Guild Wars 2

Dean Calaway.9718:

Stephen.6312:

The giant drill dominating the western horizon of Lion’s Arch is very, very big – so big, it has led a number to question: Will Mordremoth crawl out of the hole it is drilling?(…)

Stop reading here, if a Dragon is gonna crawl out of there, is gonna be Primordus, where are people getting Mordremoth from?

From below Lion’s Arch?

Akari Storm.6809:

Suggestion: Split all tonics into two different skill sets. 1 used in pve/wvw and 1 used for costume brawl via town clothes.

Example:
1. If tonic is used while in regular pve toggle, you keep all skills and can move normally.

2. If tonic is used while in town clothes, you gain costume brawl abilities.

That’s what I would do anyways, kind of like the watchknight tonic.

If you can get a combat tonic in wvw it wouldnt be fair because you have to see the animations of the skills. So a PvE version would only be viable.

Well everywhere where normal Krait are, there are Obelisk Shards, so it seems like the whole Krait race is benefitting from the alliance.

They just gave Konig a dev account without him knowing it so he goes insane and doesnt remember every lore fact that busts the living story. The cause is yourself Konig, stay with us

But honestly a dev needs to respond now so the balance is restored again. Just to sai “Hi” so we know someone read this. At least the red icon was real then.

Destroyers too…

It is the Hall of Monuments. If you played Guild Wars 1 it would have some meaning to you but you never have to go there in Guild Wars 2 if you dont want to. It has been in game since launch.

It doesnt look that big to me…

Tanith.5264:

Well, it’s now 3 PM in Germany…I went to GW2.com and found this

Has that been there, or is it new?

That’s the new thing.

It is clearly not Frostgorge sound. FGS has not got a green map on both sides. The lake is too big to be the one in FGS and this lake doesnt have ice islands in them. I can also see in the bottom right corner the top of the Fireheart Rise map. In the top left corner there is a snowy area which corresponds good with the Far Shiverpeaks. The probe spots dont line up with the ones in her lair:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Scarlet_monitor_1.jpg

An arrow come roughly from that spot but dont know if thats worth something.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Scarlet_monitor_3.jpg

I dont get how this is so hard to see.

Uruz Six.6594:

Blurk.6231:

I noticed something strange on the screenshots of the interior of the Drill.
Dont read if you dont want to be spoiled in any way, I warned you. It isnt a really big spoiler but anyways:

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In the Drill, there is a projection of a map with the spots of the probes on it, like we saw in Scarlet’s lair. Only this map, is not of the playable area of Tyria it seems. It looks like the Northern Shiverpeaks.

Was this your screenshot or someone else’s? ‘cause I’m wondering if it cycles through varying maps, like, say, Cursed Shore, Crystal Desert, the Maguuma Wastes…

Also of note: The stick figure to the right. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of the marionette.

Mine, it doesnt cycle. Just this one with pulsing probe spots. It could just be decoration but I really think this is a weird decoration if it was one. This only raises more questions really. So it must have a meaning, right?

It is north of Frostgorge. On the right of the icy area is green land and on the southeast of it are the scorched landscapes of the Fireheart Rise. Also there is a giant lake which corresponds better with the Far Shiverpeaks than with Frostgorge Sound.

I noticed something strange on the screenshots of the interior of the Drill.
Dont read if you dont want to be spoiled in any way, I warned you. It isnt a really big spoiler but anyways:

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In the Drill, there is a projection of a map with the spots of the probes on it, like we saw in Scarlet’s lair. Only this map, is not of the playable area of Tyria it seems. It looks like the Northern Shiverpeaks.

Please confirm this is indeed the Northern Shiverpeaks. I am really confused by this, the only thing in the Northern Shiverpeaks of interest is Jormag right? Well tell me wat you think of it.

Screenshot:

http://i.imgur.com/IWddfEy.jpg

Map:

http://i.imgur.com/NgYeFj4.jpg

You have to zoom in a lot on the screenshot.

The way I see ley lines is like rivers, they flow beneath the ground. On the intersections, the magic is obviously the strongest. When Scarlet reaches the ley line intersection with her drill, the flow of these rivers will stop and she will probably tap the power from the intersection. In other parts of the world, the amount of magic will drop as a consequence, with maybe some results, maybe not. She will use her collected energy to do something, like awaken a dragon as mentioned before, which will likely kick off the season two.

