Guild Wars 2

@Saturn, it plays a lot in The Grove (Sylvari main city), almos every time you watch a Vista. Instrumental version, though.

The title is my suggestion I would like to have one of those charr backpacks with my witch costume.

Exploring the map gives you a huge amount of materiales for crafting, armor and/or weapons (that can be rare and exotic in high level areas), experience…

That should be more than enough reward.

The Gift of Exploration is only an optional reward for those looking after a legendary weapon.

Running Citadel of Flame path 1 like crazy, and then changing the tokens for rares and salvaging them for ectos is a good source for money. The rares only cost 30 tokens, so you get 2 rares per run.

What is a pen? >.<

When I party with somebody I always look at the account name, not at the character name, you may want to do the same You know that the account name will not change.

As Ilithis Mithilander said, farming Twilight Arbour is a good way for acquiring some Onyx Lodestones and Cores. Fractals is another reliable source, the chest from the Maw can give you some Lodestones and Cores. You will find out that transmuting cores into lodestones is quite common as well. I’ve never got an Onyx from the Earth Elementals, though, spent hours there with more than 100% MF and without MF, never got one.

Another place that I was lucky with, was farming centaurs in the WvW borderlands, the ones that are on the northeast corner. I also tried Earth Elementals in the Eternal Battlegrounds, but they don’t drop anything at all, so don’t even bother with them.

You may want to spend some gold in the TP as well, place some buy orders for cores, and then transmute then into lodestones if you have the spare money and skill points.

Not a bad idea. I would make a link between precursors and dungeons, just as it was in GW1 (if you want an Obsi Edge, you have to complete the Fissure of Woe). I would just keep the chance for a precursor low to avoid flooding the market, and maybe lowering the granted reward to rares or master works.

I would also include story mode, so you have to complete 4 (5 for Arah) paths to get the key. This would help people leveling alts, or newcomers, to find a party.

It is completely random. It has been reported to drop from chickens in Orr to the Maw’s chest in the Fractals.

Around 1000 hours played, 4600 points, 6 exotics.

1 from Arah p3 first chest (medium boots).
1 from Fractals Maw chest (account bound short bow).
1 from a puzzle chest in LA (light boots or leggins… don’t remember).
3 from loot.

I think I got another 10 exotics from map completion.

On the other hand, I already have like 12 ascended rings just from the Fractals 10 daily.

When I get back home from my work I spend something between 2-5 hours playing. Right now I’m just levelling alts, going through the personal story for all the races, and doing the dailies.

Also, if some friend or guildie needs help with a dungeon or fractal I may jump in. I may go for the dungeon master title soon, just missing 2 paths from Arah, 3 paths from HotW, and 1 path from CoF.

When the patch for the loot is applied I may start farming Orr and CoF path 1 again.

Ursan.7846:

Xaaz.8472:

Yes, so I should sit on everything I have to make 2 legendaries because I’m not lucky. That makes a boatload of sense. The only people that defend this current system already have them via luck or exploits. End of story.

Or actually farms dungeons/Orr to make my money? You know people actually do this. I am one of them.

So anecdotal evidence says you are wrong!

Well, anecdotal evidence says you are wrong as well. Not everybody makes the same money farming, if that was true, every farmer would have a legendary.

In any case, the money is not an issue for me, the precursor I want (Dusk) has a price that I wouldn’t pay even if I had the money.

The unique exotics that you mention can be crafted. Their price is based on the materials required. And you can always go and farm the materials, it is very easy to know where they drop, or farm for money with a goal in mind. Their price is based in something tangible.

Precursors, on the other hand, are a requirement for building a Legendary, and cannot be crafted, nor farmed, nor acquired in any meaningful known way. You can only get them out of pure luck. Their price is based on an assumption of how much it may cost if you wanted to get them from the mystic forge.

So you can assume that the complains are not really caused by the price, but because you cannot really work towards acquiring a precursor. It is just luck or gold, nothing else.

Never from salvaging… but talking about weird loot… I once got 2 badges of honor in Twilight Arbor story mode >.<

Thanks for the summary Vol

I love the idea of making the bosses in AC more Fractal-like. Hopefully this will be just the beggining and they will change others as well (TA tree at the end of each path, CoF path 1…) and make them more interesting.

