Guild Wars 2

I don’t need tank much, but my guild missing someone who can tank. And sorry, but other proffesions I have only for ugly pvp daily and as a bank. (If I see someone tell me: "can you relog to tempest..? " I leaving squad instantly) so I can tank only as a engineer

Hi,
I have fast queation. Can engi tanking vg/gor? And which stat you reccomend. My idea is viper gear with some celestial or other toughness gear to have 1401 tough.
Weap: p/p
Utilities: bomb, granade kit, slick shoes, mortar
Traits: explosives, firearms, scrapper

My opinion of cons: cc break(slick shoes), high dmg, group heal(HT), on VG seeker control(glue bomb, big o bomb..)

Thanks for answers

No ascended , only 1 mini.

22insignias

Active dps meter in raid is really bad idea. I remember (lf xx k dps xxx) no. But it is still room for some improovements, learning your class, and crafting your build.

Everyone know that in pvp lobby you have training dummy. So what about make some kind of this in guild hall/your home. (Sure for gems, for this Anet can be rewarded) let me explain this:

To your GH or home you can buy testing arena. It will have various option. Before you enter, you can manage how much hp/toughness will dummy have(not by numbers but easilly: low, medium, high.. You can manage boons what you have(how many might etc) how much vulnerability dummy will have etc… for thoose who want raid enviroment. Next can be that dummy will moving(practice for ele, engi.. With ground targeting)

How we will get our dps? Very easy by time. We can have timer and only complain our times how long we need for kill dummy.
This can help us manage builds for group.

But still I think that argument of that dmg meter make more toxic players is not true, it will only show up unbalance between proffesions.

In my eyes.. Anet boost engi tool kit trait from 20%cd reduce to 33%. This is not big shake but after scrapper nerfs(actually I don’t think that they want boost him) I start thinking about core engi build.

Nerf scrapper is ok, still think that 40sec cd sneak gyro and triple leap add 2 sec cd is not enough. I hope that they improve other gyros (somewhere i saw suggestion to shredder gyro have ability to increase condi duration for other ally by 10-20% and can be overcap) so I hope that annet make big effort to suit proffesions for every game style(pvp, pve, wvw).

Btw: succesfull balance will be: every proffesion in meta A+

Myxam.2790:

Elmo Benchwarmer.3025:

Scrapper destroyed the Engineer identity. It is literally contrary to everything the Engineer used to be.

You, really don’t know what you’re talking about and it hurts my soul to have to reply to you.

The Identity of the class up to this point has been kits — the kittenty knock-off of Attunements for Elementalists (That’s really what they are), when it should been far more “This class can literally do anything in the right circumstances and with the right RNG.”

Hammer’s a Tanky weapon, which Engineers really lacked outside of Tool Kit (which almost no one freaking ran because all the Engi Purists are so caught up in RNGrenades). I’m loving Hammer, and it was my real introduction to the class.

Scrapper is Anet mistake. Tool kit was almost in every meta build. I don’t know how long you play this class.

And except this pvp meta, i never use hammer anywhere. Where you want use it? In raid for tanking is better condi. In open world I take p/p+4 kit and with 5 blind skills i can’t die. For dungeon speed run still rifle/nade power build… so i don’t think that hammer is engineer image. It’s only toy for new engineers.

If you like it, okay. For me totally useless(meaby after balance in pvp too).

Necro is not only one who can burn ele with new DS. Condi engi with nades can make 5 condis from one throw, sustain of 3-4 condi by aa nade. If they change something in core engi survivability, this will be danger for ele too. Hopefully nades are hard to land on moving target.

Bro- awesome idea!!! You have 100% truth that purgy is not viable. Only 1 change-converting condi to boons will make big diffrence.

Like a turrets, give for gyro traits that they can spam boons is too interesting idea. This will make themmore friendly.

And shreddy, ah increase condi duration for 5 allies with shredd gyro? 20% overcap?! Let’s make it!! I will be honestly have ready my utility slot for shreddy. This is unique buff like warrior banners or idk revenant ferocity buff. Anet read this and start thinking about this because we don’t have anything like other classes=increase stat points without might affect.

