Guild Wars 2

There actually was a lore AMA thread about a month after HoT’s release. Didn’t get any recognition though and no offense but I doubt this will be any different here. You can give it a shot of course.

Aaron Ansari.1604:

“…Cobiah could see it more clearly- and it was not entirely as he remembered. The monster was as dead as the ships of Orr, its black flesh rotted and fouled by disease. Barnacles clung to the creatures fins…” Sea of Sorrows, page 425. It goes on like that for a bit.

Okay nevermind then. Thanks for the quote by the way.

Was there a specific line in the book mentioning that the Maw wasn’t undead during the first encounter? I mean if my memory serves me right the first fight was a quick and hectic affair. Coupled with the fact that at point no one had ever seen a risen creature it is possible that they simply did not identify it as such yet.
I’m just saying that, because I think it was a bit too convenient that a creature was wreaking havoc in the area and shortly after Zhaitan awoke. Of course that doesn’t mean there has to be a correlation. Especially if there was a line pointing out that the Maw looked very different during the second encounter. Can’t check currently, but it might have been there and I just forgot about it.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Zhaitan has no known herald, but there is a dragon minion known to have been from the previous dragonrise – the risen giganticus lupicus fought in Arah explorable. It’s possible this risen was Zhaitan’s herald, which if so would mean that Zhaitan was given magic before rising. Alternatively, it’s possible that Zhaitan had no herald, thus leaving him to be like Kralkatorrik – waking without being given magic to assist the awakening (from another at least).

Could this undead sea creature from Sea of Sorrows have been Zhaitan’s herald? The Maw or whatever it was called. If I remember correctly (and it has been a few years since I read the book) the Maw was identified as a risen in the later stages of the book, but it could have already been one during the first battle too, which coincidentally also happened while Zhaitan awoke.

Usually ghosts can react to the world of the living. Aside from Crow there are ghosts like Captain Weyandt, the ghosts in the Eye of the North and Drooburt as examples.

It’s only the ghosts that are affected by the foe fire that are stuck in the past like that, since binding their souls to defend Ascalon for eternity was appearently part of the spell. Well there is one exception among the foe fire ghosts: Bria but it’s not really clear why she isn’t affected like the others. Maybe she died just before the spell or it’s due to her being a powerful necromancer.

Edit: Whoops forgot about the ghosts in Spirit Vale. They also don’t seem to be aware of much, they only know that they are angry. They have nothing to do with the foe fire though, but maybe the way they died has something to do with their state of mind. I suspect the White Mantle, who might be behind their death, wiped their memory with magic. That’s just speculation on my part though.

Well possibly the charr would call it the human language because they first heard it spoken by humans, even if it was originally the dwarven or forgotten language. Usually the first name something gets “sticks” even if it is inaccurate.
An example in linguistics that comes to mind would be the dialect of danube swabian. The name implies that it is a form of swabian, but it is in fact a variation of the palatinatian dialect. It got its name because the first wave of german settlers on the balkans were swabians, but soon they were outnumbered by settlers from the palatinate area, who had the bigger impact on the spoken language. The name stuck however and is still used today.

The thread title reminded me of this bit from Spoony: NSFW due to language

Why do so many people suddenly speculate that Rytlock becoming a Revenant will cause trouble with the Legions? Was there a statement I missed or any other hint towards that? I’m a bit out of the loop, sorry.
Still if there is no such hint, than I have to ask: Why would the Legions, especially Smodur have any problem with that? I know Charr hate the thought of worshipping anything and yes they distrust magic users. But let’s face it, being a Revenant has nothing to do with worshipping anyone, it’s merely honoring the memory of great warriors, something the Charr already do, as we can see by all those statues they build.
And while Charr distrust spellcasters, the Revenants are still primarily close combat fighters, that just happen to also wield magic. I mean it’s not like the Charr aren’t opportunistic enough to use any resource they can get their paws on to win a fight.
If the countless spellcasters in the legions aren’t a hint, than them being okay with the searing ritual (the ultimate Flame Legion spell) being used on the Risen in Orr, certainly is. So again, why would they not be okay with Revenants?

