Guild Wars 2

Nice guide! Thanks for going into such great detail! Very well explained!

Eurantien.4632:

Alright, wasn’t too sure if it was all just for funsies or not. I did get called out as one of the forum rangers people wanted to “beat up”.

Yeah, totally for funsies. Good luck on your term, also. Have a go at the king, we all might learn something. My LB prowess has already improved from practicing with ItIsFinished. It’s a nice way to meet peeps as well.

snow.8097:

what gains the winner? All arguments and balance idea are more valid?
for me just a lil tourney to push some rangers “e-moa”

Perhaps the question is stated unfairly? I think the friendly little tourney stands to gain more than only the winner. As proof, I would submit I leaned some great longbow techniques and strategies from ItIsFinished, and I lost the fight. He used 2 strategies I’ve never encountered before and is waay better with the bow than anyone I’ve encountered in PvP.

In addition, those who don’t partake can have a look at what other active Rangers are using and maybe get some new ideas, since participants post their builds.

Chokolata.1870:

Every weapon has something that helps the pet close in.

Longbow- swiftness on 3, KD on 4 and cripple on 5
GS-cripple on 4 and stun on 5
Sword-auto attack cripple
Axe-chill on 3
SB-cripple on 4 and stun on 5
dagger-cripple on 5
Warhorn-swiftness on 5

Also against very evasive classes like mesmers or thieves, better use spiders

Shhh… Don’t tell them THAT!

The description on the main page says rangers are unparalleled archers… What? It’s true now?

ThaOwner.7560:

its glass vs glass, u can 1 shot them just as easy if not easier

No doubt, if you don’t manage to add a single point of toughness through traits, runes, and amulet, don’t be surprised when you get insta-gibbed by a stray dog after catching GS in the face.

Gabelstabler.6905:

i guess the pic says everything…
gg anet 100/100 points for this update…

Answer me this: how does a pet with about 1700 power critical hit for 5.7k with brutal charge which normally hits for 1.4k?

50% more damage for pet critical: 2.1k
50% more damage for signet of the hunt: 3.1k
25% more for signet of wild 3.9k

In order to hit that hard in PvP, he must have been nearly fully might stacked, as well. Even then it seems fishy. Make sure to remember to equip a jewel and runes when playing PvP, or you won’t have any stats. You also need to equip your traits or you will be very weak.

Nice to meet you in game, as well! Hats off on excellent fights. Your timing is impeccable.

Here is the build I used: Condi Hybrid

I’ll challenge you to a friendly little duel sometime today if you are free. Love your build. Thanks for posting!

Yeah, and put krait runes on your build with entangle. Very cheap and fine for leveling.

I like celestial the way it is. Very nice for those who like making use of all their skills. There should be a reward for using a balanced approach. Lopsided builds (too much DPS or too much Armour) should end up loosing so a well played balanced build.

The power in lopsided builds is in the surprise of the attacks you do. Hit hard and hide your weaknesses or exploit your opponents lack of understanding.

You can also declare all out war on conditions with Melandru runes… They work better than they look because partial seconds of condition damage are completely negated.

Another way to look at it: A team of 4 experts that can’t suffer a beginner is really a team of 5 beginners. Anyone who is only half decent should be able to carry a beginner or two with minimal effort and loss of time. You’ll spend more time kicking that one beginner and adding a new person than you’ll waste with said beginner…. Unless you are novice.

TheBandicoot.5294:

COnditions need a serious reword, and no, Archon, healing and vitality aren´t the counter for conditions because they have to cover direct damage as well. Conditions would be hard countered if vitality actually reduced condition damage just like toughness reduces direct damage. Would be a great idea indeed. Eitehr that, or we simply need more cleanses. There´s way too few. Toughness itself should be left as is, though.

I can see why you feel that way, because an experienced condition dealer will eventually overpower opponents healing and drain their health pool. While a max toughness build can completely negate an opponents direct damage. Glass cannon and max toughness builds will usually get melted because of their unbalanced approach to combat. The hard counter to condition builds is actually running a balanced build with control skills.

Glass cannon builds have pathetic healing and vitality, so can be condition spiked faster than they can direct damage spike an opponent. Bunker builds invest too much in toughness which is completely wasted against a condition master. Max condition damage builds are risky, because they can be countered with control skills and usually have abysmal condition removal themselves.

