Guild Wars 2

I see so much chest thumping from EBay and so much dumpster talk from Rekz, but when I think of Rekz, I think of this picture.

@Kardiamond You know me, tell this D/P Jinks fellow I’d be a super easy fight and he should come to ARBL and get them easy badges. Then he can snap a few more pics and post ’em.

Jinks.2057:

Dovgan.8605:

Jinks.2057:

Dovgan.8605:

What the EBay forum trolls fail to realize is that they may be contributing to the efforts of their server in the game, and that’s great, however if they were to log off for a week, the match outcome would have little variation. The forum trolls ego doesn’t allow them to get past the fact that as an individual they have very very little overall impact. What wins the match ups is coordination, teamwork, and over all coverage. Currently EBay is showing the best of these three categories. But superior individual skill and/or “dumpstering baddies”, yeah, no. 2 Rekz Guardians 1 Rekz warrior in their supply camp having a difficult time downing one solo ranger while he is also dealing with the camp guards doesn’t show me an excessive amount of “individual skill”. Fighting a thief in ARBL who after an amount of time that had to call for help, also not much a display of how skilled your individual player base is. If you want to claim higher individual skill, you may want to try and display it.

Hrmm I’ll just leave this right here mmkay

http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/Notsoserious/gw011_zps7c0791be.jpg

An online album with in game up skirts? Is this so I can feel sorry for you? Because if it is, it’s working…

Attempt to deflect and look kewl

3.7/10

Jinks 6 KAOS 0

LOL I can finally actually see that pic. Uh, that was Drak, and I don’t think he posts on the forums. I still feel sad for you taking video game upskirts. But congrats on killing one of my guildies I’m super impressed. Hard to kill a group built necro with a D/P thief. Hope you didn’t strain yourself.

Jinks.2057:

Dovgan.8605:

What the EBay forum trolls fail to realize is that they may be contributing to the efforts of their server in the game, and that’s great, however if they were to log off for a week, the match outcome would have little variation. The forum trolls ego doesn’t allow them to get past the fact that as an individual they have very very little overall impact. What wins the match ups is coordination, teamwork, and over all coverage. Currently EBay is showing the best of these three categories. But superior individual skill and/or “dumpstering baddies”, yeah, no. 2 Rekz Guardians 1 Rekz warrior in their supply camp having a difficult time downing one solo ranger while he is also dealing with the camp guards doesn’t show me an excessive amount of “individual skill”. Fighting a thief in ARBL who after an amount of time that had to call for help, also not much a display of how skilled your individual player base is. If you want to claim higher individual skill, you may want to try and display it.

Hrmm I’ll just leave this right here mmkay

http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z458/Notsoserious/gw011_zps7c0791be.jpg

An online album with in game up skirts? Is this so I can feel sorry for you? Because if it is, it’s working…

What the EBay forum trolls fail to realize is that they may be contributing to the efforts of their server in the game, and that’s great, however if they were to log off for a week, the match outcome would have little variation. The forum trolls ego doesn’t allow them to get past the fact that as an individual they have very very little overall impact. What wins the match ups is coordination, teamwork, and over all coverage. Currently EBay is showing the best of these three categories. But superior individual skill and/or “dumpstering baddies”, yeah, no. 2 Rekz Guardians 1 Rekz warrior in their supply camp having a difficult time downing one solo ranger while he is also dealing with the camp guards doesn’t show me an excessive amount of “individual skill”. Fighting a thief in ARBL who after an amount of time that had to call for help, also not much a display of how skilled your individual player base is. If you want to claim higher individual skill, you may want to try and display it.

Jinks.2057:

Dovgan.8605:

Jinks.2057:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Jinks.2057:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Jinks.2057:

Why do all rangers in your guild run away from a 1v1 to only come back with 5-10 buddies?

Just doesn’t make any kittening sense ya know?

Since you’re calling out a class from my guild, what class and guild are you from? Just based on your personality on these forums, I’m gonna take a guess that you’re probably a thief. If you are a thief, then I rarely see an Ebay thief without another thief around. Which guild?

I run my own guild mate.

So was I right? You’re a thief? Since you can’t answer a simple question, am I to take it your guild name is some sort of variant of Jinks? Is it like JNKS or something like that?

I think I remember a seeing a thief from a guild with a name like that Sunday night? If it was Sunday night, then that Ranger was me because Dovgan was on his warrior. And if it was Sunday night then there was never a 1v1 opportunity. We were dealing with like 3 or 4 thieves outside the tower and near the ruins and south camp. There were the two blue haired twin thieves from GF and a little Asura thief running with them. Then there was another thief from an Ebay guild who would jump in from time to time. Then there was you(if that was you). Hardly a 1v1.

And since Ebay kept hitting the two supply camps, it was getting the attention of other AR defenders and since the fights were happening in pretty high traffic areas — you’re going to run into them. No one needs to “call for help” when you’re server is hitting the south supply camp and fighting around the ruins and towers.

Por fa friggin vor.

