@Azraells.4721
But it isn’t coming out on the 23rd. It is coming out on the 22nd. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
Anet has been releasing their patches at late Pacific time since they launched, and using that day as the patch day. October 7ths patch? Came out That sunday, late night well after midnight eastern on October 7th.
To be mad that they’re sticking to the same patching pattern, is stupid.
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No matter what time zone they launch a patch in. They’re screwing over somebody somewhere. So its best if they do it in a time zone that is most convenient for them.
This is actually quite ridiculous. They should have said it was going live on Oct 23rd. What, is it going to come out at 11:59pm PST? It’s nice to see the first “content update” going so smoothly….
It is 7:30 on the west coast. So I don’t know why you’re complaining. They still have their whole night ahead of them. I don’t even usually have time to get on the computer until 7:30 in a normal work day. My night would just be starting.
I’m so happy for you being on the West Coast. So your saying that the East Coast should suffer?
I live in New York, But its been patched for West Coast times since day 1, so I don’t know why all of a sudden everybody is up in arms about it.
@Dinks.2478
Nah. Afternoon consists of the hours I listed. “Late afternoon” would be at the latest 6PM. The update is late, that’s it.
Got it?
You can’t be late for an update with no time designated to it.
You’re wrong, that’s it.
Got it?
@dresode, i played guild wars 1, for a number of yea
rs , i seem to be missing your point.
I didn’t get his point either. I assume he didn’t play GW1 and then heard somebody make something up and went with it as fact.
@Dagmar
Since you can’t read I’ll link it. https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/260350442876334080
It says Midnight GMT -
Do a little math and this comes out to 5PM Pacific time. Thank you, have a nice day.
This also says midnight GMT, which reinforces the idea that Europeans wouldn’t be getting the update until some time into the 23rd.
Basically, you’re all wrong. Stop whining.
The simple truth is it really doesn’t matter.
If you want to tell people they have created an arbitrary release time don’t ignore the one that was officially given. Afternoon is officially 1PM-6PM. That time has passed, meaning the update missed the given timeline.
This isn’t up for debate, I’m not even annoyed, I haven’t made a single post complaining. Only correcting your false information you have been using to attack people for over an hour. People are overreacting about the delay, but you’re also just as annoying, the only difference is they haven’t been here repeating the same garbage all night.
It is up for debate. They didn’t give you a time. You decided on a time. Got kitten when it didn’t happen. Afternoon isn’t a specific time. It is only 7:30 for them.
Afternoon is the period between noon and evening. The term lacks a precise definition because it was in use long before accurate time-pieces became widespread. Hence, words and phrases that refer to general periods in the day were more practical.
This is actually quite ridiculous. They should have said it was going live on Oct 23rd. What, is it going to come out at 11:59pm PST? It’s nice to see the first “content update” going so smoothly….
It is 7:30 on the west coast. So I don’t know why you’re complaining. They still have their whole night ahead of them. I don’t even usually have time to get on the computer until 7:30 in a normal work day. My night would just be starting.
Your correct about the Pacific Time (-7).
However, how many companies actually dump a patch at 8 pm or later in their own time zone.
Honestly, the majority of the day is gone. Many players have already said patch is not coming and logged off for night (at least in my guild). So the point is kind of useless.
Plus, they missed the original window of this afternoon anyway (unless 8 pm – 9 pm) Pacific is considered afternoon.
I believe afternoon is a mistake, and they intended to say evening. As the times mentioned in https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/260350442876334080 specify evening.
They’ve also been referring to it as evening for a while now.
In any case, Anet gave a date, and no specific time. They haven’t failed to deliver on either of those promises. Anybody that decided to make an arbitrary time for them self and then got pissy when it didn’t come true. You should probably reevaluate things.
@zaxziakohl.5243
It is adding a day, the event is supposed to end on October 31st-nov 1st.
He is whining about losing a day and wants it to go to Nov 1 – Nov 2.
@Dagmar Cleftjaw.2480
Updated timeframe actually says evening. Read some twitter.
Your misinterpreting, he’s talking about the timeframe for EU players being 23rd-2nd, which it will be. If it ends on the 1st for USA it ends on the 2nd for many foreign players. That’s not adding a day….