Edit: Vitality and healing power are the direct counter to condition damage. The fact that they also take part in negating direct damage is irrelevant as to their effectiveness at negating condition damage.

Yes, they should redo it. If you are a warrior with 3000 or more in toughness, your toon should let out a blood curdling scream and roll around on the ground when set on fire. It would be like a knockdown! :-)

Conditions are the counter to toughness. It is fine the way it is. Healing, vitality, and traits are the counter to conditions.

This could be fun:

Arie Of Cantha
Jade Quarry
Everything

ArchonWing.9480:

Prysin.8542:

which ranger has that?

6 sec from a 60 (48) second CD utility
3 sec from a BM GM trait on a 16 sec CD
2×3 sec possibly from sigil if RNG favors you…. (and if you use that sigil, you are dead)

i repeat – whatever ranger sets out for a xxxx6 2x invuln + QZ utility – you are such a bad scrub you deserve to get rekt. And if the enemy cannot kill you, they deserve to LOSE.

Right. Not referring to this specifically, but when people talk about OP “invincible” builds that just one shot everyone, I throw up a little, because I wonder what would happen to them if they encountered a real ranger build that isn’t just a one trick pony and can sustain themselves while doing sustained damage.

They get destroyed. If you are going to run LB in PvP you are better off with a celestial amulet and a good rune set. Don’t go for the easy max damage build, you will get slaughtered by skilled players. I’ve been trashing the new LB ranger “meta” for the past week with predator’s onslaught, S/T and SB. I am starting to feel bad for teams when they get stuck with one. Try celestial amulet a good rune set. LB has great control and decent damage.

Yeah, I like it where it is for swords and predator’s onslaught.

I am confused about this petless option stuff… In what situation does the pet cause a problem? Running dungeons with beginners who don’t know how the game works? The pet only “gets in the way” when it is told to do something silly. The petless option is to equip a bird and put it on passive. Problem solved.

Prysin’s 00365 build is pretty sweet as well. I tried it (as close as I could get) in PvP and found in very powerful in solo situations. It’s a regen, might stacking, beast master. Kinda sweet. I usually run in Zerg with swords and fire build that is kinda risky in 1v1 situations, so I don’t think that is what you are looking for… But if you run with a hammer warrior or guardian, let me know…

Yeah, this kind of stuff boils my blood as well. Dungeons are, mostly, beginner content. They are designed to get people used to playing on a team, so you will run into quite a few personalities who can’t adjust to teammates abilities or builds and end up kicking and complaining when things don’t work out the way they expect. Take a look at the experience level of your teammates to have an idea what you are in for

Try to join the Jade Quarry server if you can. This server has many old GW1 vets who just enjoy playing and welcome the challenge of playing with all sorts of allies. Rangers are very powerful now (and before) and you can pretty much two man most of the dungeons with a skilled ally. Also, check out Edge of the Mists, WvW, and PvP. Most of the truely skilled players spend their time in these forums and are generally more pleasurable.

+1, Excellent thread mate. I will add one point, being a software guru myself. It is not fair to the developers for players to assume they are randomly adjusting skills and traits without knowledge. I know this sounds odd, because we are all so used to hearing the complaint threads, that we start to believe the evil developers are clueless. The truth is they have access to a wealth of information we don’t have.

They can easily analyze the builds used in all the winning matches on a given night, week, or month as well as all the builds used in loosing matches. Based on the statistics, they will be able to identify anomalies, like 90% of the winning matches involved the use of turret exploding engineers and those players have consistently been winning matches against teams with more experience (higher ranked, etc).

I am sure they combine their findings based on information found in the community forums as well. The end result may appear odd to us at times, because we may not entirely understand what they have found and what they are trying to accomplish. To the OP’s original post, it is important for us to keep our pride in check and make thoughtful posts when we feel something is amiss, and not to jump to conclusions.

Inaccurate QQ threads, based on bruised pride, make it harder for the developers to use the forums to identify the real issues. Thus making the game more imbalanced. It’s kind of like loosing your temper and randomly spraying pee all over the toilet because you believe the new toilet seat has a defect. You will have to fix it anyway, only now you will be dealing with a sticky smelly mess. Good luck finding the squeak…

Not to mince words, but in real life weapons shoot beyond their stated range. Max Range is more about the limit to which the weapon is expected to be reasonably accurate under normal circumstances. The bullets / arrows / bolts can always travel further than the weapon is ranged for.

