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something like this would be the kittens… but thats just my opinion
a musket with a scope? NTY
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>_>… shall i go on?
that makes even less sense than the musket
that is the beauty of it my friend… embrace the nonsence..
Nah jokes aside, obviosly the scope doesnt fit but the musket in it self would make a pretty nice legendary id say
Seems you gonna die as a sad hobosack wearer then… the day they do something nice like this is the day i drink a whole bottle of the cheapest and most poignant cider vinegar i can find, record it, load it to youtube and post it on the forums… have my word for that.
I’m going to quote you on this and send you a PM in game if it ever happens.
Honestly the thing in this thread that bothers me the most is the copy and paste Elxir X skill, I’d rather have unique and interesting skills than fancy visuals. If I wanted fancy visuals I won’t be playing a medium class! >:(
yea quote me on it… i stick to that
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The healing turret… man. I dont know why you give that poor thing so much kitten. Its probably the most helpfull turret you can have (as non turret engineer). Since the patch it got a smaller hitbox and if you trait it right you got a shield bubble with it and\or vigor. I invested not really much into anything turret related and i still need to ask myself HOW i managed to play without it. If set up aoe regen, aoe condi clean, aoe healing AND as neat little bonus another aoe regen from the toolbelt ability and its all practically in your heal skill slot (if you use it). Seriosly… this thing is a mighty fine healer. Needless to say that you can also nuke it while you are stunned or knocked on the floor. And if you trait some explosives you can even literally use it to nuke the enemie while healing yourself. If you use the turret to its fullest potential its cooldown is fair aswell. I mean come on what more do you want?
No one is saying the skill is bad. Like you said, it’s arguably the best all-around healing skill engineers have.
It is, however, in my opinion, one of the most poorly designed skills in the game. It is healing “turret”, yet the optimal way to use it is to not treat it like a turret. Letting is sit out there and spin its regen around, “skillfully” timing the overcharge when needed, and making it something worth defending all sound nice on paper, but none of those are the proper way to use the skill. You set it out, use the overcharge immediately, then either pick it up or pop it in the water field. If you use it like it was actually designed to be used, you can seriously compromise your ability to heal yourself and your allies.
The other turrets generally have incentive to be left out. They’ll deal damage, CC the opponent, or give you other types of combo fields. But the healing turret has no true incentive to leave deployed. It’s perhaps a better option if you’re using experimental turrets since it can give party vigor. But even then, you are sacrificing healing potential.
It’s also extremely confusing to new players. I’ve seen various people while leveling who drop the turret before engaging a pack of mobs, and then kiting them back towards the turret so the thing can keep apply its regen. They’re doing exactly what the skill is telling them to do, but they don’t realize that it’s simply more optimal to use it as a simple burst heal skill instead of leaving it out and potentially having it broken by some mob.
In fact, I believe I remember there being a discussion on the State of the Game steam with Jonathan Sharp about the changes they made to the healing turret that made it into its current form. It was all about how the new turret would work great as a persistent source of healing that you would want to have deployed while besieging a tower, and how the health of the turret is possibly a bit to low, and how about enemies would possibly want to prioritize the turret in order to remove the group healing source, and so forth… Well, none of that ever came into play at all. It’s because the optimal way to use the turret is to not use it as a turret. That’s why I call it a glorified water bomb.
So yeah, good heal skill, poor design. If they want to make it be worthwhile as an actual turret, they’d have to change how it works. However, I think people would actually dislike that since it might make the healing “turret” an overall less effective healing skill… although maybe if a few of the other ones were buffed a bit *COUGH*A.E.D.COUGH, then it wouldn’t be such a bad thing.
Yea i see your point but actually i find myself “preparing” the turret if i expect an in coming horde… like for example AC dungeon. Since the patch ya cant stack anymore for the spider queen hence why i really just put the turret a little bit away from the queen and leave it standing, fight in its field and if the spider queen immobilises me (or anybody of my group) i just “overheat” it and done is the condi issue. I really dont use any traits to improve turrets cause besides the healer i dont really bother with them… BUT i do need to say that the healer can handle quite some abuse and can be left alone for a while without any issues. In fact it only happened ONCE in the 3 runs i did today that the queen actually decided to bother with the turret… cant say the same for the small ones but they couldnt even take half of its health down before we where done. The only times i really hate to leave the healer standing somewhere is at bosses or enemies with very strong attacks (like for example the asura fractal ogre and fire shaman). These guys will certainly destroy it when you dont want them to do it. Well to come to a point.. yea healer turret is a water bomb at many situations but put some trust into the little fellar.. he can deal with a lot
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well i just beat her, and after i realised that her attacks all got a predictable pattern it was pretty easy.