I’m pretty much near Stargrove most every night. I’m generally solo or running with Dovgan. Either way, I’ll be happy to find a spot to fight you 1v1 so the camp guards don’t help. I might lose the fight(I make no claim to be a very good player), but I certainly won’t run from it.

We’ve been fighting for weeks…that wasnt the first time I’ve encountered your guild

Unfortunately then, you aren’t as memorable as we seem to be to you. Over the weeks, I’ve had some fun fights with some really good EBay thieves, you aren’t one of them.

That was an absolute awesomely witty reply……except your guildie already contradicted you a few posts back………

Ya thx try again

I don’t know if you understand what contradicted means. If they kind of remember some random that may have been you, but not any mysterious 1 v 1 that you have concocted in your head, I still have no clue who you may have been. If you were ever a 1 v 1 I don’t remember you.

Jinks.2057:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Jinks.2057:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Jinks.2057:

Why do all rangers in your guild run away from a 1v1 to only come back with 5-10 buddies?

Just doesn’t make any kittening sense ya know?

Since you’re calling out a class from my guild, what class and guild are you from? Just based on your personality on these forums, I’m gonna take a guess that you’re probably a thief. If you are a thief, then I rarely see an Ebay thief without another thief around. Which guild?

I run my own guild mate.

So was I right? You’re a thief? Since you can’t answer a simple question, am I to take it your guild name is some sort of variant of Jinks? Is it like JNKS or something like that?

I think I remember a seeing a thief from a guild with a name like that Sunday night? If it was Sunday night, then that Ranger was me because Dovgan was on his warrior. And if it was Sunday night then there was never a 1v1 opportunity. We were dealing with like 3 or 4 thieves outside the tower and near the ruins and south camp. There were the two blue haired twin thieves from GF and a little Asura thief running with them. Then there was another thief from an Ebay guild who would jump in from time to time. Then there was you(if that was you). Hardly a 1v1.

And since Ebay kept hitting the two supply camps, it was getting the attention of other AR defenders and since the fights were happening in pretty high traffic areas — you’re going to run into them. No one needs to “call for help” when you’re server is hitting the south supply camp and fighting around the ruins and towers.

Por fa friggin vor.

I’m pretty much near Stargrove most every night. I’m generally solo or running with Dovgan. Either way, I’ll be happy to find a spot to fight you 1v1 so the camp guards don’t help. I might lose the fight(I make no claim to be a very good player), but I certainly won’t run from it.

We’ve been fighting for weeks…that wasnt the first time I’ve encountered your guild

Unfortunately then, you aren’t as memorable as we seem to be to you. Over the weeks, I’ve had some fun fights with some really good EBay thieves, you aren’t one of them.

Jinks.2057:

Dovgan.8605:

Which guild? I assume its LPC. I don’t run that tag in WvW. For the most part, that is the PvE players in the guild. And I would have to assume that would answer your question. As far as either guild though, you won’t see either with over 10 active at any given time, because, well, that’s all there are. KAOS was formed because we wanted to have dedicated WvW buffs and didn’t want to dip into the PvE pool.
If you ran into an LPC ranger, they were probably there for dailies. There is a difference between an LPC WvWer and a KAOS WvWer. KAOS spends 99% of the time in WvW. LPC goes in for dailies and to play about with KAOS. Man that’s confusing.

KAOS tag

Would love to know where and when this was and what race. There are only 2 rangers in KAOS that WvW regularly, and they both run bunker(I’m one of them). Neither of us are known for running from a 1 v 1, especially from a thief. Leave after 10-15 minutes after fighting the really trolly s/d build maybe. And none of which that will ever come back with 10-15 people.

Which guild? I assume its LPC. I don’t run that tag in WvW. For the most part, that is the PvE players in the guild. And I would have to assume that would answer your question. As far as either guild though, you won’t see either with over 10 active at any given time, because, well, that’s all there are. KAOS was formed because we wanted to have dedicated WvW buffs and didn’t want to dip into the PvE pool.
If you ran into an LPC ranger, they were probably there for dailies. There is a difference between an LPC WvWer and a KAOS WvWer. KAOS spends 99% of the time in WvW. LPC goes in for dailies and to play about with KAOS. Man that’s confusing.

I keep hearing about how AR is in a bad position if they are allied with BP to fight a common enemy. Which is not truly the case, but whatever. If AR was allied with BP and it was so terrible for them, why is it that the only server that is dropping rank isn’t AR or BP?

llkoolaid.8204:

Wow Dovgan, We were talking about AR complaining about not having enough people and you get mad and try to make this personal. It’s a sad tactic. Maybe if you played as much as your useless post your server would queue up more than one bl at a time.

Jimmies rustled. Thanks for dancing.

PS It’s a slow day at work, if I were home I’d be on.

Khayoss.2019:

dunnberry.2964:

Congrats on having so many players and having guilds from 1 of those servers transfer to you! You are so skilled!

