Guild Wars 2

Diku.2546:

@Dominick

All Players emailed 1 Free Pass to change their Chosen Globe. Account Bound with an Expiration Date set by ANet.

Let the players go where they want to go.

Let players stack on the Top 3 Globes.

Give players who want to stay on Empty Globes the ability to attack the Top 3 Globes.

Empty Globes as you put it will be the source that will allow for future growth.

Implementing this idea isn’t that difficult. It’s a simple solution & the mechanic is already being used.

Should, Would, or Does work…which is better?

How much coding does ANet need to do?

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Globe Limit is a simple mechanic.

Globe Limit Does Work & is already being used when you 1st Logon.

It’s called Guesting.

Next time you logon – Click [ World Selection ] Button – Pick a Different Home World – Click [ Guest ] Button.

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While we’re at it…

Borderland Maps – Mix, Swap, or Reduce

Less is more?

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Borderland Maps – Mix, Swap, or Reduce

Players first appear in corners of the Eternal Battle Map with this proposal

Mixing, swapping, or REDUCING the number of Borderland maps used is possible with this proposal, but I’m not sure if it’s feasible from a programming standpoint

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As for balancing Match-Ups.

How do you propose to stop a single super stacked and strong Globe from buying up guilds & dominating all Globes?

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Players can continue to Globe stack if they want. Powerful Guilds can continue to try to dominate the Top 3 Rank WvW positions

ANet would probably adjust the Weekly Globe limit that players can visit to 1 for the week to force the #1 Ranked NA & EU Globes to become the King of the Hill

If Weekly Globe limit is set to 1. Once a player attacks a Globe

That Specific Chosen Globe is the only Globe that the player will be able to attack for the whole week…until the next Weekly Globe Reset occurs

A very large Guild could hold hostage the Top 3 Ranked Globes, but the New Base Mechanic will at least allow all the Lower Ranked Globes to attack them

Current Base Map Mechanic does not even allow the Lowest Ranked World to attack the #1 Ranked WvW World

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Lower Ranked Globes earn more points attacking Higher Ranked Globes

Higher Ranked Globes earn less points attacking Lower Ranked Globes

Home Globe Team will be shown the 3 Top Globes attacking in a random order to provide targeting

King of Hill Buff – Bottom 3 WvW Ranked Worlds get an automatic buff when attacking any Top WvW Ranked World’s Home Globes. Cross Global Theaters of War attacks also trigger Buff

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If ANet has to enforce a Weekly Globe Limit of 1 Globe

Severely stacked Globes will be exposed to attack from All Globes, but their armies would be forced to divide itself in retaliation attacks along multiple Globe fronts

Bottom 3 Ranked Globes actually always get an Automatic Buff for attacking any Top 3 Globes

Top 3 Ranked Globes really don’t benefit from attacking the Bottom 3 Ranked Globes

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Nothing will prevent all Globes from picking 1 Globe to attack, but given the mechanic that encourages players to visit 0-3 Globes…you can be pretty sure…somebody will decide to attack a different Globe to raise their Home Globe’s Rank over the other Globes

Globes Base design is to encourage Local & International Communities to form

Globe identity encourages a Strong Sense of Community & Hard Fought Rivalries imho

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This is a long term solution that encourages Local & International WvW Communities to form & become established…then nurtured

Over time…Communities will be born, grow up, age, and die…the cycle of life

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Both NA & EU #1 Ranked Globes would earn less for being the King of the Hill…because nobody is above them in Rank

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Players from EU Globes can attack NA Globes by visiting them

Players from NA Globes can attack EU Globes by visiting them

The Globe based design allows players from all 24 NA Globes & 27 EU Globes to move fluidly across all Globes

Current Base Map Mechanic Does Not Allow players to fluidly fight across all World Servers

It’s more fun to be able to fight in any Globe of your choice for the week

Current Base Map Mechanic has you typically fighting the same Server in the same Tier for weeks…if not months…over and over again

The only restriction to being the 0-3 Globe Limit for players. This number that can be adjusted to 1 Globe if necessary by ANet to prevent un-fair matches & to keep players from gaming the system

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Players can choose to fight in any NA & EU Globe

WvW is open 24/7….and now…players can find a Globe that is active…even if it’s Night Time for their Home Globe…because it’s definitely Day Time on an International Globe to that player

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Anything doesn’t start out big. Stop kidding yourself…you weren’t born from your mother as an adult. Everything has their humble beginnings.

