Guild Wars 2

MiLkZz.4789:

AlBundy.7851:

I just want to see the viable builds you mentioned in the first paragraph of your 1st post since you didn’t post them there.

Still waiting for those builds.

I gave you those builds, if you don’t dissect my post, I am going to assume you got nothing on me. Which I already did actually. But as I said before, to another one that didn’t want to point me at my wrongs, enjoy dieing <3.

But you only posted one build? AmI missing something? I’ll go back and reread everything just to be sure.

I just want to see the viable builds you mentioned in the first paragraph of your 1st post since you didn’t post them there.

Still waiting for those builds.

Just one shout build? You said there were a few viable builds in your first post does few mean only one?

I don’t know about other people but I would appreciate it if you used a decent build site like http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/ if you don’t mind.

Post the viable builds you mention in your first paragraph please. After that I will dissect your post.

MiLkZz.4789:

Warrior can bunker really well. So good even that you can completely ignore 2 thiefs attacking you. They can clean of tons of conditions and heal their team for a decent amount. Only problem is, there are only a few builds vailable to do this. And you got to be a good player. Timing your shouts and warhorn skills really well to get the best benefit out of it. You can have a pretty good protection and regen uptime with if it if you do it well.

And your damage will still be high enough to not be ignored. Full PVT still gives a lot of power and you got 100% fury uptime. Combine it with the right food and you still be able to dish out enough damage to kill your enemies. So yea, because warrior hits like a truck, you can go full defensive.

Never ever go full zerker in WvW, those are laughable warriors. People see them as walking loot bags. Bunker is the way. And believe me, I tried all build. I have full exotic armor sets on my warrior, all weapons in many different stats and a great deal of exotic and ascended jewelery. I am nearing the 100 exotics mark now ^^.

Even though everything you said is wrong, would you please post the few viable builds you mention in your first paragraph.

you guys could of always let the thread die instead of looking completely ayenul

This thread needs more Wave of Wrath

It’s pretty on-topic. I wanted to generate discussion that looked into new and viable tPvP builds besides Glass GS, and that’s exactly what’s happening.

You’re joking right?

sure wish there were moderators on these forums that would delete posts or lock threads that don’t stay on the topic.

I offer as much advice as I possibly can, and it’s consistently panned by people who insist that Warriors are useless. The only thing I can’t do is post full builds, because they’re sort of privy to our guild’s meta.

fml. Just don’t just don’t. Don’t play this stupid I have a secret build bullcrap.

I forgot to add with the improvements ppl have been making over the last 10 months there’s a few more.

A better adrenaline gain system along with better burst skills, blocking skills that don’t suck(With the blocking skills I don’t know if it’s a bug or it’s was supposed to be a certain way but on blocks that deal damage like mainhand mace, offhand sword, spear every once in a while I get a reduced cooldown instead of the full tooltip cooldown).

There are so many changes that can be made to improve warriors and what have we received over the 10 months nothing but stat increases that don’t address the real problems. And every patch the warrior community is alienated further on the forums to look like we’re getting special treatment when in reality we’ve stayed at the bottom the whole time.

Warriors need a survivability buff, but we’re honestly not as hopelessly bad as our community portrays us. And due to the rampant trolling/doom&gloom/idiocy that pervades this forum (speaking almost entirely to XII here), the devs treat this forum as the community that cried wolf.

This is such a dumb statement ppl are in these forum for the past 10 months pointing out the flaws of this class it’s horrible ways to connect to opponents and deal damage, get to the second heal, offer anything to a team other than some horrible stat buffs, a better downed state that is not so easy to stomp, reduced cast times and cooldowns on abilities and utilities, useful traits that add more depth than a straight damage increase.

And then in every thread people make we have people like this that come in with just meaningless tooltip quoting offering no actual gameplay experience or advice no video proof of them playing in a team with the build against decent players.

I don’t know about other people but I’m tired of scrubs coming into the warrior forums telling us everything is fine warriors have virtually no presence in tpvp, very little in wvw and there’s one ability that makes us op in pve.

Greatsword is used for it’s superior mobility and ability to disengage if used properly.

If you would spend 5 seconds looking at a skill calculator or actually making a warrior you know in game you would see from our weapon skills, utility abilities, traits and downed state warriors are designed to do massive damage in a very short amount of time.