No, its not supposed to end on the 1st. It ends on the 31st at midnight, which would be the 1st for Europeans.
Give me a quote that says that. They don’t give a specific time. It says on the teaser site October 22nd through November 1st*
*All times and dates are shown in US Pacific Time (UTC -7:00)
That means it could end at any time, likely the same time they would normally update…which would not be midnight.
All of anets events end at midnight of the final day. The 1st being the very end of the 31st.
@zaxziakohl.5243
It is adding a day, the event is supposed to end on October 31st-nov 1st.
He is whining about losing a day and wants it to go to Nov 1 – Nov 2.
@Dagmar Cleftjaw.2480
Updated timeframe actually says evening. Read some twitter.
Of course the updated timeframe was revised. You stated no time has been missed, I corrected that false statement. They missed the expected release, and revised the release window accordingly.
Well no, they didn’t have an actual timeline. Just an estimate. And about 15 hours ago they had changed it to at least 5 pacific on twitter. Then reinforced the idea of a late night release on their twitch stream. If people want to sit around and cry without reading the most up to date information. There is nothing to do for them.
@zaxziakohl.5243
It is adding a day, the event is supposed to end on October 31st-nov 1st.
He is whining about losing a day and wants it to go to Nov 1 – Nov 2.
@Dagmar Cleftjaw.2480
Updated timeframe actually says evening. Read some twitter.
Your misinterpreting, he’s talking about the timeframe for EU players being 23rd-2nd, which it will be. If it ends on the 1st for USA it ends on the 2nd for many foreign players. That’s not adding a day….
No, its not supposed to end on the 1st. It ends on the 31st at midnight, which would be the 1st for Europeans.
@zaxziakohl.5243
It is adding a day, the event is supposed to end on October 31st-nov 1st.
He is whining about losing a day and wants it to go to Nov 1 – Nov 2.
@Dagmar Cleftjaw.2480
Updated timeframe actually says evening. Read some twitter.
@wayshuba
The site says that "
- All times and dates are shown in US Pacific Time (UTC-7:00)"
That is just a disclaimer that the times they specify throughout the site are in that time zone. That isn’t event a specific time. It is just a notice that if they said something like 9pm for example. It is a given that it would refer to 9pm Pacific time.
Why does everyone assume there are problems with the patch?
Normal update time is still 2 hours away. Why makes you think they will update any sooner than they do any other week?
Umm how about 4 years of not having to wait until after 8:55 p.m. of the posted date for release??? You guys saying that I should just wait and to stop complaining need to make your own thread like I did and stop attempting to flame and troll people who don’t care about your opinion, I am speaking for myself and I have made room for others who may feel the same way as I do. On the other hand I have not invited anyone to come and express their feelings of disagreement. Good Evening
That’s not true though. ALL their updates have been extremely late in the evening PST. This is just another update. So you may have spent the last 4 years in another game not waiting…maybe even GW1, but in this game, I’ve already grown used to staying awake late if I want to see the content, which says something. It’s called a pattern….
The 22nd has come and gone for quite a lot of people in the EU. Maybe not for the Americans. There was a reason I said ‘for them’.
Any European player who is upset that they didn’t get to play on the 22nd needs to learn to read their email. Where they were told the event would be live on the 23rd.
yes so where the US dates will be 22nd oct – 1st nov, the EU will be from the 23rd Oct – 2nd nov. Everyone gets the same amount of event time.
Are you making kitten up? Stop making kitten up. They’re not adding a day to the events. There is no delay in the patch.
@Xethus.9518
Act 1 will be live for a few days at least. They said Act 1 will be going all week.
Tyria has seen 250 years pass since the last alleged appearance of the Mad King, and today children (and merchants) everywhere still celebrate Halloween. This year, however, whispers of strange happenings under the autumn moon haunt festival preparations, while Durmand Priory scholars struggle to make sense of dangerous energy fluctuations growing stronger by the day.
From 23 October until 2 November (European dates), Halloween goes off the rails, and you’re exactly the right person to fix it.
is what PPL get in EU from ur emails so meh
Yeah, Europeans have hours and hours left until they were lied to. Talk about entitlement.