Let the WvW players consolidate & stack to their hearts content.

@Jayne

I know it won’t stop all gaming, but as a mechanism to reduce gaming.

How do you propose to stop a single super stacked and strong Globe from buying up guilds & dominating all Globes?

@Dominik & Swagger

You both should work together on a MegaServer Topic Thread.

You both think alike.

Swagger.1459:

Diku.2546:

@Swagger

Still waiting for your MegaServer Topic thread.

I don’t need to make one on your behalf. Most players already get it… Don’t bother asking, it’s a waste…

But yours would be awesome. You would post updates on it daily. You really should.

You’re such an outspoken advocate for MegaServer.

@Dominik

You really can’t see 2 Globes fighting it out in a SuperBowl like setting after an intense season of battles between all Globes?

There could easily be 3 Worlds to 1,000 Worlds at War.

Team players & fans would be anybody who plays WvW?

Like the NFL SuperBowl…not everybody really plays Football themselves.

WvW Vision

1) World based War…that’s why it’s called WvW.

2) System that allows World Communities to grow or survive.

3) War between Worlds should typically have no borders, but should have limitations to reduce or prevent un-fair matches.

@Dominik

This proposal is not perfect, but at least it allows players to go where the fun is without sacrificing Server Pride & Identity.

Any system that automatically manipulates match-ups on behalf of the players will do this poorly imho.

This Server based solution lets players decide their own match-ups individually…while collectively encouraging a War between Worlds on a massive scale.

The concept I’m trying to bring to the table will be a good change for the future of WvW imho.

It offers a simple fix to the Server vs. Server mode & encourages the unique Team Identity culture that’s proven to be highly successful & lucrative by the NFL Superbowl franchise…imho.

Yours truly,
Diku

@Swagger

Still waiting for your MegaServer Topic thread.

Diku.2546:

@Swagger

Honestly…I still don’t understand how Megaserver will handle the Match-Ups.

You should create a Topic Thread on Megaserver Base Map Mechanics imho.

You’re such a strong advocate of the concept. That way people can see the details behind how the Megaserver will work.

I still believe that any system that automatically manipulates the Match-Ups will do it poorly. A system that puts the “Skin” on players to decide will fuel SERIOUS passion imho.

Still waiting to see you create a MegaServer Topic Thread.

Swagger.1459:

Diku.2546:

Swagger.1459:

We understand what you are asking for…

Wvw is 3 years old and dying and a year into secret coding and money and person power…

It’s irrational to think they will scrap whatever idea they are already have to make the “globe” system. Plus you are messing with base servers way too much when, probably now, 99% of players don’t even care at all. And those that still care who love rvr stuff will just bail this year anyway… Nobody is waiting another year to do your idea, it’s pretty foolish to ask for at this point, and the wrong direction…

Plus as pointed out to you, with your own words/admittance, your idea tears apart the communities and gives free transfers to do it… So much for your server pride chest bumping… At least my megaserver/alliance things keeps servers more stable and more as is lol…

SuperBowl Franchise Opportunity

Sadly…Whatever ANet did up till this point is…

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A Sunk Cost

Some bad decisions can’t be fixed by throwing more resources at it, or tweaking it.

imho

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Cornerstone needs to be set correctly or the whole skyscraper will not build as tall as you want it to.

A building could collapse or function poorly if the Base Design isn’t built on a solid fundamental design.

The core needs to be Team Based.

All lucrative Professional Sports are Team Based & have a Solid Identity.

Franchise…is that a marketing term? Well it applies here…for ANet to consider.

Ok…you can bring up Tennis…but that’s like sPvP.

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As an example:

NFL SuperBowl is darn successful on having multiple teams compete…and high school players dream of making it into the NFL.

One thing about high school, college, and professional football…is that they all share a team identity at its core.

ANet’s skyscraper for WvW will be limited if they choose the wrong cornerstone to build with.

Choose wrong…and you’ll get the best Shoot Em Up game ever that’s based on anonymous random teams, but ANet will never have the ability to be the next eSport SuperBowl & setting up a Franchise model if they really care about the bottom line.

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Hmmm…speaking for myself & not others. Professional sports is a good example to use.

I think many players are motivated to play for their Guild or Server for camaraderie.

It’s this shared Camaraderie/Pride that has the potential to nurture a strong sense of community.

