Guild Wars 2

But yeah to answer your question barring the fact that personal story is a disaster, I chose the Durmand Priory because I really like the idea of being a scholar. My character is an Asura. I strive for knowledge and wisdom.

You mean personal story?

Just lol.

lordkrall.7241:

Darox.8069:

I am afraid I see no PvE content in the February patches.

I see a totally new permanent map. True, it is in WvW, but it is still content and it is still quite a bit of PvE. You claimed that there have been no content patch (which is false nonetheless due to all the temporary content since then) for six months.

You are correct, what I have been saying is erroneous: There has not been content addition since november two years ago. That’s because in the “Fractured” patch they removed more content than they added.

lordkrall.7241:

Darox.8069:

Last “content patch” was 6 months ago, it is knows as the “Fractured” patch. Just writing this word makes me shiver. It is synonym with abuse of power, lies, deception and content removal.

Next patch will be in six months, logically, and it will probably be named “Mutilated”.

My might math might be a bit off, but I am rather sure that February (if we only count permanent content additions) is three months ago, not six. (Fractured wasn’t the last one)

I am afraid I see no PvE content in the February patches.

This is absolutely doable!

I think it will take place next november in the upcoming “Mutilated” fractal patch
They are planning on resetting our fractal levels to 10 because they will introduce a new leaderboard so it’s only fair if we all start on the same level
Also they will remove levels 30+ because they will work on a better scaling system, but heh, new content! They will introduce a new system called Dodelidadoo that paint mobs with primary colors. Everytime you kill a colored mob you steal its color. Then you can mix and match colors for great great fun!! The BLTC will introduce new emotes (buy with gems) related to colors. Fun! Merry!
New exclusive content!! The tower of nightmares comes back as a new exclusive never-seen-before fractal level! With new exclusive rewards!!
Talking about rewards, the loot tables have been adjusted to give more loot the higher up you go in the levels. True story.
And finally ….

Dredges everywhere!

Gyler.8150:

Whelp, it’s in the dungeon forums, the other dev recycle bin.

Recycle bin is a nice way to call this concentration camp.

Sure why not.

Keyz and I have already recorded coefficients and cast time though. This data is publicly available.

I just wanted to say that this is absolutely doable.

Link for great justice:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/General-Dungeon-Discussion-Thread/first#post3631364

Last “content patch” was 6 months ago, it is knows as the “Fractured” patch. Just writing this word makes me shiver. It is synonym with abuse of power, lies, deception and content removal.

Next patch will be in six months, logically, and it will probably be named “Mutilated”.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I can’t really speak for other people, but I was just curious to see more analysis. I think that was the general consensus, or at least that was the impression I got. Nothing else really came of the thread, though.

Alright ok. It’s just that Guang making claims, saying he has developed on the subject on the DnT forums, while you stating the meta was about to change, made me feel like you had given this extensive thoughts.

I do not know much about the speedrun capabilities of engis, but we can look at burst and sustained dps for now. As far as I am aware of we do not have a data base to work with. We need coefficients, casting times, and feasibility frontiers before we can conclude anything. This is the kind of background work that Keyz and I did for the ele.

At the moment I am working on this using data from the tooltips and some estimations. This is not very accurate. But I have found some interesting results.
At the same time I am in the process of updating my DPS calculator.

Yeah I went on the DnT forums to see that “talk about engis” Guang was claiming to have done. There’s nothing really. He gave a bunch of numbers backed by nothing, and you guys just took them for granted? Guang is known to fail at maths, by the way. If we are going to talk about engis seriously then we need to have a more accurate approach.

So I’ve looked at Guang take of the engi, I think I can come up with something better.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

You can check out the DnT theorycraft board where I posted the exact numbers.

Numbers! I can check that

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

With FGS changes the comp slightly, engie is still in the FGS comp though so it’s not like it affects the core argument. You’d likely be looking at warrior, 2 eles, engineer, then mesmer or guardian for the last slot.

Meanwhile no one bothers to actually try to dispute any of the points or provide an alternative other than “hurr ur build sux i could do so much better”.

So if you think you can do better let’s hear it, otherwise I can just chalk you all up as another of those “LFG 4 more zerk dps war” wannabe meta types.

So in addition to not playing the game you are not reading the posts either?

dlonie.6547:

Don’t remind me…

“The last boss needs to spawn fewer adds. Better just scrap the entire path.”

Q_Q

Fractals have punitive scaling, better delete half of the levels.

You can perma blind the tentacles, for lazy afternoons when you don’t want to touch the dodge key

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

a non-FGS run (which is what I thought we were doing)

Yes yes, LFG 2014 No skip, no zerk, no meta, no FGS, no kills, no lootz!

What’s next? Tonic parade?

For fun?

Advent Leader.1083:

All this is really making my head go in circles. Guang, do you calculate DPS over time and actions that you may do, consistent with attack rotations, or are you averaging and using static chains in doing so?

Guang uses a dps calculator to come up with his madness. Last time I checked it I found an incredible amount of mistakes in both the maths and the data. But the worse is: he makes statements based solely on the results of his calculator. He does not consider combat situations. This is a huge overlook.

