Guild Wars 2

Haldunius.7864:

That [OG] guy in the last clip was amazing. I think it took half our server to kill him.

You definitely summed this up!

Q: So how many BT does it take to kill on person?
A: A whole zerg.

Glad we can both agree on something.

Quenta.2978:

Watch the most Amazing Guild Wars 2 WvW Fights In The History Of Guild Wars 2.

This was your best video.

runeblade.7514:

Bunzy.8674:

Can you link me these 5v30+ videos. I will be counting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-919RMwyfnk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ClIzBWTVIPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MKNsSzZBag

I don’t feel like venturing to the deepest part of youtube to find more of these. I just wish Youtube clean out beta videos that no one cares about right now.

In none of them videos is there 30+ enemies. I think you should count them.

Jerks.3172:

Bunzy.8674:

saiyr.3071:

dreztina.4820:

Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the culling, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the culling around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes.

You’re fat.

I am that ally. So best you hold your tongue.

So.. Your saying your culling, no wonder everyone hates you.

Exactly.. understand one day you will.

Can you link me these 5v30+ videos. I will be counting.

saiyr.3071:

dreztina.4820:

Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the culling, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the culling around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes.

You’re fat.

I am that ally. So best you hold your tongue.

ViperWire.4261:

Haldunius.7864:

Viperwire, any chance for score or map update?

Nuuuuuu I was sleeping

Incase you didn’t know MAG is back in T3 for next week at this point in time.

Kyto.4269:

Bunzy.8674:

Dragin.4520:

Q: So how many BT does it take to kill on person?
A: A whole zerg.

This is funny cause it’s true.

I don’t run forums often so I didn’t understand why OG had a bad rep and why the dislike towards them, when the majority of them have been decent people….NOW I see the reason why. =X

You dislike someone for telling the truth?
I will call it how I see it.
Always have done.
Always will.

WIGZ.8245:

Posting because the JP’s have an impact on the score. They are clearly an objective.

I think everyone should go in to the EB JP more often tbh, not enough people to kill.

Maniac.5163:

Bunzy.8674:

My highlight from yesterday was camping the EB JP with 5 people and having FA send 30+ because they were unable to kill us. Unluckily for you guys OG had quite a few online so we were about to get about 13-15 and come back and kill at 30+ of you.
Then you never came back
Also killed an ANET thief

Bunzy, you are beginning to make me feel so e-inadequate it’s actually quite alluring. Will you be my valentine?

Already got [Lani]…

sorry to disappoint!

My highlight from yesterday was camping the EB JP with 5 people and having FA send 30+ because they were unable to kill us. Unluckily for you guys OG had quite a few online so we were about to get about 13-15 and come back and kill at 30+ of you.
Then you never came back
Also killed an ANET thief

Teamkiller.4315:

Bunzy.8674:

Whichever guild I am in.

My entire server tells me that AoN is loads better than your guild.

No, I’m not from dragonbrand, but I am in t3.

It’s hard to find out who is better when they won’t fight us.

Whichever guild I am in.

Dragin.4520:

Q: So how many BT does it take to kill on person?
A: A whole zerg.

This is funny cause it’s true.

Enenion.8127:

I don’t think they should outright remove the consumables, rather they need to add an actual cooldown to consumables while in combat. I don’t care if someone tosses a Gear/Spikeroot fruit at me to stun me for a few seconds. The Golem in a Box is also fine. What is not fine is that they can throw one every second 250 times in a row. Add a 20 second global cooldown for all consumables while in combat and suddenly the items that were considered OP become bits of extra flavor.

They would still give an unfair advantage to whoever was using them. This wouldn’t solve anything.

osif.8673:

Aren’t queue times pretty bad on those servers sometimes?

I have only ever had a que once, in the past 2-3 months.

Maguuma and Ehmry Bay have the most roamers. You should move to a server facing them.

Puddin Cheeks.8539:

style.6173:

These do not really bother me at all. None of them are game changers.

You obviously haven’t enjoyed the hilarity of the gear 3!

Yes this exactly!
It definitely needs a hotfix!

Chaba.5410:

Nothing wrong with waiting for JP portals… How do you know that employee didn’t design or test that JP and is bored to death of it? Just sayin’… Anet employees don’t really reflect upon a server anyway.

He is probably testing how OP mesmer portals are.

shortcake.8659:

They’ll be gone soon enough. Golems got removed for a good reason, all these will be removed for the same.

Soon.. your soon is very different from my soon. They will take weeks to remove.
Since ANET isn’t doing anything I am currently stacking up on every consumable.
If you can’t beat them.. join them.

I am practiced with daggers not words. Perhaps a duel will explain where words fail.

Dee Jay.2460:

Well Skale Venom is hardly OP, but Gear is.

I think it’s a side-effect of WvW using the PvE rule-set. Everything that isn’t specifically banned from working, works.