Really I think some things are just poetically said, we shouldnt take everything litterary. So far there isnt really a dragon that fist everything perfect we have seen so far. It could also be Jormag for all we know. He is a dragon with whispers of power etc.

I believe these are often used models but I am not certain. So they might not say anything about Scarlet but just some random asuran terms.

EDIT: yeah http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/4/4e/2012_original_asuran_translation.png

Tanith.5264:

And let’s not forget the bank’s most endearing residents, Raisin Face and Squooshed ‘n Weird. I think S & W might be at the Vigil camp, but can’t confirm. I have yet to locate Raisin Face.

This. Raisin face was awesome. If he doesnt show up ill change my signature.

Sure she could make the portal somewhere else but I really dont think the Marionette us that important. The devs said the thing above the Marionette was important even before the patch went live.

If the water level in Lions Arch went down the same thing should happen in all coastal regions, like Southsun Cove and Orr, this is not the case so the water level isnt going down. The only explaination is that the ground in LA rose. This is possible due to the effects of the breachmaker but I find this to be a useless addition. The devs are only making explaining things harder for themselves.

Also when a fake spoiler is posted on the official forum and people say it is data mined, as a dev you are putting a lot of people on the wrong track and there will be a giant miscommunication that is not good for the game. They also cant say the spoilers are not true because then they would rule out a huge theory. So as a dev the best thing you can do is just remove everything that has to do with it.

Zelkovan.2630:

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

So I have a theory on Scarlet that I’m not sure if anyone else has thought this. I havent gone though all 15 pages of this thread and though i’ve seen it, i’ve never really followed it, but here I go. Scarlet isnt a bad guy.

After gathering a large army, including a disposable force she can easily replace (Twisted minions), Scarlet starts drilling in LA for a dragon resting below the city possibly Primordus, in a fight against Primordus not only would a army made up of 5 different races and a force of disposable minions be useful, but the flame legion who are a mastery of controlling fire and the dredge with a knowledge of the underground. As well as Scarlet having her own personal brigade of airships to fight a dragon.

The same could be said about the krait with a knowledge of the sea if Scarlet wanted to also take on the deep sea dragon. The sylvari with the immunity to a dragons corruption would be useful for most dragons except Primordious who isn’t known for corrupting living beings anyway.

This theory has been stated before, both with Primordus and Mordremoth, but there are a few problems. We KNOW for a fact from this current patch that she is drilling under LA for an intersection of leylines, not a dragon. The other problem with this is why does she need to go murdering everything? Why not just collaborate with the other races to fight the dragons? There’s no point in killing everyone if your goal is to save them. There’s just a lot of weak points on that theory. If she is doing it because “no one will believe her” or something along those lines then it is a weak argument.

As patches keep coming it just seems less and less likely its a dragon. In all honesty, I’m starting to think she’s going for a Thaumanova Reactor incident version 2. Just like at Thaumanova, there is an intersection of leylines. She might try to use chaos/dragon magic right this time and…do something? Scarlet said that the Inquest mixed the magics wrongly at Thaumanova, not that they couldn’t be mixed. Perhaps she is going to create a stronger magical being that was the final boss of Thaumanova?

Prepare for the worst argument fans of this theory have been putting out:

- She is against the system of controll, she wants to be her only boss. She aint gonna get commanded by Trahearne to kill a dragon, she just murders everyone and then also kills a dragon so she is the only one left to celebrate.

I might be a bit exaggerating here but I hope you get my point.

Kalarchis.8635:

Trust me, I’ve read the spoilers, I know what’s coming as well. But as Konig pointed out in the Lore forum many times, she sent out a new Marionette every time.

Also, why would she test it and then abandon it? She has another waiting in that drill. The completed version. And just b/c I know which dragon it is doesn’t mean Primy isn’t also involved.

This is literally what Konig said:

Marionette’s dead – there was only ever one, the repeating event was for benefit of players it seems, confirmed during a Live Stream. – Konig

Also the Marionette came out of a portal, not out of the drill directly. A NPC near the Marionettes Landing says this.

As for the spoilers, I still dont believe them. They could be fake.

On the actual topic, the fact that the water level is lower is strange because LA is directly connected to the open sea so the depths flooding shouldnt be such a big deal.