Our ability to last in battle is non existent against semi decent players. A lot of people think you can build a warrior for sustain or prolonged fights but then these people never play outside of pve or a massive zerg ball with 10 guardians supporting the 40 other players running around the map steamrolling one person at a time that doesn’t know how to dive through a zerg.

Btw I can’t tell if your trolling or just really ignorant?

Great terrible player comes in and tells warriors to use battle standard for your boons what a joke.

Kinda like posting on a forum for a game nobody cares about?

That mind wrack statement basically goes into the pantheon or should we say hall of fame of bad along side things like Jon Peter’s 5 sigent warrior spvp photo, JSharp’s cringe worthy facial expressions when bugs are brought to his attention on SoTG, the thief forums over reaction to anything in the game and now Jportell’s mind wrack sucks statement.

You should probably quote the tooltips as well

good gameplay?

you have no idea how hard I laughed at this.

wow you met some players ganking solo ppl in wvw that’s impressive. Warrior’s have aoe swiftness this is really neat. Warrios do well in zergs ohh man this is gold. Thanks a bunch!!!

I just opened 69 chests from grinding pretty hardcore over the past 2 weeks and didn’t get a single weapon ticket. In the 1st few days I grinded 20 additional crates and only got flowers fruits and shells.

I thought if I would of had at least 3 times as many crates from the 1st time I opened the 20 I would at least of got 1 ticket let alone the 3 tickets I would of liked.

I would just like to express my extreme displeasure of the rng crate for weapon skins. This feels like aion all over again but not as brutal. Guildwars 2 has the pve going for it that’s it and when you alienate the majority of the playerbase like this things are going to go down hill.

To me this feels like the horrible practices of Ncsoft at work but it’s a shame it is being done with the Arenanet tag. I would of gladly payed a set amount of money for the skins.

I got past the working against itselves part in wvw by running as much condi duration and using the 1 second dazes and short knockback skills. It didn’t work very well in a mace shield setup and was only slightly better in a sword/shield rifle setup with kick. I even tried it with the rampager elite lol. In the end the rifle setup turned out to be a really good single target bleed stacker.

I actually tried 2 times to make a build that made use of distracting strikes. So ridiculously hard to land the interrupts at key moments lol.

You can do anything in pve but for group type support the guardian will be better especially in stuff like high lvl fractals and any new content anet decides to put out.

you’ll thank us in the end

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For all the people saying use fear me when a thief goes into shadow refuge are you joking?

To get the most out of fear me you have to be running 30 in strength condi duration gear, runes and food and literally have to be right on top of the thief which is literally impossible once the thief chooses to disengage. If what you said actually worked ppl would already be running it.

Delete Warrior
Make Guardian

inb4 links to warrior shout builds

I don’t understand how you think warriors are viable in wvw and by looking at your tag your on blackgate? I just went into every borderlands and eb and every blackgate zerg was a guardian train steamroll no warriors. Every small group was ranger, ele, thief and a few mesmers no warriors.

I think you should quit with the tooltip quoting it’s getting old you really have no idea how warriors are played or have a decent understanding of the class other than reading warrior abilities off a skill calculator.

Necros should really get their death shroud teleport back having to use utilities to gain a lil bit of mobility is really bad. It just goes to show you how bad the beta players were and how anet caved to the demands of zerg hotjoin scrubs to balance the game. Too a point they still do.

And warriors needed their extremely high damage too punish the players that would tunnel them you really only get a few hits at best. The community didn’t like getting gibbed by warriors but the community is ok with thieves and mesmers doing the same.

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lol at people using killshot as an excuse you have to build super glass with no useful utilities on your bars for that kind of damage. The cast is so obvious and slow. If you die to killshot then you must really struggle against every other class in the game or have very bad eyesight.

Since arenanet doesn’t tell the community what they are doing until the patch drops it’s safe to say the most dominating classes will stay dominant and the fringe classes will get a lot of changes that don’t really address the concerns of the community.

All you have to do is look at the past couple patches for say warriors

Two patches ago they got double stats on banners but no changes to the horrible banner skills that replace your weapon skills with inferior abilities. The community never asked for double banner stats.

Last patch signets stats were doubled and no one asked for this. One signet was given the ability to do 3 attacks through an opponents block but it doesn’t let crowd control go through. Everyone thought this would be good but we can’t sacrifice a utility slot for this.

