Lots of people were complaining before that there wasn’t much end game and they left. Im on jade quarry which is usually a full server but I dont know how accurate that is. I sometimes play with an alt and its pretty painful not seeing anybody in the lower level zones. Its not even about Wow, people keep saying wow this wow that.. Its just the MMO genre itself, there is already a standard in what people expect in MMO’s and the truth is at this point the game feels handicapped in a way that you cant go any further in it. Handicapping in an MMO is pretty fail in todays standards imo. You can get away with that in a single player rgp but not an MMO. This is 2012 now MMO’s should be getting bigger and bigger. Handicapping players is not the solution. jmo
That’s funny. I can’t seem to recall any thread complaining about the lack of stat progression reaching over six thousand posts. Could it be confirmation bias?
As for handicapping players, isn’t that exactly what you’re doing by shoehorning new tiers into the game making casual players incapable of competing? Yes, I believe it is. Instead of hiding behind superior statistics try to hone your skills.
There hasn’t been any thread to my knowledge asking for new stats. There were lots about not having anything to do for endgame though. I honestly don’t mind having to get new gear as long as its not super hard to get.
I dont think its handicapping players by shoehorning new tiers. See this is what I’m trying to say, this is an MMO. people play mmo’s and worry about their own character not everybody elses. If you put in the time to get were your at then you deserve it. I for one am probably never going to be able to get a nice legendary but you know what, the people that have it deserve it no matter if they cheated coverting gems to gold or whatever, its their business not mine, im not controlling their character. If somebody has a new tier or whatever Im not gonna be mad because were not equal in power, Id say good job man you worked and put in the time for that. you deserve it.
Legendarys have the same stats. There are videos of anet saying this is how it is. If they go back on that. I don’t know what else to say about this company. I was a loyal fan. I played GW1 for over 7 years. I expect some level of respect and honesty from them. But they just keep lying to cover up other lies and according to this thread, I’m not the only one fed up with it.
There is no gap between legendarys and exotics. The stats are the same. This is bogus.
It’s obviously damage control but there it is. They obviously have no intention of holding this back so I can only wish them luck from here on out. They’ll need it.
I just hope they understand what the problem is once the numbers starts dropping.
They could have easily added exotics with infusion slots without adding a whole new level of gear and avoided this whole issue.
Well, it’s now been confirmed that Ascended is a pure upgrade there to fill the gap between exotic and legendary. So you can all lay that discussion to rest and focus on what actually matters.
There is no gap between legendarys and exotics. The stats are the same. This is bogus.
Another false promise from Anet. Once you get your max stat gear you don’t need to worry about a gear treadmill. Now all of a sudden there will be better gear. Lets just start adding legendarys to the gem shop since at this point half of the stuff this game promised to be has been a lie.
That would also be a reasonable thing to give level 400 crafters.
Yeah, keep dreaming. They’re not going to give a trade skill something that so directly competes with a gem shop item. Selling a one-time-use gem shop item is the reason this game had a bad cosmetic system in the first place. Compare it to Lord of the Rings Online, that simply has separate slots for your looks (and not just “town clothes”), for example. You don’t have to consume a piece of armor to keep your stats and change your appearance in the game. They do not have any cosmetic system at all for weapons, however.
Or; GW2 is gigantic and ambitious and they went with a system that was easier to implement and manage.
I’m not really as convinced of the gem store conspiracies for everything as most people.
I’ve got 15 fine transmutation stones sitting in my bank without spending a penny, and I’m only at 50% world completion.
How is it easier to implement? They already did it with town clothes, which cannot be worn in combat, just not armor.
An overriding cosmetic slot system sounds more complex to me. That said I don’t really know.
They did it in GW1. Costume slot overwrote the armor slot as far as looks. GW2 is using a modified version of the GW1 engine. I imagine its a lot simpler than you believe it is.