Okay this is what we expect what Anet will make. So it will be interresting return here after 2 weeks and watch how we know Anet moves, or not

Kicast.1459:

Top is likely to be
Overlords:
Thief
Necro
Engi

Good
Ranger
Revenants

Likely to be trash:
Guardians (more squishy meta can maybe help however)
Wars (is sustain help sufficient?)
Ele (was strong against condies without ds in the past…but cele amulet no more here)

Trash for sure:
Mesmer (shatter gonna be eaten alive by thieves (as it has always been) and bunker seeems dead in all directions (no more amulets / unblockable skillssharing / quickness rez nerf / quickness stomp nerf))

Interresting top trio. But I hope that warrior will be more above. They meaby add more condi cleanse.

Engi get minor nerf to scrapper. As I enjoy scrapper, I must say appologize because its really unbalanced if you play it well.

Necro. I dont have any problem with reaper, necro, even if he is my counter, boost necro no problem but damaging chill… this is always my death. If I see kill info: 27k dmg chill, 15k poison, 14k bleed.. It is a big jump. I don’t suggest reduce dmg, but duration. Or look deep on this.

Thieves dmg increase i think not much affect pvp. Meaby they get more chance in pve who know. Now I hunting thieves like a cat hunt mouse… I fear that balance can change this.. (No ^^)

I am only interrested what we expect and what will be reality after balance patch.

For me is:
A+
Necromancer
Thief
Druid

A
Warrior
Revenant

B+
Engineer
Guardian

B
Elementalist
Mesmer

This will not be truth, but for fun try post your’s

I am for it. If anet have worry about another bunker meta(if they remove settler) you can allow healing power or toughness only with 560 stat points. This can be thing of discuss. So what do you thing guys, don’t look only on us, they want balance and something tell me no hatd bunker amulets.

Okay I understand and me-kits lover- let’s say that I can accept this. I don’t want take example in pvp now but in pve-raids: so now we running 4 kit condi. Many proffesions rotate 10skills(primary aa) +utility. We swaping kits like crazy bulls and except nade aa we never can use any aa(and yea nade is aoe skill.. My finger hurts). And still many classes have better group viable. So you think if they make kits something like “dps spike” in pve that this can be solution? Upgrade our core weapons? →and increase kit skills cd? Ithink that Anet dont touch on this

^^ sure, but you must know that marauder scrapper is only created with every defensive trait lines (alchemy: condi remove+boons/inevntions: high healing-bunker down/scrapper: rapid regen, adaptive armor..) then add high power coeficient on hammer skills, many surv abilities and this is it.

You can use high cc pressure(lack of stability). Or shoot down his hp under 25%(3 sec god mini elixir) he will loose 1 heal(under 25% heal skill reset). I know him deep so my nades always eat him

I am too much deformated playing engi. If I try play other class, i can’t believe how much low sort of skills I have. I must have ready skills for everything-and this give me kits.
So how do you want fix kits?
Btw: these toys is only reason why I play engi (I’m fatal hater of weap swap cd).

Sure (30+games over 4 days=3wins). I am on mobile so no attachments.
SoloQ

I was enjoy these events a lot. ToN, marrionet, and battle of LA. This bring me back to gw2 after long break.

Alone with enemy player in the middle of legacy of foefire. Fighting at far, fighting at close, but we only stay, looking on yourselfs, and lazy wait who win. Graveyard neutral for all time. I have lucky because he has got my counter class build, and after we win he write: I am id* ot. Small funny story

Rezzet.3614:

David.5974:

santenal.1054:

Weaponswap cooldown on the engineer? No thanks, I would instead advocate for more kits and making kits usable without having to trait for them (grenade kit explosion radius).

Same here. More kits is best idea which I ever see here.

alrite a Rifle Kit would do i guess

Hehe xD i will welcome this too.. But i think that without cd swap this will be much OP. Could you imagine combo of hammer 5+3 and rifle 5? Other players (classes) want nerf scrapper to the bone and you want bring him nuke button i like your idea much, but i don’t see that it can be real.

santenal.1054:

Weaponswap cooldown on the engineer? No thanks, I would instead advocate for more kits and making kits usable without having to trait for them (grenade kit explosion radius).