I am just hoping that if they launch the update at, say, 11pm PST on the 22nd, that the event ends at 11pm on november 1st so we don’t lose time. By the time i get the content it won’t even be the 22nd anymore. I feel like I lost a day of Act 1 play =[
You didn’t lose a day of Act 1. The plan was to release it at this time. There is no missed time.
Seriously people, UK time is NOT GMT at the moment!
We are GMT + 1
It is NOT currently 2:30 GMT, it is 1:30 GMT.
Its 2:30 in the UK right now. I’m in it. and releasing an update at 4-5am really craps on your EU playerbase.
I don’t get why we have EU and US servers, I really dont
Are you kidding?! At this time the majority okitten players are in bed for example?! While most US are up? Seriously, how can you not understand US and EU servers?!?!
I don’t get what you think i’m saying… but i’ll lay it out for you.
Event releases on EU servers at 9pm CET
Event releases on US servers at 9pm PSTNot, 8pm US — 4am EU
What is the point of having EU servers if everything is based off US times?
Maybe so that EU players can play with other EU players because they are in the same timezone?
But all changes and updates take place in US time on EU servers. Thats my point
Of course they do. The developers work during US time. Why would they be updating patches when they’re at home sleeping.
To be honest I think the main problem has been that people have asked when the update is coming out. They have been repeatedly told ‘the 22nd’ the 22nd has come and gone for them. Whereas if someone had said instead of a copy paste response something like, ‘The update will likely not be released for another x hours.’ Most of the QQers would have looked at the post time, worked out what time it would be for them and most likely have gone to bed instead of sitting here moaning for hours that it isn’t out yet and they have been waiting for no reason.
I know a lot of people don’t use twitter and other social networking sites like that so a lot were looking at the big news on the official forum and missing the tiny little star next to the october 22nd headline, and like many others I didn’t recieve any emails about the event. I’m not complaining about this, but I do think that a more productive answer from the Devs in the structure I mentioned above would have been more productive and resulted in slightly less QQ.
If it’s 11:59 PST then I think that works out to 8 AM for us in the UK which I personaly actualy think is a decent time for an update.
The 22nd hasn’t come and gone. Anet still has 5 hours.
Considering They advertised it as the 23rd to Europeans and it is still fairly early in the night for Pacific time. They still haven’t failed to deliver their promise, and won’t for several hours.
I don’t know where you got this from as the launcher and the “read more” link are still saying 22nd October with no timezone.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/coming-soon-shadow-of-the-mad-king/?utm_source=client
“Shadow of the Mad King, the first major game release for Guild Wars 2, will go live on October 22. This new game update will include a number of new features for all of our players to enjoy, new content to explore and see, and a week-long Halloween event.”
Not that it matters though as I’m off to bed after waiting all day for it and its now 02:55 (GMT+1)
They sent out emails about this event. European emails said the 23rd.
so, those of us that work in est will not really be able to play much, unless we want to forgo sleep, untill the 23rd. when i heard the 22nd, i was of the thought sometime in the afternoon. i was expecting to be able to have it when i got home from work and have a full evening to play, silly me.
I dont understand the first part of the event lasts 4 days…………….not 1…………..whats the problem your having?
ok, i have no problem with them releasing it whenever they want, its their software. i just feel that they were misleading in what they said regarding the release timewise. i was really looking forward, all day long, to being able to play it tonight. being that i have to get up for work at 6am est, i will not be able to do anything tonight. had they said that it was gonna be this late in the evening/ night, i would have been ok with that. they just need better communication is all.
They had a video stream earlier today, explaining that the patch was still being worked on and would be released later tonight. They also said it was going to be a late evening patch on twitter about 14 hours ago.
So will the event be extended a day or more since it has been delayed?
It hasn’t been delayed… Why do people keep thinking it was delayed.
I think what everyone is getting confused about is the whole time & Date announcement. On the webpage it states the date but not the time. The includes an footnote on the bottom stating: All times and dates are shown in US Pacific Time (UTC-7:00).
Unless I am blind there was never an offical time it would be out today, but the page seems to suggest it gave one. Can anyone clarify?