Miroe.2054:

Wow, looks interesting. I believe this to be the entrances to her Drill ship once we fight back. Don’t know about the spirals though..

I assumed that too until I saw the one in the lower left corner on the map I gave. This is so hard to reach that it isnt really viable as a teleportation device to get into the drill. If this was the purpose of the things, ArenaNet wouldnt have even bothered with putting one there. This is why I think they are meant for something else and why I was interested in them more.

There really isnt much to speculate about them as they dont even have a name and noone mentiones something about it.

No they are just cautious. It is clear they want nothing to do with this at this moment. This happening doestn change their policy at all. They are not directly in danger as Scarlet hasnt targeted them. The Tengu arent allying with Scarlet either, because they dont help with the invasion. They are just defending their own gate and anything that comes near it will be shot at without warning. As soon as the danger reaches the Tengu, they will ally with us, or the opponent, but I assume with us as ArenaNet wanted the Tengu as a playable race in the beginning.

Hi there folks,

I have been wandering around Lion’s Arch and I have found something, or should I say some “Things” I suppose you have seen them but not really paid attention to it. A pic of one of the things:

http://i.imgur.com/wI5T6Ng.png

I believe I saw it spawning a few twisted mender as they had suddenly killed me when I was afk ing and checking if the screenshot was right but I am not sure. I believe however, that this is insignificant so I will not consider this “just a minion spawner” but something bigger as it is a completely new model.

There are four of them, at least as far as I have discovered. If you want to look for it yourself I am pretty sure I looked in the whole southwest area. Look at shores near the sea.

Here is the map with the locations of them (red dots):

http://i.imgur.com/p3r9IuL.jpg

The ones I discovered are all near the drill as you can see.
The interesting thing is, they al face directly towards the center of the drill.
I have tried to make screenshots to show that, they can be found in this album. At some points I was nearly dead and being stomped bij Aetherblades, which resulted in a bad screenshot.

http://imgur.com/a/JuMbO

Interesting right (and the fact the url says “jumbo”)?

Well thats really it. Sort of an anticlimax I know but I wanted to share. One more thing though. I have put a screenshot of the drill in the album as you can see. The drill is just drilling and inding its own business (unlike me) and from the drill some sort of blueish smokelike substance is coming. I first thought this was just water that was being pusched away by the force of the drill but when I was swimming towards some of the things, I looked up to it and a helix with the same blueish colour was rising from it. It immediately dissapeared though so it might have been my low environment settings or a bug, but I am certain I have seen it and it was pretty similar to the blue from the drill. This might be that Scarlet is trying to harvest literary all magic possible for something we dont know what. Last time such random appearance and vanishing of something happened was during an event where Steam Portals appear (random event, not implying connection to Steam creatures) and the portals kind of just popped up before the event started and vanisched when I walked towards it, so this blue helix shape could be part of a future release event, who knows. I will edit this post if you guys or I find something new.

EDIT: Guys I had another “halucination” at the same spot. I made a screenshot this time. It was again from very far away so it is not really visible if you dont know where to look, so I drew it for you.

http://i.imgur.com/vHtTert.png

Could be that something was taking a run before flying off. Getting higher with each step and thus the footsteps are further out of their way. Still doubtfull this are footsteps but we must also consider the thing has 4 legs

zamalek.2154:

Blurk.6231:

I am working on making a map with locations right now.

Uh….

zamalek.2154:

http://imgur.com/DTs6dca .

OOPS I didnt see the red arrows! I only saw the green line. My apologies. Well doesnt hurt to have two

Here is the map. All the footsteps you saw are on there. I think at least one of them might not be a footstep. The rest are possible to be.

http://i.imgur.com/tC5XwEn.jpg

@zamalek Here is the new LA map: http://i5.minus.com/iJ30kkOg2yjUY.jpg

Tomzzy.9564:

Hi there

You can see that the first gate is totally destroyed. So this might hint that maybe something went through because the 2nd gate that follows is totally intact and the footsteps also end there. So did this whatever it is teleport away?

Just my observation. Would be great if somebody else finds some more.

Or flew away…… [scary drums]

I am working on making a map with locations right now. Dont know if it leads to anything but its worth a shot.

My guess is that they all are part of the same sewer system that all goes out to the sea.

For the thief I would advice So Much Stab
Cant think of good names for the other ones yet.