Same here. More kits is best idea which I ever see here.

Deniara Devious.3948:

I think the title should read scrapper, not engineer.

Try playing core engineer without the elite spec in the current meta and you will find out, it is indeed not overpowered at all. Any nerf to core engi spec will gut down the core engineer even into deeper pit and force every “engineer” play scrapper.

The biggest problem is the hammer, which offers way too much goodies: good dps, might stacking, reflect (on very low CD), evade + triple leap finisher, block (on very low CD), lighting field + 1200 range AoE stun. That is just spectacularly too much for 1 weapon: either it should be focused on the utility and CC side and do pitiful DPS, just like warrior hammer or it should do good DPS, but offer much less utility.

I don’t know where all this false information comes that engineer is immune to conditions. Conditions are one of the main weaknesses of the engineer. Granted an elixir build can have good condition removal. Medkit might look good on paper and it offers 2.5 s resistance on 20 s cooldown (throw antidote, aka medkit #5), but how often you see engineers using medkit?

And I am an engineer main.

Engi main here too.

Don’t please touch slick shoes. I will repeated here: if anet not split pvp and pve, slick shoes is one of our best ability for cc break bar in raid/world boss. Breaking this skill make engi more useless-scrapper is the problem not slick shoes.

Reduce healing from rapid regen, hammer cd is too short,no dmg! But cd. (Increase cd-not affect pve scrapper this i mean. You will stay only longer in granade/flamethrower kit)

As you say, we have lack of stability (only with toss elixir b) not too much condi remove(still my most deaths is from necros sigh..) it will be intteresting how we will compare against buffed thieves and necros.

I try play core engi against scrapper today in pvp and I know how you feel now guys. Reflects, cc, high sustain and dmg, disengage from battle. Increase his cd on hammer can work. Second skill to 10sec, meaby they now can take some explosive kit idk how will patch shake with this. Btw: 12 sec cd on rocket charge? 15sec or dmg reduce!

I think that they don’t nerf our overall dmg. Meaby some sustain in pvp but this will force us to find another strategy. They forget our play-style(ground targeting, kit changing etc) Anet should try play engi with one of our 4 kit build, after this we will reciew major changes.

Kits are useless in pve??? O-o. Open world: 4 kit condi in hot areas(almost every champ solo). Raid: 4 kit condi. Dungeon speed run: 4 kit power. Tell me that kit’s are useless.
You can easilly swap utilitiy on demand situation. And if you speaking about pvp, so except slickshoes i want see minot improve in gadgets.

Yea i read post before, now I see that need to be traited.
This what you post is great build(you meaby know few times you help me choose some pvp nade build). I love nades in pvp, so I wait for patch

Glass cannon is interesting. I missing bore condi pressure in explosive trait line(nades, bombs, mortar all of those have big source of condi). This idea I think is not bad. Not exactly this what you write but something with condi to glass cannon. (For me only)

I really much want see small buff to shrapnel. From 15% to 20%. Or replace evasive power bomb from grandmaster.

Hah, yea this is skill prove? I take to raid druid with full exo. Thanks to him we finally kill sabetha.. And he never did raid before. But for pugs is this “skill indicator” so go on wiki and link them 20 insignias if they want it (such easy bro)

Btw: I tell skill sigh.. No skill no, you need only know your class(exping class from 1lvl to 80 without books of knowledge or wvw is the best way how to understand your proffesion) and metabattle can help you if you are lost so : don’t loose hope, try alwayss tell pug leader truth. Speed runs bored me, I hate elitist players… and I find that most funny raid is with non experienced players.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlUUh2tYJXwmKQ+FLTGU42TWYFfWBCw4IqQEA-TZBBABHcgAkvMAAPAgKuAA1s/AA

What do you think guys.

