Guild Wars 2

Millssta.9064:

Darknicrofia.2604:

they ARE being used for matchmaking

you’re getting matched with teammates of similar mmr, you’re simply not getting matched against opponents of similar mmr now.

Total BS, I made it to Ruby last season, why I’m I playing against Primordial Legends then…? and one of those was a Pro League player..

So yeh sure similar MMR

MMR isn’t used as factor (or primary factor) when determining your opponents, pip range is.

MMR is used as the main factor for your teammates, aka if you’re a good player, you get good teammates, if you’re a bad player you get bad teammates.

Unfortunately, the side effect of this in the first few days of the season is bad players (such as yourself) getting farmed by good players until they move out of your pip range (10+ pips more than you have)

vulneraria.4865:

yes if you start to lose this system bring you to probably lose more.
every member of team have similar mmr but the system select a random team for the matchmaking.
so if you start to lose mmr you probably lose again and again…till all this team with 0 mmr are left at zero pips, then you will have a fair match, you win (yes 2 pips!) and then at 2 pips you gonna probably lose again
they need to remove random team matchmaking, they need to have similar mrr avarage as possible.

no, that would just go back to the season 1 model of bad players being able to advance to legendary because they’re farming worse players.

at least this new system ensures that the people that are legendary/diamond actually deserve it.

velmeister.4187:

Darknicrofia.2604:

velmeister.4187:

Vargamonth.2047:

kuroro.1379:

I’m really keen to see an example of a person who has 15 winning streak and is in solo queue.

I have won the 10 games I’ve played, all of them running alts for the league profession achievements.
The opposing team reached 400 once, and 300 in other two games. 4 times they didn’t even score 100 points (one of them being a 500-0).
I’ve had the easiest games at the end of amber / beginning of emerald, probably because that’s the point where all the people who cross amber through grind against low winrates gets stuck.
And I’m not even close to ESL level.

A screenshot showing the wins from the Season 2 PvP league menu that proves your statement. Or it did not happen.

k

Were you grouped? Solo? What does that list show?

full solo que, having 10+ win streaks isn’t that uncommon, in fact most of the teammates i’ve had after leaving amber were on 10 game win streaks.

right now match making is grouping high mmr players together and vice versa (low mmr players are grouped up with similar low mmr players) but are playing against each other because both groups are within pip range, resulting in blowouts and huge streaks.

wait until the first bracket of players reach sapphire/ruby and the streakiness should be a bit less wonky.

um, the more you lose, the lower your mmr gets and the worse teammates you’ll get.

and since the higher ranked players are still within pip range of opponent searching, you’ll get steamrolled even further.

maybe you’re getting horrible teammates because you’re also a horrible teammate?

velmeister.4187:

Vargamonth.2047:

kuroro.1379:

I’m really keen to see an example of a person who has 15 winning streak and is in solo queue.

I have won the 10 games I’ve played, all of them running alts for the league profession achievements.
The opposing team reached 400 once, and 300 in other two games. 4 times they didn’t even score 100 points (one of them being a 500-0).
I’ve had the easiest games at the end of amber / beginning of emerald, probably because that’s the point where all the people who cross amber through grind against low winrates gets stuck.
And I’m not even close to ESL level.

A screenshot showing the wins from the Season 2 PvP league menu that proves your statement. Or it did not happen.

k

they ARE being used for matchmaking

you’re getting matched with teammates of similar mmr, you’re simply not getting matched against opponents of similar mmr now.

why would anyone want to skip amber? those dyes and pvp tickets for crossing divisions/tier are worth money :P

yea its going alright

kuroro.1379:

I’m really keen to see an example of a person who has 15 winning streak and is in solo queue.

I have an 11 game winning streak as a solo que right now and it isn’t that uncommon, the people in my team have mostly had 5-10 game winning streaks from what I’ve asked at the start of most matches.

the new match making isn’t luck based, it is grouping you with teammates of similar MMR or “skill” to you while only checking pip range for opponents.

so the people experiencing long losing streaks likely had low mmr and are being matched against simply better players.

sad to say that if you’re having 25 game losses in amber division right now, after brute forcing your way to higher divisions, you’re likely not going to have any easier of a time.

icy.9250:

I have to totally agree with MadRabbit — this “update” is a load of crap:

Daily Achievement Adjustment
Daily PvP Capture and Daily PvP Defender have been removed from the daily rotation.
Daily Top Stats and Daily PvP Matches Played in Unranked or Ranked Arena have been added to the daily rotation.

When I’m good and ready, I’ll do your ranked PvP. But why destroy the awesome custom daily maps community with LOFT, UGF, MAD and others?

I refuse to draw a stupid roman numeral over my head just because some stats guy wanted 4min less waiting time.

Imagine that, you’d have to actually…pvp in a pvp zone to get…daily PVP rewards?