Kraitkin and Frostfang

Just because everyone says it now doesnt mean it is true remember. At that time this theory already belonged to the possible theories.

videoboy.4162:

Blurk.6231:

Anything someone tells about the story that supposedly comes from the dat file is a spoiler, even if it is just put there to get us off track. So when someone says [insert spoiler] happened in the leaked dat file, then it is a spoiler. If it were true, I am not saying it is, and it would be the exact same way in game, people who accidentally read the spoiler will feel less surprised. So you can say what was leaked but the point was that he must use a spoiler tag for the people who dont want to know what is going to happen. It is true that there were some theories about that this was the case but nothing has been proven as there are a lot of points unexplained or against this theory. I mean no offense to anyone really if it looks that way I am sorry.

He didn’t post anything that wasn’t already revealed in the LS.

It was deleted

Anything someone tells about the story that supposedly comes from the dat file is a spoiler, even if it is just put there to get us off track. So when someone says [insert spoiler] happened in the leaked dat file, then it is a spoiler. If it were true, I am not saying it is, and it would be the exact same way in game, people who accidentally read the spoiler will feel less surprised. So you can say what was leaked but the point was that he must use a spoiler tag for the people who dont want to know what is going to happen. It is true that there were some theories about that this was the case but nothing has been proven as there are a lot of points unexplained or against this theory. I mean no offense to anyone really if it looks that way I am sorry.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Blurk.6231:

Savoy.6824:

I dont know why its such a secrete. I was excited yesterday when I found out the ending. I went and read all the lore about the dragon. I dont have a lot of time in my life so I dont want to waste it speculating and reading tons of useless information. But now that I have been informed and know what to expect I was able to go read up on it and I know the story of the dragon that matters. And I promise you that I was just as surprised yesterday when I found out as I would have been 2 weeks from now when they will reveal this ridiculous secret.

Because other people dont like to be spoiled. Think about that when you post something. The fact that you was surprised and dont regret reading the spoiler doesnt mean everyone will feel like you.

There is a difference between a spoiler and speculation based on facts that should be common knowledge at this point. If you haven’t bothered to learn what is happening in the LS up to this point you don’t get to complain that someone else has. It isn’t like this is a TV show that you can see reruns of, once it’s happened it’s fair game.

Since no one has actually played through the next installment nothing anyone says is a spoiler, it’s just speculation and pretty much the point of this subforum existing this early.

It was not speculation he mentioned something that was datamined and was therefore a spoiler. I probably know more of Scarlet than you lot. Follow the discussion before you criticize.

Savoy.6824:

I dont know why its such a secrete. I was excited yesterday when I found out the ending. I went and read all the lore about the dragon. I dont have a lot of time in my life so I dont want to waste it speculating and reading tons of useless information. But now that I have been informed and know what to expect I was able to go read up on it and I know the story of the dragon that matters. And I promise you that I was just as surprised yesterday when I found out as I would have been 2 weeks from now when they will reveal this ridiculous secret.

Because other people dont like to be spoiled. Think about that when you post something. The fact that you was surprised and dont regret reading the spoiler doesnt mean everyone will feel like you.

She acts like the things she did were also kind of the plans of the entity. But Scarlet says she didnt do this for the entity but for herself. This implies that they might have a mutual goal in some sort, which links to the Pale Tree. Also with the entity having a big plan of its own seems just not fitting with the dragons. I dont know but it the dragons just dont seem to have everything planned out for them.

VOLKON.1290:

JayMack.8295:

I think it’s been well established that she isn’t after LA – she’s after what’s beneath it.

Go beyond that. We’re fairly sure she’s out to kill the dragon, but is that the dragons plan? Will her attempt to kill the dragon awaken it fully?

We havent even got enough clues yet as to what the entity is and you think it is beneath Lions Arch? We also dont know if she is trying to kill the entity. What we do know is that thing that the probe found is a ley line, not a dragon. IF she can destroy the most important place of Tyria with only her army of alliances, she is not after a dragon to do that for her. There is more going on.

@Savoy you might want to put up a spoiler tag there.

I think the leaked files are fake anyways but if its true it is not good to be spoiled

I really like the Dhuum theory, but why implment this storyline with a Sylvari? It just makes it more complicated for me to piece this together with Dhuum because we have to keep The Dream and everything that comes with it in mind. Therefore I think it isnt Dhuum behind all this, while I woulnd’t mind it if this storyline is going there.

