Guild Wars 2

ButterOfDeath.2873:

Drakkon.4782:

ButterOfDeath.2873:

On the verge of a breakthrough!
Really,does that flip only me?
Whenever you greet an Asura,you’ll either hear “Excelsior!” or that phrase…
Being succesfull seems to be an asura’s given x)

What a bookah. Of course we’re all on the verge of a breakthrough! We’re all geniuses (though, I’m by far more gifted than anyone else, except maybe Zojja…) compared to your bookah, and it is only to be expected that we will make a new breakthrough at any moment. I don’t expect you to understand (anything), so it comes as no surprise to me that you aren’t capable of grasping this elementary concept.

By the way, “Excelsior” does not mean what you appear to think it means. It is simply an expression of exuberance for learning. Please adjust your own reactions accordingly.

Hmm… Perhaps I should schedule time to explore new methods of educating bookah, but I’m not certain that would be a valuable use of my time. In fact, I’m almost certain it wouldn’t be.

I guess an “of course because all Asurans are geniuses!” would suffice as explanation…without all that effort to make an exuberant message x)

Ask twenty Asura only one out of them will give you a simplistic answer. I’m probably the one in this case.

You are terribly wrong Kittyhat. If you want a fight ask a Norn or a Charr. If you want problems ask a human. If you want something built that never been done before ask an Asura and hope they find the idea interesting enough. If not go ask a Charr next. If you just want company when you go explore this new cave you found ask a Sylvari.

True I found Varesh Ossa more loathable than Zhaitan’s lieutenants, but then again I always pity the undead as they just following orders. but I think we sort of derailed this from the topic.

I think the reason Zhaitan failed wasn’t because of the reasons Teulius stated but because he made the same mistake as Palawa Joko did originally. He underestimated his opponent and didn’t exploit his forces advantages over his opponents as much as he should.

Arachnia is the name of a dead spider god which is said to be older than Abaddon or the other human god. Since it is unimplemented content it is most likely non-canonical data that simply weren’t deleted from the gw.dat file.

From what I could gleam from the Guild Wars article on the matter and Abaddon, I would say Arachnia was supposed to be the depose god that Abaddon gained his power directly from. If that true then it would suggest that the Human Gods each gained their power after deposing of the gods of these insectoid beings, much in the way Kormir gained her god-like powers after Abaddon’s defeat.

We could see this implemented later on, perhaps as the Durmand Priory delve deeper into the age the Elder Dragons were last active.

Aaron Ansari You not missing anything, lore wise, by not playing WoW. The ‘lore’ of WoW is so contradicting that it just feels like each ‘addition’ is Blizzard stopping and going ‘what popular thing can we throw into the game this time.’

Anyways I think the Elder Dragons aren’t suppose to be antagonists/villains just a ominous threat to the world, sort of like how a meteor bound for Earth wouldn’t be a antagonist/villain for us just something we need to handle.

I noticed if you look at things from Teulius perspective than Abaddon of Guild Wars 1 has a similar ‘problem’ as he never shown given a ‘personal/individual’ reason for us to face him. In fact many MMO villains have this problem as well, Arthas included amongst the list, as does a few villains of single player games.

After reading the comments I have developed my own theory for why the Asura don’t try to rule the world. The major reason is that such a task would divert resources and time that could be spent on personal projects, as a few mentioned. Another reason is that do the other races really have anything the Asura actually want? Physical traits, such as strength or speed, could be easily duplicated in Golems. In terms of technology the Asura could probably duplicate or surpass the other races level of technology by mere observation. The Asura might say they want to rule the world but in reality they just boasting their superiority in a way that only makes sense in their culture.

Out of the races the Charr would be the least likely the Inquest, or any Asura faction, would strike via the Asura Gate network. The Gate Technician expresses concern about the Charr’s ‘failsafe’ being volatile.

Also the Asura Gates that connect to the capital cities are found in Lion’s Arch. An army of Asura would be highly noticeable by the Lionguard who will definitely want to know the purpose of such a large movement of golems and Asura Golemancer/handlers.

How do we know Zhaitan didn’t murder his father? We don’t know what or whom made the Elder Dragons. It highly possible some other creature or force created them, perhaps along the Tyrian Gods, and the Elder Dragons destroyed this mysterious being or thing in the distant past. Also none of the reasons you gave actually give any of the players, including the Forsaken players, a reason to fight the Lich King on a personal level. Ok he betrayed his death knights and sent them to their possible death. Don’t the death knights do the exact same thing with their Ghouls? So he made the Forsaken’s leader, along with probably most of the Forsaken themselves, into undead personally. Don’t they do this to their enemies now as well? His back story is interesting, to say the least, but can’t be compared to the Elder Dragons due to the fact he is human and they aren’t. The Elder Dragons are presented as this mysterious force that isn’t very well understood. It can be taken in any direction, perhaps them being depicted as the Great Old Ones of Lovecraft. The Lich King is depicted as your typical spoiled monarchical brat who allowed his ego to lead to his easy corruption. He’s no more interesting than Zhaitan in the villain department using your logic. Both he and Zhaitan plan to conquer the world using their undead forces. Both he and Zhaitan send their lieutenants to fight the races of their respective world. Both are fought in their relative headquarters. Both are slain by the united forces of their respective worlds. The only difference is that Arthas is depicted as one of those pitiful weak villains who had a ‘redeemable’ quality at the end with his father’s spirit appearing before him, probably to try and instill some guilt at his fate in the players. Zhaitan was shown to be similar to a destructive of storm.

It could be their ego talking. Asura don’t like to admit failure or lack of innovation, so it possible that a little lie they tell everyone to try and sound important.

There is a flaw in your argument however. You use wow as an example of character development, specifically the Lich King. The Lich King actually is no different from Zhaitan, albeit he talked but motives for fighting him were the same. He was just a bad ‘storm’ that the world of Azeroth had to fight in order to prevent untold devastation, much like when Deathwing returned for the fourth or fifth time.

Now the point about Joker is actually an interesting one. Joker is insane to the extreme, yet aside from that he doesn’t have much character to him. Same with Final Fantasy 6 Kefka (I’m probably spelling that wrong since I never can get it right on the first try) he was one of my favorite villains but when examined more closely he doesn’t have much character to begin with.

As for Stooperdale’s suggestion, I think they avoided that intentionally so that they wouldn’t accidentally copy Blizzard with the whole deathwing battle. Although they could of have the second or third stage be where the players do something similar to what Snaff did, or protect Zojja while she attempts the feat, instead of an airship chase.

Mine’s an Elementalist named Ragnazoth Volcanite. The reason I gave him a surname is because people I know often say I’m ‘odd’ or random which basically eccentric is another word for. Also thought it would help if someone asked why I didn’t try to emulate the Asura’s normal vocabulary.

The reason why people have a hard time accepting Zhaitan is dead is simply because his sphere of influence is necromantic magic. while I accept he is dead, I am curious could he be resurrected in some manner or form? I could see a very derange Necromancer attempting to raise the mighty dragon as a powerful weapon, probably hoping to point him at another Elder Dragon, in he not so distant future.

I’ve got this problem after updating my graphic card drivers after the halloween even and haven’t been able to get on since then. Saw this thread and tried deleting the local dat and repair. It worked thanks for the help now I can get back to playing.