For example, guang would tell you that engis can cap vuln for the group so no one else needs to take care of that, therefore the others can focus more on dps.
While this is true in a long term fight, a speedrun is nothing about long term.
In fact, by the time an engi can bring a boss to 25 vuln the boss wil likely be dead. So the actual contribution of the engi is far lower than expected.

And I could come up with many more example about the way he considers mesmers, staff eles, etc. The list is endless.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I guess hendo’s scared, I put up the build and now he’s saying he won’t run it.

So there’s that. Anyone else wants to take a shot at it, feel free.

I respect you for not backing down.

That said, I still want to ask why you haven’t gotten a group together to prove all these naysayers wrong.

That’s because he hardly plays the game. Pretty much everything he does is based on paper. And then as you look closely there are always myriads of mistakes. I am not being sarcastic.

rT plays to be on top of http://gwscr.com/guild-leaderboard, if we were to hear about a way to beat more records we would use it, trust me.

You shall not path

I have been doing some tests.

The devs said that the LH damage will scale with the equipped weapon rarity, not weapon damage. Therefore equipping a staff will not increase the LH damage compared to that with daggers equipped for example. I tested this to be true.

Based on this I am highly confident that the coefficient for a swing (AA1&2) of LH with an exotic weapon equipped is 1.067.

Now the tricky part is testing with an ascended weapon. I am rather confident that a weapon of such rarity increases the damage by 5%, which is coherent with the increase in weapon damage from exotic to ascended.

This bring the total AA chain coefficient from 3.88 with exotics to 4.07 with ascended. If my calculations are correct then conjures have effectively received a damage boost.

Anomaly.7612:

Darox.8069:

If you are not dodging the warriors CC despite their HUGE tells then you are going to have a bad time

Admittedly, I’m not good at dodging their CC’s, and once one hits me, then they can just keep the train up unless I pop armor of earth then /lol at them wasting CD’s.

Try to train for it, it’s not as hard as it sound. Let me give you a few tips:
If it is a Hambow warrior then as soon as you see them switching to hammer you want to be moving sideways a lot. This will make them have a hard time landing their CCs. Then just expect them: the warrior is going to go into some leaping animation, it’s relatively long, if you are waiting for it then you can dodge it easily. The hard part is noticing this in team fights. If you can cripple the warrior then you will have a very easy time. It takes one or two dodges to completely outplay a hambow warrior

If you are not dodging the warriors CC despite their HUGE tells then you are going to have a bad time

DigitalKirin.9714:

I think it would be unfair to have any guild, rT or otherwise, do this all pro bono (especially since nobody in any of those guild actually said they’d do it). If you truly believe that this composition will break a record, I would think you’d be willing to fund the specific builds that would be used to make the run. (Specific runes, etc.)

I hope you have a good insurance policy on the loans you grant!

Don’t you dare suggesting WvW to me

maha.7902:

It’s probably worth remembering that Guang calculates everything in a vacuum and doesn’t have actual speed run experience, hence the bad composition he just posted above.

Also 6u4n6m47h5

I’ve got the popcorn, this is going to be nice!

RoE does not reflect, it blocks.

hendo.1940:

Lilith goes crazy.

Anyway, I’ve got the feeling guang is going to crawl back into his hole, waiting until he thinks we forgot about this and then claiming he won the argument. At least that’s what usually happens.

But every time he resurfaces he is more and more violent. He’s a real disney movie bad guy!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/The-Ascension-Project/first

But people did not show enough interest

maha.7902:

Record a speed kill without fgs, no engi, then record a speed kill again with no fgs but with an engi. There’s no point mentioning that record when it’s done with an overpowered weapon, of course an engi isn’t going to be able to beat that kind of damage, but in a conventional setting, who knows.

Yeah there was the Ascension Challenge for stuff like that but we don’t do that anymore

I just can’t do open world PvE, I’m allergic to it. I’ve had to turn to PvP to get dragonite. But heh I guess that’s a win for Anet: they want us to use as much as the content as possible. That’s cool I guess, this way I can be frustrated by every content possible. Variety is fun.

maha.7902:

hendo.1940:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

deSade.9437:

Well, it’s a comp I adore to use. It’s not like I’m giving a kitten if the superprol33tspeedzrecordz meta changes; if all the characters in your party are built properly and know what to do you complete all runs in more or less the same time with any comp – as long as there’s a parvence of a warrior and maybe an elly.
It’s just some people that are obsessed with having a very specific comp with 300 ellys, thieves and warriors. You don’t need that.

Engie is even better if you’re minmaxing the minutiae precisely because they cover all the bases and give good DPS to boot. A single engie will give you might, vuln, DPS, and stealth by default and he can swap into reflect if necessary, although I’m not totally sold on the effectiveness of said reflects.