Thalador.4218:

Probably it’s just me, but I think this new “revelation” about the strongest (woah there) ley line being under Lion’s Arch is a no-brainier. Why there? Why not in Orr where the Source of the land’s magic was so powerful that it beckoned the gods to set up camp on the world of Tyria? Or somewhere in the Far Shiverpeaks where that ancient civilization that had built those crystal-structures found throughout the Depths lived? Or somewhere off the known map: the depths of the inland sea east of the Blazeridge, Tyria’s “America” to the west, at the bottom of that huge bay, south of Cantha, on one of the poles, or an insignificant patch of seafloor far away from any terrestrial land in the Unending Ocean, or anything?

Why… Lion’s… Arch? It’s an insignificant harbor that was once a summer retreat of the first human king and his family… as well as the watery grave of thousands after the Rising of Orr? I see no point in placing the “strongest” (what the heck does that even mean… shouldn’t it be the widest, largest, the one with the most magical charges/second?) underneath the city? Of course, aside from a Hollywood point of view that the destruction of famous megalopolises is “fß-#€!$-in’” awesome and may distract the audience from a shallow story that sucks big time…

It’s very disheartening that moar blood, gore, destruction, and death equals to a more likeable story for so many.

It is also strange that she was looking for the ley line under Lions Arch and that the probes are set out everywhere around the world. If she doesnt need the locations of the other places of the ley lines why place probes there? If I was looking for probes all along I would just put a huge number of probes in and aound the Lions Arch area. I agree that there is nothing extraordinary about Lions Arch that would attract Scarlet´s attention other than it being a populated area.

Stooperdale.3560:

I see the Dead End investigations as an attempt by the story writers to draw a line under the earlier story chapters. Everything Scarlet has been doing was explained away and if we don’t know something now then we probably never will. Under that assumption, we’ll probably not get any more information about the steam creatures beyond Scarlet’s excuse for controlling them. There’s so much information missing, such as who copied the steam mechanics to invent watchknights and what they’re doing now, that it seems unlikely to be at the center of anything new.

While I get your point, I cant help but point out that this entity tgat controlls Scarlet in some way wasnt tge center of attention either until 1 patch ago. Given this fact, Steam Creatures are a possibility to be at the center of everything.

Disclaimer: this is just an idea but that wouldnt fit in the title so I said semi theory. It is not a theory because it is complete speculation and no points are proven!

So I am very interested in the Steam Creatures and I am sure I am not the only one. I was hoping for a long time that the Living Story would explain more about them. I also made that other post with the connect the dots thing that came out to be not true but the ley line thing was at least correct. The idea posted here will have kind of the same consequence story wise. While this isnt a complete nonsense idea I got what might be going on, it is a stretch. I just thought I should let you guys see it before I get my head into this too much as it has been bothering me and I want to know what you think.

Now we know Scarlets connection to the Steam Creatures isnt completely random and a coincidence since Vorpp mentiones something about the Steam Creatures and that all this going on is the first clue to their origins. We also dont know what the entity is that Scarlet is talking to and that is talking to Scarlet. Now the crazy idea: I think the entity might be the hyperintelligent Steam Mechabrain (pun intended) that controls all Steam creatures. If you have played Starcraft think of it like the Overmind was for the Zerg-race. This Mechabrain is talking to Scarlet and is planning to take over our Tyria. The biggest point against this is that it is said that Omadd’s device only opened Scarlet’s thought process thus the entity was in her mind all allong, just shielded off. So it must have some presence in The Dream. The Steam Mechbrain in The Dream wouldnt make sense right? Well I thought that too but I am still posting this here because we have way to less knowledge of the Dream to conclude this is false. I see it as some form of the Mists artificially generated in some way. I see the Steam Universe as some sort of Underworld like in Guild Wars 1. I can’t really bring it good to words. It seems to me that these two can be linked with eachother and therefore I think we should give this idea a chance so please post your thought. Be critic.

This leaves the question what the Probe in Lions Arch found. I think it found the ley line (duh) but with the help of the energy of the ley line she will make a ginat Steam Portal and Steam Creatures pour out of it and kill everything.

Thanks for reading.