So it’s as simple as saying arrows and other projectiles will inaccurately and unreliably travel beyond stated range. This is no big deal and much more realistic than CODs (and many other games) idea or range where a shotgun (insert weapon) shoots about 20 yards and then the bullets magically disappear…

Sandrox.9524:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Sandrox.9524:

FrouFrou.4958:

Sounds like you refuse to adapt, you complain because your build has so far worked perfectly against everything else and now that there is one thing that may be able to counter your build.. You call for a nerf. Hurdur.

You are correct!
I call for a nerf cause it dosnt matter which build im on,if a ranger caught you by surprise,you are dead.Even if thief catch you by surprise,you can manage.Against ranger you are helpless.

Everything about this reply is perfect. It shows rangers are “op” against players that refuse to adjust their build and have lousy situational awareness.

Dont insult other ppl while you dont even know what are you talking about.I may have “lousy situational awareness” but you sir no better,cause no one is perfect,and because of that,you will always get spiked by a ranger,no matter how much situational awareness you have.You cant predict a ranger or much to react to a ranger who sit on high places and pick you out,you cant predict a ranger who shoots from stealth,and you defiantly cant predict a ranger sometimes,when you in middle of a fight.So please before insulting ppl on no ground,try keep it civil cause we are adults?(I hope you are).

And fyi,I did changed my builds 3 times to same end.Today I went full yolo with all the reflects memser have,and still got bursted from tiem to time.You can blame my “lousy situational awareness” but you can also blame the fact that RF is way too strong for a 6s cd attack.

I main ranger as well and also tried my favorite LB/GS build for several hours in PvP to get a feel for it (and learn how to squash it). I know, I am mean, but the only thing I enjoy more than killing zerker thieves, is killing zerker rangers. You need to get on top of them and hammer them relentlessly for about 2.5s.

I have been using a power/condi hybrid to rid myself of these pests, and you can as well. Double up on sigils of geomancy and hydromancy. Swap places with clone, blink to them or go invisible and walk up to them. Weapon swap and beat the snot out of them. As a Mesmer, you also have great access to confusion. Just imagine what 5 stacks of this would do to rapid fire…

Eh? Pet-less option? No way! That would totally ruin the class. The pets have great synergy with the weapon skills and utilities a ranger has.

If you feel this way, you really should trait something like 0-0-4-4-6 and turn pet auto attack off for a while—to force yourself to use and control the pet. Try it with all of them. Then go back to playing how you like. Trust me, you’ll enjoy the class much more. After a while you’ll be ordering your pet all over the place—and attacking—without a second thought. It’s really quite fun.

If you really hate the pet, the warrior class has a very similar feel and you don’t need the pet. Win win. Roll a warrior.

Eurantien.4632:

PvE is sword then.

Agreed. I usually find myself with both swords and lightning reflexes in PvE, just to move around faster. zip zip all over the place. Amost as fast as a football player warrior.

I honestly find the GS more useful with the standard Max Power 10 Longbow build in PvP. Primarily because I can use it on point more effectively. I actually use it just as much as the Longbow, so would not call it a secondary. Put Sigil of Hydromancy on it to help with landing Hilt Bash. You will usually be fighting on point with an ally (Friendly neighborhood Guardian) so you can land the surprise Maul in the back quite often.

The real question about the choice of the “other” weapon set is: “How do you plan on surviving, when your opponent gets in your face?” Good opponents will get up to you, regardless of your kiting ability. The 1H sword will save you through evades, while GS will more or less save you by bashing the snot out of them.

I find it much more difficult to kill LB rangers when they pull the ole’ GS on me. The ones who use Sword/X seem to die much faster when I get to them. It is hard to tell though, with so many rangers (of all levels) running around nowadays. I would seriously urge you to spend more time in GS when running the two weapons. Pull out LB for the quick spike. Fight on point as much as you can.

Basically what Sebrent said. Certain Mesmer builds are very weak to main hand axe, of all weapons. Just keep popping the clones like zits and stay away from them (if they confuse, bleed, hurt you when they die). This will make it easier to find and call target on the real one.

If you have difficulty locating the real one, watch the HP of the clones as your axe bounces around. The real one will loose health slower than clones, and they don’t evade while he might do something silly to expose himself.

