Guild Wars 2

Celestina.2894:

Conncept.7638:

And the developers once again forget that engineers exist…

Unless I’m mistaken, Engis got the most buffs not counting necros.

I definitely wouldn’t say they were ignored this update.

But Engi’s still need a lot of love. Although most of this update was fixing pointless things, it’s a step in the right direction

lol@ “The prestige of having a legendary”

From the second that legendary weapons could be bought & sold, the only prestige left is “I have a ton of money to throw at the game”.

Just thought I’d mention it’s not always the one at the top blocks everyone else. Few days ago JQ was camping the top and not letting anyone get past the cage room. There was a bunch of us from BG and SoR players who were blocked off, so we had an unofficial truce and managed to take out the JQ campers. After helping everyone through WE camped the top and maintained our truce while taking out anyone starting fights. Helped players from either sides get portalled up, and when the JQ came back and camped the entrance instead, we had some fun stealthing players past them before porting them up.

TLDR: The king of the hill is not necessarily a kitten

womble.2153:

Why does it matter? If they’re releasing new content all the time, including zones and abilities, with some of that content being “sticky” or persistent, and they’re doing that to maintain interest to keep the cash shop ticking over, and that’s funding the “rolling” expansion, why do you want a “big bang” expansion pack?

Of course, it might not be like that; the best case outcome of my interpretation of their aims as stated in the recent publicity might not be achieved, but still, what’s so special about “an expansion”?

It matters because the content they are releasing right now is just temporary and way too little.

I’d would’ve much rather have them take the last 9 months since release and give us some decent filled-out content that keeps me occupied, instead of releasing some tidbits every month that occupies me for a day or two.

Best ever? Maybe not

Pretty awesome? Definitely

AndrewSX.3794:

Virtute.8251:

Replace it with a dolyak pasture.

No, let’s do like BLs: replace it with huge useless lake.

Actually, a completely underwater map could have potential to be rather interesting

Daendur.2357:

make small scale group the best way to earn points and ranks

I look forward to that day

But until then this thread and the zerg vs zerg it implies will have to do

Variations in the Borderlands instead of 3 identical maps would be more than enough to make me happy already

What the hell did I just read through?

Did the puzzle normally the first time, then got to the diving goggles.

It wouldn’t have been necessary for me to port up again (and again and again) if not for the fact that you have to almost blindly dive down and hope you don’t hit something on the way down.

Contiguous.1345:

Heck – we double-teamed the Germans in ’45. In fact we mega-teamed ’em.

All’s fair in love and war.

Well they DID try to team-kill Russia, so their fault they didn’t have teammates

Daendur.2357:

What a sad topic …

Parthis.2091:

This topic… le sigh…

Don’t hate the player, hate the game

Easy enough question – what do you think is the best prof/build for tagging in zergs?

So far I’ve tried Grenade/rifle Engi for chilling at the back of a zerg as well as Ft for a bit more risky tagging.
Staff Ele has was pretty decent but just have a hard time getting into it.
Warr with LB also hits lots of targets and hits pretty hard.

Over-all I’d say Engi came out on top for me.

What’s your opinion on whose the best tagger?

Devinchi.2756:

What makes jumping puzzles exclusively PvE content?

That’s the problem – it’s not, when it should be. It has nothing to do with WvW

Devinchi.2756:

Why do people keep calling this a PvE achievement when it’s in a WvW map?

A jumping puzzle is still a jumping puzzle, whether there be WvW players or not.

Allow WvW to take place in a dungeon and it’s still a dungeon.

Being located inside WvW does not change what it is

*Become the hero that killed Trahearne

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Adam.4103:

The problem is not doing pvp in a pvp zone but ANet adding PvE content in a PvP zone. In no way can anyone make sense of that decision.

If the reason behind this is to lure PvE players into WvW, or to encourage them to check out the WvW maps, then that’s fine – a valid reason in my opinion.

So you think that it’s a good idea to lure PvE players into a death-trap to encourage them to do more WvW?

