Guild Wars 2

Jeknar.6184:

AR did some really nasty defense at QL this night… This tower lasted up to fortified even being trebbed constantly!

We actually only queued the upgrades because daily repair was making people build the darn stairs so we wanted to keep supply out of the tower. Was never our intention to upgrade it, we wanted the walls down, and needed the stairs down.

What’s going on on GoM lately, used to have a little more class. Unless of course this is the first 8 v 1 these guys have won where all 8 of them survived. Then again when AR ran about 8 at them, they bolted for the tower like it was on fire.
To the one guy that /salute, props.

Faranox.4217:

Dovgan.8605:

I’m not sure if people are just lazy or don’t understand that in order to keep a match close they need to attack whoever is in the lead. I have watched the point gap spread from 3k to 6k and now 9k between first and second, while 2nd and 3rd remain close in points.

It varies from commander to commander. Some people like to hit the winning team, some people like to hit the guy that’s easier to knock down.

Also, it was fun fighting ET at North camp in AR BL this afternoon! It really took some doing to knock you lads out of there.

I mean merely from a “want to win” or at least keep the match close perspective. It doesn’t make sense if a team is in 2nd and has the manpower to not hit the team in first to try and cut a point deficit. Instead we see it happen mostly that any team in second hits the team in third, and widens the point gap between all three teams, and allows the team in first to actually increase the point gap, which is exactly what we see in every match up.

I’m not sure if people are just lazy or don’t understand that in order to keep a match close they need to attack whoever is in the lead. I have watched the point gap spread from 3k to 6k and now 9k between first and second, while 2nd and 3rd remain close in points.

Highlie.7641:

Oh sorry your right, its not that point its the one beside bay.(i though i had kitten but i can’t seem to find it atm)

Just falling of the map won’t get you banned, now targetting someone while your down there probably will. (ive been off the map 100’s of times since pre-sale and im still here. mind you i’ve never tried to use it to my advantage.

Either way ill keep my eyes open for anything suspicious for you

It’s cool, just wanted you guys to be aware of it.

Highlie.7641:

That Is a glitch caused by lag (client and server) while using a Travel ability (ride the lightning, shadow steps and leaps). I highly doubt this guy is a “Moronic teen” if he was he would of swam over to bay and solo capped it….

On another note though, i think the bloodlust points where suppose to be multi layered at one point. there are steps and rooms under that point.
and no that is not me

There are neither steps or rooms under that point, the skills used are under water combat skills. They were using the ability to get under the map to “attempt” to kill enemy players without risk to themselves. Luckily they were not smart enough to realize what other damage they can cause under there, because they clearly had no issue exploiting the situation as it stood.

Can someone on GoM find out who is under the bloodlust cap points trying to kill people from beneath the map and let them know that they have already been reported, and I don’t think they want to be caught under the map.

Euryon.9248:

I love how the AR people are putting 100% of the blame for this situation on ET and completely ignoring the massive HoD zergs that are taking everything all the time from both servers.

Face it, ET and AR are MUCH closer in WvW numbers/presence than either is to HoD. This is a case of one huge overdog being able to zerg its way to whatever it wants. It’s an exercise in frustration and futility to constantly send 5-10 man groups into HoD BL or the EB only to be annihilated by 40-man HoD zergs. It’s a waste of time and sanity. Going into AR at least gives us a chance to gain PPT and more even matchups. I’m not into WvW to pound my head against the brick wall of the overlord zergs, and therefore I’m not apologizing one iota for going into the AR BL instead.

No, and in reality it is ET that stated that the issue is because AR doesn’t defend against ET + HoD combined in ARBL, when situation reversed ET could not defend against constant pressure from both servers either. So please, as hard as it is to do, lower your hypocrisy level just a bit.

Let me sum up your post, you are in WvW for karma and mats and will avoid fights because they are hard. (And don’t fool yourself into thinking ET cannot put together absolutely huge zerg trains, they do it quite often, and the few I have seen are actually quite a bit larger than HoDs.)

Opc.4718:

K U T M.4539:

Oh sorry. I’ve only ran into KAOS in a roaming capacity, thought they were that type of guild.

mah bad

I can’t really speak for KAOS, but I know some of the guys relatively well, and my post above explains why many of us are really kitten ed at this matchup, even more so than usual. Even for roamers, we all have a vested interest in seeing AR succeed, and this kind of stuff makes people rage.