Well it is often speculated that we might find our way to Elona in a Kralkatorrik focused expansion, since he is chilling in the Crystal Desert, right on Palawa Joko’s doorstep. Nothing concrete though.

1. Was there it anypoint an idea to tease the minions of the Deep Sea Dragon in the HoT story mission “City of Hope” (the one with the Forgotten trial), or was that dragon always supposed to be represented by puddles of salt water?

2. Were the Exalted purposely made to look kind of like Mursaat, or was that just coincidence since they seem to be based on the Enchanted Armors from GW1, which in turn looked a bit mursaat-ish?

3. Are the Vampire Beasts GW2’s version of the vampires found in GW1? Or are they unrelated and just share a thirst for blood?

eduardo.1436:

Wild-Eye Miller has a strange conspiracy of Evon having a twin brother and they communicate through telepathy. Ignoring the telepathy thing there is an “Evon” Gnashblade hiding in LA along with a bunch of mercenaries. Notice that his name not his last name is in quotations so they MIGHT be related.

Charr last names don’t work like that, they are not family names, but warband names. So it’s not only possible, but in fact very likely that brothers in Charr society have completely different last names. Not sure why only the first name is in " ", but it doesn’t imply that they are brothers by that alone.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I’d argue that Logan makes a good candidate. He has military and leadership experience, and has sworn before to fight the Elder Dragons – the only reason he seemed to have gone back to Kryta was because of ArenaNet’s attempt at storytelling the Living World (“can take place before or after the end of the personal story”) which they later redacted with the finale of S1 and intro of S2 (“all of LW takes place after PS”).

I don’t really remember such a statement, but I remember they did confirm that Lost Shores takes place after the death of Zhaitan and thus after the PS. And while Lost Shores wasn’t technically part of the LS, all of S1 took place after Lost Shores. So that argument would have never made sense to begin with.
Aside from that I would agree that Logan would make sense as Trahearne’s successor, but unless he moves the Pact HQ to DR, that would mean he would be away from Jennah for long times. That wouldn’t really fit his “protective” personality. I know he has gotten better over the PS, dungeon storymodes and LS and he isn’t quite the lap dog anymore, but moving on to Marshall of the Pact, might be a little too much. So I would still favour Rytlock over him.

I said it before in another thread, Eir would have been the best successor imo. She was well respected, had experience fighting dragons, had experience leading in combat (at least on the small scale), had connections to powerful people and had no other commitment. But alas she died instead.
The other parts of DE make no good candidates, I think. Logan is too busy with the Queen, I doubt you could pry him away from her. Rytlock has duties with the charr and also isn’t presentable enough. Zojja is too immature, she is smart but she wouldn’t make a good leader. And Caithe is too shifty, not the kind of person that inspires loyalty in her troops. Out of all of them Rytlock is probably the most likely, but then people would start accusing him of being fur-jesus again.

Slowpokeking.8720:

I think he’s a lot less interesting than the mentor character, but otherwise he’s not too bad. I’m quite angry that they killed Eir though, especially before we take on Jormag.

Ironically I thought Eir would have been the best new Marshall for the Pact in case Trahearne died. Unfortunately she didn’t quite make it.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

WHen GW2 was released, devs said that they needed Trahearne to fill the role he does because it’s a role that couldn’t be filled by the PC – not the whole ‘independent of the Orders’ (they could easily write around that) but the ‘leader of a huge organization’. The PC cannot be bogged down by logistics.

If they had planned Trahearne to die in the second story related to him, then his placement was a bunch of BS from the start. The reason for his existence was BS from the start. And in all honesty? We need an NPC to fill Trahearne’s role – no game that told a good story had us as the defacto leader of a huge organization. Hell, even most stories regardless of medium don’t have the main character being the defacto leader of a huge organization unless its a tragedy or a sequel (which often results in losing that role).

