Guild Wars 2

Justine.6351:

anduriell.6280:

Eleazar.9478:

Archon.6480:

Kaizoku.1298:

It was a bit overpowered, your attacks cannot be blocked, reflected or destroyed.
Your pets are affected too, there are some pets that deal 6k damage on two skills even if you get LOS’d you could use your pet and longbow #5. Also when you have traited SOTW, you automatically use the skill at 50% hp or something like that I forgot.

Na, it was only semi-useful in LB/GS power build that was rather weak to begin with. No one is complaining because they nerfed an already useless utility. Ranger has 1 effective build and playstyle at the moment. This did not hurt that build, so know one cares.

1 usefull build? What are you smoking. You can literally play any druid build effectively the only one that is weak ATM is condi druid, but for pvp and wvw there isn’t a trait line that I can’t or don’t use.

Also all of our weapons are used I can’t think of a useless ranger weapon they all have a place depending on what you want to do

dude druid has only one possible build for pvp\wvw and another for raiding.
And that is all. Not even a bag loot for pve.

Sometimes i get the impression anet keeps trolling the players because they read the nosense some people write here…

WvW has either shouts or survival. Clearly more than 1 !

PvP has 1. Menders Bunker or Menders Bunker.

DH has some glaring weaknesses in 1v1 matchups. I feel bad for them sometimes. (This from Druid). I also think power warrior should be able to beat down DH. Unblockable attacks and stuns really hurt DH.

Queue up as a class that is completely opposite what you normally play, then swap when there are 16s left on the timer. Something like:

Necro swap to Gerdian
Thief swap to Ele
Ranger swap to Warrior
Gerdian swap to Mesmer

Ya know. Just to punish you allies and opponents for counter-comping. Build Wars 2

You should adapt. Find a class you can play well that pairs with thief and swap to it.

I use Druid and will focus more on support and mobility when 2 thieves are on my team. They have really high damage output so just keep them alive and pick them up when they fall. Be fast, move, move, move. It can be difficult to hold a point with 2 thieves, so the best thing is to try to snowball the enemy team.

My 2 cents…

Red, blue, red, blue, red, red, blue, blue, blue, red, wtf color am I?

:)

Yeah, condi warrior seems to be the most difficult matchup for Druid right now. I think it is a hard counter to Druid. That being said, I am finding I do better when I peel away and poke them from a distance and let the pet mozy on over and bite them. You loose the point but can even up the match by pulling away.

You’ll loose every time in a fair face off on point against anyone with a moderate skill level.

Kaizoku.1298:

It was a bit overpowered, your attacks cannot be blocked, reflected or destroyed.
Your pets are affected too, there are some pets that deal 6k damage on two skills even if you get LOS’d you could use your pet and longbow #5. Also when you have traited SOTW, you automatically use the skill at 50% hp or something like that I forgot.

Na, it was only semi-useful in LB/GS power build that was rather weak to begin with. No one is complaining because they nerfed an already useless utility. Ranger has 1 effective build and playstyle at the moment. This did not hurt that build, so know one cares.

wardspratlin.9107:

in season 1 — you could have 1 low tier and up to 3 more high tier…. so boosting was super common

with duo its not so ez to boost maybe you can a bit but lets not get carried away here lol

You’re nuts. Everyone is doing it.

It’s normal when you are getting farmed by cheaters.

The other team probably had a dual queue with a legendary and smurf bronze player. So their team had a lower rating and you lost. Better luck next time sucka!

:)

The games are no better after 150 games in gold. There is no separation based on skill. T3 gold is as messed up as day 1. No fun.

Maybe they can just shove everyone, their uncle, and pet kitty cat into a gold meat grinder and see how long it takes people to quit PvP, permanently.

Forum bugged, just like skill rating algorithm.

Archon.6480:

Bleh. Skill rating and matchmaking are horribly designed. Most everyone is stuffed into gold in crap matches.

This season was the most boring since the game launched. I lost interest several weeks ago.

Total fail.

Bleh. Skill rating and matchmaking are horribly designed. Most everyone is stuffed into gold in crap matches.

This season was the most boring since the game launched.

Total fail.

Shadow Dragon.1469:

heal bots and bunker teams? serious question….

No, but there is no other option for a Druid. I love using Remorseless Druid but a noob can accidentally get a kill in 1s when using DH, thief, warrior or Mesmer and I need to outplay them for about 20s to get the same result.

Ranger damage builds suck.

I laugh at your pitiful attempts to survive the….wait for it. Bristleback Spikes of DooOOM!

Seriously, man. It’s on a 2s glowing charge. If you can’t evade that you should just uninstall? How on earth do you survive a thief’s assault? Oh wait… I see now. PI is on your list…

Congratulations! That’s impressive. And, you only had to play…… Holey, kitten dragon balls! 577 GAMES!