“Both Halloween and Christmas are pagan holidays. Celebrated by various cultures. If anything the Halloween we all know is an American holiday. And Christmas is just a borrowed pagan holiday. In any case, stop whining about the holidays. There is plenty of lore in game to accommodate them.”
used to be pagan but were adopted and changed by christians to facilitate the assimilation of conquered peoples. just like christmas and nearly every other christian holiday. point is, they are christian now.
then of course there’s the whole thing about thanksgiving being to celebrate the return of soldiers after they went and slaughtered a bunch of native americans but i won’t get into that.
regardless of what the religions are, i don’t see why they should be in this game when there’s perfectly good backstories that could be used to create holidays that are actually relevant to the game.
It is easier to get people to celebrate holidays they’re already familiar with. Also, Wintersday is actually the celebration of the New Year.
If you want alot of skills, play the engineer, go for a build that focus on kits and you can have 34 skills which is way more than any other class. Also there is ALOT of variaton in this game if you get bored then try a new build that uses other weapons
Well said, so many ppl complain about lack of variety, but won’t experiment with weapons and utilities.
I hope not because these types of events go on for too long and are generally annoying. Says someone who usually doesn’t care but got every holiday achiement for the current event. I still find it mostly annoying, it was just something to do.
The costume brawling was the most annoying of it but I guess it kind of fits since most players seem to have a preschooler mentality and that activity was perfect for them.
It’ll be extra annoying if it’s the exact same thing every year, like it always is in the game which shall not be named.
I’m curious, does Tyria magically have the same holidays at the same time the country known as the United States does
Dunno why people freak out over what AMERICAN developers do with their games, like events, release dates, etc. If it bothers you so much, stick to playing games made in your own country.
That said, it is kind of goofy to think that in-game holidays coincide with RL holidays, even if that’s probably the best way to do it so that the feeble minded average player doesn’t burst a synapse.
Costume brawl was just as optional as the rest of the event. Just because you don’t enjoy them doesn’t mean others don’t.
Have they announced their intentions on adding an actual dungeon/group queue system?
I don’t care about your feelings on the subject and this isn’t here for a debate about if it is good or bad. Again: I don’t care if you want it or not… honestly: no offense in that statement.
I just want to know if any official word is out yet.
Thanks!
Just the same old from the past. they know we want it. They added it to the list. No word on when it will be added yet.
To be frank, I’ve never been too keen on real world Holiday events in MMOs at all. Regardless how they do it, it still feels like the real world holiday, which is really immersion-breaking. Plus, they are mostly just really cheesy and boring.
I know I’m in the minority, and there’s no way these things are going anywhere, but I just felt like venting a little. Carry on.
Immersion-breaking? Like a UI on your screen? Or magical banks that hold the exact items the bank in the other town holds? Or delivery pigeons that can track you down instantly and get to you in under a second to drop off mail(while potentially carrying heavy pieces of armor)? Or carrying bags with “slots”? Or any of another thousand potential immersion breaking things that make no sense to worry about?
WvW is fun, And don’t you ever compare it to WoW PvP. Which is just terrible. Anyway, The monthly is “forcing” me to do dungeons, dungeons suck and aren’t fun at all. But I will either do them or I won’t.
why can’t they expand on in game holidays or create ones that actually make sense with the situation instead of shoehorning in holidays that make no sense. there’s so many things they could do. have a festival for each race, remember a big battle with things you can pin to your character etc…
would it be so hard to create a holiday around the six gods instead of forcing in a christian holiday that makes no sense like they did with halloween?
Both Halloween and Christmas are pagan holidays. Celebrated by various cultures. If anything the Halloween we all know is an American holiday. And Christmas is just a borrowed pagan holiday. In any case, stop whining about the holidays. There is plenty of lore in game to accommodate them.
GW1 had a thanksgiving event. It was usually just thanksgiving weekend. But things like pumpkin pie and pumpkin cookies dropped as loot. Nothing big and special. But I’d be upset if they didn’t do this.
I disagree, I don’t want to see “LFG blahblahblah” every 5 seconds just like I don’t want to see goldspammers. Both are equally annoying and spammy to me. IF you want to get a group use the LFG tool, and supplement it with the occasional lfg chat.
@Tuccos
Just because he pointed out the flaw in your argument doesn’t make him off-topic.