No guilds from either of those servers have transferred to us. A small number of AR players from various backgrounds have defected to both servers as a result of the 9 week stale matchup – a number that the AR commanders deem insignificant and we do to.

always nice to see how a server really feels about transfers. This should be in a recruitment thread. “Come to Ehmry Bay, be INSIGNIFIGANT!” That’ll get folks rolling in.

/popcorn
Enjoying watching EBay trolls who have little impact overall chest thumping like they beat 2 servers solo. Also cool seeing them ooze out of EBays cracks and on to the forum.
Continue.

Amins.3710:

Its amazing what a small group of people can do, regardless of the sheer numbers that oppose them: http://youtu.be/77cjfQy9Kcw

One thing I’ve never noticed on BP & AR are small tactical groups. If you guys would find a grp to do this, you could be flanking FTF/GH/PK or running interupts, much like Sekz & GF does.

Just saying…

Superior Tactics.

Funny you should mention this.

llkoolaid.8204:

Dovgan.8605:

llkoolaid.8204:

Kodiack.2783:

llkoolaid.8204:

Kodiack.2783:

Ebay just reached a new level of low.

Posting a score of 695 ppt @ 3am.

Your the green server. You have the population of a T4 server, in T5. And your bragging about this @ 3am?

one word. Classless.

-K

hahahahaha

“a new level of low”

Just a few weeks ago you said that in t4 they paint another servers bl completely before bragging about it, but in t5 I guess the garri will do.

Now you’re crying about this…

Hypocritical…

@ 3am.

Ebay was in 2nd place PPT for the first 3 hours of reset. Once everyone starting gong to bed 11pm my time, ebay started to catch up.

Of course, did anyone post screenshots of that?

-K

I’m surprised no one from AR or BP posted a screen shot. You guys did a good job double teaming us in our bl. Of course AR forgot about their own bl. But hey, who cares about home when you can attack the number one server in the match up…

I think you are confusing forgot and don’t have the people. ARBL was running outmanned until AR forces moved off EBay BL. You don’t seem to understand, so I will explain. We can queue up one map on reset night, it was EBay BL last night. On rare occasions AR can queue up a BL and Eternal on a reset night. Of the three servers in this matchup AR has the overall lowest WvW population and coverage. That’s just how it is on AR. The tier below AR had an edge in population and coverage and BP had the edge on AR. I’m curious as to how many maps EBay had a queue on last night(the standard answer is “we only had a queue on our BL, we swears it.”)

Looks like you should have taken care of your home… Well I guess in the end we would have capped every point anyways. On reset night. I would like to see AR or BP come close to that, on any night.

Oh and that whole “we don’t have people” crying excuse sounds a lot like your problem. Either fix it, leave or stop kitten complaining about it…

AR isn’t complaining, and we don’t see it as a problem. We are used to doing more with less. Pretty sure that was proven with the fight we had vs. Kaineng. Anyone remember what happened when EBay met Kaineng? You gave up, collapsed and failed as a server. AR did better against far worse odds than EBay. You can talk about how “good” your house of cards server is, but as soon as pressure hits the true EBay comes out. Heck even with lower population than AR, NSP outperformed EBay against an overwhelming force. Your server history clearly speaks louder than your forum trolls.

Noice.8730:

Kodiack.2783:

llkoolaid.8204:

Kodiack.2783:

Ebay just reached a new level of low.

Posting a score of 695 ppt @ 3am.

Your the green server. You have the population of a T4 server, in T5. And your bragging about this @ 3am?

one word. Classless.

-K

hahahahaha

“a new level of low”

Just a few weeks ago you said that in t4 they paint another servers bl completely before bragging about it, but in t5 I guess the garri will do.

Now you’re crying about this…

Hypocritical…

@ 3am.

Ebay was in 2nd place PPT for the first 3 hours of reset. Once everyone starting gong to bed 11pm my time, ebay started to catch up.

Of course, did anyone post screenshots of that?

-K

don’t worry you’ll be 3rd place at reset next week

So like every other reset? Oh noes!

llkoolaid.8204:

Kodiack.2783:

llkoolaid.8204:

Kodiack.2783:

Ebay just reached a new level of low.

Posting a score of 695 ppt @ 3am.

Your the green server. You have the population of a T4 server, in T5. And your bragging about this @ 3am?

one word. Classless.

-K

hahahahaha

“a new level of low”

Just a few weeks ago you said that in t4 they paint another servers bl completely before bragging about it, but in t5 I guess the garri will do.

Now you’re crying about this…

Hypocritical…

@ 3am.

Ebay was in 2nd place PPT for the first 3 hours of reset. Once everyone starting gong to bed 11pm my time, ebay started to catch up.

Of course, did anyone post screenshots of that?

-K

I’m surprised no one from AR or BP posted a screen shot. You guys did a good job double teaming us in our bl. Of course AR forgot about their own bl. But hey, who cares about home when you can attack the number one server in the match up…

I think you are confusing forgot and don’t have the people. ARBL was running outmanned until AR forces moved off EBay BL. You don’t seem to understand, so I will explain. We can queue up one map on reset night, it was EBay BL last night. On rare occasions AR can queue up a BL and Eternal on a reset night. Of the three servers in this matchup AR has the overall lowest WvW population and coverage. That’s just how it is on AR. The tier below AR had an edge in population and coverage and BP had the edge on AR. I’m curious as to how many maps EBay had a queue on last night(the standard answer is “we only had a queue on our BL, we swears it.”)