thats the build i used.. worked after 3rd try (the 2 fails came from beeing stupid)
In phase 1 i more or less just memorised where the vortex pops up and where the aoe lands… and before anything i popped the orb. Then just normal kiting the first minion into the vortex , toss the crystal and then run right over to the next vortex but take care the aoe should by now land directly on the vortex.. you should use your time to heal if you are stupid like i am and cant dodge the projectiles she throws at you. If the aoe is gone go right behind the vortex.. and one illusion should come straight from the front, let it pop , take the crystal and MOVE away.. cause by now you should have one to the left and one from behind aswell. Run past her and toss the crystal.. then over to the next vortex. From there on you should have 3 minions on your kitten , try to kite 2 into the vortex and grab the crystal. If you are low on health you might wanna use the turret heal before you toss it at her to be ready for her whip.. its not really pleasant to get hit by it cause of the cripple, the whip damage itself isnt all that bad. Well.. phase 2 starts then..and from there on its kiting in cyrcles.. drop bombs like there is no tomorrow and move together with the aoe. Use elixir s if an unexpected orb drags you into the aoe and elixir c to get rid of the cripple if needed and you should be fine
Yea the best way to “understand” the class is to play arround with the skills, kits, traits and weapons, see what they do in action and combine skills. Like one of the things i learned to love is my rifle´s “net shot to keep the enemie in place\jump shot a little bit before it.. but still in the aoe radius\blunderbuss right in the face\overcharged shot to send em flying” combo. Hits like a truck.. tell ya XD
Experience comes with the time, just enjoy your game and experiment till you find what works best for you… or look up some vids how the pros do it or look up builds that work for a lot of people and salvage what you need from them. Rest comes natural over time. I had the fortune to level up with friends that all picked different classes for their mains.. so we had a lot of fun trying stuff with the combo fields and blast finishers and how they can affect the group or just a different class with that you work together. Just take it easy and play along
Well.. now that i got a slickpack (what was my dream to have since i started playing and saw it on other ppl, thanks btw a-net for making my kittening day with this
) it russles my jimmies to levels beyond space and time that i have to deal with this darn kitten clipping. Seriosly.. a-net please get your kitten together and fix that, it cant be that hard to add atleast a godforsaken toggle button… come on now
Engineers are fine so long as you don’t camp flamethrower. Use your grenades, bombs, mines, riffle 3 & 5 and you will be doing great. Heck when pre stacking might you can use shield offhand for the might and switch to riffle before running in.
Or you dare to step out of the stereotype meta and support your group with green.. rather white numbers and dont care to be uber dps to prove a point.. that you could better prove with other classes. I dare to use a flamer as my main “weapon” in dungeons. Without a doubt the flamer is inferior to bombs or nades dps and condi wise, never gonna argue that point. But it is an aoe weapon and if you trait right and tinker a little arround you got an easy time with it in pve, i use the flamer since i play engi.. and i started out with this class. I get laughed at so many times when i pull out my flamer.. or e-gun in a dungeon, but at the end im the one who laughs inside if im the last one standing and heal\rez my group.. or plain and simple keep em alive while they dps while i apply some conditions with the e-gun, blind em with the flamer, lay down a fire field or spawn healing\regen stuff till the cows come home. While my skills cool down i use flamer 1 and 2 (and flamer 2 can pack a punch if you detonate the fire ball right after it went through the enemie. Sure.. dps wise my build might suck, but what good are dps if you cant do em in the first place.
Here.. thats the build i use for dungeons.. as for “solo non dungeon\fractal” stuff i switch the elixir-r with elixir-b.feel free to laugh and ridicule if it makes you feel better.
Your build is really bad even for a flamethrower build. Lemme help you out a little bit, because as it is now… yes I’d laugth about u too:
1) Cleaning Formula 409 and Fast-Acting Elixiers is not working for Elixir Gun skills! So don’t use them only to buff Elixir R… that’s a waste.
2) why Power-Shoes if you can choose Speedy Kits? Power-shoes are just the weaker version. Don’t go for power shoes if you won’t go for 6 points in inventions.
3) Sigil: why +20% burning? it doesn’t give u any extra tick. And your FT#1 is weak anyway. Go for Sigil of Battle. It is a must-have in PvE.
4) why platinum doubloons? If you rly need boon duration pick a rune with it. Anyway next point:
5) your rune is just bad. It doesn’t fit with your build. You don’t go for condition damage.
6) why do u mix your gear? Go for celestial gear if you want to be alrounder… you’ll get much more surviveability, much more damage and just a little little less healing (not if you take a healing rune…).
7)- 1000) … Sorry I am tired.
1) i am aware of that and since i dont stand still at such a short range that the flamer got i use elixir-r to refill my dodge rolls and\or clean off a condition. The faster elixir-r recharges the better (for me) cause i really dont wanna miss out on the elixir-r toss to revive allies and that way the potion serves 2 purposes
2) forgot to change the power shoes trait (that i usually use to go arround faster) to energized armor. Mistake on my side lol
3) yea i see whatcha mean, surely a better choice, gonna fix that later, thanks for the tip
4) I like to keep boons as long as possible on me what leads to 5…
5) yea.. not gonna argue that there are better rune sets, but there is sadly only one im
aware off that boosts the power of kits and other stuff i can pick up to fight (like summoned weapons) and adds some decent thoughness at the same time. And like i said earlier.. i not gonna argue a second about the lack of dps i got. Well i gonna run some tests later and see if i can deal with your suggestion there.
6) i mix my gear cause that way i sorta\kinda fill out the gaps where i personally feel stuff is lacking.
7) I use 90% of my skills to support my team and the flamer keeps me just far enough away from a devastating melee attack but not out of the range of the team to benefit from my ALL heals and regens i drop constantly. And to save somebody with an air blast, dropping the flamer, shooting a net with the rifle at the enemie or blasting the enemie even further away with rifle 4 and then deploy meanwhile a healing turret and blasting it to area heal or if a team mate(s) is\are downed tossing elixir r and taking sure they get up again…or whatever is needed.