I can’t stop laughing. Every time you mention Zerker’s Stance. It’s way too slow if combat was slower maybe but just lol not even mentioning adrenaline decay if your not in comabt when you pop it.
I bet stability and dodge rolls mean nothing to you
lol did a hammer warrior touch you in a naughty place? Was your dodge button sticky?
Is this Engie invade the warrior forums day or something?
When someone makes a response like that it’s an auto win right?
Ever heard of Larcenous strike?
If it’s wvw I could probably kill you in a 5 signet build. If I couldn’t kill you or the fight lasts long enough that you get me low I would run away.
I don’t know any decent wvw warriors that run hammer and axe/shield those 2 weapons don’t go to together at all. Congrats you beat a scrub warrior and then came to the warrior forums to brag about it.
Ya play a warrior build diversity is through the roof with the warrior class everything is so crap, anyway you play it is optimal
lol 4% base crit chance pretty pro really making use of that perma fury and 30% crit damage. Were you exiled from the Engie forums and that’s why you decided to come and post your epic struggle against a warrior?
That’s actually one of the better weapon combos since this last patch. Warrior CCs are garbage especially against a decent thief.
lol you have to trait for a chance to do that and bleed specs on a warrior are doody the only reason you want to have a bleed up on your target is to take advantage of the grandmaster minor in arms.
and just lol 900×2 is 1800 yeah almost 2k except he said his wakittenting for 2k. Dual Shot in glass gear will hit for 1200 crit. With full adrenaline, 25 stacks of might, food and bloodlust you might get to 2k in a perfect wolrd.
ya there’s a reason why they don’t build that way
I’m saying the damage is so poor longbow isn’t used that way.
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You’re not really defeating a burst cleanse either since alot of classes have passive removal let alone they save their cleanse for pin down which is the setup for other abilities.
If it’s traited you will do less damage overall cause of the 10% damage buff they gave to dual shot a couple patches ago but forgot to apply to stronger bow strings trait. It’s very hard to get ppl to stand in combustive shot let along keep plinking away on someone to stack a very weak burn.
How is the less than 1 second of burn from dual shot going through combustive shot’s fire field an awesome amount of condition application?
lol what the… It’s fine unless you want to use it as your main weapon lol. Straight up classic warrior forums right there. So it’s not fine lol
In my glass pve gear I don’t hit 2k dual shots god you must run an even glassier setup than what I take to pve lol.
Dual Shot is bad I’d gladly take a bleed or a burning arrow auto over it then we could work towards getting a decent 2 skill for the longbow.
care to post a video of you guys beating a non garbage thief?
Sword is not a condition weapon the bleed application is terrible. Sword is a decent direct damage weapon you could also make the case for it being a better support weapon or setup weapon with the immob, savage leap and traited leg specialist for hamstring.
Flurry is total crap as well and only used for the initial immo and then either canceled with movement, sheathing your weapons or weapon swapping.
Do us all a favor and say no to skills that root you in place for a channeled duration.
it’s actually an improvement but yea….
You could even look at it this way Arenanet had the chance to design a whole new trait for a class a whole new grandmaster trait. What do they come up with an enemy based empowered HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
ya I mean the biggest actual changes for that last balance patch was burst mastery and the cast time reduction on fan of fire which is still doo doo lol.
I mean its a freaking gib trait which the warrior sucks at anyways.
Right DotE is garbage because it was made for extremely situational plays to get any sort of benefit of it your target has to have every boon on it and you essentially need to be running evis or killshot and signet of might to make sure the hit lands.
Absolutely garbage trait all this 1+1 theorcrafting bullcrap means nothing when you understand the reality of how the trait actually works on a warrior.
From reading what you wrote I think you’re like most of the warrior forum trolls just afraid of warriors becoming competitive in this game which is just sad. I don’t understand how you can accuse me of making stuff up when my reply was bullet for bullet counterpoints to what you posted.
I never said other players should get the banner skills to use I hope they don’t but maybe they could get 1 or 2 and be able to move the banner so the area effect can be repositioned when it’s planted on the ground or detached when downed or stomped.