We don’t even know yet if the PC is going to be the new head of the Pact. Please stop assuming things. The PC was only acting as provisional Marshall while Trahearne was missing. Unless the first raid wing gives us any more lore regarding the PC position in the Pact, I’ve never heard about, I don’t think we can just go and say the PC will be the new Marshall for certain.
And yes I agree we need an NPC as the leader of the Pact, but I see no reason why it has to be Trahearne forever. Trahearne became Marshall for 2 reasons, one is he wasn’t a member of any of the orders, but respected by all of them, the other was that he was a scholar who spent his life studying Orr and Zhaitan. Since Zhaitan is dead this second reason is not important anymore (I think it never was to beginn with, as he could giving his intel in a consultative position, but whatever).
Point is: Yes we need a Marshall NPC, but we don’t it to be Trahearne.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I might, possibly, think that they killed Trahearne because that’s what they wanted for their story, if the entirety of HoT wasn’t catering to the playerbase. Players had cried about the disconnection between GW1 and GW2 in lore since release, and HoT has more such ties than the initial release, S1, and S2 combined – even though S2 had a ton of ties to GW1 lore. From revenants to Rata Novus to Auric Basin HoT is stuffed full of GW1 tie-ins. The main plot is stuffed full of giving players what they wanted – from leading the Pact to killing Trahearne and taking Caladbolg. This trend began with S2, with continuous call outs of the PCs’ actions (“Please allow me to present your guest, Destroyer of Zhaitan and Commander of the Pact.” “Ahem. Introducing a hero who needs no introduction, the Commander of the Pact.” etc. etc. etc.)

It seems so blatantly obvious to me that they did these things not for the story but for the players’ wants. If they didn’t give players who cried out every single thing they wanted from the original story, I’d be inclined to agree with you. Regardless of reason for hating Trahearne, it seems pretty kitten obvious that Anet’s writers were set with the goal of quelling these outcries. Because it’s not just Trahearne’s death which feels like blatant catering, but well beyond that.

There is a huge differences between throwing in references to the first game and killing of major story characters. One can be done without any harm to the narrative, for example the entirety of Rata Novus has almost no bearing on the plot, it’s mostly callback material and probably set-up for Season 3. The rest of the reference heavy material could have been done with completely new lore, it just makes more sense to connect the threads. Same goes for acknowledging the actions of the PC (something I’ve always advocated), it is nice, but it doesn’t change the plot.
So in otherwords, just because they pander to their fans on a surface level, doesn’t mean they let them dictate the plot. I see no inevitable connection between the two.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

It only became predictable after the stage was set, long after the outcries for his death and the catering to the playerbase had begun.

The playerbase had been asking for Trahearne’s death since the a few weeks after the release of the game. Still we had several complete story arcs with him alive. Granted we didn’t meet him much, but he wasn’t really relevant for most of those stories. Which also leads to why he can die. He is not needed anymore.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Very few – if any – wanted Faolain to die off. Few enough wanted Eir to die off that it wasn’t a vocal outcry.

Not to mention Eir’s death was blatantly obvious in that it was done for Braham’s development – like all other characters’ development, Braham needed the death of a loved one to change. That’s the repeating trend with GW2’s writers. Every single character that has a development change has had a loved one die. Caithe had Wynne, Marjory had Belinda, Braham had Eir, even Taimi had Scruffy’s over-dramatic death occur.

I wasn’t trying to imply that there is a large group of people that wanted Faolain and Eir to die, I’m saying that because it looks like you guys are trying to put the blame on other people for a freaking character’s death in a fictional story. In other words I was showing how ridiculous that notion is by applying it to other characters.
And yes I know Eir died for Braham’s character development. I’m not happy with it, but I wont blame the people that like Braham more than Eir. Because that would be ridiculous.

MVP.7961:

This. Ten millions time THIS!
As a writer you don’t follow what the fans say, you write your own story and use your characters the way you planned to their full potential which these writers are not doing at all. The moment they start changing their story to what the fans want it become the fans story not Anet story.