All joking aside, good job.

Maja.6372:

ah yeah that happened to me too was mid gold suddenly loosing about 18 of 20 games ending in mid silver
no idea why the games were arround 300 mostly
but next day total turn around about 12 wins in a row back in lower gold lol
many games pretty close but some really easy wins in between
losses were in prime time
wins were at saturday morning
but queue times were about the same

It’s funny you should say that. I usually have my best matches Saturday morning. Sunday morning is always a nightmare. Not sure why. I think it might have to do with who is queuing and lag, perhaps.

Wait… Are you saying there is a way to queue on an EU server if you are in NA?

Bio Flame.4276:

Archon.6480:

Well, I can’t agree that there is no skill to the game. Clearly there is.

However, making it possible to target allies with support/defensive buffs would add another dimension of skill. I miss this from GW1.

I agree with you, there is skill in this game.
However, what the OP said is different, read the tittle: GW2 PvP doesn’t require enough skill to play .

Emphasis on enough.

Ah, good point. I should have read that more carefully. I kinda agree with that idea.

Aeolus.3615:

Bio Flame.4276:

Archon.6480:

Well, I can’t agree that there is no skill to the game. Clearly there is.

However, making it possible to target allies with support/defensive buffs would add another dimension of skill. I miss this from GW1.

I agree with you, there is skill in this game.
However, what the OP said is different, read the tittle: GW2 PvP doesn’t require enough skill to play .

Emphasis on enough.

That would make the game to hard for the gw2 playerbase target/audience…. if u guys notice that goes against the gw2 ideal of how it was initially designed, it is a game where players dont need to be good (to be good skirts) at playing game, they took all that made gw1 a very very decent game as an objective to make a game where player just need buildX to be effective most of the time.
This gameplay is here to stay that is what gw2 is about… yeah it sucks…and its ugly to watch.

yeah i miss gw1…gameplay…as well.

How I would love to be able to cast Xinrae’s Weapon on allies.

sephiroth.4217:

Archon.6480:

apharma.3741:

Might want to take it to reddit, there’s already a nice salty thread on there and your post won’t magically disappear like this will in a few hours.

Annabel is one of the best in NA and should be first or second place. If we keep this thread clean and come up with some good ideas how to prevent this, they will keep it open, and might even implement our ideas.

I think he referring to posting names on forums but it’s a top player so it’s allowed, he can even call us plebs too if he wants.

Ah, got ya. Yeah, good point. The names should be blacked out. Lol on your second point. Haha.

Beast.6745:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

this what plagues NA, and ANET will actually reward these people… i wonder if ANET will do what BLIZZ did with Diablo 3 leaderbaord before it ends they banned everyone you used alt account and accuse of Match manipulation.

alt accounting isn’t match manipulation. but having someone lose on purpose for you is

I agree, but it is part of the problem. If we could just find some way of keeping alt accounts out or reach of the top players on the leaderboard, this kind of stuff would not happen. I really think if we forced an account to play a 100 games or so to even be able to get into a legendary level match this would end. Or if we put a cap on placement at say 1500 MMR. Something like this?

apharma.3741:

Might want to take it to reddit, there’s already a nice salty thread on there and your post won’t magically disappear like this will in a few hours.

Annabel is one of the best in NA and should be first or second place. If we keep this thread clean and come up with some good ideas how to prevent this, they will keep it open, and might even implement our ideas.

Annabel.5127:

http://imgur.com/a/r6p79

Yeah, sorry to see that Annabel. I am glad to see you bring this up. I just pulled my brother in from PvP and I kept showing him the leaderboard and telling him you should be in first place. That was a few weeks ago.

I started a thread or two with some, maybe bad, ideas about how to add something to the scoring to push alt accounts out of the running so they can’t be used to manipulate the matches.

Can you think of some ideas of how to do this? You are clearly one of the best and might have a better perspective. The best ideas I could come up with were:

1. Add some kind of account based grind component to keep seldom played accounts out of the running (everyone hated this idea… A lot)
2. A threshold to keep accounts out of platinum/legendary matches (50-100 games played or something)

What do you think?

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

dunno about you but i switch class base on what my team needs… dont care bout your comp

I really think that is a great idea, but there are some situations a counter comp is just too juicy to ignore. For example, if I see two necros and an Ele on opposing team I’ll always swap to Nila’s remorseless Druid. I can’t remember ever loosing a match this way. It’s just way too strong against Necro/Ele composition.

Along the same lines I see enemy teams countering my team with Warriors when the matchmaker sticks another Druid on my team. It’s a great idea, I don’t blame them.

Stand The Wall.6987:

this is a really interesting idea. would fix switching probables.
what if this leads to class/build stacking, due to players not being able accurately counter the enemy comp? doesn’t quite make sense but I’m trying to think of all the ways this could fail.