Well, we won’t ever rage quit, we like fights. And KAOS does a lot behind the scenes that a lot of people aren’t aware of. Yes, we roam and have some good roaming players, but if you start to see things change AR color with no zergs in sight, you will possibly catch a glimpse of KAOS in the area. PPT isn’t the guilds end all by any means, but when a strategy that is being exercised is questionable (this being the only end goal is that a server secures second place, but has no chance for first) I just have to bring it up.

Jeknar.6184:

Well, here is ET again attacking HoD, since they play for first…

No, wait…

fixed
I guess you mostly play in Eternal, and people usually attack in both directions, yes AR will hit QL as well as AP. And ET hits Klovan as well as Jerrifers (uh .. yeah).

So while ET is busy in ARBL, HoD rolls over your keep and holds SMC in Eternal(to help you out, ARBL is the one on the left), and AR actually attacks HoD.

So all the effort of taking ARBL gets you a net PPT gain on HoD of 30, which would be 5 if AR wasn’t in HoD BL. I know math can be confusing, but concentrating your efforts on the third position server is what is widening the point gap between first and second.

Euryon.9248:

Wasn’t hard for them to do after ET & HoD ran through it and turned it all to paper. Attacking our BL and removing all the siege on one half while HoD hits the other. That BL was half red and half blue and we were outmanned there while both servers zerged that BL. And with that kind of pressure from 2 servers, yes it is difficult to defend.
A little secret, we do defend, but when you have 25-40 man groups hitting something that we have 4 players to defend, the odds of holding it for any extended time isn’t very likely.
Don’t blame AR for the point deficit ET has on HoD, blame ET.

The HoD zergs may have been that large (actually I’m sure they were), but our little 5-8 person ET group basically took all the camps and 2 of the towers with minimal resistance. 3 AR guys tried to stop us at Crag, and that was it (not counting the guy watching the whole thing from the cliff across the way). It was the much larger HoD zerg that showed up a little later that stopped us, not anyone from AR.

Did you consider that the limited resistance from AR was due to both of you in our BL. The few people that AR did have were trying to defend against HoD, who had a considerably larger force. Not that taking those points isn’t solid strategy, you can take points without a fight because of a double sided attack. I’m sure that couldn’t possibly be why your smaller group, who avoided HoD(and subsequently any PvP) had little resistance taking towers that had already been turned to paper by HoD. Fact is, if there was the same level of pressure on ET, the same could be said about them.

Wasn’t hard for them to do after ET & HoD ran through it and turned it all to paper. Attacking our BL and removing all the siege on one half while HoD hits the other. That BL was half red and half blue and we were outmanned there while both servers zerged that BL. And with that kind of pressure from 2 servers, yes it is difficult to defend.
A little secret, we do defend, but when you have 25-40 man groups hitting something that we have 4 players to defend, the odds of holding it for any extended time isn’t very likely.
Don’t blame AR for the point deficit ET has on HoD, blame ET.

Jeknar.6184:

Dovgan.8605:

Jakare.6807:

Mariticide.1970:

Theftwind.8976:

I run perplexity runes on my engie but out of 8 level 80 toons he is essentially my only condition toon (still working on my necro’s build). As an engie he pumps out over 2,200 watts of condition damage. It works well on those ET/AR zergs and dropping a kit on a flame ram while defending a tower works wonders. I can just hear them screaming “I’m melting….I’m melting!” Music to my ears. It helped when I picked up that Ascended Dire pistol a couple of nights back. Just need one more for the pair so if either ET or AR would oblige?

AR zerg? Wow, that’s mythical! I hope to see one someday.

Nice day for an AR zerg.

This just in new WvW rank .. “Beast”. Nice shot of a lot of pets though.
So what ever happened to the two servers in second and third hitting the server in first? Oh yeah I guess if you have played for second all week, why change now…

Let’s make a 5-man Minion Necro Party and zerg stuff…

And BTW… That’s your server (3rd) hitting us (2nd), as it is the blue side of the map…

Did you consider that maybe you are being hit as retaliation for constantly hitting Golanta and Klovan? ET spends far more time in those areas and in ARBL than they do on SMC or HoD. WHich would explain the nearly 60k gap between first and second.

Jakare.6807:

Mariticide.1970:

Theftwind.8976:

I run perplexity runes on my engie but out of 8 level 80 toons he is essentially my only condition toon (still working on my necro’s build). As an engie he pumps out over 2,200 watts of condition damage. It works well on those ET/AR zergs and dropping a kit on a flame ram while defending a tower works wonders. I can just hear them screaming “I’m melting….I’m melting!” Music to my ears. It helped when I picked up that Ascended Dire pistol a couple of nights back. Just need one more for the pair so if either ET or AR would oblige?

AR zerg? Wow, that’s mythical! I hope to see one someday.

