so do other classes that have access to protection function too much like a guardian as well? /facepalm E.a.D.F.
slow, bland, needs to be chained together and predictable. sounds about right.
Highly probable the OP is a play tester for Arenanet.
giving warriors protection wouldn’t make guardians obsolete. That’s such a garbage argument. E.a.D.F.
I think depth and build diversity went out the window when they introduced the tiered trait system.
shouts with healing power not very good. Running inspring banners with banner of defense in a cc type build with 15 in defense for dogged march semi decent for wvw.
Ever heard of a boon called protection?
Never seen a bunker ele or guardian in wvw before?
People run mending still? I thought it was decided 6 months ago that the heal was too small compared to healing surge and the condi removal was negligible at best.
Really like to see this thread stay at the top of the warrior forum for instructional purposes.
This is what it’s like being a warrior in guildwars 2 come onto the forums express your concerns try to explain to people why you don’t see many warriors in decent tpvp teams and try to guide the community towards decent changes for the overall health of the game and then this happens.
A person who knows absolutely nothing comes in and posts videos from before the game was actually released to the public trying to to deter this class from getting decent changes.
Classic
Best thief logic I’ve ever read on the forums
Shout healing is good group support? Did they delete Elementalists and Guardians this patch as well?
So in soldier’s gear you would be getting a lil over a thousand health per shout? Sounds terrible.
ohh boy you just dropped the you can have high armor arguement.
I don’t want to reply to your post because it’s bad but those things don’t actually matter a whole heck of alot in the current meta. Almost all warriors run balanced stance Endure Pain and either Bull’s Charge or Bola’s or Frenzy. Signet of Stamina sucks we have no passive condi removal so we don’t get good returns from the endurance regen and the condi wipe is terrible because the classes that will own you with condi’s will stack it back immendiately. So you get bad returns from Signet of Stamina.
Maybe people just don’t understand what it means to have sustain in this game?
Our interrupts are on weaponsets that have hard times actually connecting or they fight with the required utility slots. Alot of the warrior and it’s gameplay is counter intuitive.
While having these changes are nice they are not game changing in the least.
I along with people that still actually play warrior appreciate seeing ppl not in the know get their panties in a bunch over nothing but this is getting a lil ridiculous.
btw you will take condi damage with endure pain active and shield block.
Holy crap did this guy just seriously link a beta video? That first vid I’m 100% sure was from back in the betas when weapon swap sigils didn’t have internal cooldowns right?
I’m wondering do you think there’s anything wrong with basing a build around one ability that has the damage to take most players from 100% to at least 25% and sometimes even to the downed state?
ahhh now thieves can feel the pain of the warrior longbow gj arenanet.
patch just went live start dling foolios
maybe they changed it and didn’t include in patch notes?
If I’m not mistaken wow was the 1st mmo?
The King is dead!!!
Long live the King!!!
you mean frenzy not endure pain right? Unless I’m reading it wrong
really? You’ve never used the greatsword for it’s disengage potential? Seriously? Are you being sarcastic?
They could of probably just left that trait empty and we would see the same impact.
lol there are guardians that get pressured from burning and the longbow 1 skill? I want to fight those guardians point them out to me please!!!
I think these these weird opinions are from people that don’t really play spvp or wvw.
If anything you have to give them credit for blindly defending their class.
so are you guys quitting the game or rerolling to another class?
I want to send you a picture so bad right now
Double axe and longbow for DE farming or events is really good with adrenaline gain traits. Doesn’t get much easier than that for lvling.
I think it makes just as much sense in wvw as it does in spvp. Might not go far enough in wvw.
so Ele’s should get more viable specs after having one of the most dominating specs in this game for the past 5 months? Makes sense to me Arenanet please get on this immediately.
There must be some wierd ele specs out there because when I run greatsword/mainhand sword and bull’s charge I can never keep the ele locked down long enough to do any damage to them. I probably suck though.
ewww you brought up shake it off. lol
lol I’ve said that so many times
“tried to make it work”
lol imagine if they actually give warriors anything meaningful in the years to come lol.
This community is pretty up in arms at the slightest change imagine if something like that went through there would be a major kittenstorm on the forums lol. Ppl just don’t like warriors in this game. But don’t seem to have a problem with guardians thieves and mesmers for some reason.
lemongrass/melandru is 70% condition reduction. It’s used in wvw not spvp. Dogged march is only movement condition’s so even if you were to run it in spvp with melandru which ppl won’t you will still be vulnerable to damage conditions unlike wvw.
Also, in WvW, the warrior has some of the best combat mobility, best sustain, best team fight support, best spike damage, mulitple ways to disengages, aoe instant rez, aoe cleanses and heals.
All of the warrior’s mobility skills are effected by cripple and chill. If you want great mobility you have to run greatsword, main hand sword and bull’s charge.
The warrior has no way to sustain itself in combat.
Warrior’s are absolutely weakest when presented with a team fight.
Warrior’s spike damage is horrible. Long animations that have been nerfed so hard since the beta that you have to run every piece of zerker gear/damage boosting utilities that you are absolutely worthless if your opponent understands what dodge is.
Warrior’s do not have an instant rez. Battle Standard takes 2 seconds to cast and the range is only 600 with a diameter of 600 as well. It will not rez a downed player if that player has the condition poison on him/her because it is not a rez it is a heal type ability.
Warriors have bad heals and condi removal from shout specs this has been general knowledge for the past 8 months. Even when wearing healing power shout healing is too small. The condi removal requires you to run a specific rune set and all 3 utility slots filled with pve type utilities that are quite bad.
I understand you think these Ele changes are game breaking but I ask you to have a heart when you try to compare things to a warrior one of the worst classes in the game for the past 8 months. I know you’re mentioning wvw but the warrior only gets worse outside of spvp not better. It’s not like warriors are facing different classes alot of classes have wvw specs that are actually stronger than their spvp ones which only makes it harder for the warrior.
When you watch the state of the game video they didn’t even know that main hand sword’s burst skill didn’t return endurance on use with the strength lines 15 point minor trait because it’s bugged.
It’s pretty obvious no one at Arenanet really has a grasp on how the classes are actually playing out in the pvp aspect of the game or wvw. If they did we would of seen vast improvements to the warrior’s ability to stay in fights by this point in the game’s life.
Maybe with the spectator mode they can actually watch decent teams play their game and make changes according to players that have a decent understanding of game mechanics.
It makes me wonder from just browsing through the forums with all the bad advice people post that maybe Arenanet has been misled by these people. I think these forums are more of a hindrance than a help.
Also build diversity is terrible in this game I would like to see spvp die if we could get rid of the terrible tiered trait system. Most grandmaster traits are no better than the ones in the adept/master tier and the grandmaster ones need to be able to be placed in the adept slots for different builds to actually function.
lol the general consensus from the warrior community towards that wvw video was that the warrior was terrible and his aoe bomb group did all the work for him while he just ran around like a chicken with it’s head chopped off. And that was like 7 months ago.
I guess it’s not much better than a staff guardian running in a zerg spamming staff 1 though so I guess this sub forum would actually think it’s effective when it’s not.
People played glass eles?
so we only have another 8 months to go? or sooner? or longer?
vigor is only good on classes with tons of passive condition removal
Caed would you model your underwear for me?
Don’t worry guys adrenaline gain is so fubar who cares about the burst mechanic anyways.
I don’t think it’s written very well
How does distracting strikes give you a third interrupt on shield?
I don’t think Brawn was mentioned
would be pretty funny if they gave RTL the range of the warrior shield bash skill.