They never gave a time, just the date. Anet is based on the West Coast in Pacific Time. They said the patch would be live on the 22nd (still several hours left of the day). Europeans were told the 23rd (so many hours left its sickening that they’re crying.). All in all, Anet still hasn’t failed their promise.
Seriously people, UK time is NOT GMT at the moment!
We are GMT + 1
It is NOT currently 2:30 GMT, it is 1:30 GMT.
Its 2:30 in the UK right now. I’m in it. and releasing an update at 4-5am really craps on your EU playerbase.
I don’t get why we have EU and US servers, I really dont
Are you kidding?! At this time the majority okitten players are in bed for example?! While most US are up? Seriously, how can you not understand US and EU servers?!?!
They base the update time around their work hours? This is somehow unacceptable to you?
I wake up at 7 am, and work a 9 – 5 job. I fail to see your logic? If I play a couple of hours tonight. Or not it won’t matter. They never said it would happen in the day time. On the contrary their twitter post said the opposite. They said it would be happening some time after at least midnight GMT. You all convinced yourselves it would happen so early, then you got upset when the arbitrary time you told yourself didn’t happen. Get over it.
Because….
The Shadow of the Mad King falls across Tyria later this afternoon
and
ACT 1 of the “Shadow of the Mad King” update will go live late this afternoon (Pacific time)
typically means…afternoon, not evening? =P.
And you’re forgetting, it’s not just people on west coast, or the east coast, it’s people outside of the states as well.
Or…did you forget that?
Did you forget that the Europeans were told the 23rd? if they want to assume a specific time, that is on them.
Can people stop telling Anet to use GMT? Its a game made by a NA developer, operating out of the west coast in Pacific time, and will use pacific time. Why should Americans have to figure out what GMT equals in their time zone?
Why should the rest of the world have to figure out PDT? GMT is the international standard, not PDT. The international standard doesn’t change based on “where you operate”.
Americans don’t deal with GMT time, why should we have to?
Dense is dense but stay with me here and try this out for size… it may actually make it past the skull, seeing your own words to spell it out for you…
Europeans don’t deal with PDT time, why should WE have to?
IE Anet wouldn’t kill anyone to say “xyz time PDT (XYZ GMT/ XYZ UTC)” would that really irk an American so much?
I present you https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/260350442876334080
The twitter post from way earlier today where they not only gave you a GMT time to consider as an earliest time, but since I’ve seen a European email blast that stated the 23rd as the date. I see no problem here.
But it was stated for the 22nd PST. Europeans were told the 23rd (can only stress this so much) and as for EST time, the latest time NA players have to deal with, it is only 9:30, we still have over 2 hours until the 23rd. I fail to see the problem.
You must live with mom and dad and not work….and if you do work, you definitely don’t work during the day.
Some people have to get up early AM for work.
If you don’t see the problem….I know why.
I wake up at 7 am, and work a 9 – 5 job. I fail to see your logic? If I play a couple of hours tonight. Or not it won’t matter. They never said it would happen in the day time. On the contrary their twitter post said the opposite. They said it would be happening some time after at least midnight GMT. You all convinced yourselves it would happen so early, then you got upset when the arbitrary time you told yourself didn’t happen. Get over it.
Very poor communication – the email blast shouldnt have gone out till it was live. It should have been stated that it wouldnt go live EST/EU on the 22nd.You should have said the 23 and there wouldnt have been an issue. I dont have an interest in the event but crystal clear time would have alleviated a lot of issues.
I would have preferred a working Orr myself.European email said the 23rd. It is only 9:30 Eastern, there is still 2.5 hours until it is no longer a 22nd update. I don’t see what you’re crying about.
Actually, being that it’s only 6:31pm in the time zone that they stated, they are 5.5 from being a 23rd release and at that point being “late”. And for the folks in Europe, their communication clearly said it would be the 23rd for you all, not the 22nd. They aren’t even late yet and people are going completely off their rocker. I get that some people missed work or set aside time and want to play it, but it’s life, it happens.
Ah right, I was referring only to EST players, not the patch being a 23rd in relation to it, but then EST players might have a bone to pick because we were told the 22nd, even then tho, it said 22nd PST. So nothing to say about it.