I’d prefer a post-Zaithan Orr. We did all that crap in the living story, yet the place is no different. Would be nice to at least see some of the fruits of our labour

Entropy.4732:

I think people don’t really understand what double-teaming is and why we are against it. NO ONE is talking about the natural, random occurrences of two servers attacking the same server simultaneously. We’re not even talking about a Red commander noticing in game that Blue is attacking Green and deciding to attack Green also while they are distracted with Blue. I’m not even talking about Green and Blue coincidentally attacking Red simultaneously. All of that will happen in WvW and is normal.

We are talking about Commanders from two separate servers exchanging emails with each other in real life, talking on voice chat, and deciding to team up to eliminate and crush another server completely until they chase them to their spawn camp and they can’t play. We’re talking about Green Commanders sending texts to Blue commanders with specific instructions like “We are hitting Red’s Keep, please turtle Speldon and Pang so they won’t have supply. Let us have the keep and we’ll give you Veloka”.

In my mind, THAT is double-teaming. And yes, it is immoral and dishonorable. And more importantly, it ruins the FUN of the game. And it also doesn’t accurately reflect who is the better server. Which is the point of WvW. My last match up we got double-teamed in the way I described and sunk to 3rd with very low points. We complained about it, there was a ton of fighting on our match up thread. Then we got paired with the same servers the following week and they were too ashamed to double team. We fought the game with no alliances. Guess what happened? We won the whole thing in first place by 12,000 points.

Victory feels better when it’s honest.

Alright fair enough, I didn’t think people took it to THAT extreme to actually be communicating with each other in order to synchronize an attack. I know SoR and JQ have doubled-up against BG a number of times but then again we return the “favor” whenever possible.

But that does make me wonder, how exactly do you know what other people are communicating with each other? Are they boasting or are you just speculating? Taking the SoR/JQ example, I have no idea whether they planned it or if it was just spur of the moment. I know most of the one’s I took part in were the latter.

nirvana.8245:

Dedlaw.9130:

Deniara Devious.3948:

Dedlaw.9130:

Deniara Devious.3948:

Double teaming maybe morally wrong

How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

OP was talking about 2 winning servers ganging up together against the outnumbered one. In other words 2 bigger vs 1 smaller. The classic school yard bullies vs victim scenario.

It seems that nowadays words like honor, loyalty, morale, ethics and truth are some alien words to many people. But to me they are more than words. If a situation like I described above feels morally fine to you, that’s your opinion and I am not gonna chage it. That your commander raises up your troop’s morale by concentrating the attacks on the easiest opponent, then fine by me, but do pause for a second to think how it feels on the losing side. To me morale means the spirit when fighting together against a common goal in the time of hardship. Note the emphasis on the word hardship, instead of selecting the easiest route.

Oh please don’t bring morals into this. It’s a waste of time.

Or do your morals prevent you from killing an enemy player because they are outnumbered? Do your morals only allow for 1v1 fights because you want your opponent to have a fighting chance? Do your morals compel you to leave a tower be instead of attacking because you have a superior force to theirs? Or do your morals only apply when it suits you?

No, they aren’t just words to me, they do have meaning, but everyone on the WvW battlefield stepped in their knowing what the score was. It’s still a competition to see who comes out on top. If eliminating one of the threats improves my chances, so be it. Just because a player isn’t very skilled at chess it does not mean I should hesitate to use a fool’s mate on him to knock him out of the tournament.

True, but that said, I’d argue double teaming has no effect in the long term. Particularly so in the new matchmaking system.

True it might not be a big deal in the long run, but if you eliminate one of the teams from a map, that means it’s that much easier to take it over completely

Freeman.2679:

i guess they took it offensively about a comment i said. Not that im entirely clean on the story, i didnt mean harm

I’m guessing there is a lot more to this story than what you’re letting on….

You’re upset about technicalities in a video game?