There are at least 15 skills per class. Some classes get even more. Its not anybodys fault but your own that you lack the ability to be creative.
@everybody who is agreeing with Tuccos
LOL
@everybody else who is intelligent enough to enjoy a game that requires skill and planning beyond just pasting 100 skills onto a hotbar and spamming them. Good job.
I too have a full time job, and i’m certainly not suggesting it can’t be addressed. I think a timer would be a great addition to the daily window, however that’s not going to change the fact that you may not be able to get your dailies done in that time frame. I certainly don’t make mine every day, even knowing when they do reset.
Monthlies should and do reset @ the same time as dailies, it makes perfect sense to me that they reset @ 12 GMT. It’s not ideal for my schedule, but it’s not ideal for a lot of others either. Which is why i suggested, if it’s important to you, not to wait till the last night of the month to complete them. I’m just not sure making them reset midnight server time is really going to help that many complete them any easier.
I’ve been close quite a few times and they’ve reset on me, sure extending the time frame for me would be ideal, but certainly unfair to other time zones. There are often other, more pressing priorities that i typically tend to rather than finishing my daily or monthlies in game.
Yes i agree there should be better info (not just achievement based either), but as far as the reset timer, it’s midnight somewhere at the top of every hour, why would mine be anymore important then any others.
It’s called a monthly achievement, not a 29.566 days achievement. If they want it to end before the month is up where I live, then a timer would be appropriate as to when it actually ends, because the way it’s set up now is nonsensical to people who live in timezones that are not GMT. I don’t really care if this is a worldwide game, that doesn’t help me in my timezone.
There’s no such thing as ‘waiting’ until the end of the month to complete something when you have limited time to budget, and if a monthly achievement is going to reset before the month is finished I’d like a heads up.
By your logic, you still get the whole months worth of time. As it starts “before” the month begins.
It resets on the first of every month in GMT time. This has happened every time since launch. These posts are annoying.
How do you post on a thread with a blatant lie. Get upset when the lie is called out. Then try to blame everybody else as the immature ones?
The statue has a lot of value to the lore of the world. Of course it will be rebuilt when it is destroyed.
Doubtful, hes just making kitten up from what I can find.
According to rumors and sources, a statue that represented a Lion that was placed to hover over a globe, that represented Tyria, with the fishes and ships surrounding that globe; will not be rebuilt and thus instead, a new monument will be built in its place.
It is said that the area will have two smaller Lions in its place and will be positioned in a way to form an archway representing a door way into the Mad King’s realm. This doorway will be sealed by a barrier, that may or may not wane in power, coming next Halloween.
Surrounded by the Lions, will be lush greenery composed of single tree similar to a willow tree. Among the area will be a couple of pillars that represents fishes in honor of the Quaggan.
This indeed is a sad day and to those that made screenshots or dance videos near this grand monument before its destruction. Treasure those memories.
Note: It was speculated that some of the community, sent in complaints, about the positioning of the Lion, in representation, and thus made a lot of concerns that it suggested many of inappropriate ideas. Thus hence the change.
I’ll believe this nonsense when anet comments on it or it happens. Until then it is just more nonsense for people to cry about.
@Kimbald,
Alright, I’ll step back and change my opinion on the second chance part. I re-read some of anets postings on the matter. And it certainly did sound like they thought the chances were too low and then didn’t change them.
The Chaar appear to have adopted this holiday. The children, at least:
“It’s Hellow… Halla… it’s Candy Day!”
That line made me chuckle. Charr cubs sound so un-charr like.
The Priory has set up camps in Queensdale, Metrica Province, the Plains of Ashford, Caledon Forest, and Wayfarer Foothills
Most of my concerns have been brushed away by this statement. I’m still worried about how wintersday will be pulled off though. They’re tied down by lore set in place before there were 5 races, and I can’t imagine the writers are liking that tie down much more than I am.
Wintersday is an annual event which celebrates the Tyrian New Year according to the Mouvelian calendar and Dynastic Reckoning. It is the celebration of the end of the Season of the Colossus and the beginning of the Season of the Zephyr, decided through the outcome of a battle between the gods, Grenth and Dwayna.