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Tranto.6084:

To be honest I’m Kinda tired of the fight BP and AR put up you either attack our towers hide in your towers and wait for us to take it or when we hit you you run for dear life? yo whats with that?

If you think that’s exclusive to just AR and BP you’ve got your head in the sand or in other places.

Yep, we chase you cupcakes into towers/keeps/spawn regularly.

Tranto.6084:

To be honest I’m Kinda tired of the fight BP and AR put up you either attack our towers hide in your towers and wait for us to take it or when we hit you you run for dear life? yo whats with that?

I know I’ve seen some players do that on even numbers, but if the numbers are severely skewed it’s smart play to use a defensible position. If it’s open field and my guild are outnumbered though we aren’t running in fear, we are using the terrain to split your main force. The reason we build at least one of our members with a decent dueling build and some mobility(why we generally use a ranger, warrior would work OK too just slightly less regen/mobile in combat). Sadly some of you have figured this out and don’t split as easily. We like when you do though, it’s much easier to beat a larger group when it breaks apart.

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

I logged of about an hour before reset to spend some time with the Misses. Had every intention of getting on later to enjoy what I thought was going to be a fun night. I never did get a chance to log back on, but Judging from what I see here – glad I missed it.

All Green? A sincere congrats for that feat. I must concur with Straegen — that feat makes it pretty obvious you guys shouldn’t be in this tier. And that feat will be sure to cause less AR and BP to bother with WvW.

Right now I sit here wondering… do I log in to GW2 and try to help take stuff back(if it isnt taken back already)? Or do I log into another game?

You know I do like an uphill fight. Besides that we got some boot camp activities to conduct. That just gives us more real estate to work with. Take it all again, gives us something to do later.

To say there is no “hardcore” WvW below tier 4 is to say Kaineng isn’t a hardcore WvW server up until the point of transfer madness, and I will bet the original Kain’s would disagree. It isn’t about holding alliegence to a server, but to the community on that server, something transfer happy people seem to lack. Players that stay with a server through the highs and lows, those players are “hardcore”.
On a super fun side note, how was that rise to T1…. oh sorry, too soon?

nothing.7941:

Props to AR, after all the talk of transfers and a pretty big points gap y’all have done a great job of fighting back in the past 2 days. Well played so far, hope we can nose you at the finish line.

Yeah, yeah, playin for 2nd, w/e.

Yeah, you don’t see a lot of quit from AR. Stubborn server with stubborn players. Even vs. the transfer monster that was Kaineng, there was AR with 15 balistas holding the N supply camp in our BL, because they were NOT taking everything. AR doesn’t play for a place, these folks like to fight. Would we prefer an even match up, sure sometimes, but then again, where is the fun in that?

Archer.1658:

Pestilence.3184:

Archer.1658:

Pestilence.3184:

Archer.1658:

This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.

tower hugging is part and parcel of the game this is not SPVP towers / Keeps and camps are where the points are so hugging a tower is essential after all some of them do get lonely. Fighting in open field is fun and all but at the end of the day those towers and keeps are what gives you points using the guards for an advantage is something every server does including Ehmry there been many of times ive beaten guys and they know they cant do the same to me so they try to lure me to guards to get an advantage especially thieves they will use any advantage they can get (Not like they need 1 8k backstabs constant blinds stealth BAH!!)

Towers and keeps need love too!

I’m not trying to take your towers or keeps, I’m here for the loot. It’s true, sPvP isn’t WvW, but that doesn’t mean the mindset should be specifically about hiding in towers/keeps because of ones fear of being zerged or the structure being taken. This is one of the reasons why the skill gap between Ebay and BP is that significant, I will jump down and fight outnumbered, where as BP will sit and spam AC’s. Justifying “hiding” when you have more people is impossible.

ahh but do you play 1 of those OP classes you know the ones i mean too, cause if its say a warrior sat in the tower and your say a mes or thief chances are unless its avery good warrior he will just sit there regardless. ive noticed how the fields are flooded lately with either mesers thief or ele’s those classes make up 75% of most forces now

Define OP? I play Mes/Warrior/Guard/Ranger and I’ve never had problems killing other professions on any of them. You could argue thief or mesmer is “OP”, however when if I kill you on a ranger, is ranger OP now?

We all know ranger is OP. That’s a silly question.

Kalkz.5297:

Evilzara.6378:

matthen.5024:

Evilzara.6378:

The only reason Ehmry didn’t do well in tier 4 before was because of Yaks/Maguuma. Now that both of them are in tier 3, I think Ehmry can easily win tier 4.

It seems that you have a lot of faith in us… or is that sarcasm? I can’t see your face (or hear your voice for that matter).