You should duel someone 1v1 and let them use skale venom while you don’t. You notice the difference pretty easily.

pixieish.9627:

Bunzy.8674:

It’s probably because we beat everyone and they attempt to kill us and end up getting owned in the process.. thus starting an all out war.

Is that what happened with Kaineng then… huh.

Yeah I admit that was Maguumas fault

Remove every consumable from WvW to stop people finding and using the next OP thing they can find.

Your patches are too slow to remove each “OP” one.
People are finding and using and the next one while the old one stills exists.

Just get rid of them all.
Incase you didn’t know since these are a list of some that are a major problem atm.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Skale_Venom_%28consumable%29
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gear_%28consumable%29
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spikeroot_Fruit

EDIT: When I say consumables I don’t mean food and nourishment. Just ones that can be used as weapons.

Rhoto.8791:

So how has the roaming scene been for this match up so far?.. haven’t been able to get out at all due to studying.

PRO and HELL always give some fun fights.

I like AoN and have no problems with them.

We did try to set up a 5v5 however they declined, but I am sure they have their reasons.

Looking forward to fighting Ebay again
You should note that our fight nights have been turning into brawls lately lol
So be sure to bring some back up!

Bit.2519:

We only dueled once? Unless you mean the aftermath, which was just all around crazyness.

Crazy but fun none the less.
Are you going to upload “our” duel to your youtube?

Bit.2519:

Still flagged you once <3

Can I have the footage ?
Both fights if you can.

JPSnow.8296:

I would love to be playing right now so u can show OG and other guilds on mag there not the only ones with skill. In fact I’ve only faught about 4 OG players 2 weeks ago (away for this weeks match) and had no problem killing them. If any one wants to dual me when I come back love challenge win or lose. Losing only makes you better hit me up and if I’m not still in same tier we can go to empty spvp map and battle it out

Hit me up in game and we can try sort something out.

EDIT: I just reread and noticed you are away for this weeks matchup? Nvm then.

HermanVanderpoop.6743:

Bunzy.8674:

Are there any guilds worth note in this match up?

Black Talons seems to still be pretty good. Don’t know if you have seen them, but they move like a bot train and kill like a pain train.

I saw them earlier in their group of 30 attacking anyone they outnumber.

Are there any guilds worth note in this match up?

I find it hilarious that GW2 AoE encourages people to stack on top of each other. It is meant to force people to spread out but does exactly the opposite. (It’s almost comical)

kerona.3465:

No Bunzy yet? He on break?

Unless you call out my guild or myself there is no reason to post.

Dabrixmgp.4758:

Bunzy.8674:

As it stands at the moment all groups have to do is stack on each other.

If they do this they are just dumb. A single Warrior Hammer train group will kill them all.

Can you get a video of this? Id love to see it.

Ninein.4782:

Cool 2 threads to double the post count. Smart.

It’s a backup for when one gets locked.

You guys are still talking about me.. that is cute yet creepy.

Ninya.3942:

Pinko.2076:

Warlord Lu Bu.7905:

I missed fight club, so how was it? My guildies said it was boring, but surely something set up 24 hours in advance wasn’t boring, really?

Anyone other than the usual 4 or 5 people who show up, want to give fair duels a try just mail me ingame. Win or lose, you can learn a lot. Very good practice in the event you lag a little and stray from your zergball. shock

30-40 RE came and stood in a line. We tried prodding them with pulls to come fight at the other 3-4 spots, but they wouldn’t bite. After being pulled a couple dozen times, they started attacking, so we started killing. It turned into a full brawl until RE took their ball and went home.

Troll attempt but whatevs. We had about 20 total and only 7-8 would line up. Both times we set up fight club (our way) de®p and co would interrupt.

The easiest way to get people to move to one of the other areas is to point and move there…not anger the whole group by bombing them. After most of our guild got tired of de®p trying to ruin everything I stuck around fighting some duels, but some OG ele kept attacking random RE players without trying to start a duel normally. Got annoyed after fighting him for 5 min and left. Real classy guys…

Shout out to triggerless and the others who didn’t want everything to fall into chaos.

Edit- apparently de®p is now censored on here…

Hey I was that random OG ele that kept attacking RE with my lightning whip. It was my tactic to get easy duels without waiting in line, if you attack someone with your 1 long enough they are bound to fight back. You should note that I never stomped any of them once they were downed it was just a fun thing.

Hammerhorn.1347:

With culling in its current state if aoe had no limit youd see alot more QQ in the forums because people do not see the animation for any of these AOEs when its 30 vs 30 , if anything take away downed state because thats the major reason for a need of aoes hitting all players.

You can decrease the damage of AoEs and still increase how many people it hits.

Is there any news about whether you guys are considering increasing or removing the AoE limit? As it stands at the moment all groups have to do is stack on each other.

That brawl at fight club was actually really fun

it happened to me once.. definitely needs to be fixed.

Dustwatch.6723:

Thanks so much. Very helpful to know. And you DONT wanna be the one asking in-game, lol.

Why don’t you wanna ask in game?

