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Sadly I think that too. The game mode could have been made better with super easy steps that aren’t even discussed officialy. And then we get “special” events that basically is just “hey see that siege weapon you all think is broken and cheap? Well let’s buff it for the week!”.
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I do agree that sentries are underused.
From what I understand they will have a much more important role in Hot maps like holding dolyaks in place and be much harder to kill.
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[Golems] break the whole balance of wvw by being too easy to make and too powerful (even without the mastery)
Balance? This guy has jokes. WVW by its very nature cannot be balanced.
BTW, it’s not that hard to kill golems. Just don’t try to run up and AA melee it…
You seem to not understand the difference between the words “Fair” and “Balanced”
Let me help ya:
>Fair: free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision; a fair judge.
>Balanced:[MASS NOUN] A situation in which different elements are equal or in the correct proportions: the obligations of political balance in broadcastingWvW and any pvp gamemode will NEVER be fair because it is the whole point of it(tipping scales in your favor). However it needs to be balanced if it is to remain fun for everyone.
And so my comment on golems.
First, you’re on Underworld. WVW will never be fun.
Second, you’re arguing semantics… fine, we can do that. The definition of “balanced” also provides for something “to be stable.” By this equally applicable definition of “balanced,” WVW is balanced in that Underworld’s rank volatility is next to nil, but back to golems…
According to your definition of “balance,” golems as a siege weapon are balanced. Can an opposing server build more golems than you? Given local available resources, yes, but there is a siege cap. So, we are balanced in the maximum number of golems we can build. However, I suppose the count of golems is not your balance problem.
From reading your post, it seems that you have a problem with how quickly golems can take a defended tower. To this I would advise that you reevaluate your problem. If you’re severely overmatched in numbers, then the golems don’t even matter. If you’re equally our closely matched, then golems should be no more of a nuisance than any other siege machine.
Sadly it’s kittenes like yourself that made wvw the vacuum it is today. Go live in your fantasy world with speed boosted jetpack golems and let us hope you’re never on the receiving end of your ignorant logic.
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[Golems] break the whole balance of wvw by being too easy to make and too powerful (even without the mastery)
Balance? This guy has jokes. WVW by its very nature cannot be balanced.
BTW, it’s not that hard to kill golems. Just don’t try to run up and AA melee it…
You seem to not understand the difference between the words “Fair” and “Balanced”
Let me help ya:
>Fair: free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision; a fair judge.
>Balanced:[MASS NOUN] A situation in which different elements are equal or in the correct proportions: the obligations of political balance in broadcasting
WvW and any pvp gamemode will NEVER be fair because it is the whole point of it(tipping scales in your favor). However it needs to be balanced if it is to remain fun for everyone.
And so my comment on golems.
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If they plan to keep this stupid server system, they need to cut the number of servers by half. Simple as that. There’s just not enough people for 24 servers anymore.
This guy. Yes
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Golems are a trumpcard that should not have existed or rather is used way too much. I’m not saying they’re not fun, I’m saying they break the whole balance of wvw by being too easy to make and too powerful (even without the mastery)
It’s way too easy for random people to spam them when they haven’t even tried to siege a tower properly.
Why bother making rams anymore when you can just have alpha golems and a mesmer to port them?
How many times have people defended a keep bravely to only be golem rushed because the attackers are tired of trying?
Have you ever tried to stop a golem rush and not be part of one?(since you’re asking I guess you’re more on the piloting side)
The high price on blueprints was “supposed” to prevent people from abusing them. Which failed completely.
Golems are literealy part of the reason why WvW is ruined atm and you guys want to buff them even more with underwater super speed and 50% healing skills?
Yeah right I’m the one not in touch with reality here. : )
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Would you also like a special item that farms towers from afar for you? Also a bot that auto-follows the commander so you can go outside while your character farms all day? : )
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Go t9 and go meta : )
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Servers full/high etc rating is based on all accounts active/playing/online at that moment. At least that is the only solution that makes sense, considering the rating can change on the times of day and week. For all game modes.
Yes this definitively should be changed. Move all players to nameless pve servers, and choose a WvW server when entering WvW. Then only list people from WvW servers for the rating.
Seems an interesting idea.
Basically make a sweep for wvw players (based on time in wvw, they can do that). Or maybe less intrusive offer free tranfers towards a WvW or Pve more oriented server for all tier 8/9 players.
Then dump all the dead accounts (ppl who haven’t done anything after 2/3 months) in the pve one.
That way you can use less servers and pay LESS Anet! Yay we all win!
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The saying is: “Hope for nothing so you can only be pleasantly surprised”
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LA specific would kill lower tier servers where most population left but still count as “populated” since the accounts remain. So that’s a big NO.
Server chat and WvW hub map are better ideas.
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Gligko works well for Blackgate & tier = Anet will never touch it. Pure and simple.
The problem is the population (more precisely the lack of) on lower tiers that suffer from the glicko system that doesn’t/can’t take that into account (what an insensitive kitten!^^).