Nice day for an AR zerg.

This just in new WvW rank .. “Beast”. Nice shot of a lot of pets though.
So what ever happened to the two servers in second and third hitting the server in first? Oh yeah I guess if you have played for second all week, why change now…

Riondron.1069:

Dude…next time post a picture that provides evidence of what you say occurred. I see no dead body, and it appears as though the player in question is landing from jumping down from above.
And seriously, in a matchup like this, you are running on uplevels??…..then you deserve to get rolled. Last time I checked the score, HoD was winning. Maby you should worry more about them, and less about server class. Just sayin’

Everything about this post is hilarious. If you WvW you would know where this is, and this guy would have to be jumping from heaven. No dead body? LOL! (seriously, look at the picture). And at this point, why not run uplevels and experiment? It’s not getting rolled, we don’t care about dying on an uplevel with 4 v 1 odds. And your comment about class, look at this thread and see who brings up class…Oh wait, that would be you.

Since ET always likes to talk about class, lets talk about ET’s very own PK. We took a few newly rolled characters out into ARBL, these “classy” ET not only chased the uplevels all over the map, but proceed to jump on the corpses as well. Please never talk about the level of class your server has again. You are deluded to think you are some special group of players lacking in forum warriors and other antics.
To PK, keep hiding in supply camps and killing uplevels, maybe one day you will graduate to fighting even numbers on even terms. (Who are we kidding, my level 20 lead you all on a merry chase, you had a hard enough time with that.)

I present to you what real clkitten scumbags look like.

LOL at DH in Eternal Battlegrounds. 10 Omegas on a paper keep. I have to admit, it’s a new tactic. Terrible supply control, terrible use of siege, but a new tactic(oh wait, no it isn’t).

What Solstice is attempting to do is their very best to belittle AR as a whole while I called out a guild that is primarily PvE. Saying a guild with a commander used an Alpha on a wall is hardly gloating. Basically Solstice is using my post in order to put forward a veiled attempt to insult AR as a whole. Well done. No one could possibly catch you trolling away.

*note*AoE did eventually take quite a bit of stuff, but it was really a comedy of errors.

Medazolam.3058:

Dovgan.8605:

Dear AoE(FC) Thank you for showing us the worst WvW guild I can remember in my entire history of playing this game. Sadly we had to leave the tower your zerg was trying to take to deal with an actual threat(3 man DR group) at our Hills. Please, don’t ever change.

It must be very frustrating for you to see your server drop like a rock to last place, but sarcastic posts and guild call outs on the forums still ain’t gonna help you win any matches. In fact, they just make you and your sever appear weaker.

They attacked walls with Alphas, built multiple siege sites that constantly got destroyed. This isn’t from frustration, it was legitimately humorous to watch.

DR in an even fight for Speldans’s.

Dear AoE(FC) Thank you for showing us the worst WvW guild I can remember in my entire history of playing this game. Sadly we had to leave the tower your zerg was trying to take to deal with an actual threat(3 man DR group) at our Hills. Please, don’t ever change.

The paper Hills is solely the fault of your Eternal Battlegrounds commander.

So far, a reasonably fun match up. Had a good time in the ogres in Eternal, but [PTH] thief, find another button on your keyboard. While enjoyable to press #2, finding 16 heartseekers in the combat log should tell you something.
Not that you didn’t have a good 8 to 1 advantage, but good lord, there is more to thief than your #2 dagger skill.

Ynot.8397:

Dovgan.8605:

@ Yarr, as much as I like you guys, try not to get pinched betwen AR and DR zergs when you decide to run naked. Was funny to see though, thanks!

What’s there to lose? Not wearing armor!

That’s true! Part of me felt bad when I saw the DR zerg coming over the bridge though.

@ Yarr, as much as I like you guys, try not to get pinched betwen AR and DR zergs when you decide to run naked. Was funny to see though, thanks!

Went afk a bit came back to this. I wonder how long the ban is for spamming chat. I guess these guys can tell me when they get back.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dovgan.8605:

Why does someone in this thread come across as extremely condescending, as well as throughout their entire posting history?

Regardless, had some great fun setting up and defending Mendon’s for the day.

Right!

Also, Opc; why do you dismiss his 2v3 victory? My original post was totally about your members being mostly zerglings who couldn’t handle themselves in small scale combat where you have to rely on your competence rather than the incompetence of the enemy zerg. Gotem’s example definitely serves to reinforce this theory.

Going back 4 month’s. All I have to do is look at ALL of your posts. gg. But why so bitter Gab?