Yeah, good idea. I was thinking that a two man team could go heavy into conditions, mobility or direct damage to catch opponents off guard. However, that would be extremely risky if other team focused on being well balanced.

Picture trying to gain advantage with 2 necros, or necro warrior, and the other team has Druid and Aruamancer Set up for condi removal. All in all, I really think it would require people to focus on a given role, and think more about what allies are running.

mrauls.6519:

Or at least hide their names

Yes! That would help as well. Good idea!

Tiefsee.3647:

If i see 3 rangers, i am defendly picking something that can reflect

But if class stacking is solved, it will become more difficult picking a counter class

Or a warrior. Ouch. I know I am going to have a bad day when there is another Druid on my team and someone swaps to warrior on the other side. My skull aches just thinking about it!

Well, I can’t agree that there is no skill to the game. Clearly there is.

However, making it possible to target allies with support/defensive buffs would add another dimension of skill. I miss this from GW1.

It leads to unfair matches with people picking counter classes, instead of working to improve their own team composition.

This would increase quality of play as people would be forced to think more about the roles they are trying to fulfill on their own team.

^ I know, right.

Drawing, and using the symbols they added are really the best way to communicate, and they cut through language barriers as well.

Many times people type essays into chat and get mad when Others don’t follow. Some 1v1 or 2v2 battles are so intense it’s hard to read, where a simple arrow on the map would have sufficed.

We need to build a fire wall to keep foreign speakers out of our games!

…that, or learn to draw on the map!!!

Divine.3279:

Archon.6480:

Divine.3279:

That’s people for you my friend. Even in Platinum 3 where I am at the moment I still see people sitting on a node and leaving the team at a 4v5, still see idiots rushing to far and dying, still see people playing classes they have 0 clue how to play because of the stupid PvE backpiece ArenaNet implemented.

…or they have a clue how to play and are farming you.

So, you’re telling me when there’s someone sitting on a home node the entire game the other team has a “clue how to play and are farming you.” When a teammate of mine plays lets say Druid for the first time ever in ranked and gets killed over and over the enemy team has “clue how to play and are farming you.” What are you even trying to say here? Please clarify because I really don’t understand.

He has friends on the other team and is helping them farm you. If he stood in home base, it would be obvious. So instead, he runs around being a rally bot and does dumb things the whole match.

Or do you really think that is how he always plays and magically got into Platinum?

…I still say S1 had the closest skill matches. The bunker meta messed up that season, but the matchmaking was the most accurate since launch.

…it already does!

Divine.3279:

That’s people for you my friend. Even in Platinum 3 where I am at the moment I still see people sitting on a node and leaving the team at a 4v5, still see idiots rushing to far and dying, still see people playing classes they have 0 clue how to play because of the stupid PvE backpiece ArenaNet implemented.

…or they have a clue how to play and are farming you.

Divine, nice story but it doesn’t matter what you are doing when there is someone on your team throwing the match on purpose. It’s very obvious for those of us who have been around a while.

I see this a lot in T3 gold and have no reason to believe it is any better in platinum. It’s that or the matchmaker somehow put a player into high levels that runs into a 1v4 and insta-Gibbs repeatedly.

Without a grind based component, people will mess up ranked with alternate accounts. I feel bad for all the plebs that don’t understand how this is working. They think it is all about the matchmaker, they rage into chat with disbelief at how bad their teammates are, not understanding they are being farmed for rank.

This is the worst system yet. Easily exploited.

Ha, ha. I looked at your build and got confused…

Hm, I had a long week at work and ended up getting 300 points of decay on both accounts. I’ve played about 300-400 games total, and have been hovering in T2 gold. A few games are really close, many are blow outs (win or loose).

…when you realize you are being farmed by smurf exploiters on your team.

Smurf Wars 2.

Yeah. The system was changed after S1 to stack teams and hasn’t been fixed since. Just look at the top of the leaderboard.

Everyone should be around 50%. They are not, because the matches are stacked.

Thanks for build and advice. I use this build all the time. It is incredibly fun to use. I hope you are OK. Last day alive sounds scary and sad…

In T2 gold I sometimes get really close games so it seems the system is working, for the most part. S1 had the closest match ups, skill wise. However, the ladder had issues as well. More of the games were closer, though.

They need to change it so players must play a minimum of 20 matches to place. Decay would be better as a small constant value. Something like -10 rating a day you don’t play with no rating bonus when you start playing again.

Conspiracy Theory: The system was designed to reduce the number of games played each day! Hey, server processor time and network traffic are expensive!