I also like a lot the “Priority is resolving ways to get precursors” message… I would like to have more news about this before summer.

That means that in total there 4 puzzles in WvWvW, not 3… one for Eternal Battlegrounds, and one for each borderland. The ones for the Borderlands are all the same except for the name, as damny and Safari said, they are named based on the colour of the borderland. You can do all of them regardless of your server colour, just by moving to another borderland.

Also, at least with the servers that I get paired to, if you are only interested in completing the JP without fighting, doing a /wave or /bow to your enemies will help to not being attacked.

Thanks Colin, these are amazing news.

While I was looking for hints for making precursors I made a few translations as well, it may be a good idea to create a new thread for all the New Krytan or Asuran language stuff that we find out there

The pray to Grenth seems to be used a few more tombstones.

In the Cornucopian Fields (Gendarran fields, north of Lion’s Arch), there is a bar with some notes in a column… something like:

Everyone
Stop
Shouting!
——-
if you are
still standing
you need more
dwarven ale
——— and my favorite:
don’t
drink
and
quest

I’m now trying to translate something from the Chamber of Secrets that was written in Asuran, but my screenshot was from too far away and it is quite difficult, I have to go back there and make new screenshots…

LHound.8964:

Let’s assume that everyone has the same Magic Find as it increases the loot quantity/quality

Are you sure that magic find increases the loot quantity? I always thought it was only about the quality.

You should stop assuming that everybody gets the same drop, specially since we now have to confirmation from Colin that the loot tables where not working as intended. If everybody could make 6g/h farming Orr, my server would be full of people with legendaries…

Esplen.3940:

It was a 0.01% chance at the end of a dungeon with difficulty equivalent to Arah Path 4. Meaning you had to do Arah Path 4 ~10,000x to get it.

Sure, some people got it on their first runs, and others ran it more than the allotted 10,000x without getting it at all. Even with that in mind, everyone who saw the weapon was awed and bowed down to the person wielding it in terms of GW dedication, even if they had no idea what they were doing in that game.

Can you name one weapon that was this hard to get?

Esplen.3940:

The precursor is not really that hard if you think about it. Instead of salvaging those rares you get, stick them in the mystic toilet. Instead of NPC’ing those greens you get, stick them in the mystic toilet. Instead of salvaging those exotics you get, stick them in the mystic toilet.

If you don’t like that method, run temples and world bosses, most servers do them daily.

If you don’t like that method, learn to save your money. If you’ve gotten ectos from salvaging your rares, don’t work towards making your infused fractal capacitor shiny, sell them on the TP to get your precursor. That lodestone and core you got from dungeon running? Sell them on the TP. Stop hoarding items and start liquidating your assets.

I’m sorry if you don’t understand, but it is SUPPOSED to be a long, slow, arduous process. If it was simply You put in X hours into this game, here’s a Legendary. it wouldn’t really be that amazing because everyone would get it after a few X hours of the games release.

Except that you don’t get that many rares or exotics. That temples and world bosses are not worth the cost of traveling there (a boss that don’t drop anything and a chest that drops three blues). And the precursor prices are out of reach for many.

And note that I don’t have problems with this being a slow process… as long as it is achievable.

Esplen.3940:

Getting a Legendary, namely a precursor is ACTUALLY RIDICULOUSLY SIMILAR to how Super-Shiny kitten Weapons were obtained in GW1. In fact, it’s a LOT easier in GW2. That’s the main thing that put me off of them. Not that they were shiny and obviously going to be wanted by everyone (I’m a hipster, deal with it.), but they were TOO easy to get.

You haven’t played GW1 by the way you talk, son, so don’t go telling me that I’m out of line here. This is standard Guild Wars achieving from the get-go. You want something nice and shiny? You work for it. It’s hard? Deal with it.

From my experience, getting stuff in GW1 was way easier than in GW2… I got lots of elite armors, including an Obisidian Armor, I got a bazillion different sets of exotic weapons, including a q13 Obsidian Edge and q11 Voltaic Spear. I didn’t need them, they were just a skin, exactly as in GW2, but at least they were achievable… For example, the Obsi Edge, no doubt it was a rare drop… but at least you knew the exact place where it dropped, the chest at the end of the Fissure of Woe.