I mean you use terms like overpowered which is laughable in the warrior forums. Are we not trying to get warrior’s into team comps and actually be a boon not a detriment?
Maybe you think your experience from 8v8 hotjoin zerging and playing your warrior as a banner buffbot for other players is a great play style idk.
umm You could have one banner on your back and if you want to run with more than one banner utility they can be on the ground like they are now and people could pick them up.
uhh you could have them persist on the ground after you get stomped or downed as well if you get downed with it on your back the banner could be planted on the ground again to gain it’s effect once more by another player
I don’t understand the no blast finisher comment I want to make the skills better and more usable in combat not remove them so idk what you meant there.
I see ALOT of improvements that can be made to banners. I think your arguing for the sake of arguing at this point and not putting much thought into this. Your arguing against changes to a class that is on the absolute bottom of the barrel I guess you have no shame or something but then again it is the internet.
also the stability from battle standard is base 3 seconds with a 1 second cast time on a 15 second cooldown.
Banners are also a source of swiftness but since they suck we’re only left with signet of rage and with even more boon steals in the game now it’s kind of detriment to be running long duration boons it’s an even bigger target over your head. Guess we can always run warhorn lol.
I don’t understand how you can be against banners going on the back and access to the skills. It’s one of the better suggestions coming out of these forums. mind boggling
but then even if we didn’t have the tiered trait system you still have the clunky underpowered banner skills when picking up a banner.
I don’t understand where you ppl come from are you Arenanet’s QA ppl?
You also have to realize back in the betas there was no tiered trait system so you could essentially run Inspiring Battle Standard trait in the adept slot instead of having to go a full 30 points into Tactics.
The tiered trait system essentially killed any builds using that trait and Arenanet has done nothing to improve grandmaster traits to make them worthy of the title I guess you could count the new Burst Mastery trait but still I don’t think it’s worthy of the tiered trait system.
Banners are terrible you can’t spend those 2 or 3 seconds picking it up and using one of the skills which are terrible combat isn’t that slow in this game. Banners are a fire and forget utility for situational pve that’s it
For a grandmaster trait aoe regen is crap
It’s pretty common knowledge that the banner skills that replace your weapon skills when holding the banner are garbage. You have to Trait heavily into Tactics to get the banner to give aoe regen and increase the radius and reduce the cooldown those 2 traits should be rolled into one.
I don’t really understand how I’m the one with the dumb butt comment when you wrote 2 walls of text saying nothing more than tooltip quotes and praising banners when in reality they are terrible. You’re essentially running a pve build in hotjoin pvp and telling people it’s great when it’s not. You’re just another person that comes into threads that are trying to bring warriors out from the bottom and saying “Hey guys I like using terrible utilities because I like them please don’t change the terrible utilities I use.” If you think you have added anything to this conversation I find that hilarious.
INB4 Thieves come in and say L2P!!
now I’ve seen it all someone that uses banners in spvp and thinks banners are almost perfect wtf
I would go for the undead race for pvp because they have will of the foresaken
hmm just used it it’s not as bad a animation as I remember it.
Doesn’t Arcing Slice’s animation suck it’s like a weird over the head fly swat?
ohh god no not another flurry please no
it’s like playing in slow motion we’re in the matrix!
From what i’ve heard, 100b is actually getting a 20-40% damage nerf. Rightly so as well. Its been holding this profession back far too long.
Are you serious? i got 6 ascended berserker trinkets on my warrior and i don’t like this at all. guess its time to reroll.
lol you would seriously reroll over a damage nerf to 100 blades? lol of all the things that’s hilarious if true and not sarcasm?
I’d support hundred blades getting a projectile relfect hell outside of tank and spank pve fight hundred blades has zero uses. Hundred Blades is a horribly designed skill.
Please refrain from giving other players tips.
That video was a really great showcase of the overpowered warrior downed state. Expect nerfs soon.
I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m saying.