Huskyboy.1053:

sexuallegend.2153:

okay first off OP, the top rank belongs to druid hands down. I can tell you aren’t incredibly proficient with the class at all. there isn’t one class that can counter dodge druid, which is my unique build and personally what I view as the meta build for druids. super high dmg warrior? no problem, just evade everything. condi shredder theif? cool just dodge and cleanse everything. condi mesmer with moa? cool just dodge and cleanse. high dmg thief? cool just dodge and heal everything.

Insane heals, high pet dmg, some of the highest possible mobility, second most stealth in the game….need I say more? lmao. the only weakness this build has is 1v4 combat or 1v3 vs good players.

Very important message here guys, plz pay attention.

Yeah, but what’s a Dodge Druid? Is that like a Chevy Guardian?

fishball.7204:

I think you would’ve climbed with less losses if you embraced the NA “pro league” meta

https://puu.sh/tcTrJ/b6386bc0ab.jpg

:^)

Lolz. I knew I was missing something in my strategy!

nothelseth.4621:

Dear bronze-gold players claiming they’re stuck in elo hell;

I’m starting this thread with the mindset that I want to have a civil discussion between us winners and the elo hell complainers.

I, kittykittymeowmew, landed in bronze at a rating of 612.

I’m now in platinum in less than 100 games with a record of 76-12 (soloq only) not including my placement scores.

I have three questions for you:

1) Is it possible to carry games
2) is it possible to climb out of gold reliably if you’re consistently the best player on both teams
3) why wont you guys just get good instead of spending your time whining here? Maybe you would have climbed out of gold if you did.

Anyway, let’s have a fruitful discussion until the mod slams my thread away

with love,

kittykittymeowmew

Interesting. I knew you could do it.

I think you can’t see the trees through the forest. I’ll ask two simple questions in response:

1. Why did it take the system 86 games to figure out you should be in platinum?

2. Shouldn’t you be legendary? Why does the system still have you in the wrong league?

Edit: Most of the threads are complaining about mismatched teams, the Elo hell thing is kind of a straw man. This only happened for a small set of people in S2, and it was identified and fixed promptly.

Mr Suicidesheep.6137:

Dear developers,
I just wanted to leave a short feedback of what I think about the new pvp system. I want to indicate that this is my personal view and you absolutly don’t have to agree with it and would just like to leave this here.

Idea of making matches quicker: great (still I got 8 minute-queues)
Putting rating and leaderboard: great
Increasing rewards you get: absolutely fabulous!
Duo queue: okay
No option to go ranked with 5: bad
Throwing all players into one pot: absolutly terrible -> you lose so much quality in matches and make good PvPers go salty over newcomers who don’t know better. This is not good for experienced players nore new ones and makes me very very sad! So teaming up people that have +5k matches with people who have done under 100 is a no-go.
The system that decides how much rating people lose or win: absolutly horrible in my opinion (making it harder to become legendary is great, but you are making the game really frustrating for actually very good players as they can have a win ration of 60-70% without any progress at all! You have totally overdone that).

I have met the point where I am actually considering to deinstall guild wars (after I have loyally played gw1 for 4 years as well) and hope you take consideration upon my opinon next season.

Regards and love!

It hurts to say, but I agree…

Jaxom.7310:

9 comments in… no white knights, wha is happeninginging!!!

…they have all had their skulls ground to bits.

Spartacus.3192:

BigKev.1927:

Spartacus.3192:

BigKev.1927:

I’ve dueled warriors who can basically maintain perma resistance. Since when is “resistance” synonymous with “immunity”? It would be a little bit better if berserker stance didn’t give a pulsing resistance, which makes boon rip completely useless. Some of you may disagree with this, but that’s your prerogative

Please ask the warrior you dueled for his build that had perma resistance…I’d love to see it. k thanks

And berserker stance was changed to a boon instead of an ‘effect’ but if it wasn’t pulsing it would be completely useless since one steal or corrupt would negate a utility that has a 60 sec CD.

1. Leadership runes+healing signet+berserker stance. Maybe more boon duration, but I’ll have to ask him when I see him next. Basically for any downtime you have on resistance, you can just block or evade.

Leadership runes and using heal sig-> Berserker Stance -> heal sig will give you approx. 31 Sec of resistance.

Even if you decide to use Last Stand grandmaster trait (which no one will use except purely for dueling a condi enemy and even then Cleansing ire is better) you get max 35 sec resistance on a 60 sec CD

So basically even using the most gimmicky of runes and traits you get a 59% uptime on resistance. Thats soooooo close to perma resistance LOL. I how people like to exaggerate on these forums.

And now you’re gonna tell me they use seeker amulet or diviner amulet. Sure now they have resistance but no toughness and no vitality and mediocre damage.

“Basically for any downtime you have on resistance, you can just block or evade. "
That’s not the same as perma resistance.

Uh oh, if they down you in 31secs… can we say it is perma?