a minute and change.
The whole Moa skill (and Portal skill) should be removed from PvP, both are way too overpowered to be allowed in a pvp game
Moa and portal existed before the expansion but no one complained about it then, even when Moa lasted 10 seconds instead of it’s current 6. Why? Because power mesmer is hard countered by thief, something that every pro level team had and condi mesmer didn’t exist back then. Moa and portal is not the problem.
I’ve known about this for a while as it’s very similar to the WoW Ranked Battlegrounds wintrading to 2200rating and buy weapons/elite armor And WoW with tons more resources did nothing to stop there wintrading fiasco, I fully expect Anet to do nothing about this even if it becomes rampant (except delete threads about it). It’s even easier in this game to wintrade because if your que’s don’t pop at the same time, you dont even have to click decline and get the CD timer where you can’t que again, 1 person/account just leaves party and it cancels, then the account rejoins party and you can que right away again. It’s a very easy system to beat that will likely be exploited much more this season because of the changes to the MMR system making legend grind take longer.
but how do you get through ruby and diamond with this ?
hmm
say at
0/30 ruby
group A 5 players lose 3 games, 0/30 ruby
group B 5 players win 3 games, 4/30 ruby
group A – win 3 games, 5/30 ruby
group B – lose 3 games, 1/30 ruby
group A – lose 3 games, 2/30 ruby
group B – win 3 games, 6/30 ruby
group A – win 3 games, 7/30 ruby
group B – lose 3 games, 3/30 ruby
well, its gonna take a lot of games i think.
Not as many as you think, comeback bonus after losing 3 straight is +2 pips, +1 pip from second victory, and +2 pips for the winstreak. So for every 6 games you play you will end up at +2 pips (5 pips from 3wins -3 from 3 losses). Yes its still a grind but people will do it just like how people wintrade dailies in personal servers and Anet does nothing about it. Also lots of people have multiple accounts so you don’t exactly need 10 players, just 10 accounts, they don’t even need to have HOT. Also if you have multiple accounts you can change the rosters so your main account is always getting wins.
I disagree, when the same class can take up 4 out of 5 spots on a team and completely dominate another team then somethings wrong. I’ve played against quad-DH 3 or 4 times since hitting ruby and lost every one quite badly. Have also faced triple DH pretty often as well and rarely win those too. Anet needs to do something because their are 9 classes to choose from and having games with 3 or 4 of the same class that then dominate a game is ridiculous.
Faced a Quad-DH team and my team got absolutely demoshed, mid ruby. This is ridiculous, and before you DH’s say 4v5 lol, it was basically a 3cap before our 5th DC’d. I was also forcing the enemy thief to rotate far and mid leaving my team to 3v2 at home and they couldn’t take it. 1 DH sat at far and another mid and thief rotated with me leaving 2 DH’s at home and the other 3 players on my team couldn’t 3v2 because DH OP. I had 1 death and rotated as good as anyone could, they won a 3v2 in mid at start as well because of the massive pressure and sustain they can do
Faced a Quad-DH team and my team got absolutely demoshed, mid ruby. This is ridiculous, and before you DH’s say 4v5 lol, it was basically a 3cap before our 5th DC’d. I was also forcing the enemy thief to rotate far and mid leaving my team to 3v2 at home and they couldn’t take it. 1 DH sat at far and another mid and thief rotated with me leaving 2 DH’s at home and the other 3 players on my team couldn’t 3v2 because DH OP. I had 1 death and rotated as good as anyone could, they won a 3v2 in mid at start as well because of the massive pressure and sustain they can do
lol after respawn i was winning the far fight twice but thief came to +1 and towards the end I probably woulda 2v1’d the thief and DH on point, so not really my fault. Mid fight everyone died before me and I got off 2 solo resses in that fight. So please don’t talk if you cant back it up, my playstyle was fine.
Faced a Quad-DH team and my team got absolutely demoshed, mid ruby. This is ridiculous, and before you DH’s say 4v5 lol, it was basically a 3cap before our 5th DC’d. I was also forcing the enemy thief to rotate far and mid leaving my team to 3v2 at home and they couldn’t take it. 1 DH sat at far and another mid and thief rotated with me leaving 2 DH’s at home and the other 3 players on my team couldn’t 3v2 because DH OP. I had 1 death and rotated as good as anyone could, they won a 3v2 in mid at start as well because of the massive pressure and sustain they can do
Faced a Quad-DH team and my team got absolutely demoshed, mid ruby. This is ridiculous, and before you DH’s say 4v5 lol, it was basically a 3cap before our 5th DC’d. I was also forcing the enemy thief to rotate far and mid leaving my team to 3v2 at home and they couldn’t take it. 1 DH sat at far and another mid and thief rotated with me leaving 2 DH’s at home and the other 3 players on my team couldn’t 3v2 because DH OP. I had 1 death and rotated as good as anyone could, they won a 3v2 in mid at start as well because of the massive pressure and sustain they can do
Full Condi Core mesmer – that confusion stack is good for noob going on flavor of the month, right?
Any other great suggestion?
Condi mesmer against good DH’s don’t stand a chance. When they aren’t blocking or blinding us, there traps and AoE are 1shotting all our illusions making it impossible to get good shatters. Can’t sit on the DH because of the traps so have to give up node, and can’t fight them at ranged because there longbow beats our staff. Either way its extremely difficult to get illusions to spawn even with Signet of illusions(50% illusion HP) and Persisting Images(20% llusion HP), so even with +70% illusion hp they still die too quickly. Just gotta out rotate them as a mesmer, I just drop a port and leave forcing him to stay there.
, granted I thought we would have done at least a bit better…