Guild Wars 2

@Kiviar: I only say that because of the whole “winning server” arguement. Fact is, we still aren’t winning, but we are having more fun at not winning.

Kardiamond.6952:

You are still leaving an undernumbered server, for a server that have a night team ( that’s what nonomnom said). That mean you are joining a server with a fairly good population already. This is the kind of move that make match up worse!

We still aren’t winning though! Also, the server we moved to actually is mostly Oceanic, but that causes issues were the primetime for the server is changed, so there is still night capping… but it is actually during our day. Also, the leading team still outnumbers us at all times regardless lol But I do agree about making the match ups worse. Honestly Anet needs to remove the bottom 3 servers and roll them into the two above them, then shut off free transfers except to the bottom 3 servers left.

Not sure who told you not to bother with WvW then left, but yeah that does suck. On the last day I was there we made a decent attack on DH’s BL again and took over bay but lost it shortly after. So personally I was fighting until I left. But can’t say I speak for everyone in that matter.

And as I said before the biggest thing was just the lack of communication, egarding trying to organize the server. I know at some points we did give the TS info out in Team/map chat but nobody ever did bite on it, and it was always talked about during meetings and stressed. The two people I know that ever really used it were Shugknight (TFO’s leader) and Darksavage (SoS’s leader) and of those two I think Dark was the only one that actually communicated to us on it. Shug mostly used whatever his guild was using and was just kinda idle on it.

I have no hard feelings towards those still on AR. I honestly didn’t want to leave at first but when it came down to it I just was not having fun anymore. WvW is the biggest reason I personally play this game, and fighting over team/map chat to try to get people to organize just became tiring. I understand people on the server may not like us for our choice, I know we were not very happy with TFO when they left (granted we still had somewhat of a fighting chance then, compared to what we were facing when we left) But I am not a fan of people saying we just moved to a winning server without trying. And as I said in the other AR thread, we actually moved to a server who is currently in second place in their tier and their current matchup, so we didnt even move to a server that is winning more than we are now, we just moved to a more organized one with less stress.

Did you not read the part about ANV having a 200 slot TS server FOR OTHER GUILDS TO USE and no other guilds used it? Also there WAS an alliance called the Anvil rock coalition (ARC) which did have meetings but pretty much went nowhere, again because nobody communicated? ANV TRIED to organize the server and got nowhere with it. We tried organizing the server, twice, before TFO had left, and then again after. We also tried recruiting guilds to our server, once again to no avail. atm we still have TS rooms for the guilds of SoS, TIAZ, TRT ATX, TAC, OTBT. we also had a room for TFO until they left. So please, do not just group us into jumping ship and saying we didn’t try.

And as far as #2 who else was there to follow? And why should we wait for someone to finally step up when we had been for a month to no avail.

MVP left first, went toa server who is in 3rd on points. TFO moved to a server who is top of their bracket but, Not sure how they are doing atm. And ANV is on a server that is second place on points in there current match up. So 2/3 are currently not on top of their tier servers atm. But also have no clue how TFO is doing. So to say the guilds moved to winning servers isnt exactly true.

No, because the fight still exists. ANV was able to take keeps/towers while in AR, using pretty much the same tactics we have to use currently. Just now we can actually invest in them instead of leaving them empty due to there actually being people left to defend them in the end. It Is a difference is the organization not difficulty. The only thing you could really say that would be easier is that people actually listen and defend key points, but the overall epic battles are pretty much the same as what we had in DH BLs on friday. You take a place, you defend it, and wait until the time is right to try to expand.

Hell this was shown the first day we were on the server. We had the outmanned buff on an enemy borderlands, yet we still had our southern corner and a keep under control, and were pushing off zergs and constant attacks on our points. The only thing that made AR more “difficult” were the people on it that refused to work together. Hell if people had worked together in the first place i doubt TFO and ANV would have left. What got us in the end was the horrible attitude in WvW more than anything else.

“@Sess Staying put? Good, not that I don’t understand why people would transfer to an easier situation. But remember, you don’t get better at something by going down to an easier situation. People are going to be hardened veterans on the lower tiered servers long before most other players. We will adapt to survive, because we have to, and that will pay off in the long term.”

We didn’t move to an easier situation. We left because we were sick of being in a completely unbalanced matchup every week, and because there was no organization on the server. ANV had a 200 slot TS set up for all the guilds of the server so we could coordinate and become organized, and barely anyone used it. We had multiple commanders in our borderlands that had no clue what they were doing other than zerging, and pugs that did nothing but follow said zerg without defending one bit. (To put this in perspective, friday night we had a queue on AR BL, and still lost everything on that map, because people do not know how to defend.)

When anyone that wasn’t Nom (and people even argued with him as well) tried telling them what needed to be done to keep our keeps/towers/camps the general attitude was horrible and led to fights in Team/Map chat. The whole situation was nothing but frustration, and sorry but what is the point of arguing with your own teamates while trying to do something all of us enjoyed.

As far as an easier situation? No. It isn’t like we moved to DH for the week to spawn camp. We moved to a much more equal playing ground, where you still have to fight tooth and nail to take/keep points on the map, but also the investments you put into the map are actually worth it instead of wasting multiple gold to take/defend a keep only to lose it to numbers 2 hours later.

Any AoE counters Stealth, as it does not stop damage. I agree it is a bit annoying when they run because there is no true way to break it in that case. Best way to deal with that is to lock them down. Immobilize, knockdowns are your friends. Also Gaurdian’s binding blade will not only auto hit them in stealth, but shows where they are, and also allows you to drag them back, normally giving enough time to land some damage.