My goal is to put up a good fight in T4, assuming we can get out of this deadlock. Based on my last experience in T4, I think that’s a reasonable goal. Easily win? That sounds extremely unlikely.

Definitely not sarcasm. You guys are better than you think. It just doesn’t show right now because you’re fighting us and AR.

No. Ive been in almost very tier in this game, i know the good from the bad from the decent server

Ehmry people are full of themsevles “thats good”
My view on their server is they can Only master tier 5, once they reach tier 4 they will do good for the 1st one week and manage to beat Blue
Then ehmry will move blue and keep getting crushed by tier 3 losers over and over just like BP and AR now, then Ehmry will reach a point to become tier 4 loser and drop to tier 5 again, JUST like BP and AR now, one of us might drop

At the end BP and Ebay will be meeting again in tier 5, no offence to my server, AR, or Ebay.
Its a game, today youre crushing, trash talking about how bad BP and AR is, tomorrow you will get crushed, and other servers will be explaining how ehmry is bad, same thing goes with every tier and server in this game
Im saying FACTS and time shall prove my words

I always find the ridiculously inflated egos that can be found on a forum enjoyable, partially why I enjoy trolling Kalkz so much, but in this instance I agree with Kalkz(relax it won’t happen often). That’s the way it’s been through every tier, with every server AR has faced.

bradderzh.2378:

I actually see a lot more people

You could have stopped right there. I have to agree with the why BP statement. It’s not that we aren’t willing to defend, and after a day sitting on hills in our BL(Yes I moved from Eternal, the BL’s seem to be a better area to roam) I would disagree. I think it was more your time slot than it was the server.

I enjoy reading these threads. I think what the OP needs to look at is which of the server choices on their list has lost WvW guilds and why they have lost them. Moving a large number of players to a server is a huge, expensive undertaking. Moving to a server where large guilds have left may be a red flag. Those players left for a reason. Maybe it was because they wanted a challenge that they felt the current server they were on was not willing to try and achieve, or maybe it was due to a painfully acidic/bad/negative WvW community. What the OP also needs to realize is they are going to get how “excellent” the WvW community is on those servers up until they transfer.

ekleenex.1654:

Kardiamond.6952:

Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.

Lol. I don’t even..

Kardiamond.6952:

They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.

I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.

Small man syndrome once again, anything more then 1-5 is a zerg, typical low tier mentality. All I can say is beating on 60+ man groups is a lot more enjoyable then playing paddy cake with small man in some remote corner of the map. And congratulations, you picked off someone who is running a support build trying to go stomp actual zergs with their guild. Nobody cares about your 1v1 small man prowess. But I’m sure every server will thank their solo roamers for the great WvWvW contributions. I love small man groups, and running in them. But the ones who post on here are, humorous. It’s almost like PAXA, except worse.

There will always be small man/solo fights in WvW, that’s just open world PvP. On the other hand if that small man/solo is coordinating with a commander. Misdirecting traffic on the enemy side, capping points/camps. They are pretty useful.

Evilzara.6378:

tas.6310:

Dovgan.8605:

Pestilence.3184:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

did u not read the post above ?

Not online, and not mad. Just letting you know that you better stay inside a zerg or you are going to for repair.
Facts aren’t anger, they are just facts. I can drop you with little to no effort.

you’re cool. drop me harder

No argument means you agree.

Don’t get me wrong, you are great at rallying players to a zerg, a semi competent leader, just a bad player.

thanks, my build is full toughness and healing power, i heal people around me and take a lot of damage, it was built to support a group/zerg. it wasnt meant to 1v1 people

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. It won’t make you better as a player, but as long as it puts your mind at ease.

Kalkz has a point lol this is WVW not SPVP, peeps IN wvw should build there builds to compensate the groups not for 1vs1 action

you can sit there and troll him all you like but at the end of it all IF he wasnt built that way he would be far worse as a commander like a few commanders ive seen fighting us, you can spit on them and they die. WVW is not SPVP.

If what Kalkz was saying was true, then I would agree. But in both WvW and sPvP your build should always be set up for group cohesion and use of combos. That really doesn’t change (You should also have multiple builds ready and the gear depending on what you are doing). For a character with a lot of toughness and healing, he drops like a lead balloon. Maybe some of you folks on Borlis can figure out what he does wrong. I have fought some VERY tanky characters, and Kalkz is not one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTGFj7gT0OU

That’s so relevant. I think it’s too relevant..

I completely agree, much like the lead balloon, one hit and Kalkz runs away sacrificing every PuG to save his/her own hide.

Pestilence.3184:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

did u not read the post above ?

Not online, and not mad. Just letting you know that you better stay inside a zerg or you are going to for repair.
Facts aren’t anger, they are just facts. I can drop you with little to no effort.

you’re cool. drop me harder

No argument means you agree.

Don’t get me wrong, you are great at rallying players to a zerg, a semi competent leader, just a bad player.

thanks, my build is full toughness and healing power, i heal people around me and take a lot of damage, it was built to support a group/zerg. it wasnt meant to 1v1 people

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. It won’t make you better as a player, but as long as it puts your mind at ease.