Perhaps other races adopted the Calendar, or even adopted the holiday. I know non-Christians who celebrate Christmas. And since Christmas itself borrows from pagan holidays, I am sure we will see all of the races enjoying the festivities.
This guy probably lives in the same timezone as mine, it’s also happening at 3am on Monday here. I’m from the Philippines, and we have a decent amount of player base in our server at least (Isles of Janthir). Unlike him though, I’m not complaining. Just clarifying on the timezone issue.
No, I assume he was told 3 and mistook it for am when it is pm, he said 3am EST, which is just wrong. It is 3 pm EST.
three book pages are in human zones. but well thats okay, this is only act 1 and its also only halloween :P maybe other races will have their time for other holidays who knows
They’re in Human areas because they’re about the “Mad” King Thorn. He was a human king. And the holiday is all about him.
3 PM is such a terrible time on a Sunday to hold an event. /sarcasm
Have a nice life.
Anet heard their cries and gave them all second chances with the mad king chests. By then they should have understood the odds. They played again, and continued to cry when those didn’t pan out. How can you say this isn’t people with entitlement issues?
I guess I agree that people should not have expected anything good after the first round of awful, but that isn’t really anything to brag about. You’re still razzing people who got nothing either time for acting “entitled”?
Fill one hand with “chances” and kitten in the other, then see which one fills up first. I’m going to flip a quarter. If it lands on heads I’m going to mail you $1000. Sorry, it landed on tails (you can take my word for it). I hope you feel grateful for my intentions.
Some people received actual items. If we could prove without a doubt that not a single person in the game received their promised rewards, I would agree with your comparison. However as it stands, it makes no sense.
@AXEL
I agree, but since they weren’t I still think as the current system they have in place. They did nothing wrong.
@Kimbald.2697 If you read my other posts on these forums, I’m far from the type of person to blindly defend anet. I just got off a forum suspension for quite the opposite.
However I just disagree with these people. I think they’re use to other games where things are handed to you. I understand what you think their expectations were, I don’t understand their responses. If they thought they were going to be given these items with such good odds. Why did they feel the need to spend hundreds of dollars on keys before hand?
They got better odds, when they were given extra chests to try to open. Even if the technical odds remained the same the act of opening extra free chests gave them better odds.
These holidays are already tied to Humans through the lore of GW1. More importantly the event takes place in Lions Arch, which is a mixed race city. There are pumpkins in Metrica Province and other such starting zones. I don’t see the issue here?
Anet heard their cries and gave them all second chances with the mad king chests. By then they should have understood the odds. They played again, and continued to cry when those didn’t pan out. How can you say this isn’t people with entitlement issues?
Keep hating on the best paying and most supportive customers, all you’re doing is shooting yourself in the foot.
This is what supportive looks like: Hey I didn’t win but I am glad I supported a good company and a terrific game.
This is what supportive doesn’t look like: I didn’t win so I demand my money back and I hate Arenanet and the game.
Another supportive look that you seem to have forgotten: Hey I didn’t win and spent a healthy amount of money on your advertisement. I think the way you advertised this is misleading. You should look at your actions.
Why is this supportive? Because you need to let them know that their actions have long term effects on their company. A company touts itself as being UPFRONT but has shown at several times it has not been UPFRONT.
I complain when I believe they have done something wrong so that they will hopefully do the right thing the next time.
Could you let me know what they weren’t upfront about?
They stated a chance. Not stating in the emails or anywhere on the landing page for the keys did it state the skins and holiday items that were added to the chests were RARE. By using general statements of chance that leads a person to believe there is a reasonable rate of drop. Using the excuse that you got other items isn’t valid as if the person wanted those items they would have bought keys before the event to get random stuff. These keys were touted because the chests had items added for halloween. Based on the drop rate of items we get from them most people would assume they would have had rates of drops similar to things like the black lion salvage kits, or fine trans gems, etc.
Instead you can have people open 100-200 chests and not get a skin.