Try explaining how you can carry 60+ pieces of armor/weapons whithout any of it being seen as well as why you can only use 2 (or 4 if you 1h) of those weapons at a time, all the while your also carrying stacks of 250 pieces of wood/ore/leather/etc that are all invisible, not to mention your pick/axe/sickle used for harvesting. Oh and your harpoon/spear/trident/etc for underwater combat. Or the lack of ammo for any projectile weapons (I mean really, how many arrows does that Barrage Ranger have? and the speed at which he shoots them? Wow!). And that’s not even bringing any of the “magic” aspects in.

Or, you can just take the alternative option called "suspension of desbelief’. It’s a little something that makes you realize it’s all just based on somebody’s imagination, not on reality.

Oh, but I just have to say – the reason grenades do better than mortar is not because you have a strong arm, it’s because mortar sucks balls

Deniara Devious.3948:

Dedlaw.9130:

Deniara Devious.3948:

Double teaming maybe morally wrong

How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

OP was talking about 2 winning servers ganging up together against the outnumbered one. In other words 2 bigger vs 1 smaller. The classic school yard bullies vs victim scenario.

It seems that nowadays words like honor, loyalty, morale, ethics and truth are some alien words to many people. But to me they are more than words. If a situation like I described above feels morally fine to you, that’s your opinion and I am not gonna chage it. That your commander raises up your troop’s morale by concentrating the attacks on the easiest opponent, then fine by me, but do pause for a second to think how it feels on the losing side. To me morale means the spirit when fighting together against a common goal in the time of hardship. Note the emphasis on the word hardship, instead of selecting the easiest route.

Oh please don’t bring morals into this. It’s a waste of time.

Or do your morals prevent you from killing an enemy player because they are outnumbered? Do your morals only allow for 1v1 fights because you want your opponent to have a fighting chance? Do your morals compel you to leave a tower be instead of attacking because you have a superior force to theirs? Or do your morals only apply when it suits you?

No, they aren’t just words to me, they do have meaning, but everyone on the WvW battlefield stepped in their knowing what the score was. It’s still a competition to see who comes out on top. If eliminating one of the threats improves my chances, so be it. Just because a player isn’t very skilled at chess it does not mean I should hesitate to use a fool’s mate on him to knock him out of the tournament.

Deniara Devious.3948:

Double teaming maybe morally wrong

How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

Bismuth.3165:

I think we should call these people kevlar.

Because they are idea-proof

Just wanna give a shout-out to the SoR players willing to call a truce while we escorted a few carebears up OS.

Luthan.5236:

Dedlaw.9130:

As it stands WvW and JPs have as little to do with each other as dungeons and WvW have to do with each other. They should never have been mixed together

Well, then also tell the other guys that complain because they have to do the WvW JP that WvW is WvW. It can’t be compared to other PvE JPs. The other guy above always tried to explain it was PvE… while that JP is in a WvW area.

Nobody is forced to get that achievement. It is a PvP achievement. By placing the cache there it is a PvP achievement. You can’t just say it is a PvE achievement… PvE players are forced to go there.

It’s PvP. Just because if you go there at a time when it’s empty it is possible to do it without fighting others does not mean it is PvE.

Crab Toss I also could say: PvE… I just need to take the Crab and ran around and if others do not hit me it is PvE. Still it is PvP… and even with achievements based on luck like the Crabtacular – there you could also grief others… just by staying alive denying them the Crabtacular(where all others including you need to get steamrolled by the Karka).

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against the camping/ganking/whatever. As you say it IS WvW after all. Yes, I find it annoying, but so is being spiked by a thief. Annoyances come with the territory. What I’m kitten ed about is that Anet put the JP there in the first place, and as if that isn’t bad enough they now added a limited-time only piece of bait there.

Only time I really look at armor is when I’m in LA. An even then, only if it’s a mixed set. I know most sets/colours by now, so only a mixed one will make me notice something is different and really pay attention

That being said, I only pick armor that I like. No point playing something I think is hideous just to be aesthetically pleasing to somebody else for a second or two.

Leo G.4501:

Summary of this thread: Entitlement. We have it!

Good sir, you may have my like!

No it doesn’t need a nerf.