Kalkz has a point lol this is WVW not SPVP, peeps IN wvw should build there builds to compensate the groups not for 1vs1 action

you can sit there and troll him all you like but at the end of it all IF he wasnt built that way he would be far worse as a commander like a few commanders ive seen fighting us, you can spit on them and they die. WVW is not SPVP.

If what Kalkz was saying was true, then I would agree. But in both WvW and sPvP your build should always be set up for group cohesion and use of combos. That really doesn’t change (You should also have multiple builds ready and the gear depending on what you are doing). For a character with a lot of toughness and healing, he drops like a lead balloon. Maybe some of you folks on Borlis can figure out what he does wrong. I have fought some VERY tanky characters, and Kalkz is not one of them.

Kalkz.5297:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

did u not read the post above ?

Not online, and not mad. Just letting you know that you better stay inside a zerg or you are going to for repair.
Facts aren’t anger, they are just facts. I can drop you with little to no effort.

you’re cool. drop me harder

No argument means you agree.

Don’t get me wrong, you are great at rallying players to a zerg, a semi competent leader, just a bad player.

thanks, my build is full toughness and healing power, i heal people around me and take a lot of damage, it was built to support a group/zerg. it wasnt meant to 1v1 people

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. It won’t make you better as a player, but as long as it puts your mind at ease.

Kalkz.5297:

Dovgan.8605:

Kalkz.5297:

did u not read the post above ?

Not online, and not mad. Just letting you know that you better stay inside a zerg or you are going to for repair.
Facts aren’t anger, they are just facts. I can drop you with little to no effort.

you’re cool. drop me harder

No argument means you agree.

Don’t get me wrong, you are great at rallying players to a zerg, a semi competent leader, just a bad player.

Kalkz.5297:

did u not read the post above ?

Not online, and not mad. Just letting you know that you better stay inside a zerg or you are going to for repair.
Facts aren’t anger, they are just facts. I can drop you with little to no effort.

Kalkz.5297:

Sorry AR. someone had to do it for the sake of the Red Valley yesterday. and i dont want to hear a word about PVD because it was at 10 am server time
“i dont know if thats a good time in usa to paly gw2”

Kalkz happend i guess

Keep fighting them doors Kalkz. Stay away from anything that resembles actual combat. Stay in a zerg, we see you outside of it we’re sending you for repairs, unless of course you bail off a cliff.

BP says, “After reset both Red and Blue should attack Green”
Translation : Red, you attack Green while we attack you. We like the easy points!
The reason that AR and BP can never work together in the manner that BP consistently puts out there is because, as a whole Borlis Pass has proven to be the least trustworthy server we have ever faced. That hasn’t changed since the game was released.
Test Pig keeps trying to present a map where the two lower servers concentrate on the higher server, but his server, for the most part, doesn’t want that to happen. Then comes on here to complain about how Anvil Rock is fighting for second place and blah blah blahblah blah.
If BP wanted this imaginary Red/Blue vs Green they wouldn’t consistently attack Red, and well after reset. They just want Red to leave them alone and make it easier for them to get second place. We at Anvil Rock get that, and that’s why the imaginary 2nd and 3rd working against first and keeping matches never works out when one of the three servers is Borlis Pass.
AR likes a good fight, we always have. BP like fighting doors and avoiding conflict to maintain the illusion that they deserve to be called anything more than a zerg server.
EBay, still like you guys, especially when you use coordinated strikes to take an objective. Keeps us on our toes.

An example of Borlis Pass using the strategy Test Pig so boldly uses every round:

Kalkz.5297:

2v1

interesting

If you haven’t figured it out by now, some of our larger guilds on AR are on a vacation from the home BL and are romping about in Eternal. What EBay does has very little to do with that, they have their own motivations and are their own server. They decide to attack your BL, then that’s what they decide, there really isn’t some conspiracy.

p.s. Its WvWvW, it’s always 2v1, imagine if there was another W, there would be a potential for 3 v 1!

So, I’m stuck at work/on call until Monday. Hopefully someone will run havoc in ARBL while I’m trapped doing the bidding of “The Man”. What’s the current score situation?

I saw the swords and figured you two came to a head on the north side.

goodchick.8461:

i am so sorry ar for portaling ppl in and stealing bay then garri then hills it was fun in your borderlines XD

You didn’t need to steal it, you could have just melee’d the door down, we were outmanned and had 4 actives on the map. That’s why only 2 people came to defend Bay, and our full force of 4 came to the defense of Garrison. You may want to talk to EBay about Hills though, looked pretty green.

Straegen.2938:

PaLeRiDeR.5908:

I’m sure that by now we would all love a new match up.

I am still hopeful that a May miracle will happen and BP/AR team up against EBay so the BP/AR fights are in Ebays backyard without losing a ton of real estate to go on the offensive. Seems like when AR or BP get something rolling against EBay the other server hits them hard.

Even if it doesn’t happen, at least AR and BP can frolic through a blue backyard instead of red.