Go see Mc Donalds when they have a promotion they list chances on anything from a drink all the way up to the grand prize. That’s upfront.
And yet a lot of others opened 10-15 chests and got items. It was chance that gave them these items. Its called a chance for a reason. Having to state rare next to chance is just redundant when the chest drops so many different items.
Dinks,
They said you have a chance of winning 1 of 6 skins… that could easily be construed as getting one skin out of the 6 when you open any given chest… not nothing at all. The fact that it fooled this many people proves that it was not well written REGARDLESS if it was in fact written CORRECTLY. And if your like me and just saw the “Discover the secrets of the black lion chest” in game… then the word chance was never even mentioned. Are you trying to tell me that I need to go look at websites and forums every time they advertise something in game because it can not be trusted? Because if you tell me that I need to do research before I make a purchase… that says something VERY bad about the company selling it. Anet played off of peoples trust. Period.
Discover the secrets of the black lion chests has been in game since launch. It had nothing to do with the Halloween event…
Keep hating on the best paying and most supportive customers, all you’re doing is shooting yourself in the foot.
This is what supportive looks like: Hey I didn’t win but I am glad I supported a good company and a terrific game.
This is what supportive doesn’t look like: I didn’t win so I demand my money back and I hate Arenanet and the game.
Another supportive look that you seem to have forgotten: Hey I didn’t win and spent a healthy amount of money on your advertisement. I think the way you advertised this is misleading. You should look at your actions.
Why is this supportive? Because you need to let them know that their actions have long term effects on their company. A company touts itself as being UPFRONT but has shown at several times it has not been UPFRONT.
I complain when I believe they have done something wrong so that they will hopefully do the right thing the next time.
Could you let me know what they weren’t upfront about?
They stated a chance. Not stating in the emails or anywhere on the landing page for the keys did it state the skins and holiday items that were added to the chests were RARE. By using general statements of chance that leads a person to believe there is a reasonable rate of drop. Using the excuse that you got other items isn’t valid as if the person wanted those items they would have bought keys before the event to get random stuff. These keys were touted because the chests had items added for halloween. Based on the drop rate of items we get from them most people would assume they would have had rates of drops similar to things like the black lion salvage kits, or fine trans gems, etc.
Instead you can have people open 100-200 chests and not get a skin.
Go see Mc Donalds when they have a promotion they list chances on anything from a drink all the way up to the grand prize. That’s upfront.
And yet a lot of others opened 10-15 chests and got items. It was chance that gave them these items. Its called a chance for a reason. Having to state rare next to chance is just redundant when the chest drops so many different items.
The shoe store thing is a little different. He didn’t get what he was promised. And has every right to complain about it. Anet never promised everybody anything from those chests. They promised them a chance at something from those chests. Then they even gave people a second chance with the mad king chests.
Dinks, i answered that by explaining how each gambling or lottery venue is legally obliged to list the odds.
Just to be sure that no angry mob would come out shouting that they didn’t get what they expected.I explained how the law would be on the side of the angry mob.
You haven’t answered that at all, yet you continue to use the same argument even though i proved it wrong.
You didn’t prove anything wrong. They’re not a casino. They don’t have to live up to a casinos regulations. The gamble aspect can be played with in game currency. Is Anet require to list the odds of a mob dropping a bag and then the odds of that bag having jute? Nope, and since keys are just as easily obtainable by gold as they are real money. The real money aspect of the gamble is a choice.
The shoe store thing is a little different. He didn’t get what he was promised. And has every right to complain about it. Anet never promised everybody anything from those chests. They promised them a chance at something from those chests. Then they even gave people a second chance with the mad king chests.
While I like your suggestion, the costumes at the moment are not per character but account bound. Any character on your account can wear it and you can withdraw it from you bank with any of them. But I agree that the costume makers add a more friendly approach.
Well, they’re account bound. but only one character can wear it at a time. Also they’re limited time costumes. So once the event ends if you accidently destroy it or run out of space and get rid of it, you can’t even buy it again. GW1 was very alt friendly and GW2 was advertised as alt friendly. But somehow we’re expected to buy the costume twice to use it on multiple characters at the same time. We’re also expected to store a ton of costumes and hats. I’d recommend a town clothes collectibles tab or a costume maker.