Using this same weapon as a comparison with a pre-cursor, it took me two weeks to get the Obsi Edge… and at least, you could get unidentified weapons, obsidians and obsi keys from the chest that covered the 1k fee for the entrance. With the pre-cursor, I’m not even trying… What chest should I chase? Claw of Jormag? It is more expensive going there and back than the money you get from the 3 blue items from the chest. Mystic Forge? Just search youtube, pure luck. TP? No thanks, I don’t pay for the luck of others, even if I had the money, the current price of Dusk is totally unfair for me.

So, yeah, back to the topic, how to prevent Dusk price from increasing? It is only possible if people don’t buy it. But that won’t happen… Because there are people that can make that money, call it luck, hardcore farming, or TP playing or whatever… it doesn’t really matter. But because you can, it doesn’t mean that everybody can, so don’t call them lazy, or unskilled….

My guess is that you are trying to level up by repeating the same recipes all the time. What you have to do is use the discovery pannel instead, you level up by discovering new recipes by yourself, instead of repeating the same ones over and over again.

Here you have a link to the official wiki: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Discovery#Discovery

You just need to add an inscription and the two parts of a weapon that you haven’t discovered yet, go to the discovery pane, and mix them all to create a new weapon and receive lots of experience.

I’m in the same situation as the OP. I see some comments here and I just have to laugh… I still haven’t finished the Gift of Magic, though, but I stopped working on it. Comparing the materials you need (T6 mats, lodestones, etc….) with the precursor is a bit unfair. You can get all the materiales by playing the game, even casual gamers can do it, without farming money. But for the precursor there are only three know methods:

Extremely rare drop from some chests or Orr mobs.
Extremely rare drop from the Mystic Forge.
Buy it from the TP.

You can set targets for the materials, because even if they are rare, it is possible to get them, but the precursor is just pure luck. Counting all my guildies and friends, I’ve only seen two precursors (I’m in 5 guilds), one guildie got the colossus from the Karka chest (he doesn’t even want it), and one friend got Dawn on his first try with exotic GS’s in the MF. And most of us have been playing the game since the first day.

Yet some people think that everybody can make 100g every month… well, gues what? That’s not true, not even close to the reality. In the time I spent farming money for Dusk, I’ve been able to make 40g (2 weeks only farming my kitten off, Orr+CoF path 1), and the buy orders increased in 80-90g. Dusk has a price now that I wouldn’t pay even if I had the money.

As the OP, I’m also waiting for the scavenger hunt. I’m still playing the game, is really fun and I’m levelling other characters now and also going for the Dungeon Master title, only 6 paths left

Eventually we will get the scavenger hunt for precursors. Just wait for it. I still hope to find a hint somewhere for a recipe with higher chances to produce a precursor >.< I even started translating messages that I find around writen in new krytan

@Account Actually that would be an excellent idea. The feeling when you get a rare or an exotic is one of the best things in the game… I even started making screenshots when I get an exotic!

Just two things to I think may be important here:

1- Play with a guild or a group that you trust. So if you fail for some reason you can discuss about it and try different things, or find out what went wrong without people freaking out and leaving the party.
2- Ascalonian Catacombs is an amazing place for learning the basics. In Story mode you can practice with lots of different mechanics and learn how to work with the environment. In Explorable mode you have some excelent bosses that will teach you how to effectively dodge attacks (Kohler), learn about attack animations (nichguls, final bosses) and strategies (defend X place, protect X NPC). This will be useful for all the other dungeons.

Rorschach test? :p

I don’t see anything special there >.<

You will get a mini Zommoros, and it will go stealing all your loot.

At the beginning I wanted to have Eternity, but that’s too much effort for me, so now I’m going just for Twilight. I got almost all the gifts except for Gift of Magic, I’m not actively working on it, though, just waiting for the scavenger hunt and throwing some GS to the mystic forge from time to time.

Vol.5241:

Syeria.4812:

Essence Snow.3194:

Esplen.3940:

Essence Snow.3194:

Mika.9815:

Masterpyro.4310:

of course they screwed that when they made them sellable

Getting the ~2000 gold is still a major achievement, in one way or another.

