Guild Wars 2

What the actual crap…..

buttski.6135:

you’re from a professional esports team and can’t figure out some good wvwvw builds?
uuhhhhuuummm…

Ever think that the organization I am apart of is not in GW2 and I am simply posting here trying to get some help.

Then all of a sudden its taken as if I just shoot someone in the face and I have cut off your left ear.

Humorless.1573:

Are you not capable of comprehending the english language?

Figure out a build yourself.

Really mature and great job avoiding the actual question mate.

somsom.5201:

Please show me where I said I was a eSports player or even am trying to play GW2 professionally?

Thank you to everyone that PMed me and actually posted some helpful builds to mix and mess with.

The rest of you seriously need to just calm down. I meant in no way to offend anyone or call the thief community bad or w/e you think I am calling you guys. I apologize that the statements I made where taken personally or the wrong way. That was not my intention, it was simply to try and get some feedback on the WvW specs in the GW2 thief community so I can better understand what works and what does not work.

Suralin.3947:

Bazeleel.8219:

Never said roflwin so not sure why you think this.

What is the best WvWvW thief build right now?

No, I didn’t misread that. I’m not taking anything personal, I’m pointing out the perception you’re giving off.

Which is what?

Suralin.3947:

Bazeleel.8219:

Still I was asking for a really good WvW build and no one seems to really know of one. I feel like the thief community kinda died due to the nerf bat over and over.

No offense, but I wouldn’t help out someone who just wants to “roflwin” and then subtly insult the Thief community for not pointing out a specific “win” build when all of the thief builds demand a different style of lay and has their advantages and weaknesses.

Never said roflwin so not sure why you think this. I asked for the top WvW builds. So next time I would read the posters words before you just jump to silly “facts”.

Also I think you took what I said personally and then took it as I was insulting the thief community, which I am a part of btw. I simply said there is not as much activity as their has been. How you took that as a insult to you is something I will never understand.

Still I was asking for a really good WvW build and no one seems to really know of one. I feel like the thief community kinda died due to the nerf bat over and over.

Wick.1280:

Weekends have always been a “weird” time for servers. DB constantly loses in the points department. We make it back as the week goes on.

Boy I wish it was like that on our server I would also like to know why we haven’t changed servers the last 3 weeks From my understanding shouldn’t we get 2 new servers each week?

Dev if someone can comment on this low pop vs high pop server issue that would be really helpful:)

GuardianOMS.8067:

Aren’t all NA servers high population now? It’s not an issue of population, it’s participation, and ANet cannot account of that.

How are all servers high pop? There hasnt been any server mergers yet. They even said you can transfer to lower pop servers for free when they let you. So its still a big issue

Humorless.1573:

d/p with mixed gear and 0/x/30/20/x

That is not very helpful
What does x mean?

Me and my guild are on Avlin rock and we have been facing Borilas pass and Emery bay for the last 3 weeks now….It is terribly silly. They both are high pop servers and we contently get zerged everywhere. No matter what Anvil rock does. We simply do not have the number to compete with them even on the weekends, which is the biggest turn out.

I would really like that high pop servers and low pop servers never face each other. It is starting to make WvW very uninteresting and not worth doing.

Google is not helping me What is the best WvWvW thief build right now?

I was told this was https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/WvW-Nightblade-Thief-Build

Id like to have the skill be a insta cast again. Its stupid to have it on a cast time when ALL our other venoms are insta cast.

That is my biggest issue with this game, every class can do everything. There is no real difference in classes. I am glade I am not the only that feels this way, I thought I was crazy.

Gosh that really sucks….Are there no MMOs with good pvp anymore

kagemitsu.3657:

It’s still the same. Check back in a couple months.

Seriously?!

I have been moving into a new house over the last 2 months. Has this games pvp finally gotten better? I really want to come back and get back into pvp but the way pvp was 2 months ago was really disappointing

Arena Net please let us know you have read this. I want GW2 pvp to be awesome!

This really makes me sad I had such high hopes for GW2 and it failed like all the other MMOs.

Its not just the PvP that is suffering. The PvE is also pretty boring and the “random” events get old after you have had 1 level 80. Grinding for skins is silly and feels like a complete waste of time.

The PvP in GW2 should be the main focus on this game. There is no gear grind so its all skill based. How do you mess something like that up?

Arena Net I honestly expected a lot more from you guys Guess Valve just needs to make a MMO and show the world, yet again, how to make a game and please your community.

Lysico.4906:

no specs op, can’t help..