It’s this kind of Pride that creates a Strong Sense of Community which is the backbone behind many Good & Hard Fought Rivalries imho.

A really exciting Football season between staunch or bitter Rivals leads to a successful NFL SuperBowl.

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The core message still goes back to Pride based on a unique identity…it starts out in High School, grows in College, and peaks in Professional Sports…this concept of Team Pride.

We need to build WvW around this unique pride…

World Server is a very large slew of people in one sweep…

Guild size can be small or large…

They all share one thing in common…a unique identity & pride.

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All Players emailed 1 Free Pass to change their Chosen Globe. Account Bound with an Expiration Date set by ANet.

It’s a 1 Time Free Transfer that’s to allow the Population to re-settle according to a Time Zone & Language Label that encourages WvW Communities.

This is a long term solution in correcting things. It’s like resetting a broken arm.

PvE players wouldn’t even notice the reason behind the email & the offer would expire after the date set by ANet.

You quoted that already no need…

Long term solution? When wvw is dying now? lol yeah…

Your idea kills server pride to them reform it… That’s paraphrasing you…

Gotta think outside your box there because you don’t know what you are talking about and your ideas have more holes in it than the current version of wvw…

If you look carefully…it preserves Server Pride.

MegaServer as you’re advocating…will Outright End Server Pride.

You have No vision & No fundamental concept…imho.

@Dominick

It’s a 1 Time Free Transfer that’s to allow the Population to re-settle according to a Time Zone & Language Label that encourages WvW Communities.

This is a long term solution in correcting things. It’s like resetting a broken arm.

PvE players wouldn’t even notice the reason behind the email & the offer would expire after the date set by ANet.

Yes…it is delusional to think you were an adult when you were born.

My point is…

GW2 WvW is currently a game…that imho…is an infant or unborn child…that has the Potential to grow to become the next eSport equivalent of the NFL SuperBowl.

Swagger.1459:

We understand what you are asking for…

Wvw is 3 years old and dying and a year into secret coding and money and person power…

It’s irrational to think they will scrap whatever idea they are already have to make the “globe” system. Plus you are messing with base servers way too much when, probably now, 99% of players don’t even care at all. And those that still care who love rvr stuff will just bail this year anyway… Nobody is waiting another year to do your idea, it’s pretty foolish to ask for at this point, and the wrong direction…

Plus as pointed out to you, with your own words/admittance, your idea tears apart the communities and gives free transfers to do it… So much for your server pride chest bumping… At least my megaserver/alliance things keeps servers more stable and more as is lol…

SuperBowl Franchise Opportunity

Sadly…Whatever ANet did up till this point is…

All Players emailed 1 Free Pass to change their Chosen Globe. Account Bound with an Expiration Date set by ANet.

It’s a 1 Time Free Transfer that’s to allow the Population to re-settle according to a Time Zone & Language Label that encourages WvW Communities.

This is a long term solution in correcting things. It’s like resetting a broken arm.

PvE players wouldn’t even notice the reason behind the email & the offer would expire after the date set by ANet.

You have No vision & No fundamental concept…imho.

@Dominick

All Players emailed 1 Free Pass to change their Chosen Globe. Account Bound with an Expiration Date set by ANet.

Let the players go where they want to go.

Let players stack on the Top 3 Globes.

Give players who want to stay on Empty Globes the ability to attack the Top 3 Globes.

Empty Globes as you put it will be the source that will allow for future growth.

Implementing this idea isn’t that difficult. It’s a simple solution & the mechanic is already being used.

Should, Would, or Does work…which is better?

How much coding does ANet need to do?

While we’re at it…

Borderland Maps – Mix, Swap, or Reduce

Less is more?

As for balancing Match-Ups.

How do you propose to stop a single super stacked and strong Globe from buying up guilds & dominating all Globes?

Anything doesn’t start out big. Stop kidding yourself…you weren’t born from your mother as an adult. Everything has their humble beginnings.

@Jayne

Time Zone/Language Label

Globes are Labeled after a Time Zone. This Time Zone Mechanic is only a Label

Communities Form around this Label

Also, there is a Language mechanic to help properly Label a Community that forms for each Globe

New Players before choosing a Globe…are shown the Language preference distribution of its population…primary & secondary Languages of players for the Globe

Local & International Communities Form around Globes using these Labels

Time Zone & Label Mechanics Do Not prevent players from doing anything in WvW.

I’m still not seeing the passion.