What if Anets writers have planned Trahearne to end like this, independent of what the fans wanted. Seriously you all act like it’s proven without a doubt that solely the vocal Trahearne-haters are to blame for his death. I see no reason to believe that, considering Trahearne’s story was basically told and there was just nothing left to do with him besides heroically dying. Especially since almost all of the people who wanted to see Tree-Dawg dead, siad his was going to turn evil and be a major villain of a story arch. While he was possesed at the very end, Tree-Diddy himself never really turned evil.

And another general thing: Stop pretending everyone who disliked Traderp did it for the same reason, mostly that faux “he stole my spotlight”-stuff. That’s not at all why I disliked him and especially not the only reason to do so. So get off you high horses for a second and stop whining about a predictable outcome of events. You think I’m happy they killed of Eir and Faolain? Not really, but you don’t see me crying about and blaming other fans of the game for pressuring Anet into killing them off.

Boysenberry.1869:

It’s a good thing then that my Caladbolg is rotting in the bank. Maybe that’s a bad sign for Evon Gnashblade?

The bank has nothing to do with Evon Gnashblade’s Black Lion Trading Company, the company behind the banks is the Arch Exchange founded by a former member of GW1’s banking company, the Xunlai Guild.

Trivia of the week.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

BuddhaKeks.4857:

Obviously Spoilers: Deroir did a small video recap of the first raid wing’s lore, plus some of his own speculation what the information given could hint at.

So it seems that a bunch of Souls can just combine and become an Elder Dragon of Souls is what this guy is implying.

I would assume that Zhaitan was the result of combining a bunch of Bone Dragons together and we all know that the members of that species of Dragon are all Necromancers explaining the power of Death and Darkness.

With the White Mantle’s experiments the possibility that an Elder Dragon of Souls can come into existence has gone higher(how high I do not know considering we don’t even know how far the experiment has gone and whether it is intended to create a Elder Dragon slave for Lazarus the Dire or to empower him).

I don’t think Gorseval was the intended result of the WM’s experiments, he was more of a byproduct caused by the magic released at Mordremoth’s death. So in that regard I don’t think they are trying to create their own ED.
And while I also think the EDs are more akin to elementals than normal fantasy dragons, in the regard that they are basically a sentient amalgamation of a certain type of magic, I’m not sure if you can just easily fuse souls together until you have an ED. Like Erukk said, you’ll probably get some kind of titan first or whatever Gorseval is. But maybe if you give it a few millenia of continous soul absorption and you might get an ED of Souls eventually.

Obviously Spoilers: Deroir did a small video recap of the first raid wing’s lore, plus some of his own speculation what the information given could hint at.

CureForLiving.5360:

BuddhaKeks.4857:

Is Thanksgiving even celebrated outside North America?

We use to celebrate when we killed a lot of the indigenous population. They were pretty thankful they didn’t all get killed. Does that count? :P
Although they changed it to Heritage Day.

Depends which country you are from. Wikipedia tells me Canada has a heritage day, that wouldn’t count as it’s still in NA. But South Africa has one too, so that would count.

Either way, we have a holiday somewhat similar to Thanksgiving too, here in Germany. “Erntedank” (~“thanks for the harvest”) but it’s not celebrated like Thanksgiving and it’s in october, not november. Basically there are special church services on that day. So the only people that care about it are the ones that go to church on a regular basis. Not that many anymore. Personally I’ve never attended one.

Sorry bad wording on my part, by more corrupted my mean, more infused with draconic magic.

I think the Charr are closer to the Klingons. I mean the Charr always harp on about how they killed their gods and the creation myth of the Klingons is about the first couple of Klingons being created by their gods and then killing them, so they can rule over Qo’nos.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

BuddhaKeks.4857:

I think Vinetooths are corrupted Bonebreakers, the larger version of the Rolling Devils. We saw one of them in the PAX trailer, in the scene it chases some players until they jump of a cliff and glide away.

We see Mordrem Bonebreakers and Mordrem Rolling Devils. Vinetooths are much different than any Saurian we’ve seen.