Nonetheless they are good in any circumstance because:

1) They are a huge damage boost to pugs due to all the might and vuln, plus their own high personal DPS.
2) They are a decent damage boost to casually-organized groups, because those groups aren’t likely to max vuln on their own.
3) They are a net DPS boost to absolutely minmaxed groups, because they enable the organizer(s) to drop out certain “necessary” utilities for DPS. That also includes stuff like might and vuln stacking, i.e. an ele can drop Weak Spot and go something like 6/2/2/4/0 instead of 5/5/0/4/0 for more DPS.

Which is what I’ve been saying since the start, but you know, HURR HB DMG BESS

Awaiting your sub 7 second lupicus kill with engi(s).

What

rT killed Lupicus in 7 seconds, the fight was highly theorycrafted and nothing was left to chance. No engis were involved. If Guang is right, which is very unlikely considering his pas record, then he should be able to make a sub 7 seconds kill.

Do eles run 5/5/0/4/0 apart with FGS? :o

You guys forgot what I think is our best damage mitigation mechanic: range control.
Most of our attacks have a range which is higher than melee, even on dagger, and we have plenty of movement controls to keep our foes from reaching us.

I got some similar issues yesterday fighting a warrior. I got stuck in place, but fortunately I was able to use burning speed and that debugged movement for me.

Rune of battle?

Here is the thread you are looking for:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/healing-skill-pvp/first#post4019881

If you try to do rotations in PvP you are going to have a bad time

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

Uh, PF gave one extra tick when I wrote the guide. Then it was “fixed” to add 2.

Yep, and you did not even notice it. I had to point it out to you.

Edit: talking about when you first wrote the guide, at that time you didn’t even include meteor shower, yet you claimed that staff ele was top DPS just by spamming lava font and fireball. You talked about it dealing 18k+ dps.
You see I never denied that staff was good. In fact I had been playing staff since the start of the game myself. But you were wrong.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

Also, staff ele IS and always WAS the highest DPS build from the moment they added the ONE extra tick to Persisting Flames.

Yeah except you argued it was the strongest months before that.
And during all those months, Dub and I spent time proving you wrong.
I even had to use your own spreadsheet to show you your many calculation mistakes.

On the topic of staff DPS, let’s give the credit to those who actually deserve it:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Elementalist-Skill-Data/first#post2363920
The post includes a nice piece of stupidity from myself
I think this was the first time a staff rotation had been recorded and published on the forums.

Then we refined our calculations:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Staff-s-greatly-underestimated-damage-9-17/first#post2504554

So that is basically three months before Guang wrote his thread. Oh and in his thread there were so many many mistakes like casting fireball counts as a channeling spell, or swapping attunement would cancel eruption, PF adding only one tick on lava font, etc

Edit: I almost forgot! Guang wasn’t even including Meteor Shower at first, I had to insist for him to finally take it into account haha

Magi.8643:

Zero.6592:

And besides for MAYBE fiery greatsword that trait is completely useless.

For any might stacking Ele this trait is taken for use with Lighting Hammer to increase the number of auto attack we can do for the blast finisher in fire fields.

Conjurer is not necessary for FGS as in most case after your done with its rotation the Boss/Mobs you used it on will be dead.

I think he was speaking in the context of PvP/WvW

Ether renewal cooldown is 15 seconds, but the cast time is around 4 seconds in total, so the real cooldown is 19 seconds.
It can be easily interrupted.
On the other hand the signet is not that strong. Especially when you compare it to the warrior’s healing signet … such a joke.
I like using arcane brilliance, it seems to work fine for my playstyle.

So they told us we would have a CDI, but we are still waiting. In fact I’m not even sure I want it now, because CDI shows two things:
1. They do not listen to us normally. We have to perfectly write structured reports exactly where they want us to do it for that.
2. It has no effect. They have stated many times they do not care that much about feedback on the forums. Do you think they have changed their mind? I don’t.
So I just prefer harassing the devs with our issues every time I get the chance. Sometimes I get punished for that. But at least it helps to relieve the frustration

It does not make sense.
But that’s not the only thing that does not make sens with our class.
We have made tons of suggestion
And the devs have used tons of earplugs to ignore us.
It’s funny!

When I first started playing I was in a guild with a bunch of hardcore gamer friends from the-mmo-which-shall-not-be-named. Many of us were playing ele. We leveled up with staff. Rapidly we started farming CoF. At this point we all had builds like 6/6/0/0/2 zerker. Everything was well in shiny new gw2. But at some point I told my friends that maybe we should try more arcana so that we would not suffer so much from swapping out of fire. Big debates began. I was promoting the use of arcane while they wanted to stick to max damage max risk. I told them this mmo is not trinity-like so we wouldn’t be the caster/damage-dealer, we would have to adapt for more utility and “internal trinity”. Finally I ended up convincing them to switch to 6 in arcane, mainly because EA was op.

And now I feel incredibly stupid looking back because my build is 6/6/0/0/2.

Yes but only if you invest a lot on the stats

No Pulse.2967:

Even bear form is better than the signet in organized groups with multiple eles. Might is wasted, fury is wasted, swiftness is provided from other sources + hylek pot.

Yes but it does not matter: the fact is PS warriors will have perma fury. So Guang was wrong, again.