I am pretty sure it is not one of Glint’s babies. I believe it was said somewhere that the Shatterer is purely made from the branded soil and rocks and Glint was an actual dragon but I cannot provide a source on that. Can someone confirm this or am I wrong?

Well the gods left the world and are nowhere to be seen so for them to suddenly appear would be against the lore. It also wouldnt be fair against other players who dont play human so ‘No’ I can not agree with you on this one.

BrunoBRS.5178:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Really? I had been pronouncing it like Sarah…

Humorously, Scarlet’s original name is pronounced the same/similar as MY sylvari! (Kierra – Kee-ehr-ah) o.o And I play her as a forced Soundless (something traumatic happened, she lost her connection)… just like Scarlet…. And both had the same cowl…

STOP STEALING MY CHARACTER ANET!

:P

Thank goodness Kierra doesn’t go “teehee” and is a thief not engineer…

well, scarlet stole those watchknights :P

also, YOU MUST IMPROVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF OLD IRISH NAMES. it’s see-ah-ra, right? haven’t seen anything in-game that made it seem like i was pronouncing it wrong.

Canach says is the way Konig describes. Just stay there for a while and you’ll hear it.

Stange I never saw the actual portal reappear when I visited it a few weeks ago. Have the added it again? When did you take this screenshot?

Or time… I have begun to think more and more that this pression on time itself is not only because it is time for us to die and the clockwork minions but more like Scarlet can controll time itself. It is a neat idea but a shame we cant do anything with the idea really…

I dont know if this has been discussed already but since the husks come from the belly of the wurm, where did he get them from? Was he in sleep until recently or was he just living underground until recently? That would mean he got them from undergroeund, right? Or that he would have eaten them just in the time he is awake but afaik there arent any husks in the Bloodtide Coast.

Now the next question is: Why doesn’t Braham use a hammer?

Mephu Tahm Jr.1962:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Mephu Tahm Jr.1962:

BrunoBRS.5178:

it’s kinda displaced, yes, but it still pretty obviously refers to the water.

Water in what way? It’s not depth since there is no water depth on land, unless you are talking underwater caverns.

water in “the highlighted areas are land, the darkened areas are just the water”. think of a world map made from satellite images, compared to a drawn world map. the water looks far darker in the satellite ones.

you’re worrying too much about too little.

Well, I’m not going to be convinced until someone explains why the dark areas cover land as well.

I am pretty certain you didn’t put your 3d-glasses on. I did that and they lined up perfectly. I even managed to catch a glimpse of the Eternal Alchemy while I was at it. TEEEHHEEHEHEHE

No but in all seriousness I think youre really looking too much into it. It would have been diffirent if there were also dark patches not near water but they are all near water in the projections and I think the dark patches have been movet slightly to the south east on every spot.

Hi fellow Necromancers,

I have a question about what type of build I should play in PvE an dungeons. I already have a rabid gearset and I like playing the condi necro but I saw a thread with a power necro and that also seemed pretty good. Now I’d like to know what is the gear/build I should be using most of the time in PvE/Fractals/Dungeons (organized and unorganized). I dont really know where to go from here becasue I’d like to have the ability to use more types of builds but if I never use it becasue it is not really good it is a waste to get. I also saw a hybrid necro guide but is this really good?

Thank you very much!

So the Avatar of the Tree says Scarlet was looking too deep into the mysteries of the world but something was looking back at her. Now my question: Why doesn’t she tell anyone Scarlet is working for/ against something far more sinister than her engineering designs. As far as I know she hasn’t told anyone that Scarlet saw something looking back at her, which implies that there is a much darker enemy behind this than just Scarlet. We, the players obviously know this from her journals but I don’t think anyone else than we know it and we haven’t told anyone, have we? I must admit I didn’t have time to go to her story instance yet but from the pictures I have seen we don’t share our findings with anyone here. And apart from that, the Avatar must have known this for ages, it isnt just a new discovery for her. I think this fact is really important. Nobody has yet thought of dragons in Tyria (not us players) except for this past living story update so Marjory and Kasmeer and everyone could have made use of this fact in their investigation to her motives. It just seems really stupid of the Avatar not to tell it to anyone. I’d like to know if this is a plot-hole or this is intended (avatar of the tree doesnt really want us to fight Scarlet, which I find highly unlikely) or if I am wrong and she has told people. Thanks