The positives: N/A

The negatives: Able to abuse culling, allow people to skip jumping puzzles, allow people to get keeps/towers without breaking any gates or walls.

So my question to you is…

What positives does the mesmer portal have?

Acelerion.6820:

Agreed. Combo fields could use a rework in general. In many cases what you lose in positioning or ability opportunity cost outweighs benefits.

Something definitely needs to be done.

Very nice video!

If any d/d ele thinks they can easily beat a ranger… you should msg karlesi in game and set up a duel. He is the best ranger i have seen and often beats dd eles easily.

CrimsonHandHiro.9574:

I… I… agree with Bunzy.

(not about combo fields, that’s ridiculous)

You don’t agree that larger groups are able to stack ridiculous amounts of boons due to all the combo fields going off?

After a recent match up against a certain server it has come to my attention that there is a lot of issues that need to be addressed in regards to small numbers vs large numbers scale fighting. I am going to talk about the issues that make it extremely harder then it should be for smaller groups to defeat larger groups no matter how much skill is involved.

#1: The biggest issue at the moment is the fact there is an AoE limit of 5 people. This gives a major advantage to the larger side as they do more damage to your team members then you can to theirs for example.

Example: If a 5v20 were to take place and each person stacked on each other.
The 5 man team would only be damaging 25% of their team while the 20 man would be damaging the 5 man team 100%.

Fix/Suggestion: The AoE limit must be increased (To what number I am still unsure of this but I would personally go with 10-20).

#2/#3: These issues coincide with each other and they are known as the downed state and revive mechanic (in combat). The downed state is still to strong when it comes to being outnumbered in fights. The damage and health of people in the downed state needs to be reduced as they deal too much damage and can tank for too long considering they are meant to be downed .The revive mechanic needs to some major work. The fact multiple people can resurrect someone faster then you can channel downed is a problem.

Example: Fighting in a 3v1 if the 3 people know how to resurrect you will never be able to defeat these odds due the fact they can resurrect someone quicker then you can down them.

Fix/Suggestion: I would decease the damage and health people have in the downed state by ~50%. This would make it feel like they were truly downed and not just giving a second life. The revive mechanic needs to be changed for when in combat, I would suggest you only let 1 person resurrect each player while in combat.

#4: When looking at combo fields this one is pretty obvious this favors whoever has the most numbers are they can stack faster/longer and more often. This allows them to have alot more boons then you and gives them another advantage on top of the numbers one.

Example: A group of 20 people will be able to stack up to 25 might almost instantly and be able to retain it for most of the fight. Where as a smaller group (say 5)will have trouble reaching that many stacks and it will often fall off much quicker. Also during the fight people will often use combo fields without realizing it, and of course the more people you have means the more likely you are to have lots of combo fields to use.

Fix/Suggestion: Due to the fact this would be hard to maintain to only a certain numbers of people I would say you have to remove sharing combo fields and only let people use their own.

Thank you for reading!
Let me know your thoughts below.

WIGZ.8245:

Bunzy.8674:

etrigan.4213:

Couple points I’d like to make on any misconceptions about FA:

1. Only 1 guild on FA right now truly zergs, and that is GODS. And trust me when we zerg you’ll know it(ie. EB this past sunday afternoon, sorry DB you were still in firing range of us at that point). Just an FYI we have only truly zerged once this entire matchup so far. We usually do it a bit more…

Sometimes we have enough to do 2 or 3 groups of 10-20 on the same map, not counting any other “special forces” type group we may have going. Tough luck if we appear on your map.

You’re lucky this week that most of the guild has been leveling their alts in WvW.

2. A guild like RET may get 20+ players on at once, but most of the time they run 10-15. And when they do, you’ll know it. I saw RET defend SMC the other day and push through a larger MAG force that was on the walls. Should have been a pitched battle…as both forces saw each other. Nope RET gut punched through them and that was it.

3. BT…welp you can watch their weekly recap videos and decide yourself what kind of work they do. I will say this: They will farm you regardless of what you think of them. In regards to the video…looks like the forces were equal to me. Its more telling that both MAG and DB allowed BT to flank them like 3 times. Smart commanders like Quenta can almost always count on the opponents not realizing whats going on most of the time. Perhaps you should think about getting on Quenta’s level instead of complaining about it.

4. We have several other EST guilds that are doing awesome. HOPE has recruited some, and they can roll with 10-20 on any given night…but they aren’t on every night. They are busy doing awesome stuff like dungeon races.

5. I can’t speak for our oceanics, as some of them are still pretty new to me. I do know that they are AWESOME.

6. If you want to 5vs5, head on over to sPVP. FA’s WvW guilds are too busy taking and/or defending stuff or wiping you.

We wiped RETS 15 man the other day actually.

After taking 5 minutes to go through this thread. You are officially a forum warrior. There’s absolutely no reason to substantiate even responding to any of your posts. You are exactly the type of troll that lurks under this bridge we call the forums. Bring it on the battlefield where it counts.

You are more then welcome to duel me.