Which is no where remotely close to gaining everything via play. It’s completely out of kilter.

In the past month, I’ve looted 820g from the TP with constant sales of 2 items (no flipping, simply a twist on core conversion).

2000 gold is not a likely amount that you’re going to see at once, but you’ll get there.

Precisely my point…gaining gold via the tp vs gaining gold/items via gameplay

I don’t know. I know a few people who have made several hundred gold without “playing the TP.” If you toss in an extremely lucky Dusk drop or two, you’re up to 2k pretty quick. I know I’ve made around 50g in about the past 2 weeks not counting any flipping or investing, and that’s without doing more than 1-2 fractals and maybe 5 or so dungeons. If I were playing more aggressively in an attempt to get money, I’d probably have made 150g-200g in the past 2 weeks. That’s pace for 5-7 months to make 2000g.

It’s a common excuse from casual players that you can only make money from the TP. You can make 4g/h doing shelt/pen runs. While investing in the TP accounted for some of the progress for my legendaries, it’s probably no more than 20% of the total funds.

Vol, do you mind sharing your trick for making 4g/h doing shelt/pen runs? If that was possible, I would be doing 400 gold every month. I can’t even fill in my inventory in 1 hour of shelt/pen…

I know the feeling bro… you know this typical warrior that you have to carry on through the dungeon, that goes full berserker (in attitude, not in build) and gets headshoted all the time… and then gets Dawn on his first try with 4 exotics? Well, I’ll keep playing, though :p I don’t care that much about what the others got >.<

BTW, I heard a rumor that you will get precursors with your breakfast cereals…

In my opinion Magic Find is only useful for events with lots of mobs spawning all the time. In dungeons there are just a few mobs and they are harder to kill, so you have less chances for good loot.

Also, magic find is for finding magic objects, not just rare and exotic gear… blue and green items are magic objects as well…

Well, I tried other MMO’s before, but to be honest, I never liked them. The first one I really liked was GW1, but it was a CORPG, not a MMORPG… and now GW2. So for me, other MMO’s were dead even before GW2 :p I played them because my friends where there, but I didn’t really enjoy them.

Well, it has been like this forever, and not just for GW2, but for almost anything…

People who enjoy the game are playing the game, and not wasting time on forums. You can find people complaining about anything on the Internet, but you will hardly find people talking about the good stuff… because they don’t need to waste their time doing so.

Also, in this particular forum, you will see that it is always the same people complaining, and for a game with 3 million copies sold, the number of fanboys/haters will be obviously enormous…

Yes, you can use different characters. The Gifts are account bound.

Gold sellers are not rising the precursor prices. Buyers paying them are rising it.

Out of curiosity… the “secret” area at the end of Ascalonian Catacombs paths 1 and 3… is that a JP or is this something that was left there???

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/6805/gw013z.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/8276/gw015w.jpg

Largos
Tengu
Not sure about the third… maybe some kind of descendants of Glint, a draconic race that cannot be controlled by the elder dragons.

Josh Foreman.8250:

Apolyon.6937:

And even if it is not a JP, the labyrinth in Flame Temple Tombs in Diessa Plateau is a very good one.

Uh… I made Diessa Plateau and I don’t know what you’re referring to. Is it new content?

In Diessa there is a portal in “Incendio Templum” that transfers you to an area under the “Flame Temple Tombs”. There you have to fight a few Charr and solve some puzzles, like using a statue’s head as a bullet, or using bubbles for turning off some gargoyle-like flame throwers under water… At the end there is a Charr boss with his chest

This is not a jumping puzzle, is more like a mini dungeon, but all the small puzzles inside make it a great experience Meeting there with random people and trying to figure out how to progress was great.

I don’t think there is anything like that. This 5% tax is the risk you are willing to pay to get a better profit.

The Clock Tower is my favorite. I got stuck at the point where you had to jump down, until I saw somebody jumping there and followed him. I got incredibly good at completing it.

From the open world I haven’t found all of them yet, but my favorites are Weyandt’s Revenge, Loreclaw Expanse, The Hidden Garden and Fawcett’s Bounty.

And even if it is not a JP, the labyrinth in Flame Temple Tombs in Diessa Plateau is a very good one.

+1

I love this kind of stuff.