I can’t say 100% they’d make more money if they just sold the skins, because I don’t know how much money they’re making right now. But I can add my input that I would have bought a skin or two.
Basic Business Practices:
People who spent money have the loudest voice in this. They spent the money. Business’ rely on repeat business to generate income. Therefore, people who have bought that product have the loudest say. Period. It’s how business works.
Stop telling those people that complaining isn’t right. That’s how things get fixed. Period. If nobody complained, they would think all was right with the world. Which it quite obviously isn’t.
Nothing is broken… I spent $100 this event. I threw maybe $15 into keys. Because that is what I limited myself on a gamble. I didn’t get anything. I tried my second chances with the mad king chests. I got nothing. Moving on, I bought my costumes and some random other stuff.
I’m not going to cry or feel pity for people that are. Nobody told them to gamble hundreds of dollars. It was described as a “chance” to get limited time skins. They chose to throw hundreds of dollars at a “chance”. Every day people play the lottery. People don’t always win, and when they do its only a tiny percentage of people who do. Would we be defending those people if they came out and formed a giant lynch mob because they didn’t win the lottery even though they’ve thrown hundreds of dollars into it?
You bought gems, you bought keys. Your feedback is exactly what ArenaNet wants. In this case “I thought it was very reasonable” and be done. There’s no reason to take it further than that.
Once again, this isn’t a lottery. It’s a game, with chance items. Big difference. Some folks put money into that chance system (doesn’t matter how much, cause that’s their choice). Those people are entitled to their feelings on the matter, regardless of whether you or I think they’re right. They have the right to give their feedback to ArenaNet. They have the right to show displeasure, regardless of whether you think it’s childish/foolish/stupid or not.
I am defending a consumer’s right to give feedback without feeling Vilified for it. The fact that the forums are the way to send ArenaNet feedback shouldn’t result in anybody complaining about a service being bullied over the internet. I wouldn’t allow it in my store, I wouldn’t allow it in my restaurant, and i wouldn’t allow it in my game.
You’re telling me, you believe nobody would call somebody an idiot if they got exactly what they paid for and still complained?
Two costumes in Costume Brawl have stuck out to me as being exceptionally powerful, so powerful that my desire to play CB dries up immediately upon seeing anyone using them. These are the Mad King’s outfit and Boxing Gloves. The reason I can’t stand playing against these is because it is next to impossible to do anything to these players due to the skills they possess.
The Mad King’s Outfit gives a player a toy which has two skills in particular on it that cause trouble. One skill deals one point of damage and inflicts fear upon all other players near the user. The other skill dazes and deals a point of damage each second to nearby players for a few seconds. These skills on their own are probably not that lethal. However, my experience is that the cooldowns of these skills are so low that they can be chained together with little downtime. The result is that anybody close enough to the user will be prevented from doing anything. Other players will spend most of their time either being dazed or having fear, both cases not allowing the player to use skills. Fighting this costume at close range is near impossible. Fighting at range is not much easier either, because few (if any) costumes have good ranged attacks. If the Mad King player closes the gap between themselves and the ranged user, they chain their fear and daze skills and shut down the ranged user completely again. While not having a totally impenetrable defense, this costume offers a great deal of control and combines it with a lot of damage as well.
The Boxing Gloves take a slightly different approach of being impossible to defeat. Instead of controlling other players with fear and daze, the Boxing Gloves offer skills that allow the player to permanently maintain Brawler Protection. With this buff, others players are unable to do any damage to a player with that buff. Boxing Gloves allow this buff to be on the user all the time. While this buff is in place, the boxer can still use skills to damage other players, such as their knockdown ability or their rapid punches. Their protection skill alone makes them impossible to defeat, but having these great damage skills on top of it all makes every boxer a complete bully to every other brawler around them.