I personally look forward to the color change. I don’t like being Blue, too close to the grub. The only time you ever really see 2 servers working on a map are Green and Blue or Green and Red(more so this the last match-up). AR doesn’t really mind the fights though, which is why the constant crying has ceased on the thread. I for one am happy it’s a bit more civil on here. Sure you get the few and far between, but I think that’s unavoidable.
Messing with a few other build options and weapon mixes while I roam trying to find a mix up I’m most comfortable with, so I won’t be at 100% and the fights on ARBL are helping me out. (Really sad when all we have is 4 people actually moving on the BL from AR though, I feel like an outlaw.)

PaLeRiDeR.5908:

peter.9024:

Luzano.6983:

Boottspurr.9184:

Hey guys, I just put up a build video for my warrior in WvW, and besides the commentary it’s basically just a bunch of fights with BP and AR while I was roaming.

I thought you guys might enjoy it:
http://youtu.be/fh2SMUPRrbo

That Warrior build is so hard to catch :| and people complain about Ele RTL lol.

Great commentary esp for people that are new. Solid video overall too.

Ps. I spy Skullclamp (BP warr with legendary GS)

Ohhh, that’s how i look like from the other side

Ya, thats what it looks like from that side…..hats off to you man, every time I fought you I’ve lost unless I had a hand. Best warrior ive seen on another server fo sho.

Hey, I recognize that name, Skullclamp. Just can’t place it… hmm.

I know there are [EDGE] that post on here. How long you guys hitting me in the back before I moved, sorry I was AFK there a bit in Redvale. Oh btw you guys just leave my arrow cart up there, makes it super hard to recap them supply camps

There are really 2 different types of player that will complain about this change, the open field GvG player that just wants 2 evenly matched opponents, and could care less if all siege, heck even structures were removed. I feel bad for those players, and while WvW sometimes allows for this to occur, that isn’t the game you are playing. There should be an alternate GvG structure, but that isn’t what WvW is, it’s about capturing and controlling points. Now while this leads to epic confrontations where armies collide, that is not the point of WvW.
Then there is the zergballing player who now cannot waltz about pressing 1 feverishly and get free WXP handouts. I think it’s great that players will be forced to think on their own.

Caliban.3176:

Dovgan.8605:

Cyril.1486:

I cannot believe for the life of me there are people that actually defend this change. Come on wake up smell the coffee, I wanna zerg up some easy WXP.

fixed

Did they remove the siege cap, trebuchets, catapults, and balistas? If not, why are arrow carts such big issue? Because “Everybody Stack!” “Build!” isn’t working for you. This hurts mindless gameplay, why would I defend that?

LOL You just called RG wxp zergers.

You just took away all value from your posts.

Maybe we aren’t watching the same videos. Not sure how that would get past someone with such a keen grasp on things. RG is a great open field guild, they aren’t touting about their siege prowess. They, as I am sure most are, know point caps is the fastest way to accrue WXP, maybe you missed the memo. Not sure where I lost you. Maybe I can type slower.

Jackie.1829:

Cyril.1486:

I cannot believe for the life of me there are people that actually defend this change. Come on wake up smell the coffee.

No you dont understand. You need to use advanced tactics. L2play.

Not advanced, just some.

Cyril.1486:

I cannot believe for the life of me there are people that actually defend this change. Come on wake up smell the coffee, I wanna zerg up some easy WXP.

fixed

Did they remove the siege cap, trebuchets, catapults, and balistas? If not, why are arrow carts such big issue? Because “Everybody Stack!” “Build!” isn’t working for you. This hurts mindless gameplay, why would I defend that?

FractalChaos.6539:

Bones.5762:

scanz.4536:

Those supporting this change are only looking at it from a defensive point of view. Yes, it’s great that it now requires less people to defend a tower/keep from an oversized zerg through the use of powerful arrow carts. However, how is a small sized guild/squad meant to have any success in attacking a tower/keep? 2 or 3 people will be able to hold off a group of 10-20 with no problem whatsoever with the new upgrades. This will in turn force people to increase the size of their group, so once again encouraging people to run in a ridiculously sized zerg.

If I am understanding you here, the argument is; “This change hurts you more than it helps you because now the ENEMY can defend better too!”

I say again; good.

ACs aren’t overpowered, they’re now as powerful as they were meant to be. That’s all. These claims that 3 people can hold off 25 and that 5 people can hold off 50…that’s just fear mongering and a lot of hyperventilation.

On our BL yesterday, SoR was fighting JQ over Bay at the south gate. We had arrow carts, we had AC operators (15-20?). JQ had more people (40 or so I guess?) and they won. They breached the wall in two spots while also attacking the gate, and created 3 ways in. It took longer, yes; but in the end, they won. You can’t build 5 arrow carts in every single place the enemy can possibly breach; that means the enemy can get in.

Simple logic.

A significant numerical advantage will still win you the fights and the PPT; you’re just going to have to work for it now instead of letting 10 people zerg the door down while the other 20 all /dance and /sleep.