I think this is a very good post and agree with almost everything. Hopefully the scavenger hunt may be the solution that we are waiting for.

@OZtheWiZARD I do agree with you that Precursor price is fair, because there are people buying them. However assuming that because you can make 500 gold in two weeks this would be achievable by everyone is kind of a distorted idea of the reality. Not everybody enjoys playing the TP.

I found this particulary interesting:
“I am a casual player, hate grinding and I prefer to enjoy and play the game, rather than force myself to focus on one task or goal and do just that. "

I hardly believe that you can make 500 gold in two weeks by just enjoying and playing the game.

If you look at this from the point of view of the people who do enjoy and play the game, how much time do you think they need to gather 500g? And how much do you think precursor prices will increase in that time?

I personally don’t care about the price of the precursor, because I will not buy it from the TP, I just don’t like paying for the luck of others.

My progres:

1. Which legendary are you going for?
Twilight (Actually Eternity, but I gave up on it, and Twilight is enough now…)
2. Do you have any gifts? If so, which one?
Gift of Mastery.
Gift of Might.
Gift of Metal.
Gift of Darkness. (Endless onyx core transmutation)
3. Which gift are you working on? And how far have you come on it?
I’m going for Dusk now, trying my luck with the mystic forge. So far 20 rares and 4 exos, and I got an Ebonblade.
For the Gift of Fortune I need some ectos and T6 materiales for the Gift of Magic. As per my tracker, I completed 71.58% of the gift
For the Gift of Twilight I need 96 Icy Runestones. I leave this one for the end.
4. Addition information you want us to know, maybe a picture.
I accept donations. I’m starting to feel a bit frustrated for my lack of ability for making money >.<

It all depends on how fast do you want to get them. If you want to get 100 lodestones in 1 week, then you are doomed. Remember that legendaries were supposed to be achievable in the long term. For me it was 5 months of playing, with four other people helping me, so five people, 5 months, 100 onyx lodestones. Actually most of them where onyx cores that I transmuted into lodestones. Every once in a while I spent some gold in the TP to buy more cores.

Hi, I’m on Baruch’s Bay, and I’m in your same situation. At what time are you usually connected? Since I’m Spanish we may have different schedules on week days, but we may play together on weekends.

From my point of view, you don’t even need money. I saved everything for a legendary, and I have my main with 2 exotic armor sets (karma + dungeon tokens). It’s true that I spent some money on leveling my crafting skills, but I had more than enough with karma armor or drops. Actually, I only had issues with my alts, because I was speeding their leveling and jumping to higher level areas all the time.

Also, exploring maps is a great resource for getting money and materials.

Hi there, I also want those 2000 shinies… but I just want them for buying a Dusk and the other things I need for Twilight. In compensation I would let you get a screenshot with me and my Twilight At least I’m being honest here

As far as we know, those “exploiters” just used a MF recipe that had a higher chance to produce a a precursor, and with the lack of knowledge about precursors it looked like a valid way for producing precursors. So I wouldn’t categorize them as exploiters, or at least I will have them in a different category than those who abused the snow flake recipe. Regarding the precursors produced this way, I have mixed feelings about this… If they are sold, the price drops… if the are not sold, the price increases, but this will happen anyway, since they are highly demanded items. Just look at the buy orders.

Actually, the fact that there are specific recipes for the MF may be a hint that there may be some recipes with higher chance of producing a precursor but nobody have found them yet (or found but not made public). I really hope that this is the case.

With botters, I don’t really now about the technical details, I’ve seen them myself, and it is pretty easy to spot them by observation. There were some massive bans in the past, and I’m pretty sure that ANet will keep banning them.

Also, I’ll use this thread to share my thoughts about the so mentioned market manipulators. I don’t play the TP myself, but I have a bit of knowledge of economics, and I’m pretty sure that for effectively manipulating a market, you need to keep the prices going up and down all the time. If the prices are always up, you cannot buy cheap, thus you cannot really make a profit from it. It is true that you may find some gaps in the prices that allows for a hugh profit in shor time, for example if you find an item with sell orders under 100 gold, and then the next order is for 300 gold, then you can take a risk here and buy them and resell them, but then there may be hundreds or people waiting for this price increase and then undercut you, so there is always some risk involved.