They don’t seem that different to me. They have similar eyes, facial features and an overall similar figure. I mean they are obviously more heavily corrupted than normal Mordrem Bonebreakers but I still think that’s the basis for them. Like the Mordrem Guard Commanders are more heavily corrupted Mordrem Guard.

I hope I’m not stepping over boundaries, when I assert you may have not understood the central theme of the personal storyline. It’s about all races coming together to defeat a common foe. If you split it up and everyone goes against the dragon that did the most damage to his people or even himself personally we would still be a the beginning, with all dragons active and a lot of people dead on the ground.
Tyria had to unite to defeat just one dragon. That dragon happened to be Zhaitan since he was the most aggressive at the time (he attacked Claw Island and attemtped the same with Lion’s Arch). It was a now or never situation. Either attack Zhaitan on his own turf with a newly formed multi-national army or lose Lion’s Arch to him.

You face Branded in the ogre plot line.

draxynnic.3719:

Incidentally, regarding Mordremoth making Mordrem out of Risen: This, I think, is possible. Mordremoth largely does not seem to transform its victims directly, as Jormag, Zhaitan, and Kralkatorrik do. Instead, it takes a corpse or living prisoner and makes plant-clones of them. Which, incidentally, also explains why the sylvari look like humans and human pets (fernhounds) – the Pale Tree was planted over a human graveyard, and was thus able to use humans and dogs as templates.

I always wondered why there are no centaur like off-spring of the Pale Tree. I mean Ventari spent a lot of time there and he probably died there too. On top of that he also had atleast one follower, Ehrgen Windmane, who also resided at the Pale Tree. So there could be enough bodies for a template.

draxynnic.3719:

The origin of the Vinetooth is a little less clear, but the evidence seems to be that the dragons have some ability to tweak a basic template – the Vinetooth does seem like a variation on the Terragriff or a wingless dragon (when is a gryphon not a gryphon?). Some of the Risen later in the original game are even more twisted from their starting point.

I think Vinetooths are corrupted Bonebreakers, the larger version of the Rolling Devils. We saw one of them in the PAX trailer, in the scene it chases some players until they jump of a cliff and glide away.

Yeah, who needs challenging content, when you can get the achievements spoonfed to you? /rollseyes

Konig Des Todes.2086:

BuddhaKeks.4857:

I’ve never said in my post that either Zhaitan or Mordremoth are the strongest. I just said that the HoT story informes us that Mordremoth is even stronger than Zhaitan. Which I interpreted as Mordremoth being stronger at that point compared to Zhaitan when the Pact attacked him above Arah.

And what we said is that they don’t say Mordremoth is stronger than Zhaitan. They present him as being a more dangerous threat – as well as the most of the ED (at the time) – which is not the same as stronger.

While I don’t recall the exact instance*, I’m 100% certain the word “stronger” not more “dangerous” was used to describe Mordremoth in comparison to Zhaitan. The one who said was actually the PC, while talking to one of Destiny’s Edge (Canach maybe, but I’m not sure). It was one those answers you give in the chat box or whatever that dialog thingy is called, so it wasn’t part of the voice acted dialog. However I’m not playing the english language version, so a translation error is within the realm of possibility.

*had to think about it a bit, but I think it was the dialog you can have with DE right before Hearts and Minds. It may have been Rytlock’s conversation that led to the PC saying that Mordremoth is even stronger than Zhaitan.

Is Thanksgiving even celebrated outside North America? I mean Halloween is one thing, but I don’t think we need Thanksgiving in Tyria.

I’ve never said in my post that either Zhaitan or Mordremoth are the strongest. I just said that the HoT story informes us that Mordremoth is even stronger than Zhaitan. Which I interpreted as Mordremoth being stronger at that point compared to Zhaitan when the Pact attacked him above Arah.

Jaken.6801:

As far as we know, every campaign had their own hero.
The only people who were consistent to a degree were our Tyria-Allstars, as they came around and helped out.

The only canon follow up story, would be Eye of the North, because it could start from every campaign.