While Costume Brawl is likely intended to just be a casual and fun format, that doesn’t mean it should be devoid of balance. I can not imagine that there are many players in the game who would appreciate playing CB or find it fun if they understood just how much stronger these two costumes are than anything else in the game. For me, I can say that there is nothing fun about playing CB when I face these players against whom I can do nothing. Each of these costumes need to be toned down so that they at least offer some window of opportunity for players to attack them.
The daze and fear skills on the Mad King’s scepter need to have their recharges increased by about two to five seconds each. The daze skill in particular should be toned down in an additional way, such as only dealing daze on the initial hit.
The Boxing Gloves should not be able to maintain Brawler Protection indefinitely. Good ratios of protection to recharge would be anywhere between 1:2 and 1:3. Alternatively, use of this skill could daze the user for as long as the protection lasts, effectively preventing the user from both blocking all damage and dealing some damage at the same time.
In the future, I would hope that new costumes and toys do not offer the same levels of control, protection, and damage as demonstrated by these two costumes.
Yeah! disable the Mad Kings only attacks for 4 seconds! so he can be useless! and Screw boxing gloves! I suck at every costume I use so screw those other people!
Meanwhile most of the people I see with the champion crown above their heads are skeletons and zombies.
Basic Business Practices:
People who spent money have the loudest voice in this. They spent the money. Business’ rely on repeat business to generate income. Therefore, people who have bought that product have the loudest say. Period. It’s how business works.
Stop telling those people that complaining isn’t right. That’s how things get fixed. Period. If nobody complained, they would think all was right with the world. Which it quite obviously isn’t.
Nothing is broken… I spent $100 this event. I threw maybe $15 into keys. Because that is what I limited myself on a gamble. I didn’t get anything. I tried my second chances with the mad king chests. I got nothing. Moving on, I bought my costumes and some random other stuff.
I’m not going to cry or feel pity for people that are. Nobody told them to gamble hundreds of dollars. It was described as a “chance” to get limited time skins. They chose to throw hundreds of dollars at a “chance”. Every day people play the lottery. People don’t always win, and when they do its only a tiny percentage of people who do. Would we be defending those people if they came out and formed a giant lynch mob because they didn’t win the lottery even though they’ve thrown hundreds of dollars into it?
I don’t mind that it happens, but when nightcappers get the same amount of points for beating on an undefended door as 50 people do for fighting tooth and nail against 50 other people, it doesn’t make sense.
They get more points. Because nobody is there to delay them or stop them. They get uncontested points throughout the entire off-hour hours. Then the prime time hits and all 3 servers are going at it. But its too late to catch up. We’re hours and hours of uncontested points behind.
This is what supportive doesn’t look like: I didn’t win so I demand my money back and I hate Arenanet and the game.
Did you really see a lot of posts with people demanding their money back and/or saying they were done with the entire game? I’ve read an awful lot of complaints, and I think I only saw something along those lines a couple times.
So I’d look at it more like going to your favorite restaurant and telling them that their new dish really sucks.
If you don’t like a dish at a restaurant, then the thing to do is not to order it in the future. Not making a big public scene in an effort to get them to take it off the menu and prevent everyone else from being able to enjoy it in the future.
Well said. Especially since they never made any promises. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/2012-10-22#Black_Lion_Chest_Changes
If people would just notice it says “chance”. They never promised everybody who opened chests anything. Just a chance for items. Gamblers who gamble and then complain when they don’t win need to seek help.
Keep hating on the best paying and most supportive customers, all you’re doing is shooting yourself in the foot.
This is what supportive looks like: Hey I didn’t win but I am glad I supported a good company and a terrific game.
This is what supportive doesn’t look like: I didn’t win so I demand my money back and I hate Arenanet and the game.
Another supportive look that you seem to have forgotten: Hey I didn’t win and spent a healthy amount of money on your advertisement. I think the way you advertised this is misleading. You should look at your actions.
Why is this supportive? Because you need to let them know that their actions have long term effects on their company. A company touts itself as being UPFRONT but has shown at several times it has not been UPFRONT.
I complain when I believe they have done something wrong so that they will hopefully do the right thing the next time.