Heartpains.7312:

Sorry if someone has mentioned this, but why are all the changes are for Spvp and then you keep trying to balance things around the Spvp, then you forget that there is wvw and there is pve =/

Please add all the stats and then try to balance things and not based on Spvp only, things like you need to stand on capping point and Mesmer gs1 for example (not to mention the obstructer you get mostly with it if you try to go in distant)

Or being on the capping point when you know that there are aoes going around on the capping point or god forbid traps.

Please try to balance the game itself and not only around Spvp and forget about other parts of the game.

100%

Range demand reduction on rifle 3 and pistol 4-don’t touch this! This 2 skills have too high dmg to be fired from 600 range! They can increase lowest but decrease highest dmg, this will reduce dmg in pve.. And take some suprise shots in pvp

I seen someone say: make pistol aa explosive-GReat suggestion! Generally: raid: fast boss moving no more great dps loss, pvp: some medium aa with vuln, chance to another bleed and criple. If will this too much op, they can reduce number of targets to 2 or 1 for me. We have better skill for aoe anet :-)

Scrapper balancing go right way. Increasing CD on hammer will force us to use another kit(nades, toolkit? ) you must say that in pvp sneak gyro si OP, but still we have good alternative(elixir x is my favorite).

I think that old marauder static discharger is nearlly back. (You know, use rifle turret and his tool belt skill with 6sec cd + static discharge). Gear sheild is here very needed kit(toolbelt for next statoc discharge) and gear sheild save me too much lives… okay i continue in my legend rifle progress

A-net, could you try thinking about this stat combo amulet:

1050 power
1050 condition damage
560 precision
560 vitality

-healing and toughness is useless for me in pvp. I prefer use some skills and timed dodge to avoid damage. Vitality needed for some mistakes in combat and for some condi durability.

I don’t want focus pure condi or power dmg. I want “new celestial”.Not best at anything. What do ypu think guys

Michael.9403:

Thanks all for all the comebacks. I am in the process of switching to conditions and was doing the spreadsheet of before/after. I had the 33% enabled and needed to turn them off temporarily.

Like I said, I was blind, so a quick question here while I ran an errand got me moving again.

I understand the buildup, and am grinding flax farms and AB meta for viper gear mats. Unfortunately, the necromancer was ahead of him in the queue and got the first set of Viper gear, so I’ve just started this one up the line.

Are you ever killing wyvern in hot areas? You know that every minute he need to destroy his cc bar. And who is the best for this job? You can save more then 5 minutes only with your small effort by slick shoes (and to more players) so tell my why you first gearing necro

If they don’t nerf HT and slick shoes, engi will be still my main even if he make zero dmg and die from one hit by rabbit.

Nerf rapid regeneration(not from swiftness but from haste) and adaptive armor(condi reduce is balanced, armor need nerf 40) but increase duration to 12sec.

Other traits need more viability to choose like: "hey am power zerk for raid, condi engi, tank, cc, or meaby heal(med kit? O-o) we will see :-)

Ziggy I dont think that your calculation is correct (meaby will be my fail) but if you deploy medy gyro yea you got 5330 heal, and 2820 over time until gyro destroyed-then start cd 20sec. So it will be 8150 longer then over 20.sec?

Ah sorry for my not understand. Yea this I can but true is harder(player spawn near) I was earn some exp in pvp lobby. Just drop all cd (with marauder scrapper) and focus only lord. I trying to keep him in cc sustain under 70%hp and under 30%slick shoes him. Try to train it in lobby you can make it

Pve-one of main source of dps(raid, frac)
Pvp-hard to put. Meaby if you bunker conquest. After bomb heal not avaible i not using this kit in pvp

I prefer on VG one time burst heal on need(HT). If will be in future raid boss with constant tick dmg over time-medy gyro will have place in my healing slot

I have the eternal so i made yesterday raid for medium skilled ppl. After 2 hours we beat VG with not best class setup(for 5 players was is first kill) and we end at gorse after 1 hour around 15%hp(I repeat for almost all ppl was 1st experience and only me have kill) so, I think that not everyone is toxic. Try to join bigger guild with your language and meaby you will have luck

I dont know how can you tell it eh just use hammer 5 on lord + rocket charge h3, then acid bomb, make some damage and if you feel that you can will die, just use haste, slick shoes run around room, use every condi clean, sneak gyro, or run out of room with sneak gyro(they may follow you, destroy gyro outside of door and run in stealth into lord again) meaby its more harder then reaper dont know, its only about rotating your cd at right time and thinking ablittle future what you will need :-)

Hate gyros… love kits.
Why engi not using gyros on raid? Because he will be useless. (Seekers knockback with FT, might stack, vuln stack, high dps)
Only one gyro I really like in pve, pvp and wvw-sneak gyro.