Everything doesn’t need to be dumbed down. It’s quit possible and several threads have already been posted to try and guide players.

The only thing that needs a change is how long it takes

Beetlezombie.1283:

Dedlaw.9130:

I’m going to have to disagree with Beetlezombie on the usefulness of Elixer Gun. Just as a support tool it gives you a stun break, a AoE condition cleanser with a minor heal and a retreat option. Secondary things like weakness, cripple, poison and condition cleansing for allies makes it a extremely useful multi-purpose support tool.

I’ll agree with him on not using too many kits, although I’d rather say don’s use JUST kits. 2 kits can still be more than viable to use with no hassle. 3 if you include Med kit.
But keep your third utility slot open for a emergency tool

Where did I say EG wasn’t useful?

Since OP started with the fact he was having difficulties leveling and doing SOLO stuff, I was giving him my personal views and experiences while leveling. No where did I say my way was the best or whatever.

And now there’s two of you talking about group utility and making sure you ’don’t slack’ by ‘gimping’ your playstyle in groups … or else.

When I’m in a guild group and we do a new dungeon, I will slot EG. For the extra utility it provides. When we do stuff we have done many times before, I don’t, because the already existing experience overrules the necessity of EG.

And I do believe I actually wrote in a post earlier that it was one of the options of the engineer to build a support role with EG for condition removal etc, so it’s not like I said screw the EG.

My views still stand, as a new engineer, focus on settling into a playstyle YOU alone like best. And work with that. Then by the time you get the hang of it, you can start by swapping slots if the situation requires it.

Unless you’re an uber player and can do all that in your sleep. Then you can come on the forums and call the rest of us mortals baddies.

My apologies, I misread your initial post about EG.

Although I can throw the same sentence back at you – where did I ever mention slacking or gimping or called anyone a baddie? And I never said you claimed your opinion was the best or whatever, nor was I trying to shoot down your viewpoint. I was simply disagreeing with you. And I only mentioned the team utility as a secondary effect for EQ, meaning it’s not the reason you take the kit but it’s still an option you have access to if need be.

No need to take it everything so personally

Luthan.5236:

So what? I need to finish the Dungeon to get all the achivements. The mobs in the Dungeon constantly kill me. The location of the achievements should be at the beginning of the dungeon: Join it… get all the achivements. Leave. Without having to kill any mob(only if you want the chests and rewards you need to do this). Then it would be fine.

If WvWers camped the end of the dungeon to kill you, then the comparison would be correct.

As it stands WvW and JPs have as little to do with each other as dungeons and WvW have to do with each other. They should never have been mixed together

I’m going to have to disagree with Beetlezombie on the usefulness of Elixer Gun. Just as a support tool it gives you a stun break, a AoE condition cleanser with a minor heal and a retreat option. Secondary things like weakness, cripple, poison and condition cleansing for allies makes it a extremely useful multi-purpose support tool.

I’ll agree with him on not using too many kits, although I’d rather say don’s use JUST kits. 2 kits can still be more than viable to use with no hassle. 3 if you include Med kit.
But keep your third utility slot open for a emergency tool

marnick.4305:

Why would you go into a pvp map if you don’t intend to pvp?

The valid solution to OS camping is to gather a counter-force and conquer OS for yourself.

PvE players are being forced there if they want to complete achievements.
It’s like putting the only bank in the game at the end of a dungeon and forcing people to run it if they want to get to the bank.

Sure, people can say what terrible people these campers are, but they are not the problem. They are doing what WvW is for – killing other players.

The problem is the same as the bank at the end of the dungeon problem – why the hell did they put it there in the first place?

Teevell.1684:

Dedlaw.9130:

Euryon.9248:

If you’re an kitten in GW2, you are almost certainly an kitten in life.

Not necessarily.

Anonymity tends to change the way people act, most notably enhancing boldness.

Even the most introvert, timid person has the potential to be troll or griever when hiding behind anonymity. The lack of repercussions gives them the confidence to act online in ways they wouldn’t in real life

Ah yes, Gabriel’s Internet D*ckwad Theory.