That being said, certain Mesmer builds will chew you up and spit you out if you run around with MH axe… If you are having difficulty with enemy stealth, bring sick em’ along. Don’t leave home without a blood thirsty pet, ya know? Seriously, it will reveal them long enough for you to pound them into oblivion, often.

Fluffball.8307:

Warlord.9074:

I love it how rangers think that they are now beating people using skill. All you are doing is using range posistioning and pushing a button. And Pew Pewing. Ranger is one of the easyest easy classes to play. I never understood while so many rangers were bad at it.

I posted in another thread, if anyone actually believes RF is a win button, I’m happy to duel you using my straight out of the box melee ranger build. I won’t change anything to specifically counter a LB, I won’t even take offhand axe. If I lose, it will be because I got outplayed over an extended time, not because you RF win buttoned me. I’ve been drinking and I’m still pretty confident based on the garbage RF spam I’ve been seeing for the past 2 days.

Wholeheartedly agree… And I’ve seen you with swords… :-) I am looking forward to facing LB rangers with conditions in PvP, as well.

Warlord.9074:

I love it how rangers think that they are now beating people using skill. All you are doing is using range posistioning and pushing a button. And Pew Pewing. Ranger is one of the easyest easy classes to play. I never understood while so many rangers were bad at it.

Ha ha, if you think longbow makes it easy to kill opponents, wait till you encounter a good Melle ranger. Hint: if you stand still and mash your keys (warrior, thief) you die. I like the idea of other classes having to dodge our attacks once in a while. The changes to ranger GS are just as lethal if not properly negated.

Not really, after running full zerker in WvW for a few hours it is pretty clear our damage output is very high. I don’t have any numbers, but a lot of bewildered bags to show for it… Pretty sure the frosty nerf was intentional, much like FGS alterations.

ANet wants people to use dungeons to learn team play, I think. Speed running dungeons is fine, but standing against walls and bursting things down too fast is too easy and doesn’t do much to teach team play. I think they are trying to make it so even the best groups will have to deal with dungeon boss mechanics, at least once, before squashing ‘em. Not really a big change. It’s not like we are going to be totally outclasses by anything at this point.

Yeah, I was winning most encounters before the update (except against those kitty kat turret engies). It’s nice of ANet to give us a little boost, however. We have nice options now. I hope they balance things out by buffing other class abilities instead of nerf batting us, because I love the changes.

Lazze.9870:

Archon.6480:

Only use it in a few places TBH. No big loss. Put on flame trap or quickening zephyr for the time being.

I’m not gonna jump the bandwagon and say it’s a “legit drama”, but the skill doesn’t work as intended. That alone is a good enough reason to make Anet aware. Wether you think losing a 7 % damage buff is a loss or not doesn’t matter.

I’m pretty sure warriors wouldn’t be all like “whatever” if the same thing happened to their banners.

Excellent response. I actually agree with you completely on this point. Spirits are like banners that can take damage, so should offer a noticeable advantage. +7% damage increase on traited frosty is completely reasonable. I stopped using spirits in PvP because I noticed an untraited flame trap has the potential to put out significantly more burning damage (via leap finished fire aura) than sun spirit does with aggravating cool down.

The drama in regards to dungeons is a bit much for me is all. I usually only pull it out when I find myself in zerk group with pros. It did make things go a little faster, I guess. Hard to tell when everything melts in seconds in all honesty. Boss dies in 20s vs 18s, does not mean much to many of us.

Dahkeus.8243:

Fluffball.8307:

Dahkeus.8243:

Fluffball.8307:

Dahkeus.8243:

If this changes the GS to be the best meta weapon, I’ll be very happy.

The 1h attack is absolute #1 reason I hate playing a ranger in dungeons.

?? It’s a nerf to the class as a whole, nothing to do with GS. The biggest reason we were taken in dungeons is now completely obliterated, so no one will accept you whatever weapon you use.

J Eberle.9312:

Goodbye ranger. Fare thee well.

Oh the drama…lol

P.s. If this is something you honestly care about, open a ticket. The more tickets received, the more likely it is to be fixed.

It’s legit drama. If you don’t care about this nerf, you weren’t running FS and didn’t really care that much about fast dungeon runs, so of course you don’t see the massive nerf to the profession.