I like the idea of dual swords and better 1v1! I do have to also through my two cents in that I love the gyros.[/quote]

This is really interresting. Dual sword… canach have sword and sheild so i think that next expansion we get main hand sword and another expansion off hand sword

Engineer-idk
Engineer is jack of all trades so I want see this tend in future(for only me, gyros are bad idea)
I will really enjoy something like this

Enchantments: you will enchant you current equiped weapon by sort of skills(let me introduce some)
Rocket enchant: in this kit your weapon(pick hammer) AA no not reciew might, but only give more vulnerability. Electro whirl now shoot rockets around you (without reflection) rocket charge now inflict stun but not evade…etc
Next elixir enchant: aa minor heal each strike..
Flame enchant: condi based… etc

It meaby seems op, but if you use electrowhirl without any enchant you will reflect missiles but you will stil have cd(6sec? )if you swap to enchant your skill change but still you have cd from non enchant or previous(so enchants will be like kits, without cd) this give more viability to any weapon but it may be very hard work for devs.

Of course it cant work with only enchats utilities, this is only far idea what should i invite in my gameplay

I play scrapper since hot launch in pvp, and he is really really boring. I hope that scrapper will be good, but for his effort and reward no meta please.

I hope that they give us some trait changes, when we can use rifle and p/p(s) really effectively. Each of theese weapon sets which hammer will mean cc, sustain, medium dmg. Rifle power dmg zerk, ranged, support(turrets) and p/p condi, heal?.. Somethink like this which each weapon will have his own role in pvp.

I can solo lord with 3 medium skilled enemy players in room(better without reapet and revenant) final stomp with fun gyro + toss elixir b and slick shoes around to prevent them from ress :-)

I really enjoy split sections on each boss. It’s good mechanism for “specialists” of current need. VG need condi dmg, gorse some stopers. This make i think feel that you are very important for your squad. Meaby they can make on other wing some split section with much evade skill req for thieves.

Thanks for advice. I take your build and keep trying find best balance. I am so bored of marauder scrapper.. And meaby for cosmetic, want see my hope pistols eith nade barrage

I try to make condi nade build to pvp because I like condi dmg and I think that granades is ussable in pvp.

I trying something like this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqanUUBdpilYBeeBEqil3i6boiwAge379iPcEjoUD-TJBBABYcCAA4BAEWZgo3fAA

I try to keep eye on some cc(slick shoes, freeze nade etc.) power damage(shrapnel nade, aa nade) and condi from kit and pistol. Inventions i choose because of bunker down. But this amulet not provide precision so i try to raise crit chance with sigils.
Condi remove provide purge gyro, and have cute tool belt skill for add condi.

I test this build and it works great against other engineers. But still big HP pool and low heal..

Thanks for feedback and feel free for any advice

Marauder scrapper is really best now for pvp. But if I see in conquest 2+ elementalists i swap to marauder rifle(alchemy, inventions, tools) -static discharger. It’s still very good build and you can troll many DH, some bunkers… but be carefull on reapers.

And yea, I too missing hgh cele engi.

Rezzet.3614:

this is the reason i havent logged in a month and the few days i did before that it was only to collect my daily login reward and log off.

engi is all about effort and no reward .

I start think like you.
A-net meaby think that condi engi use pistol AA as main source of dmg.. Why we have this useless skill. They must know that we using 4 kits, swaping them in combat with tactic moves(many of our skills is hard to put-nades, bomb field etc..) and dont see CD! So if I swap to bomb kit and fire bomb is on cd, i loose dps and make non productive move(meaby on nades is better explain-no aa until press button).