So many people saying you did not pay for the content…
The quote unquote “free content” was included in your original purchase price.
-_-…
To the people talking about the impatient comment. People are upset because that is a very unprofessional approach to the problem. You don’t call your fans/customers “impatient.” You just don’t.
Again, this is all about PR. It should have been stated the 23rd, not the 22nd. As many people have stated. People work, you can’t expect them to stay up all night to be part of the opening event on something that should have been released earlier in the day.
Biggest problem: Not everyone lives in the PST. So people saying “it’s not even late!” You only know what revolves around you. Not what is happening around the world.
But it was stated for the 22nd PST. Europeans were told the 23rd (can only stress this so much) and as for EST time, the latest time NA players have to deal with, it is only 9:30, we still have over 2 hours until the 23rd. I fail to see the problem.
Very poor communication – the email blast shouldnt have gone out till it was live. It should have been stated that it wouldnt go live EST/EU on the 22nd.You should have said the 23 and there wouldnt have been an issue. I dont have an interest in the event but crystal clear time would have alleviated a lot of issues.
I would have preferred a working Orr myself.
European email said the 23rd. It is only 9:30 Eastern, there is still 2.5 hours until it is no longer a 22nd update. I don’t see what you’re crying about.
Can people stop telling Anet to use GMT? Its a game made by a NA developer, operating out of the west coast in Pacific time, and will use pacific time. Why should Americans have to figure out what GMT equals in their time zone?
Why should the rest of the world have to figure out PDT? GMT is the international standard, not PDT. The international standard doesn’t change based on “where you operate”.
Americans don’t deal with GMT time, why should we have to?
@ Dlinks
Yes yes, I get it. The world revolves around America. All hail the American Empire and all that … … …
Anyways I am sure, that Anet will actual win alot of people over if they would at least put the top 3 times on their email correspondence.
For example:
So and so patch will be release on 6pm PST (x pm GMT, etc). This that so hard to do?
Considering they didn’t give any specific time of the day, and they are just specifying that when it is launched it will still be the 22nd in pacific time. Yes it would be hard to do.
Considering They advertised it as the 23rd to Europeans and it is still fairly early in the night for Pacific time. They still haven’t failed to deliver their promise, and won’t for several hours.
Can people stop telling Anet to use GMT? Its a game made by a NA developer, operating out of the west coast in Pacific time, and will use pacific time. Why should Americans have to figure out what GMT equals in their time zone?
So basically when you say “its going live 22nd” you need to advertise it to us EU players as “October 23” because basically that’s it – updates like this won’t roll for us when people are playing and its already 3 AM here so might as well go to sleep now lol.
Or you could just use GMT times so people would better understand.
They did advertise is at October 23rd to European players. Go read the email they sent you.
They also tweeted that it would be some time after midnight GMT.
Two instances you trash talk about, and are completely wrong about.
@Arius, that is my point exactly. During the day you put up a normal, sometimes even great fight. So we’re contending with each other for points. Night time comes and its a big joke. I hope you all enjoy pveing the map. If Anet doesn’t fix this, it is just going to end up as a big pve for the one server everybody jumped to.
Day time, server a vs server b vs server c. Points are generally evenly distributed. Night time, Server a vs nobody because they’re all asleep. Nice fun, “evenly valued” play time. You don’t need to be a genius to see how Anet is full of it when they say they value everybodies time equally.
Arius,
True, your server doesn’t put up a fight in the day time. But the other two servers have to fight each other. It is in no way the same.
I said morning — not during the day time. You should keep in mind, we are very competitive during the day (we exchanged the lead with NSP a couple of times). We are not at all competitive during morning and Ehmry Bay is not really either, I’ll put another screenshot to demonstrate that.
We night cap, true, NSP morning caps, true. They both fight pretty hard during the day. It’s Darkhaven’s fault that it can’t hold its own during the morning, and it’s NSP’s fault that it can’t hold its own during the night.
Also, how come its always the servers with unfair advantages that try to make it sound reasonable. The score looks pretty similar right now, well into the day. And we have EB attacking us and taking stuff back and forth. A morning cap? are you kidding me. Find a legitimate thing to complain about.