“The Hero” of GW1 is not us. It is one of many, since every fight he fought was thanks to others (aside from ascending the first time, though).
If we would channel “the hero” it would be the group around Devona and every ability, would be based on one of her friends, with one called: “The unsung hero” , representing our many forms he could have taken in the past.

Actually, that would be cool.
Devona could be a hammer smash, Mhenlo the healing, Cynn Aoe elemental damage.
Each of them apearing as a ghostly facet… only the hero without a face or a distinctive design… He could do a lot of confusion

That’s debatable. You can very much play through every campaign with the same character, they even have specific points where the character enters the narration. Aside from that, Devonna and the gang don’t show up for most of Prophecies. Saying she and the others did everything is a bit of a stretch. They also only appear alongside the Prophecies PC in Factions, so after the quarter of the story already took place and they also only appear in Nightfall after the Elonian PC already did all that stuff in Istan. And in that game they barely even matter since the game had the hero npcs from that point on, so Koss, Dunkoro and so on.
If anyone even remotely matters it’s Mhenlo, since he had the role of mentor for the Cantha adventure, for non-canthan PCs. Still he was less significant to the plot than Togo. Aside from that Devonna and the others only ever tag along. The PC is clearly the leader of the group, once the actual leader dies/too injured to fight (Rurik in Proph, Togo in Factions and Kormir in Nightfall). And EotN doesn’t even bother with a mentor anymore (and why would it? no matter where the PC comes from, he is already an accomplished hero).

I actually don’t think there is a strongest ED per se. I know in the HoT story they say that Mordremoth is even stronger than Zhaitan, but I atleast I understood it as “stronger right now”. Unlike Mordemoth Zhaitan was actually weakend and starved in a very long, ressource heavy campaign. Which is implied to be the only reason, along side specifically designed weapons, that we could kill him at all.
Mordremoth wasn’t weakened, however since only awoke about a year prior, I also don’t think he was at full strength yet. Still stronger than Zhaitan, because Scarlet directly fed ley-line energy to him, but not as strong as say Primordus who has been doing his thing, dwarves aside, mostly undisturbed for about 200 years now. Imagine if he found a ley-line convergence down there (not too unlikely since they are underground). That way he could be much stronger than Zhaitan was pre-starving. But maybe he hasn’t found any ley-line magic too feed on, maybe all he got was the old asuran and dwarven cities.
In other words, I think the strength of an ED is solely dependent on how much magic he consumed, so anyone could be the strongest, but also anyone can be weakened if you know how.

SirDrygan.1823:

Doug Whisper.2465:

No. Actually PC is the main villain because s/he killed off all elder dragons and bring chaos to Tyria. Glint’s egg help the remaining survivors to build the new world and it brings us GW3.

Lol. that would make lots of lore players flipped out….

Weeeeeell if GW1 is any indication, Anet actually likes having the player ruin everything: Collected a group of chosen that would later be sacrificed, gave the Scepter of Orr to the White Mantle, helped the Lich get the Scepter, helped releasing the Titans, broke the seal that held Palawa Joko and helped a xenophobic institution commit genocide on it’s own people. That’s just off the top of my head.

Sorry for the double post, technical difficulties…

Kalavier.1097:

It’s nice, but completely lacks actual size labels <_<.

Well there is Kasmeer for scale and as we all know she is a “unit of measurement.”

Even more scaling! Credit again to that_shaman.

Upright Dragon Moss? Não.

Baby Kaiju? Sim.

My link? It’s just a random google search for “feathered snake”. I just wanted to demonstrate how a typical mesoamerican dragon looks, especially the face.

The titans come from the Foundry of Failed Creations. I guess titans are mostly “forged” from human souls. So the question is, do dragons even have souls? If they have souls, do they go to the mists after the dragon died? And if so, do they go to the domain of anguish? Which is now Kormir’s domain, so we also need to ask, is the Foundry even still active? And even if it still active, are dragon souls even fit for use in the Foundry?
In other words, we know too little about dragons to give a good answer. Maybe titans can be made with dragon souls (assuming they have souls) but it is probably never going to happen since the only known spot for titan creation is no longer active and also in a part of the mists which was mostly reserved for human souls (you could find the odd charr and centaur though).