Didn’t even realize it was classified as anything specific, thanks for that

Euryon.9248:

If you’re an kitten in GW2, you are almost certainly an kitten in life.

Not necessarily.

Anonymity tends to change the way people act, most notably enhancing boldness.

Even the most introvert, timid person has the potential to be troll or griever when hiding behind anonymity. The lack of repercussions gives them the confidence to act online in ways they wouldn’t in real life

Phoenix.7845:

Trahearne
/thread

waits for the lynch mob to come

All this would do is slow WvW down to crawl. There’s a reason perma-swiftness is pretty much a requirement for WvW. Even normal out-of-combat speed can feel excruciatingly slow

Drop a “fake” portal where nobody comes through and watch a zerg waste AoE on the wrong spot ^^

marnick.4305:

Let’s discuss new ways to implement money sinks given the following premises:
- goal 1: eliminate waypoint costs
- goal 2: keep inflation under control
- requirement: keep same gold sink through other means

Who has any good ideas for new money sinks that have approximately the same effect as WP costs without being as punishing?

If an alternative method had approximately the same effect, it will drain you of approximately the same amount of money. So if on average you lose 10s over the period of an hour due to WP, the replacement method should also cost you 10s over an hour on average. Otherwise the gold sink would be lessened

On the other hand, if “not as punishing” means “cost you less money”, you can just ask for the WP cost to be reduced. It’s simpler

I’ve yet to try this, but want to use Bomb kit/Rocket Boots/Slick Shoes with a Rifle.

Jump Shot into a zerg, switch to Bomb kit & activate Slick Shoes, drop your bombs while running around for Slick Shoes to work it’s magic, then once you drop BoB you Super Speed/Rocket Boots out of there pronto. Knockdowns and blowouts for everyone!

Gimmicky one-trick-pony, but could be a nice troll build ^^

lunyboy.8672:

“Some” of the added stun breaks?

There are other undocumented ones? omg.

Best Patch Ever.

I believe on the Ele’s side there is also an undocumented stun breaker on Arcane Shield, so yeah there are others

JonPeters.5630:

This is intentional. Looks like some of the added stun breakers got lost from patch notes. I’ll take a look at which other ones and post something on it tomorrow at the latest.

You are officially my new favorite person!

I prefer the rifle in it’s current form.

Hip Shot by no means makes it feel like I should keep my distance. It just gives me the option to. I’m more inclined to say Blunderbuss, Overcharged Shot and Jump Shot encourage me to get in close. It’s a mobility weapon, allowing you to get close, hit hard and retreat as well as allowing you to just kite enemies, all-in-one

Well depends on what you mean “way off”. The FT always had a cone AoE that hit targets that appeared to not be hit by the animation

kokocabana.8153:

Dedlaw.9130:

Yeah poster probably forgot a space or something

The filter doesn’t count spaces, it simply reads the sequence of letters to prevent players from bypassing the filter easily by adding spaces or punctuations between letters.

Ah OK, that explains it.

Ty

Fender.3624:

While you are falling, quickly open the world map and wp. You won’t die

WP before or after death isn’t much of a difference. What makes it annoying is constantly having to re-do the starting section instead of just starting back at the gate. It’s an annoying waste of time

zBluRrYz.1347:

Just wanted you all to hate me

A job well done

Congrats, you kitten^^

GFRikku.2983:

ofc you are playing low tiers

Wow, you are just constantly making assumptions

I’m on BG. We are constantly facing-off against SOR and JQ. That’s Tier 1.
Having a borderland almost completely under one server’s control is nothing uncommon.
Facing 50-man zergs is a daily routine.

And where do you get off calling people bullies? News-flash – the entire goal of WvW is to over-power your opponents. Conflict is the nature of the game. If a server is winning it does not mean they are bullies, it means they are competitive. This isn’t carebear land. If you cant handle fighting tooth and nail for every tower then I’m afraid you’re playing the wrong part of the game.

And where the hell did I even once mention changing servers?

Are people really that hard up for 2-3s? I just WP over there and get it done