Its no servers fault, its Arenanets fault for leaving free transfers open and allowing guilds to jump ship to the winning servers. They kittened everything up. Won’t accept responsibility and wonder why the games population just drops a little more every day.
Arius,
True, your server doesn’t put up a fight in the day time. But the other two servers have to fight each other. It is in no way the same.
Let the Darkhaven night capping festivities begin! Woooooo
the main thing is
MOST of you use mesmer portals WHEN you def but when you attack the enemy isnt allowed to use it ?
wtf come on guys dont be a baby , everyone can use it untill it is fixed
when they fix it to 5 players you will just have 4-5 mesmer make portals behind your zerg and the rest of the 40 man zerg will go throug the normal portal 2 front war same as always and you will still not be able to react in time
so all in all its what?
adjust to it and life with it….
a saying is
It`s not a Bug, its a feature.
The ability to use a portal to clip through undestroyed gates and then portal in an entire zerg is a feature? Could have fooled me.
80% of my guild m8s stopped playing gw2 because of “invisible army bug” and also due to the night capping twisting score up.
^ game seems so much less lively than I had hoped. A lot of people left.
It is here to stay. People should stop acting like players that do it are going to get banned and threaten to report them. Instead just get your mesmers to start doing it until it becomes either standard practice or such an issue they actually change their stance on it from “eh” to something else such as deactivating targeted portals… If the Devs wanted this fixed it would have been a long time ago.
Don’t be an ignorant little kid. People that cheat should be banned. Anets policy to ban some exploiters and not others is pissing people off now.
@ Jihoko last time I knew this was not a Koran grind fest game so yeah I believe Anet will fix this insane gold amount you need to buy stuff like Rage,
it not like you need skill to farm gold just stay in orr and farm events + buy low /sell high in trade post.It’s not a Korean farm game if you never attempt to attain the legendary. It is not needed for end-game content. Getting geared out in exotics is all you need to do, and it is a very modest grind for end-game gear compared with most games.
I do sympathize and I’m not intending to anger or upset anyone, truly. I really think many would be happier and enjoy the game more if they simply abandoned this intense lust for a legendary weapon. Their names would not make sense if more than a small % of people had them, and the particle effects and things like flower-path footprints would lead to performance issues if too many did. It comes down to math and common sense:
- of people grinding towards legendary weapons – # of legendary’s meant to exist = # of unhappy people whose time could be better spent on more reasonable pursuits.
Unfortunately, the current situation is there are far more people working towards legendaries than the # of them meant to exist, so there are a large # of unhappy people.
Meant to exist? So you’re implying that if I just buy the game now but so many people already have the legendarys I shouldn’t have a chance at them? Kindly pull your head out of your kitten Everybody is entitled to an equal chance to get a legendary regardless of how many have them already. Also the fairness and equality of legendarys has already gone to kitten with the people who exploited the system and now run the market. Not because I am entitled to an easy precursor. But because those people are not. They cheated, exploited and abused the system, got away with it, and are now destroying it.
The only message this sends for everybody else is that if you’re not willing to cheat and screw people over Anet doesn’t care about your time.
No support for this? This would greatly improve the flow of “no auto attack” combat in my opinion. I feel it should at least be considered.
I won’t argue against it, because I don’t mind if they add it. I will just add that personally it hasn’t bothered me. I actually haven’t noticed. Maybe now that you’ve point it out I will. I’ll post back if it starts to bother me.
Two-thirds of the customers are unhappy. How many businesses stay in business that way?
You can use what ever kitten scoring system you want, but until servers with an active off-peak population are matched up against each other, two-thirds of the customers will remain unhappy, or perhaps go find something else to do.
Piano lessons are looking good.
which 2 thirds of people in the world are you talking about sorry?
don’t forget that this is a thread about night-capping, and funnily enough, the posts from people who have issues with it, will generally outweigh the people who don’t (and can’t be bothered responding).
If 2 servers per 3 way match are being night capped, then 2/3 of the population is being night capped. It is impossible to actually enjoy being night capped, so approx 2/3 of the population is unhappy with night capping. The only people you see who are arguing against this are the people who are night capping.