I’m a Green Alliance Player & Fan

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I’m a Green Bay Packers Player & Fan

@Swagger

You really should create a New Topic thread to discuss your Megaserver alternative.

I’d recommend you reserve the top 3-5 posts of the New Topic so you can post updates to the mechanics that you’ll get from feedback.

That way you can spearhead it & it won’t get lost in a long drawn out discussion…like it will be here.

Swagger.1459:

You take base concurrency numbers and add them together to make more even…

Simple math to start alliances placed on mega, then you let competition control tiers after…

Devs have access to all numbers and stats…

@Swagger

Cornerstone needs to be set correctly or the whole skyscraper will not build as tall as you want it to.

The core needs to be Team Based.

All lucrative Sports are Team Based & have a Solid Identity…

Franchise…is that a marketing term? Well it applies here…for ANet to consider.

Ok…you can bring up Tennis…but that’s like sPvP.

NFL SuperBowl is darn successful on having multiple teams compete…and high school players dream of making it into the NFL…but they all have their Team identity that is core to their value.

ANet’s skyscraper for WvW will be limited if they choose the wrong cornerstone to build with.

Choose wrong…and you’ll get the best Shoot Em Up game ever (Splatoons), but ANet will never have the ability to be the next eSport SuperBowl & setting up a Franchise model if they really care about the bottom line.

@Swagger

Honestly…I still don’t understand how Megaserver will handle the Match-Ups.

You should create a Topic Thread on Megaserver Base Map Mechanics imho.

You’re such a strong advocate of the concept. That way people can see the details behind how the Megaserver will work.

I still believe that any system that automatically manipulates the Match-Ups will do it poorly. A system that puts the “Skin” on players to decide will fuel SERIOUS passion imho.

Diku.2546:

Saw this posted in another Topic thread & wanted to share the concept difference between Color Alliances vs Team Names.

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COLOR ALLIANCE

Green. Purple. – Susan Ivanova and Drazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcBTOU7RvbU

Splatoon green vs purple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96hXIOk69Y

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TEAM NAMES

Top 10 Super Bowls of All-Time | #1: Steelers vs. Cardinals (Super Bowl XLIII) | NFL Films
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7HYCc41oT4

Top 10 Super Bowl Plays: #1 David Tyree’s Helmet Catch | NFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCAQsEwyCcg

Go Purple Splatoon…yay…I’m so excited over a color.

Don’t forget about Kurzick vs Luxon too…yay…2 Factions!!!

NFL SuperBowl wouldn’t be the same with only 2-3 Factions btw…imho.

I’m a Green Alliance Player & Fan

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I’m a Green Bay Packers Player & Fan

Swagger.1459:

And the Coca-Cola corporation has the resources to do that… Random generic and failing soda companies cannot do what Coke does…

You need better and more realistic comparisons…

Random generic and failing soda companies…go out of business when they continue to make poor decisions.

It’s not about resources…it’s about decisions. Once again…you totally miss the point.

RedBaron.6058:

LoL…at least in SuperBowl you have opposing teams with same number of players.

In WvW you dont…

LoL…War isn’t fair, but there are mechanics that can be used to reduce the impact of an unbalanced fight.

How do you propose to stop a single super stacked and strong Globe from buying up guilds & dominating all Globes?

Swagger.1459:

Diku.2546:

Still the outspoken & totally “clued in” expert I see.

I’m being rational and realistic, not dreaming.

Hmmm…even Coca-Cola made a big mistake.

Chief operating officer and a director of The Coca-Cola Company.

Donald Keough at a press conference. “The simple fact is that all the time and money and skill poured into consumer research on the new Coca-Cola could not measure or reveal the deep and abiding emotional attachment to original Coca-Cola felt by so many people.”

Coca-Cola quickly corrected their New Coke fiasco less than 3 months after New Coke’s introduction & responded to their customer’s feedback & had Classic Coke re-stocking the shelves.

Time is ticking…and I’m hoping ANet does a Coca-Cola re-stock of Classic WvW.

ANet can say they were testing the New Desert BL, but decided that the Old Alpine BL will be put back temporarily to allow the New Desert BL to be brought into maintenance mode to make changes to improve WvW mechanics.

SuperBowl Franchise Opportunity

Sadly…Whatever ANet did up till this point is…

@Swagger

Still the outspoken & totally “clued in” expert I see.

Not imho.