If your favorite profession in a video game becoming less popular for dungeons is “legit drama” to you, then we lead very different lives…

Yeah, my thoughts. We must acknowledge there is a certain crowd that thinks GW2 revolves around glitching speed running low level dungeon content to make gold, or something. Most people find that about as exciting as farming resources all day (which is more effective), but who are we to point out we don’t really care about frost spirit or dungeon speed runs. Only use it in a few places TBH. No big loss. Put on flame trap or quickening zephyr for the time being.

Longbow and GS work well with power, precision, ferocity stats. When you get to 80 you can play with condition stats for fun. Good luck!

Flame trap and quickening zephyr are great alternatives and a little more fun than frosty in many cases. That being said, frosty really made sense to use in a few fights, this coming from someone who loathes the whole stand in a corner mechanic. I am secretly hoping they nerf-bat warrior banners, as well. :-)

Thanks for the video! Excellent gameplay and fantastic build!

J Eberle.9312:

Archon.6480:

You don’t know math or the game better than ANet. Glad we got that settled!

lol what
Like what are you even talking about.

lol, huh. Like I don’t know dude, why don’t you read the thread man! Far out!

Fluffball.8307:

Archon.6480:

I love this. :-) Well, ANet is confused like me, and you know more… Ha! OK.

Rangers aren’t currently used at all in PvP and do less damage even using optimal builds in PvE. Using your ideas rangers are completely and utterly unusable in PvE. So ya, the people that play the game a lot know a lot more about it than ANet. And you have been mathematically proven to have not the slightest idea what you’re talking about.

My only problem with you is you try to defy math. Your whacky builds and armor combos do mathematically less damage and yet you continue to claim otherwise.

Rangers are just fine in PvP. My builds do just fine in all forms of PvE, PvP, and WvW. You don’t know math or the game better than ANet. Glad we got that settled!

Fluffball.8307:

Archon.6480:

Disclaimer: 25 stacks of might, warrior banners and trait, 25 stacks of vulnerability and frosty combined are not normal circumstances

Those are the assumed situations for dungeon calcs because it’s extremely rare they aren’t present. Even dekeys dungeon calc takes in to account vulnerability on a boss with defiant (or whatever that buff is called that reduces vuln.)

At any rate it’s completely irrelevant. Sword does more damage, and it does it faster. Any buff you apply to sword will have a cumulatively bigger affect to the sword because of the attack speed. Axe gets worse and worse the more allies you have.

At zero buffs, sword still hits harder as well as faster.

Edit: And apparently this post made Archon delete his nonsensical retort.

Um, no I didn’t include the quotes right genius.

Fluffball.8307:

If you think sword auto is meh without might and quickness, axe auto is complete garbage, since it does way less damage.

To Zeft’s point though, axe finds its use in duels, due to the bleed, chill and weakness. The auto is useless in any format. I’m not even convinced the huge might buff coming up will change that at all, especially since it will barely trigger in duels. Anet seems confused about what the weapon is supposed to do.

I love this. :-) Well, ANet is confused like me, and you know more… Ha! OK.

Toughness counters direct damage only.

Vitality counters both condition and direct damage.

Healing Power counters both condition and direct damage.

There is a problem, though. Healing power and vitality will always counter condition damage proportionally but will be ineffective against direct damage when paired with low toughness. High vitality and low toughness will result in a large health pool that looses huge swaths of HP against relatively weak attacks. This will make it difficult to shake off direct damage with healing. So, every point of toughness makes vitality and healing power more effective at countering direct damage.

Rangers have easy access to regeneration, protection, and vigor which gives us flexibility in mitigating damage. Protection lobs off 1/3 the hp damage due to a direct attack. If you go 3 or more deep into wilderness survival, protection gets added to you on dodge roll. Vigor gives dodging, so vitality with this kind of combination becomes more appealing.

When all is said and done, Toughness is a very powerful stat so it’s a good idea to bring some along. My ranger recommendation is for both, but more into vitality. This is, of course, situational and depends on game type and strategy (do you rely on auras, weakness, etc). I hope this clears it up a bit.

Fluffball.8307:

So you’re saying berserker is the most effective PvE armor set and the others are just for screwing around, yes I get that. Go ahead and screw around.

Least effective in a group with beginners. No ability to help allies, which is bad choice. Carrion, celestial, knights, Anything > zerker/sword meta in many scenarios.