What are you talking about, I posted my specs????

zerk.9701:

Bazeleel.8219:

My rig specs:

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB 1600 Mhz
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ 970
EVGA nVidia GeForce 460 1GB
AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz

I can run BF3, Planteside 2, Skyrim, etc… all on max with 70+ FPS. In guild wars 2 I barley get 35 fps.

All drivers are updated.

Why even post the other games you can max it’s like apples to oranges.
The FX 4170 will strugle in this game in big events and WVW turn off shadows, reflections, and sampling to native and that’s the best you can run the game.

Only Planetside is far more taxing on rigs then GW2. Not to mention its even more poorly optimized then GW2 currently is.

kirito.4138:

Where is your FPS being measured and what settings?
If its WvW or Large cities that would be normal. GW2 is very cpu bound.

See Part 4 of this thread for more info

That is the issue I shouldn’t be having ANY FPS issues with the current rig I have.

My rig specs:

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB 1600 Mhz
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ 970
EVGA nVidia GeForce 460 1GB
AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz

I can run BF3, Planteside 2, Skyrim, etc… all on max with 70+ FPS. In guild wars 2 I barley get 35 fps.

All drivers are updated.

I know it is not my PC. I can run run BF3 at 90FPS on max settings and stream it at 60 just fine. Ive tested this with SWTOR, SCII, Farcry3, skyrim, and many other high end graphic games.

So again can a GW2 dev possibly comment on this please. I understand you guys are trying to help but I know its not my PC.

Anyone have any ideas as to what this might be?

Rig Spec:

8gigs DDR3 RAM (1600)
AMD 3rd gen quad core 4.2ghz CPU
GTX460 (Super clocked) GPU
ISP is 5 down and 1.5 up with Buckey Cable. They have been out here and confirmed all lines and boxes are perfectly running.

All drivers are current as well as the bios, windows updates, etc…

In no way should I still be seeing 17 FPS in lions arch or any of the main cities.

Anyone? I just got back into the game(just moved) and Id like to start posting again

It is only allowing me to put in 45 letters per post.

Says I can only post 45 letters…

First off, I love this game but as of late not so much:(

So finally found a OF server. I have to say…what a waste of my time. This just proves that the combat system is terribly flawed, there where maybe…….3 melee out of the 200+ players. They where contently dead. The middle part lasted way to kitten long…why? Why did that make it passed testing? Then the loot chests is finally there and 90% of the people got nothing of any value what so ever. A bag and a trinket? This is not WoW, this is GW2. I want 4 bloody hours of my time to be worth something.

This event is and was a lot of fun, for the first hour. Then it just drug on and on and on. You cant do that. That is lazy game design, if your going to make a event you cant have people beating on piles of rocks and webbing for 45 minutes or killing 100+ mobs just to make the stupid bar go up.

In closing

Combat system needs a complete overhaul in PvE
Big events like this NEED to be better thought out
Loot system needs to give items you can actually use
You need to fix the lag issue and the invisible enemy’s

I love you arena net I know you will work hard to really make this game something but right now I am having a really hard time enjoying GW2

“Too much is broken. I would be turned off by MMOs if this was my first because of it.”

Ok then good luck liking ANY MMO that is new for the first year. You understand that EVERY mmorpg has massive amount of bugs and errors for about the first year right? Look at SWTOR, AION, WoW, COH, DCUO, etc… all of them had big issues at launch and months into the life of the game.

Hell WoW is the worst when it comes to this. There are still bugs in the game that where around during vanilla.

SWTOR had and has some of the worst bugs at launch and still does.

You can not judge a mmo simply by the bugs and the errors. Game like these are too massive in size to catch every single one of them.

Look at how many have been fixed. Every single patch has been slowing knocking out each bug and issue that players have brought up.

To answers the OP question. I would take it for what it was and think it was a well crated game and love it. No sub fee compared to all the other ones? Yes please.

I would have to agree. Once the game went live it was nice to see the feedback they listened to.

I main as a thief and the thief forums have been good up till they nerfed pistol whip. Which was OP to started with, and even with the 15% nerf you still do a good amount of damage.

I run the condition damage build and I really like how the game rewards you for being a skilled player. Sure the kitten 100 blades and Super crt builds are pretty popular right now but if you are a skilled player you can walk all over those players and feel good about it, knowing that it was you not your class that killed that player.

My only issue is the hammer warrior and I think mesmers are still a little too powerful but all in all the balance of this game is wonderful!

pandemos.3497:

I can’t play without supersample on… or to clarify, I can’t play gw2 without supersample because of the amazing details they have all over the place. Minecraft I run without any AA what-so-ever!