Fix imho

1) Put back Alpine Map.
2) Implement a Globe Based system.

You’re over thinking things & using it to sound like you’re an expert on this subject.

Some things just feel right. The above 2 suggestions is the right thing to do imho.

Ask any WvW player if they had their finger on the button that could flip back the Old Alpine Map…how many would you think would do it?

Swagger.1459:

Sir or ma’am diku,

You have been equating NFL fans with wvw players…

The NFL organization doesn’t organize fans…

You’re confusing things sorry…

@Swagger

Trying to Keep it simple for you.

The entire premise of this thread is that Unique Team Based Identities used by the NFL drives SERIOUS Passion for the franchise.

ANet needs to fix the Base Map Mechanic that is causing WvW to fail.

The fix is really simple.

Get rid of the Current Tier Based system & replace it with a Globe based system…imho.

Once the Base Map Mechanic is fixed…Server Loyalty & Passion can be used to fuel the battles that will rage across all Globes.

Swagger.1459:

Diku, you have based the entirety of the tread on the fan/spectator perspective…

Wvw players are the NFL players in this case…

Twitch users are the fans watching the wvw game…

Imagine going to a NFL SuperBowl game where:
Red, Green, or Blue Team
You buy a ticket to cheer for a team.
NFL tells you who to cheer for.
NFL makes sure that supporters are evenly divided between the Red, Green, and Blue

Teams based on each person’s friend/family preference.
Server Pride
You buy a ticket to cheer for a team.
You decide who you want to cheer for.
Win or Loose you pick your own team.

I like your bolded quote too diku, that’s what megaserver does to even the playing field in eotm and those more even numbers are even what YOU want for Wvw…

No, the NFL doesn’t make sure fans are evenly divided… NFL doesn’t give away free tickets… That is up to fans and individual people to buy…

I think you need to put these pieces of the puzzle together better… What you want is equal sides for competition, but your way is a failing to see the true resolution…

The entire premise of this thread is flawed…

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Diku.2546:

@Swagger

You would argue with the NFL that their Team Based Franchise is all Wrong.

Your reading ability is impaired. My message hasn’t changed.

If you read English…this whole thread encourages Team Identity.

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New Base Mechanic btw would have 2 Globes fighting in an Annual SuperBowl Event.

You’re way too narrow minded when you reference a 3 way battle in WvW.

You really can’t or won’t see the whole picture.

You still have no vision & no fundamental concept that is detailed enough to guide WvW imho.

Your truly,
Diku

Interesting…

I see the entire picture and game sorry…

The wvw maps are the football field…

The wvw players are the NFL players…

The twitch users are the fans watching on tv or in the stands…

I’m not sure you should use the word “impaired”.

Just to be clear…I’m advocating the following:

Teams based on each person’s friend/family preference.
Server Pride
You buy a ticket to cheer for a team.
You decide who you want to cheer for.
Win or Loose you pick your own team.

You’ve basically repeated what I’ve been trying to tell you after trying to discredit this Topic Thread.

So now you’re agreeing with a Unique Team Based alternative instead of supporting a MegaServer Based alternative?

Are you sure you’re not impaired at the moment to suddenly switch sides so suddenly?

Diku.2546:

@Swagger

You should consider applying for a career as the PR person for ANet. You could make a lot of money with your skill.

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You seem to be the foremost & most outspoken advocate of Megaserver on this forum imho. You’re so clued in too.

Still waiting for you to explain How Megaserver in detail will allow Server Switch Up to happen that the OP is asking for.

@Swagger

Any thoughts on this?

3) Isn’t PPT over emphasized in this proposal?

@Swagger

You would argue with the NFL that their Team Based Franchise is all Wrong.

Your reading ability is impaired. My message hasn’t changed.

If you read English…this whole thread encourages Team Identity.

New Base Mechanic btw would have 2 Globes fighting in an Annual SuperBowl Event.

You’re way too narrow minded when you reference a 3 way battle in WvW.

You really can’t or won’t see the whole picture.

You still have no vision & no fundamental concept that is detailed enough to guide WvW imho.

Your truly,
Diku

Diku.2546:

@Swagger

The current Base Map Mechanic is broken.

The NFL SuperBowl uses Team Identity very well in creating a highly competitive entertainment industry that is highly lucrative imho.

Server vs. Server needs to be at the center of WvW, but the Base Map Mechanic needs to be fixed before its potential to become the next eSport SuperBowl imho.