Why does someone in this thread come across as extremely condescending, as well as throughout their entire posting history?

Regardless, had some great fun setting up and defending Mendon’s for the day.

So close at Mendon’s DR! I’m not sure why you decided to not build the other rams though. You may have gotten away with that then.

To FC players at Mendon’s a bit ago, the answer to the riddle of that tower isn’t build more catapults. But if that’s what you guys want to try, go for it

Oozo.7856:

I only ran across TFH once. My guess is because they stay mainly in EB while we avoid it. They died to us when they had roughly a 3 to 2 man advantage on the east side of SM.

And, for those DR defending TFH note that TFH insulted their own server. There are better players on AR than them.

I think that it comes down to which TFH you run into, like which AD you run into. There are some good players in both of those guilds.

cheshirefox.7026:

i think i’ve had enough of GoM’s —-- for one night

Why is that? They try and spawn camp with almost three times the number, and are forced to build siege because .. well if they don’t they have to scurry like rats behind walls?

Or because the “Commander” that was leading the spawn camp walked half his zerg into the Legendaries trying so very hard to get his spike on?

OMG you guys, I seriously hope you were drunk, because that was just .. really sad.

Ynot.8397:

HatSimulator.9362:

Darek.1836:

HatSimulator.9362:

you glitched inside a tower to look for holes around the tower.

you realize you have to get inside the tower to know whether or not there’s a hole right?

That makes no sense. I don;t know what “hole” you’re talking about i guess

Still remains, you abused a glitch to get an advantage which is un-sportsman like and ruins the game.

To be fair, if he didn’t kill anyone or destroy siege it didn’t matter. If he did you can call it an advantage.

To be completely fair, the necro pulled the lord in this instance and that is what killed him. I’m not sure if the holes that were being looked for were in the lords room, or if one of them made it in to find “holes” why they needed to have both of them go in…

Darek.1836:

HatSimulator.9362:

you glitched inside a tower to look for holes around the tower.

you realize you have to get inside the tower to know whether or not there’s a hole right?

Just two fast questions about this.
Why did you both feel it was necessary to look for the holes(The Necro had already gotten into the tower, why get in with the guardian as well)?
What would have happened if I was not on my scheduled rounds that match and caught you two at the wall?

Darek.1836:

HatSimulator.9362:

Darek.1836:

deth needs to get their kitten together and gvg TFH already

who is deth

YOUR kitten WHOOPERS

That would maintain that they get a GvG. Until then, opinions are what they are.

I see you have an Asuran Guardian in SS, wouldn’t happen to be the one that enjoys glitching through tower walls to take towers with his necromancer buddy would it?

insanemaniac.2456:

ar bl turns blue to 8 people in 5 golems

BUT GUIZE WE HAV SM!!!!!!!!!!!1

:)

..oh, and the only other people we saw were like 5 gom
in ar bl
:D

Sure, if ARBL is turning blue at 3am, it’s really not a shock. FC likes to hit AR.
They like to hit AR so much, that their own BL is ignored.

BUT GUIZE WE HAV AR Hills!!!!!!!!!!!1

See, it isn’t polite, and frankly comes across as a troll, doesn’t it?

SuicideByTaco.5408:

Sometimes when ASTC gets bored we just go with our old hobby of painting things green hope u like the new color AR ^^ we now claim this HoD BL #2 ; p

This is ALMOST as impressive as waking up in the morning… almost.

JamboHammer.4397:

to my friends i met on ar i hope u enjoyed the showing of all the dead henge and our dance party

Had a great time!

Agricola.2817:

We lost two towers which were already paper.

You lost a total of 30 points(2 tower 2 camps) for 25, and got us on board to kill yaks feeding SMC the next hour. Tactically brilliant decision.

Congrats to FC for finally taking AR keep in Eternal, now sure you lost most of your corner doing it, and have DR inside SMC, but bravo, never has a server shot so low and hit the mark!
Really is a shame DR didn’t take everything in your corner.

How better to celebrate a 15 v 1 after an hour siege on a paper tower with 4 to 1 odds, than to /e spam. Keep it classy DR.

dreztina.4820:

Well, let me tell you guys a tale of how 4 ungrouped people can beat 20+. I honestly don’t remember which map it was because most of the time I don’t know. However, it was the borderland where DR is in the SW corner.

So I was roaming around as usual, and I roll up to the SWT which was owned by FC and see some siege up and a Siegerazer. With my awesome map awareness, I figure someone is doing a breakout and I should just steer clear. However, upon closer inspection, it was not quite what I thought.