Last patch we also received the “boon hate mechanic” as arenanet put it which is no more than a terrible stat boost as a grandmaster trait. If you take it lessens your overall damage significantly because of the terrible tiered trait system placement that arenanet left warriors in ever since the betas.

Meanwhile as an example thieves got as their “boon hate mechanic” a very spammable secondary skill linked to an evade skill that steals 2 boons that doesn’t have a capped duration on the boons they steal.

I don’t know about other players but warriors have one decent elite skill signet of rage which is lil more than a utility that gives us 30 second long boons(might, fury and swiftness). This elite being our only good access to swiftness and having a class like a thief being able to have a 2/3rds chance of taking that on an opening attack has pretty much destroyed the elite and made the warrior even more obsolete.

Berserker Stance is your friend.

why would you use that when we have signet of fury?

won’t eso have a ridiculous stealth class as well? I haven’t been keeping up on what is happening with it but its hugely a given that all new mmos will have a welfare class like thieves.

Or we just understand the potential of the warrior where others miss that. Unless you live in the Mists and play spvp all the time, I have no dog in that fight. I don’t play spvp.

::Beats head on wall repeatedly:: So you’re coming from a solely wvw pve perspective?

I do also have to agree with Al somewhat… having that sort of damage reduction with that sort of damage output could be quite scary. Other professions can perhaps do that, but no one said that other professions weren’t OP. I don’t think making the warrior OP will help anything though.

Reading that is so ridiculous other classes are op and warrior’s would be scary and op if we got stuff like they have that’s called balance. My god the warrior forums where ppl argue against the warrior class being competitive fml.

Let me get to my point. If you give protection to a warrior in the state they are in now with the superior offense and mobility, you will create a monster of a class that will have options to not only pump out heavy damage but also mitigate it.

You have to be joking right? You’re just messing with me right? That’s a joke right? You’ve never played a warrior come on man lol

before I read that wall you wrote I’d like to try a lil something. I bet what you wrote is a mindless diatribe of tooltip quotes and fairy tale logic peppered with how warrior’s have it so much better than guardians in rainbow land.

75/25 its that I hope not but since I’m playing the actual game I’ll read it in a while. You might even surprise me?

I mean you come in here and bash a person and then you make a complete fool of yourself dropping the warrior’s high health pool argument not taking into effect variables that make guardians way more useful and needed in the game than warriors. Why would warrior’s ever run healing power as well the class is not setup through traits, skills, utilities or even the downed state to make viable builds let alone optimal builds with it.

I’ve done exactly what you just did but rooted my statements in facts and examples of how the game is actually played and when I did this my posts would get deleted. I hope your post stays up so ppl see how foolish you’ve made yourself look.

The warrior lacks damage reduction because of their higher health pool. Giving the warrior access to protection + 18k base health pool would make them more powerful than guardians easily.

When you make blanket generalizations like this and tell other people to stop posting the only person making a fool out of themselves is you.

Hey there Sexy.

Maybe it’s because I actually played a warrior and I understand what you’re talking about or maybe it’s because I’m secretly in love with you like Leo pointed out in the other thread.

I’m sure the reee reees on these forums will point to the second.

this thread is like the energizer bunny.

Do guardians have a bigger health pool than warriors?

Do you have any recordings of you playing the build?

I think it’s totally reasonable to ask for axe skill 5 to reflect projectiles while channeled. Also adding like 5 stacks of might to axe 4 would help drag it out of the realm of worst warrior offhand.

Sanny uses his Greatsword like the majority of warriors as a tool to disengage and gap close but mostly to disengage. HB never really gets factored in unless to punish a person stupid enough to try a rez on a downed ally before dealing with the warrior.

3 seconds still isn’t enough since the actual channel is 3.5 the actual damage of HB comes at the end of the channel the last hit is the most damaging. Most people run a break stun ability or have some sort of stability when stunned as well.

I don’t think Sanny uses HB or staggering blow much in his fights(cause they root him and a immobile warrior is a dead warrior)so that extra second isn’t much of a game changer. He wants as much damage as he can get to go towards his burst opportunities. At least that’s what I gather from reading what he’s wrote.

Is that a recent photo? Cause I almost think I saw that same photo 7 months ago could be paranoid though.

OP are you Jon Peters?