You can argue with the NFL that their model based upon a Team Identity will fail & should be thrown out in favor of an Alliance of Football Players.

I don’t think the NFL, however, will agree to your idea that they need to throw out their whole franchise that is built upon unique Team Identities in favor of an Alliance of Football Players.

This is what needs to be done to fix the Current Base Map Mechanic in my opinion at least…it’s not perfect, but it fixes the core reason why Server vs Server mode is broken imho.

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Reboot the Base Map Mechanic & Population

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The concept I’m trying to bring to the table will be a good change for the future of WvW imho.

It offers a simple fix to the Server vs. Server mode & encourages the unique Team Identity culture that’s proven to be highly successful & lucrative by the NFL Superbowl franchise…imho.

Diku

Saw this posted in another Topic thread & wanted to share the concept difference between Color Alliances vs Team Names.

COLOR ALLIANCE

Green. Purple. – Susan Ivanova and Drazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcBTOU7RvbU

Splatoon green vs purple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96hXIOk69Y

TEAM NAMES

Top 10 Super Bowls of All-Time | #1: Steelers vs. Cardinals (Super Bowl XLIII) | NFL Films
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7HYCc41oT4

Top 10 Super Bowl Plays: #1 David Tyree’s Helmet Catch | NFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCAQsEwyCcg

Fuzzion.2504:

CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF PLSSSS

Sorry, but I’m not giving away things. I stopped playing GW1, but I still logon to peek every so often. I’ll probably do the same for GW2 out of nostalgia. Good try though…never hurts to ask.

@Fellfoot

Long Live Copper Mud!

s,s,e,e,d,open trap,d,close trap,e,e,e,n,sit,/grin

How many gold rings did you get on reboot?

Hung up my Mudding days many…many years ago, and will soon need to retire from GW2 based on the trend that WvW is going.

It’s not as fun anymore.

The New WvW tastes horrible imho.

They can have New WvW for all I care.

I still prefer Classic WvW & will retire when the time comes.

Spent way too much time waiting for the Reboot for Gold Rings in our old Diku Mud days…but at least there was going to be a reboot.

The 3D Diku Mud that we dreamed about became a reality.

The next frontier that I dreamed about back then…was to create the next SuperBowl of eSport…which ANet will sadly miss getting it right…imho.

I wonder if Scott Adams the creator of Dillbert ever worked as a Game Software Developer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilbert

@Swagger

You should consider applying for a career as the PR person for ANet. You could make a lot of money with your skill.

You seem to be the foremost & most outspoken advocate of Megaserver on this forum imho. You’re so clued in too.

Still waiting for you to explain How Megaserver in detail will allow Server Switch Up to happen that the OP is asking for.

Swagger.1459:

I play 0 now because because it’s boring as all get out and it’s too few players spread too thin… I like mass fights, not all the other boring stuff that wvw has to offer.

I like rewards too, so wvw sucks for that as well…

Rather watch paint dry than do wvw currently…

Yeah 842 silver, but I got the drift of wvw at 1… Spent enough time in pvp, rvr and arena settings for many years to know about this game and what it needs…

You’ll be back when they start handing out legendaries

Why aren’t you playing EotM there’s lots of people there & you earn WvW rewards too.

I’ll speak for myself, but I’m sure there are others that may feel the same.

Honestly, if things go as you advocate…

I’ll probably give up playing Guild Wars after playing it for 10+ years.

The passion for it is dwindling. You’re just helping the process for me to quit playing.

Which imho…is a good thing.

Also, will probably not be buying any future expansions to this series once I can drop this gaming habit for good.

Time could be better spent somewhere else trading stock, or doing a side business.

Megaserver will make WvW more fun according to you…because there’s lots of people playing together so it should be more fun.

You also mentioned that EotM is successful because of a Megaserver Base Map Mechanic, but you’re not playing EotM yourself? Why?

I still don’t understand how Megaserver will handle the Match-Ups.

You should create a Topic Thread on Megaserver imho. You’re such a strong advocate of the concept. That way people can see the details behind how the Megaserver Base Map Mechanic will work to change the Match-Up that the OP is asking for.

You already spend more time here in the forum than in game.

You can have GW2 WvW with Megaserver. You deserve it.

Glad for all the clued in people…

Who play how much WvW per day?

Anyway…it’s all yours.

Enjoy…I’ll pass on the New WvW.