It turned out it was five or so AR building the siege, but the Siegerazer actually belonged to DR but had, for whatever reason, been abandoned and left to stand in front of the tower alone. After seeing this, I, and another DR or two, killed them and started to leave.

As we were leaving, in rolls quite a decent zerg. My first reaction is to run, but they don’t seem to care about us at all. The zerg mostly ignores us and starts trying to build siege and kill Siegerazer. Now, as you might know, Siegerazer is a pretty tough guy. It ends up with about a third of the zerg downed, another third trying to mass rez, and the remaining still trying to kill him.

During this time, we DR were of course keeping ourselves busy. I was rez bombing every time my cds were up, and the others were doing what their classes were best at. A handful of times some of the 80s would try to kill us, but they either died or quickly gave up and went back to rezzing.

Eventually, the damage outpaced their rezzing (especially after they started trying to mass hard rez), and their numbers dwindled, and eventually they were all dead.

During this fight, I had very little pressure on me. I was pretty much left to DPS freely. I said repeatedly that I didn’t do anything impressive in this fight, and that was true. We didn’t win because the four of us happened to be GW2 gods. We won because that commander led zerg tried to facetank Siegerazer while four people bombed them over and over and over.

This is how this reads:
I don’t know where I was, I have awesome map awareness, but don’t know where I am or where my spawn is. And yeah, by the way, they had mostly uplevels (and honestly there probably weren’t 20+) and we had a champion NPC on our side.

dreztina.4820:

Antara.3189:

Man you’re just a straight boss. You succeed at life, congratulations man. Tell me more.

One thing I want to learn how to do, is count 100+ of my allies while being spiked. That’s impressive.

I didn’t have to count. They posted screenshots on VN of the killspam and total killed.

Darek.1836:

wanna duel drez? I love killing eles

I prefer just roaming, but we can set something up if you’re on later tonight.

Shanks R Us.2489:

The most unbelievable part of this post……was that you found an AR zerg of 20+. Probably the WAR uplevel karma train.

See you Thursday night

It probably was. And I wouldn’t wait for fight club if you want to fight. Working late for a week or two and it’ll probably be over before I get home.

What map was this 20+ vs 4(ish) on?

Nuzt.7894:

dreztina.4820:

These guys made the Kzerg look like a highly skilled killing machine.

All servers have them, DR and FC included.

Stop feeding the troll. No one would have done what this person claims to have done, come onto the forums and posted it without some kind of screen shot unless it was a complete and utter nonsense.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dovgan.8605:

Newbkakes.4971:

Sorry AR, couldn’t resist.

Probably could have gotten away with 6 rams, that looks like a waste of supply and money.

Are you implying that WvW as a whole is not a massive waste of money? O.o

Done right it isn’t. We tend to make money while upgrading and throwing down siege. With the way they reworked the loot table you don’t make a profit?

Anvil Rock is still more than capable of putting soldiers on the field, we are hurting in off hour coverage. During peak times we can still do some pretty amazing things. The guilds that left for the most part were NA prime guilds, so I’m not sure where all our off hour coverage went.
Side note, really proud to be part of this community and seeing the work we have been putting in pay off a little.

Newbkakes.4971:

Sorry AR, couldn’t resist.

Probably could have gotten away with 6 rams, that looks like a waste of supply and money.

Ynot.8397:

Nuzt.7894:

Who’s Mad ? Truth hurt ?

You mad.

Greatest way to deflect .. ever..
I give this post 6/10

insanemaniac.2456:

Dovgan.8605:

“we can’t move up because of numbers/coverage.” Yeah I’m sure that’s it.

allow me to present anecdotal evidence and claim your entire server is full of bads:

No one is mad. Not any reason to be mad, but all I hear on these boards is how AR needs to look within to fix it’s problems, and how it’s an AR problem. Maybe your servers could use a bit of the same. Fact of the matter is I can do more with less than 10 AR players than a 40 man SF zerg. We had under 10 people retake and upgrade our corner of Eternal yesterday and hold it for a very long time. It isn’t about being mad, there are legit ways SF can improve, and that goes for FC and AR as well. However, a double team decided at the beginning of the match up isn’t one of them.

SF has the numbers, sure, but they are horrible in open field horrible in setting siege, terrible at defense. SF doesn’t lack anything but ability to be a viable contender in the T5 area.

FC you guys lack coverage/bodies(not by much though), and could work more with your PuGs. I know we are starting to do that more on AR, but they are few and far between.
Throwing bodies at a problem may work in t8, but anything past that and you are just a farm fest. That’s just the reality of WvW.

“we can’t move up because of numbers/coverage.” Yeah I’m sure that’s it.