Your right the detail of the game is amazing! Yet I would like to see some option so i can still show the detail but either stream or record vods with a good frame rate.

Entity.3408:

I hope so. Supersampling makes my comp choke.

Considering the game seems to base itself around cosmetic looks it seems odd not to offer a feature that will make my eyes feel more relaxed.

Yeah I would really like more options for streaming and making vods. Its either full AA or no AA.

Are there any plans to give us more AA settings?

Oh they are….So they still have all their upgrades on that server?

So i logged on this morning and all of my upgrades and banners and research seems to have reset!!!! Is there anyway to fix this?!

Volrath.1473:

1 thing i know for sure, Warriors are not getting any nerfs.

Yeah im am not understand that at all…They get more armor and HP then we do and yet we are the ones that get a kick to the face? Typical MMO logic.

Bbaghi.8934:

Its always been like this. People whine about the thief/rogue/stealth class in every game. The nerf is Ok, but I hope they don’t continue doing this till the class is in stone age.

Smart Thieves will always find new ways to kill people..

Yeah this part pisses me off greatly.

The nerf was needed imo but not by 15%.

I would really like to be able to shadowstep and steal to locations and targets that are above me. I don’t understand why this is not possible.

Shadowstep is a great idea. It removed 3 conditions and gives you 2 stun breaks. The issue with it is that the range is way to short. Your dodge can cover a little over half of the full range of SS. It really is only good for the stun break and the condition but I think it needs a bigger range.

Kitono.9152:

Bazel you will have a good time with sword dagger if you have skill. Its got mobility, condition removal, dazes, stun breakers, and cone aoe damage at the cost of the difference in back stab damage. That is why sword main is better than dagger main. Because it allows for better reacting to and controlling your opponent.
I laugh at p/p and D/d thieves and generally find p/d skilled thieves to be my only comparable competition.

What are some good utility skills that go well with the S/D build? I am currently using Shadow Ref, S wire, and ShadowStep. With my elite skill as the venom.

Vexus.5423:

Bleeding is calculated on a per-tick level, not over the whole duration of the bleed. If you apply a bleed that does 1200 damage over 10 seconds, and you use this Sigil of Agony, your bleed now adds one tick, doing 1320 damage over 11 seconds. It’s a 10% increase in damage in this case, but a zero increase in DPS.

The thing to consider is each tick, or second, of bleeding is the same damage. You want it to last longer because eventually it turns into massive DPS when you have 18 stacks of bleeds on someone each doing 120 damage, you’re doing 2160 DPS, and you want that DPS to last longer.

Thank you very much for such a great answer! This helps me a lot!

Sigil of Agony makes me wonder why people use this for their condition build.

Should we want our bleeds to tick faster to do as much damage as possible? Wouldn’t it be better to have the +5% to damage or crt then have a bleed that takes longer to damage your target?

Maybe I am missing something.

So flanking strike is not useful at all, I really hate to use pistol whip and want to learn how to correctly use FS. I am not a fan of the no HP thief that just bursts down targets.

I dont like replying on my stealth. Because its not perma stealth you cant count on it. I would rather use the doging as much as I can while just making my target annoyed as crap.

This is why GW2 is going to be my last MMO. Everyone just complains about balance and never wants to take the time to learn how to fight. Honestly I blame blizzard for holding everyone hands in the MMO scene.

Ill give the shadow arts traits a go. Keep in mind though there is no right way to build something, I know there are a lot more build for S/D then just yours

I have been testing the sword/dagger and I have had some good games with this build, Yet I am finding it lacks something. What could I be missing?

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#2|3|2642|6677|2631|2786|11435|20|1738|1714|0|30|1190|1193|1728|0|0|0|0|20|1165|1700|0|0|0|0|0|19|0|5|28033|61745|49965|49965|49965|49965|49965|21031|48789|0|0|0|0|

Mrb can you PM and give me some tips. That would be really helpful!

PvP I will change that my fault

I used to run a high HP build with D/D but as the game as grown the build is no longer that great. I have been working on a build that gives you solid HP, armor, and crt. I would like some feedback on it and see what others think. This is for PvP in case anyone was wondering.

Cheers!

Edit: opps forgot the link http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#2|3|2642|3990|4001|134|11435|25|1137|1143|0|30|1190|1723|1728|0|0|0|0|15|1698|0|0|0|0|0|0|10|3|5|28043|28033|49965|49965|49965|49965|49965|21031|48792|0|0|0|0|

Oh kitten thank you