Could you let me know what they weren’t upfront about?
Maxxian.3980 – Anet has always had different items/costumes/hats for each Holiday event in GW1. They are simply following tradition. Every year you had a chance at getting those items (minus the costumes still could buy those through the store). The only difference I see now is that you have a chance at those items through other means (ie Gems-Keys-Opening BLC’s). To everyone that is an uproar, patience, the event still is playing out. If this event holds true to past GW1 events there will be a chance at the end of the event to turn in everything you’ve collected (that you don’t want) into a chance to obtain something that you do want. The only thing that was guaranteed was the Hat and that was only obtained by doing the final event. Also who wants a “rare” skin everyone else has?
You can still get the free hat in the trading post.
Personally I don’t understand why they wouldn’t repeat the system from GW1 where event finales happened once every 3 hours for a 24 hour period.
That seemed to work for almost everyone. Sometimes there were issues, for example I never got to one of the Wintersday finale’s because they happen on New Years Day and I’m always at either my parents or in-laws house and not able to get in-game. But at least it wasn’t causing problems for everyone in a certain time zone.
If there’s concerns about people “farming” the event or whatever they could always limit any special rewards (or all the rewards) to one per character/account.
Is it so important for you to be online just for a big sparkle?
At least, this is what seems to be, the famous final event. It’s not gonna rain crafted halloween exotic weapons, for sure.
The only one who is gonna stay awake all the night for that final event are asians, not europeans for sure. In fact, i’ll go to sleep, not planning to ruin my daytime cycle for a sparkleAll of the festival finale’s in GW1 included something special for players who attended. Usually a (cosmetic) item unique to that event that you could never get if it you missed it. (At least not until the last year or so when they allowed people to get one of the items they missed per year.) I think it’s reasonable to assume they’ll do something similar in GW2.
Uhm, i didn’t see an ach related to be present on that particular event. A hat or something? I hope not using Black Lion Chests haahah
Nah, i can go to sleep. After all, it’s on youtube right?
There is an achievement called “attended the party” or something. I assume its for that event. The hat is available in the trading post for free since day 1 of the event.
The gem to gold conversion is pretty high right now actually. Also you’re pissed off that you didn’t get a “rare” skin? And this ruins the entire event for you?
If you honestly believe you’re entitled to a “rare” skin then I don’t know how to help you. Try enjoying the event for what it is. A fun enjoyable holiday. If you cannot do this, you’ve lost any sympathy from me.
I just wanted to know what got me suspended. But nothing in my inbox. My last infraction was for 2 weeks prior to my suspension and I was trying to be civil in my postings since then. The system is unclear and doesn’t explain how many points in total you have. How they deteriorate or if they deteriorate. Plus the rules about what warrants an infraction is confusing. I was infracted for some obviously legit things, and then some things that are just .. What? I was definitely an kitten a few of the times I got infracted tho.
I have this problem. It certainly happens on the longer threads. You can still view the threads, just click on the page number and the posts will come back. Still, a fix would be nice. Along with the way the quote and report buttons randomly disappear.
I can only speculate. But since we already got our free hat, I doubt we’re getting a hat this year, so the only thing people will miss is the actual event and maybe the achievement.
With that said. I am tired of Europeans complaining about getting the short stick. BWE’s ended at 2am and 3am for central and eastern time in NA respectively. Europe got all of the stress tests. Anet always times its events based on a PST time. The only people who don’t suffer for it are PST players.
Expecting Anet to wake up in the middle of the night to push an event to you so that you can have it earlier than the rest of the world is a joke. And I can’t believe you actually expect it to happen. We all have times when other people in the world have an advantage because of timezones. The event launched the other day, I had maybe 20 minutes to play because I had work the next day. Europeans were home from work enjoying the event and I was maybe a few hours into my work day depending on where you are in Europe.
As another note, I am from the US and I believe that times should be posted in GMT. Yes, they are based in the US. However, they are also marketing and selling their game to people that aren’t in the US or even North America.
Every game based out of the west coast uses PST as their times. It is UTC -7 as they specify on the event page. Do the math or get over it.