ANet will be highly successful with these people’s vision & feedback using mega/alliance stuff…

GW2 will be very lucrative based on these people’s advice that are casual players to WvW. Happy for them.

Enjoy

Posted with sarcasm

Some people are clueless as ever.

No vision & no fundamental concept…imho.

No thanks, but it’s time for me to move on & these changes are making the process easier to do.

10+ Years playing Guild Wars. It’s good to be able to break a habit of gaming that is useless time spent earning something that has no tangible value in real life imho.

Thank you ANet…

Soon to be Ex-Loyal Guild Wars fan

Already, an Ex-Diku Mud Addict.

Old school mmorpg gamers would know what this means.

DeWolfe.2174:

My thoughts on this was, we should have a drop down list of all servers on the WvW panel. Every week we select which server we’d like to play against. Then, before Anet pulls the lever on reset, this voting get’s factored in as a Glicko modifier. Something to help give a more favorable chance to role another matchup. Though stable enough to not allow blowouts which would be a good awful blow to an already fragile game mode.

Chuckles

Should, Would, or Does work…which is better?

How much coding does ANet need to do?

@Shazmataz

Thank you for the bump & feedback.

This proposal isn’t perfect, but go back to the Very 1st post & look for the FAQ and Answers section.

There’s a few explanations there…it might not be the answer you agree with, but it’s an alternative that at least preserves sever pride…which this topic is trying to build upon constructively.

Chuckles…you did read the FAQ right? Just checking…if you did…sorry this solution isn’t your cup of tea.

Yours truly,
Diku

p.s.
I stopped doing pm…players don’t really care.

Those that do care end up arguing with a lot of mean & bitter players that ANet hasn’t learned to deal with.

Updating Proposal will stop once this thread gets too old.

Thank you for helping to fine tune this proposal.

Updated the following based on player feedback from

Swagger.1459
Nikola.3841

Please…Reboot the Current Population – One Time Free Transfer

Population Reboot & Time Zone/Language Label

Population Reboot

All Players emailed 1 Free Pass to change their Chosen Globe. Account Bound with an Expiration Date set by ANet

Reboot allows Communities to re-form around Time Zone & Language

Time Zone & Language helps to Label the Globe Community that forms there

It helps players choose the right Globe to call Home

Time Zone Label can be changed at a Globe’s Annual Voting event

Time Zone & Label Mechanics Do Not prevent players from doing anything in WvW

Events – PvE & WvW

Current
…WvW – Into the Oasis (with HoT release)

Removed
…WvW – Breakout (with HoT release)

…WvW – Borderland PvP Blood Lust Buff (with HoT release)

Spent the evening deleting GW2 Favorites from IE Browser.

Still playing, but the passion isn’t the same. It’s slowly drifting away.

@Nikola

To be honest…Past history on the Orb of Power might not support adding this back in as an Event.

Need to be careful not to code too many Base Map Mechanic Events that could impact performance.

But, if they took out the Central PvE Laser Event…hmmm.

Which reminds me…I have to add it to the below…the PvE Laser Event with release of HoT.

Current proposal for Events are as follows:

PART III – Expanded Details of Major Mechanics & Triggers v.39

j) Events – PvE & WvW

Current
…PvE – Hero Challenges
…PvE – Jumping Puzzles – Mistwrought Vault & Obsidian Sanctum
…WvW – Breakout (with HoT release) – Removal Pending
…WvW – Borderland PvP Blood Lust Buff
…WvW – Eternal Battle Mercenaries
…WWW – Tournament Seasons – Rewards based on WvW Home Globe Rank
…WvW – Weekly Reset
…WvW – Guild Missions (with HoT release) – See related – [Reward System-Guild-Player]

Not Implemented

…WvW – New Globe Launch Queue – New Globe launches once enough players (ANet to determine number) have paid gems in advance & selected a matching Time Zone. Players are immediately charged gems & moved to new Globe when it does launch. Percent to launch & matching Time Zone displayed to players.

…WvW – Weekly Reset for Geographic Theaters of War are assigned different reset times based on Time Zone

…WvW – Weekly or Monthly Battle Leagues – Rewards based on WvW Home Globe Rank

…WvW – Annual Home Globe Theater’s Time Zone Re-Election by WvW Vote Ballot NPC

@Nikola

Hmmm…very interesting.

Actually this sounds like the Old WvW Orb of Power Event.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Orb_of_Power

Might not be advisable based on it’s past history of hacking & in-balance.