If you’re running with a guardian heavy zerg or not there is still absolutely no point for you to be in a shout build at all. Also you have it backwards the way guardians work compared to warriors, guardians have 5 times the health pool warriors have at least.
I don’t think you’re understanding me with the clerics gear statement either. I’m not telling you to switch your PVT gear with Clerics in the terrible shout build you run I don’t care what you run. You do terrible damage in your PVT gear anyways. I’ll repost it for you “Clerics is a much better choice to supplement going deep into tactics and defense.”
Shout healing is garbage with any gear you run. You seem to understand that so you can drop 10 points from tactics now that we came to that understanding.
You list all your condition cleanses and then mention overkill couldn’t of said it better myself. It’s been almost 5 months since WvW warriors have invested that heavily in condition cleanses. Melandru Runes, Lemongrass Poultry and now Dogged March have sent Soldier Runes into obscurity and before that the Guardian class as a whole is what put Shout builds 6 feet under 9 months ago.
You might get those damage numbers against up leveled glass cannon characters but against a decent lvl 80 in blues you would be lucky to break 1500 damage let alone actually connect cause the hammer is so slow. Even in solo fights against what you usually see roaming in small groups or solo in WvW you would stand no chance against a bunker ele, phantasm mesmer let alone a semi aggressive sword thief in WvW. You would never be able to walk away with just Savage Leap and Swiftness either lol.
Fury in your build has no significance hell your not even at 50% crit rate it’s a wasted stat the way you have your warrior setup.
No one in T1 EU or T5-T6 runs shout warriors and if they do they have no real understanding of the non existent benefit they provide. I get it you think that your setup works but in reality anything works when you zerg with 2 groups of guardians running around in circles spamming staff 1.
I understand I will never convince a person like you and I do not care to. I’m still waiting for you to post those few viable builds for the OP though.
Even though I think you’ve been really dishonest with how you’ve replied to me and kind of rude.
I’ll show you why you’re wrong with what you first posted.
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Warrior can bunker really well. So good even that you can completely ignore 2 thiefs attacking you. They can clean of tons of conditions and heal their team for a decent amount. Only problem is, there are only a few builds vailable to do this. And you got to be a good player. Timing your shouts and warhorn skills really well to get the best benefit out of it. You can have a pretty good protection and regen uptime with if it if you do it well.
And your damage will still be high enough to not be ignored. Full PVT still gives a lot of power and you got 100% fury uptime. Combine it with the right food and you still be able to dish out enough damage to kill your enemies. So yea, because warrior hits like a truck, you can go full defensive.
Never ever go full zerker in WvW, those are laughable warriors. People see them as walking loot bags. Bunker is the way. And believe me, I tried all build. I have full exotic armor sets on my warrior, all weapons in many different stats and a great deal of exotic and ascended jewelery. I am nearing the 100 exotics mark now ^^.
Warriors do not bunker it’s just wrong to say that because warriors have very bad access to protection you mention they have pretty good access to protection but that’s not true. Warriors need to run a master trait in the Tactic’s line that converts a random condition to a boon and that condition needs to be vulnerability. The warhorn also has a 20 second cooldown 16 when traited. It’s counter intuitive to wait for a specific condition and then hope that rng converts vulnerability into protection.
PVT gear also puts you on the low end of the damage spectrum a place where warriors cannot afford to be. Clerics is a much better choice to supplement going deep into tactics and defense. Running the PvE shouts even in WvW is a very bad idea and severly gimping yourself and the people around you. The healing from the Grandmaster Tactic Vigorous Shouts is too small even in clerics gear which it seems you don’t even run.
With PVT gear who cares that you have 100% fury uptime you do such pitiful damage the Fury boon has no significance in the build.
I don’t think you’ve tried many builds if you still tout a shout build for wvw 10 months after release of this game.
Here’s a decent small group/zerg hammer build that doesn’t suck. It works the best with at least 2 phantasm mesmers and a bunker ele.
I personally don’t like the hammer playstyle but my intention when entering this thread was to help the OP get a build posted since Milkzz touted multiple viable builds and failed to deliver.
I only see that funky pvt gear shout build you posted.