Fluffball.8307:

Archon.6480:

I would like to think of myself as the spokesperson for logic. You and so many others are like carpenters who have a toolbox full of hammers, but swear you must use only a single hammer for all jobs. To make matters worse, you flame anyone for suggesting the other tools. Hence, forum stooges. You think you know more than game designers. It’s annoying.

Spreading disinformation? If you can speed up my dungeon run I am all ears, I want another legendary.

OH!: I forgot. The last time this came up I did the same thing. There have been some dungeon clear challenges on the dungeon subforum. If you, Archon, using a non meta carrion build, can win the challenge and beat all the berserkers, I will give you 1200 gold. I will give it to a 3rd party if you don’t trust me.

You are not getting the point:

OP Post: Hey everyone, I just used axe and found it enjoyable and very strong, you should try it sometime!

Forum Stoog Post: Not this again :-(

Berserker/swords is BIS for damage according to ANET, so if you want fastest clear time, or some other stupid human trick (read burst lupi down) in an organized group, go for it. If you use LFG, bring whatever you want.

Getting back to carrion. I have a full set of ascended occam’s, wupwup’s, and zoja’s weapons and gear. I know they can all be used effectively, so you are disingenuous when you ridicule otherwise.

Fluffball.8307:

Archon what exactly are you contributing to anything? Are you like the spokesperson for inefficiency?

I would like to think of myself as the spokesperson for logic. You and so many others are like carpenters who have a toolbox full of hammers, but swear you must use only a single hammer for all jobs. To make matters worse, you flame anyone for suggesting the other tools. Hence, forum stooges. You think you know more than game designers. It’s annoying.

Message to the OP: If you post anything in the forum other than max damage builds (the full zerker, noob build) you will incur the wrath of the Ranger forum stooges which always try to make the following points in their advice:

1. I (insert name here) am an amazing player because I deduced that Berserker does the most damage mathematically (even though devs published this for us)

2. I can beat content in full zerker (so I am awesome, baby) and you obviously cant because you like something that is not full zerker, therefore u are a cripple… With a crutch! And can’t use that full set of ascended berserker gear you have!

3. I will kick you and all my friends will too! Yes, i have friends (blush). And they will kick you because if you don’t play how I want you to, then u are PHIW player and u suk because only I can PHIW without being a PHIW player…. Or something. (pant)

4. I am AWESOME at mathematics but can’t seem to calculate that a 30s fight (with 5 participants) will take 30.5s if you bring a non max damage weapon (mainland axe) into a battle and that will make the whole dungeon run take hours longer! I mean if you bring a “weak” weapon into An easy dungeon it will take hours to finish… Right?

5. You should read my META Ranger thread for beginners…. What’s that? It’s no different than the advanced META? No, that’s your imagination!

6. Did I mention I am awesome, while trying to help you? I sometimes forget to brag about myself.

I agree that 3 and 4 are many times ineffective at melee range (they misfire), but think that is by design. In close range combat, melee should have the severe advantage. Best thing is to use those skills at range, or if your opponent is already bound up in some kind of cc skill. Better yet, just pull out your sword and go to town in an unforgiving manner.

TheLargeUnit.2793:

Run zerk power build if you want to learn how to dodge intelligently.

Or die outta stupidity…

Narkodx.1472:

Silentshoes.1805:

There is no cheese. There is only a playstyle you think is easier than the one you like.

If you think other people’s “easier” builds are cheese, then you should start playing with suboptimal runes and amulets…just to be “non-cheese” to the max.

Eventually you can boast that you play naked, and everyone who uses a powerful rune is “cheese”.

Think about it.

Agreed. I will use the best build for my playstyle 9/10 times. Sometimes you gotta run something funky out of boredom. I am not concerned with what people consider easy or cheesy. I concern myself with trying to win the match!

Agreed. Play to win. Analyze the game mechanics and use them to your advantage to squash your opponents.

Celestial. Because you can use it with any (reasonable) style of play. Pets, Signets, Power, Condition, Hybrid, whatever… All weapons are fair game too.

Full zerker is the, ahem, meta… It’s very good for people who don’t want to get distracted with annoyances like downed allies (they should die already and get outta my way) and the likes.

All joking aside, berserker Armour can be useful, too. I am finding the ascended set better than the exotic—which is monkey feces. I even found one of the new achievements easier with it… Try them both as exotic with ranger runes and the META build to see which you like more in the new area. Try bows, swords, and a mix against giant and pinpal.