Will the PvE people who care nothing for pvp mind if I can get my hands on HoT legendaries by doing only pvp and want nothing to do with grinding for leyline sparks and amalgamated gemstones?

Anomaly.7612:

I still don’t understand how if you’re a “good” player, you’ll just go on a winning streak. How are all these “good” players carrying their team if, like you say, it’s a mish mash of terrible and good?

idk? its quite easy to carry ambers if the rest of your team isn’t completely overmatched by the other team like if say every other person in the match is at a skill level 2 and you’re at a level 6.

split far at start and win the 1v1, thats a 20-30 point advantage in the early game right there and you’ve already caused a snowball staggering effect to start match for your team.

Anomaly.7612:

Keira Ferland.5619:

Anomaly.7612:

This post just drools with arrogance. 10/10.

He does bring up a good point with subpar players being able to reach legendary by playing only against other subpar players.

Yeah, I agree with that, but as it stands now, it seems like the only way to get out of amber is to either be in a premade on TS, or just be a soloQ hero who can magically carry the team on their winged steeds. No thanks.

what? I got out of amber in 9 games as a solo que, the first 7 of which were played on mesmer to finish out the meta achievement.

maybe use a better build or class first?

InsidiousWaffle.7086:

I agree with the idea of guardian buffs, and im glad that these changes seem agreeable. Its just incredibly frustrating that a guardian can just sit on point and kill me over and over, regardless of my own skill, simply because im playing a thief.

if you see a guardian sitting on an empty node, you don’t HAVE TO immediately rush in, your team isn’t going to immediately lose the match if you don’t charge in RIGHT THE EFF NOW.

a thief’s ability to 1v1 a DH with all cooldowns sitting on traps isn’t and shouldn’t be the determining factor on if DH needs fixing or not.

no, a guardian is not in a good spot, core guardian has some of the most useless weapons and traits in the game (not named Warrior) and people have been using the same iteration of meditations since the game’s launch over 3 years ago while consecrations, signets and spirit weapons are obsolete.

“A DH I know from fighting previously is full traps is sitting by himself on a node, by god I MUST rush in immediately and get 100-0’d or else we’ll lose the match instantly. And then I’ll go complain on the forums that landmines are OP, I should be able to knowingly walk into them and walk out unscathed”

scrapper hammer skills are pretty much zero risk, high reward since nearly the entire kitten skill bar is filled with offensive powerhouse abilities that also offer insane defensive abilities (projectile reflection on demand, triple leap finisher, lightning field that stuns etc).

no other weapon set in the entire game has what scrapper hammer has. you’ll almost never even get punished for spamming hammer skills on cooldown regardless of situation, they’ll simply be slightly less effective.

Liewec.2896:

Darknicrofia.2604:

if you’re losing to a DH that’s using 3 or 4 traps on his bar, it really is a L2P issue.

yeah, how are people having trouble counterplaying invisible traps waiting to deal 100%-dead unblockable dmg in 2 seconds combined with daze, slow, immobilize and knockdown?

its so easy to counterplay!

only 1 trap has no cast time, that being test of faith, you’re never going to get hit by 4 traps at once unless you blindly jump on a node where a guardian is camping.

here’s a hint: if you see a guardian camping an empty node and you know for a fact he’s running full traps, ignore him and help out your team 5v4 the rest of his team.

if you’re losing to a DH that’s using 3 or 4 traps on his bar, it really is a L2P issue.

DH is just the fancy icing on an extremely poorly constructed cake.

Fix the cake, aka base guardian traits and weapon skills.

Vermillion vs Abjured

I’m much more in favor of the current spirit weapons all being removed and reworked in a future elite spec.

Doing so would also free up another grandmaster trait slot where something actually useful could take its place

Eurantien.4632:

Without these pets druid would never kill anything unfortunately.

a bunker guardian never could kill anything either, so why should a healing elite spec that tanks/bunkers better than the guardian get so much damage?

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

oh i tought we’d all start at amber again.

you do…

no, spirit weapons in their current iteration is NOT fine and never WILL be fine.

they’ll either remain worthless or buffed to such ridiculous levels that they’re essentially turret engies 2.0

having AI play for you is bad game design. spirit weapons in GW1 enhanced your attacks with different functionality (giving AoE damage, armor piercing, life steal etc)

Shiro’s heal is a step in the right direction of what spirit weapons should do.

reaper’s so called lack of mobility is so blown out of proportion

why do you need so much mobility when you kitten out perma chill? slowing everything else down by 66% isn’t enough yet?

Susu.9261:

I have seen about 3 non-DH guardians in structured PvP in months.
This alone should be a clue.

funny, because I’ve seen like 3 DHs through most of diamond/legendary tier matches all of last season.

and after all those buffs, DHs still aren’t used in pro league.