ONCE AGAIN. We need server mergers or free transfers TOWARDS lower tiers. We’ve been ragging over and over here for the past 2 years. I’m probably very close to being banned with all the warnings I’ve received and STILL the issue remains the godkitten same…
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Well if the new maps are gimmicks then it is possible that they would tunr into a farm train.
Well in Underworld we’re kinda more worried about how we’re going to cover 3 times the area with only 4 ppl left (BARELY exaggerating)^^
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So you want a troll box to store all your troll siege?
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That was so depressing^^
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It’s funny how you’re assuming Anet actually cares about WvW : )
I betcha a couple ectos that NOTHING will happen to the wvw structure. They’ll just dump us on the new maps and make more Scarlett Quin fanfiction.
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It’s not like doing both would take approximately 5 minutes….
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Even if I’m ragging about WvW population and how Anet needs to stop ignoring the gamemode; this seem like a good idea as a FIX until something more drastic is done to the gamemode (Merging empty servers, creating a special hub, changing rules, ACTIVE surveillance of hackers, etc)
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He teleports away when you come close to 1500 range of him.
We’ve been abble to kitten him in UW by staying inside lord rooms so he can’t teleport in.
OFC then they send the BT blob but that is another story : )
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Ah yeah. I didn’t consider the possibility of them working for arena net to flush us out of the last servers and make a quick buck out of it^^
Suddenly it seems possible.
GGWP
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Please.
I’m really glad your getting an increase in wvw players. really.
But don’t dream that your score is nothing but hacking. We’ve been here all week trying to cap/defend stuff. And even if I’ll gladly admit that you have great groups running around atm, your hackers have capped keeps every day morning AND night since friday. Including times when WE were inside trying to defend.
This is not a complaint just a statement.
Once again I am glad at least one of us tier 9 is getting a moral boost. But please don’t fool yourself.
Our only way to “win” agaisnt your hackers is to not play their game at all. So you won’t be seeing most of us until you move up.
Good luck
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A wild mod appears.
Mod uses message deletion.
It’s very effective.
People are free to move Kamara that is their choice and should never be questioned. What’s being questioned here is the lack of response on the developer part to the situation that has been described countless times here.
Since there is a such a big migratory flux, then Anet should first come and have a look (obvious yet highly improbable)
Then either merge us with another server or I dunno maybe lower/remove the price on server transfers towards us??
Do you think it motivates anyone to join the last empty server when they have to pay full price to transfer?
No.
Not even the “let’s be heroes and save the server” transfers are encouraged with such pricing policy.
It’s been asked over and over again. They never replied to any of our threads nor did they act
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NOTHING is done to regulate their game mode when VERY easy steps could be taken.
And that is why I’m so kittened.
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Sorry already spent enough money for a game that doesn’t deliver what was promised .
I’ll just wait for them to forge merge us with someone else when they grow tired of paying for an empty server.
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“Be patient it hurts your butt less the 37th time” is all I could read : )
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You realize I was being ironic considering our server and those around us are dead ; )
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The problem here is that if Anet had something as big as alliances or even a wvw server overhaul, we’d probably already have learned about it (at least to stop all of us spamming QQ threads)…
Nope I think that once again they’re winging it.
“Will it work on Blackgate?” “Yes” “Fine do it” is imo the entire brainstorming that took place regarding the new wvw viability.
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The irony of all that is that even without a hacker(s) we’d still be in a terrible condition. It’s just the cherry on my GW2 depression cake.
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personally i expect 24/7 queues in t1 for long enough to make me want to transfer lower. so idk about the rest of you but im gonna bail on t1 so i can actually play when i want. frankly i dont give a kitten about getting 1 or 2 or 3 bonus chests upon ranking up each week because that loot is terrible anyways, so to me theres no point in staying on a “winning” server when all it means is my servermates mistakenly call themselves better than other people and i have to wait in line for dayz to play, only to dc at a key moment and go back to waiting for dayz.
good luck getting your whole guild into 1 map so you can actually do things, youll need it if youre t1 down to t3 (and you might even if you arent).
Bring your guild to Underworld, there is PLENTY of space here for u guys to be awesome ; )
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I agree on the wvw boycott. Seems like the only valid strategy is for us to wait and not cap anything so the hackers get bored and go to a higher tier server (where maybe some GM will be monitoring something for once…)
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Thx for the nice words Apharma : )
And yes it is the same in Underworld as well
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Let's have 3 different borderlands instead
in WvW Desert Borderlands Stress Test
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Eotm only “fixed” top tier server problems. It killed/damaged all the others by tking away from it’s wvw pop
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He’s talking about the UW one Jayden : )
She!
My deepest apologies!
Was under the MMORPG effet: ManyMenOnlineRolePlayingGrils ; )
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He’s talking about the UW one Jayden : )
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Here in Underworld we’re kind of beyond sadness atm^^
Now with my guild we just pick a keep in Blactide borderlands and try to defend it as long as possible agaisnt the giant BT blob until they rage enough to rely on golems to flush us out.