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Mind, I don’t disagree that makes him look rather awesome. I personally love the appearance of the Mouth of Mordremoth, even if it feels more like we should be calling him an “Elder Snake” than “Elder Dragon” but I’ve always seen the ‘dragon’ name to be a bit of a misnomer ever since Edge of Destiny and especially with seeing Zhaitan.

Well in older text the words “snake” and “dragon” are interchangeable. I’m not sure how it’s in the King James Bible, but in the german Luther Bible for example the dragon of apocalypse is never referred to as a dragon, it is always called “Schlange”, so snake. IIRC the word snake is even used in the german version (not sure about the english one) of “The Hobbit” (the book) for Smaug, though not exclusively. In that way I’m actually almost more surprised we don’t see snake-like dragons more often. It’s usually only when they are supposed to look asian.

And for the reason I was thinking Quetzalcoatl, aside from the overall theme of the expansion: I think it Mordy’s face. It has a lot of edge to it, I would describe it as somewhat geometric. It remindes me more of something like this https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b3/5d/70/b35d70dd30419e990559bb36055cc39b.jpg than the a bit more rounded asian dragons.
The feathers as a defining feature of the mesoamerican dragon are definitely missing though. Mordremoth would need some kind of leaves as mock feathers to make the look complete.

That’s the cool thing about it imho, but I admit I’m a bit sinophile. :>

Edit: I just thought about something, isn’t a bit weird that we get an asian looking dragon in an otherwise more mayan-aztec inspired expansion? But the MoM doesn’t just look like a chinese dragon, he also looks very much like a planty version of Quetzalcoatl.

Very much, I actually suggested it myself in another thread a week ago or so.

Well that’s the Mouth of Mordremoth to be exact, his phyical manifestation you fight in the Dragon’s Stand meta event. I heard a few people complaining about him looking underwhelming, but I honestly like the design. He kind of looks like a chinese dragon made out of wood and vines.

BuddhaKeks.4857:

I hope we get a size chart for Mordremoth soon. I would like to know how he stacks up against old Snakeface McRotguzzler.

We got a size chart now: http://imgur.com/GbG7BI5

Credit to that_shaman.

Well the Mordrem invasion event might not be canon at all. Or it it set during HoT, there is an army in Tangled Depths marching towards the west. Though it consits partly of HoT exclusive Mordrem which were not seen in the event. I guess it not being canon is more likely.

The Sylvari are the obvious one. With them it’s not only dialog but even events that change during the story missions (like characters leaving that would otherwise stay around). However there are slight differences for all races. For example in one mission my Norn said “by the spirits!”. While I haven’t played to that point with another race yet, it’s safe to say that other races will have a different exclamation at that particular point.

That sounds more like how an anime for 12 year olds would end, then a satisfying conclusion for this story.
“Yeah and they totally merge and become like superpowerful dude. And the goods guys are like totally fusing too. Radical!” /guitar riff in the background

Jaken.6801:

Chak
Yes, near the laboratory. What stops new Chaks from getting back into it? They managed it the first time and seeing how the thing is busted I dont think the defensemechanisms are a big hindrance anymore.

You should play the TD meta events, specifically the one in Rata Novus. minor spoiler following There you help a OoW Agent (I think Zildi was her name) to get into Rata Novus and take control of it’s golems. So the city is secured by the pact and mostly kept free of chak, that includes Taimi’s location, the hidden laboratory.

Seeing there is much unclear, I think it would be cool if we could get some of the writing team to do an AMA thread. I think we could need some clarification on some of HoT stuff and maybe hear the writers’ reasoning behind some decisions.

I somehow knew this would happen, since it was revealed Sylvari are dragon minions. Now everyone tries to prove that some random other race are dragon minions too, if it makes any sense or not doesn’t matter.
You heard it here first: Centaur are dragon minions because I never saw a corrupted one! They are minions of the Leg Dragon, that’s why they have so many legs! And my human character can still outrun them!