Salamander.2504:

jesus has good retal uptime?

you trying to saying jesus christ can’t hit a curve ball??

win streak bonus starts at 3 wins in a row…

what do you want, solo que and start getting the bonus when you hit 250 points at game 1?

never accuracy sigils, Force/Air/Fire is always better.

What’s there to whiteknight? DH is a hotjoin stomping spec that was as well represented in the pro league as Warriors/Berserkers were.

This isn’t even close to mesmers telling ppl “L2P” after the june 23rd patch, this is based on actual live evidence.

If you’re getting stomped by DHs, learn to play better.

did you just say honor is more powerful than virtues trait?

what the hell is the point of blocks if everything in the entire game becomes unblockable?

Timston.1976:

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

Timston.1976:

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

As someone who has played guardian since head start beta I would gladly take a slight increase on true shot Cd (to say 6 seconds) if they did the following.

1: Make it no longer root you when cast

2: Slightly decrease the cast time of the auto attack (to 1/2 second)

3: Give true shot some type of secondary effect. (weakness, blind, cripple etc.. something)

4: Change the number 5 to a cone shaped attack that immobilizes (2 seconds) & bleeds (3 stacks for 10 seconds) all enemies it strikes with a 3/4 second cast time & 24 second CD.

Also good but longbow 5 should be a conal immob with high base damage, bleed is usless

Eh frankly I’d prefer a lower base damage + bleeds with really good scaling on the damage.

That along with various trait changes could end up making carrion, sage or merc very good on a guardian. 9the main thing holding back condi guardians after all is a lack of other damaging conditions besides burns.)

But we all know anet won’t take that much time for the condis. Good idea though. If we have more skills than that. But if guardian gets access to poison I will be so done

the next guardian elite spec is totally gonna be a condi spec, calling my shot now.

because giving guardians actually useful combo fields is forbidden.

because retreat is a terrible skill on a way too long of a cooldown?

just because it gives 20 secs of aegis doesn’t mean you have a guaranteed 20% damage boost “at will”.

I’d much rather retreat be on a 10 sec CD while giving only 4 secs of aegis and swiftness.

Aggrostemma.1703:

Glacial Heart trait: -20% CD reduction, your critical hits chill enemies, your Symbol of Protection is a Fire Field….

why would a trait called Glacial Heart ever drop fire fields? Ice fields would be more thematic and also more useful

FJSAMA.2867:

Mirror Blade: same cast time, have half of projectile speed, have double the CD, each damage bounce is 25% of trueshot damage and many of you defending true shot complained about mesmer burst (resulting in this skill nerf by 1 bounce).
At close range mirror blade could hit the same target 3 times. Post nerf can hit 2 times only resulting in 1.4 dmg coeficient (2.1 before nerf) vs 2.5 from trueshot (can still pierce and hit more targets without loosing dmg, and this cannot happen with mirror blade).
Conclusion: mirror blade was nerfed, true shot not.

Just saying….

I would swap skills on the DH longbow for the Mesmer GS in a heartbeat for guardian (minus the clones that we can’t shatter, turn those to say…spirit weapons that we can manually activate)

why drop valor when smite condi (and by extension, the traited heals) were just buffed by 100%?

shouts are pretty terrible w/o AH, they’re also more boon fodder for necros to corrupt.

Rezzet.3614:

Kuya.6495:

It’s hard to justify complaining about true shot when the tell for it is pretty obvious and it carries no special particle effects that can obscure what the DH is doing.

He’s falling on his knees and he’s charging. That means it’s time to dodge and or pop a block.

warriors have a skill that does exactly the same and yet it requires 3 adrenaline bars filled and has a 15 second cooldown so what exactly justifies true shot having a 4 second cooldown ?

because the rest of the longbow skill bar is god awful and our traited stunbreaker instant cast 65 second cooldown virtue can somehow be interrupted?

because DH longbow is an absolute kitten of a weapon without true shot

but for real

rune of the scrapper.

3k armor on top of 7% less damage taken (on top of 10% from hunter’s fortification)

give it a try.

I wouldn’t run shelter anymore, between shock aura, necros, thief venoms, you run the risk of getting your heal interrupted too much.

Purification is better by far.

Indure.5410:

Is sigil of energy still good after the change?

not at all, just another boon fodder for the necros to corrupt, you’re better off using another on swap or on crit sigils.

all of our virtues go on full cooldown if interrupted

have you given the combination of Scrapper runes and Hunter’s Fortification a try yet?

In my testing, I’ve been using a build that is pretty similar to yours, but LB/GS for higher damage (as a counter to thieves, GS2 is still king). The combination of Paladin’s amulet, scrapper runes and Hunter’s fortification has turned the mediguard into a more than competent bruiser with the inflated sustain.

sure, i’ll get right on the movement for guardians to start using staff/staff and no armor/runes

your self heal doesn’t get buffed, it only affects how much you heal your allies by I believe.