It’s fun in a way.
Oh and ofc meanwhile their hacker is is insta-capping our borderland, EB and Fow’s bl ; )
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Because clearly making an entire year of content based arround a Harley Quin ripoff (they even used the same voice actress FFS!) is better than taking care of a game mode that represent 1/3 of your game.
See that is why you don’t ONLY hire tech people in developpment teams. They prob don’t have a single business irented person that could have told them “Oh It’s clear we could make a lot more money and increase our popularity by taking care of WvW”
HELL even fractals supposedly our endgame pve is abandonned completely!
And even if one/their community Manager Stephanie is a really nice person, she clearly isn’t doing the job she’s titled to (wheter it’s on purpose or a corporate order is another debate).
No events, no community feedback, no freagin Q/A sessions, forum threads here get deleted by some mod not even working for them; HELL even with super popular spvp they just rely on dedicated shoutcasters that do the job for them.
Clearly this game is undermanned and left to rot and not a day goes by without me thinking how sad it is
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Golem week is prob the most laziest idea ever made into a realm pvp game
The intern that though of that should have taken a longer poop for more thinking time…
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Meanwhile we don’t have WvW players in Undeworld and haven’t seen a queue for more than a year^^
#toptierproblems
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Perhaps they need to fold the lower populated servers into the next tier in order to make the new BLs feel more populated?
WvW isn’t any fun when there’s no one to fight against. They absolutely have to do something about this issue, and the only real solution I can think of is a set of server merges. Lowering the pop cap isn’t really going to fix anything as there are already a large number of servers that don’t fill more than one BL. Even T2 only fills one or two most nights, and won’t fill any in offhours TZ’s.
Still seems like the best idea as a quick fix to allow Anet to investigate for REAL into a solution
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Yet if you look on the sever list on the login screen UW as a number of others are counted as very high when WvW is the only place this matters and we are very low!
That is also right.
The migration system only takes into account the global pop server. So in UW’s case wvw is still empty since we have all the old ghost accounts and ppl who simply stopped playing the game but somehow it’s still max price to move because “lol u’re a full serv”
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I keep telling them that everybody’s dead! : D
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IKR?! Grub is so casul that now I rather solo claw of jormags for a slight challenge.
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Yup just stopped playing about 5 mins ago because while we were having an awesome battle with BT in their bl, somehow EB and the other maps started to insta flip to blue even with the BT blob here with us : )
I guess they can’t/won’t make a tournament when the game mode is broken and they don’t bother looking into it…
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They have to INVEST time and efforts into designing it and obviously wvw is not (never was?) the focus atm.
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Having spent a few days now on the forum looking up threads on similar subjects I find myself wondering in a giant lower tier fusion of servers would not be a viable solution in the meantime.
-That way we’ll all get a population boost.
-And Arena Net can SAVE MONEY (got your attention there eh!) by having less servers.
However that can only be a temporary fix before some core changes are designed and implemented.
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So here’s the thing
Personally I would love to see the bottom 2-3 tiers just merged straight into other tiers. In the current state ov overall WvW in GW2, there would still be plenty of empty maps for roamers to roam if they so desire, in combination with other improvements it could really revitalize WvW, instead of further sliding it down.
As an Underworld player I find myself considering that as the best “option” for now. We are LITERALLY denied a gamemode by the current situation
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Underworld player here. Dunno if it’s the same guy(s) you’re talking about (naming him = thread deletion btw^^) but we’ve been having some major keep insta-capping (blob teleportation inside lord rooms basicaly) in past days as well…
And since we don’t have enough ppl to stick inside towers to defend^^
AS IF we all needed hackers with all the amazing empty WVWness we’re suffering atm XD
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Even If I won’t go as far as to promote massive sackings Tongku makes a valid point. There could be tons of money to be made by arena net (siege skins, tower skins, “paid” tournaments, etc etc) if only Anet would JUST put a little effort to it.
I mean I enjoy the living story, kinda. But I don’t see why, in an industry where every mmo has a heavy pve basis, GW2 that offers a fresh (as in currently) view on realm pvp and gameplay would voluntarily abandon it…
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There is no one spamming TS info because there are no more “big” wvw guilds left…
You just can’t consider that our problem is due to “us not stepping up”. I’m part of [ZERK] one of the last remaining active wvw guilds and we’ve been here since almost the start of the game and if I come today to make a thread about population and also comment here it’s that there is a serious problem that won’t resolve with some random top tier player explaining that we need to kittening step up and somehow herd all the remaining trolls and farmers that were obviously left outside of migrating guilds due to their toxic behaviors (all the blind pvd, trebuchet placement, insults, spy suspicions you can eat in a 4ppl populated eternal battlegrounds!)
Sorry for the anger here but it’s gotten to the point where wvw is just downright depressing. Plus let’s add a couple hackers on Blacktide atm insta taking keeps and you can imagine why there is no recovering from this on our own.
Also what “drama” are you referring to plz? Something with [WvW] (the guild)?
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Underworld. basically the last server ever^^
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