In the November 1st, 2012 update Orbs were removed from the game, due to hacking and balance issues.

Will still think about it though…just trying to figure out how players would abuse this.

It does bear merit…to provide a very strong incentive to getting your relic back.

@Nikola

I’ll pass on that DAOC mechanic.

I’m not quite understanding it & it’s definitely not part of the Base Map Mechanic that is being proposed here.

One thing that I understood was the passion of players is important.

I have to agree, players that fight for a greater cause…that is their World Team…can be very emotional.

I’d like to see that kind of crazy passion in the epic WvW battles fought between staunch & bitter rivalries that I can envision it to be.

Sadly…Whatever ANet did up till this point is…

Sunk Cost

Some bad decisions can’t be fixed by throwing more resources at it, or tweaking it.

imho

Cornerstone needs to be set correctly or the whole skyscraper will not build as tall as you want it to.

A building could collapse or function poorly if the Base Design isn’t built on a solid fundamental design.

The core needs to be Team Based.

All lucrative Sports are Team Based & have a Solid Identity.

Franchise…is that a marketing term? Well it applies here…for ANet to consider.

Ok…you can bring up Tennis…but that’s like sPvP.

As an example:

NFL SuperBowl is darn successful on having multiple teams compete…and high school players dream of making it into the NFL.

One thing about high school, college, and professional football…is that they all share a team identity at its core.

ANet’s skyscraper for WvW will be limited if they choose the wrong cornerstone to build with.

Choose wrong…and you’ll get the best Shoot Em Up game ever that’s based on anonymous random teams, but ANet will never have the ability to be the next eSport SuperBowl & setting up a Franchise model if they really care about the bottom line.

Hmmm…speaking for myself & not others. Professional sports is a good example to use.

I think many players are motivated to play for their Guild or Server for camaraderie.

It’s this shared Camaraderie/Pride that has the potential to nurture a strong sense of community.

It’s this kind of Pride that creates a Strong Sense of Community which is the backbone behind many Good & Hard Fought Rivalries imho.

A really exciting Football season between staunch or bitter Rivals leads to a successful NFL SuperBowl.

The core message still goes back to Pride based on a unique identity…it starts out in High School, grows in College, and peaks in Professional Sports…this concept of Team Pride.

We need to build WvW around this unique pride…

World Server is a very large slew of people in one sweep…

Guild size can be small or large…

They all share one thing in common…a unique identity & pride.

This Topic thread is discussing the merits of Server Pride.

I’d recommend that you create a New Topic Thread to discuss any Megaserver Based Solution or ideas to avoid provoking arguments here.

@Loosmaster

Chuckles, but I’d stop posting too if another solution gets revealed.

Yeah…you’re right. Need to modify the proposal.

Please…Reboot the Current Population – One Time Free Transfer

All Players emailed 1 Free Pass to change their Chosen Globe.

Account Bound with an Expiration Date

Nobody really “Kicked Off”.

Apologies…Appreciate the Feedback & Correction.

No word from ANet. Doing anything except Constructively & Positively discussing this concept could cause a Topic removal. Even if they did get in touch with me…I’d probably be bound not to discuss any details.

Proposal does shake up the population, but keep in mind the following:

All Players are allowed to return to their Old Server transformed into New Globe

Reboot allows Communities to re-form around Time Zone & Language

Time Zone & Language helps to Label the Globe Community that forms there

It helps players choose the right Globe to call Home

Time Zone Label can be changed at a Globe’s Annual Voting event

Time Zone & Label Mechanics Do Not prevent players from doing anything in WvW

Megaserver Based Solution advocates…please create your own Topic Thread to discuss your ideas seperately from this Server Based Solution Topic Thread.

I’ll promise to respect your Topic Thread and not disrupt or discredit your ideas in your Topic Thread.

This proposal is not perfect, but at least it allows players to go where the fun is without sacrificing Server Pride & Identity.

Once the Base Map Mechanic is replaced…Server/Globe Loyalty & Passion can be used to fuel the battles that will rage across all Globes.

Any system that automatically manipulates match-ups on behalf of the players will do this poorly imho.

This Server based solution lets players decide their own match-ups individually…while collectively encouraging a War between Worlds on a massive scale.

Yours truly,
Diku

Megaserver & Server Based Solutions are highly emotional and polar opposites…that if left un-checked will break down into heated arguments.

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