Oh no, that can’t be right. Using a tactical approach to get past the GOD carts and a well thought out strategy worked? And in the end they all worked together to achieve a common goal? And they probably felt like they actually accomplished something? Ridiculous.

Aneu.1748:

Dovgan.8605:

Ravak.8912:

Aneu.1748:

How does it make a zerg split up? When it takes LESS people to defend than it does to attack how do you really think smaller groups will be able to cap anything? I mean really…

I don’t think he meant to split up and attack different objectives. Getting a tower (and especially a keep) should be a coordinated and group activity. Zerg could split into few groups and attack from different directions. Once one wall is down, each group would wait for other teams to knock down more walls, and only then simultaneously overwhelm defenders (as opposed to current “huzzah, wall down, rush to the lord” behaviour*).

• Going through a single choke point (which defenders are focusing on) SHOULD end in a disaster. As shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7UcSZuUQY

But that requires planing, organisation, and time. Previous WvW was SO easy (chu chu, karma train on the way). Well, times change and so will Commanders adapt. They will have to plan in advance, identify objectives, and assign roles (as opposed to current “build treb on me”, “push now”).

A lot of people complain about having nothing to do for small teams. Small team shouldn’t be able to capture anything (unless they use surprise). Small teams should focus on capturing depots (why you need 30+ people to flip a depot? waste of manpower), securing them, disturbing enemy dolyaks, or just roaming (disturbing enemy activity). Once you start bleeding a tower / keep dry enemies will leave their keeps and towers. They will know they need depots and dolyak routes running, otherwise they will get killed. With this system, the successful capture is dependant on such small teams doing their job. You get small scale fight while helping taking a larger objective. Win-win for me.

This guy gets it.

Gets what? Seriously… are people this naive?

You have 100 people that split into groups of 4, lets say these 100 are attacking Garrison… 25 on seperate gates… So what exactly will happen here? With arrowcarts on each gate it will take them a while and then what stops the enemy from blobbing into a group of 50+ and going out killing those 25 people then going back in and doing the same to all the 25 man groups… what exactly stops this? People are so focused on just siege defending and missing so many angles in this argument…

So you have 50 people defending a fortified structure, plus players manning arrow carts and holding off 4 different points. You shouldn’t be able to capture that unless you are using superior tactics. Why is that hard to grasp? If you attack an enemy of near equal number in a defensible location you should still win? Sure.

Ravak.8912:

Aneu.1748:

How does it make a zerg split up? When it takes LESS people to defend than it does to attack how do you really think smaller groups will be able to cap anything? I mean really…

I don’t think he meant to split up and attack different objectives. Getting a tower (and especially a keep) should be a coordinated and group activity. Zerg could split into few groups and attack from different directions. Once one wall is down, each group would wait for other teams to knock down more walls, and only then simultaneously overwhelm defenders (as opposed to current “huzzah, wall down, rush to the lord” behaviour*).

• Going through a single choke point (which defenders are focusing on) SHOULD end in a disaster. As shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7UcSZuUQY

But that requires planing, organisation, and time. Previous WvW was SO easy (chu chu, karma train on the way). Well, times change and so will Commanders adapt. They will have to plan in advance, identify objectives, and assign roles (as opposed to current “build treb on me”, “push now”).

A lot of people complain about having nothing to do for small teams. Small team shouldn’t be able to capture anything (unless they use surprise). Small teams should focus on capturing depots (why you need 30+ people to flip a depot? waste of manpower), securing them, disturbing enemy dolyaks, or just roaming (disturbing enemy activity). Once you start bleeding a tower / keep dry enemies will leave their keeps and towers. They will know they need depots and dolyak routes running, otherwise they will get killed. With this system, the successful capture is dependant on such small teams doing their job. You get small scale fight while helping taking a larger objective. Win-win for me.

This guy gets it.

So you would prefer a roaming zergball flipping points over and over for easy WXP with absolutely no risk, that’s all you had to say.

Aneu.1748:

Dovgan.8605:

Aneu.1748:

Dovgan.8605:

So wait, with siege actually having some kind of meaning, it forces huge groups to break apart, hit in multiple locations, and look for tactical ways to take a fortified structure? Well now, that’s just silly. Why can’t we just get groups of 70 people to beat a door down with limited repercussions? Sorry, I don’t mind the arrow cart changes, as a matter of fact I think all siege should have this kind of impact. Forcing players to think outside the box and adapt is what a great game does. So will players need to intelligently prepare a siege strategy now, sure, but it beats the heck out of a mindless zerg ball bashing 1 to capture a point. The good commanders will adapt to the change and come up with the techniques that work, the zerg commanders will fail now, and fail hard.

How does it make a zerg split up? When it takes LESS people to defend than it does to attack how do you really think smaller groups will be able to cap anything? I mean really…

Send 100 people to one door or send 25 to 4 different breakable locations. Or split forces to hit several different locations. Set a diversion up with 25 while the rest hit another keep. Use tactical approaches and break out of the zerg mindset.

If 5-10 people can hold off 100 and 2 can hold off 25 then how exactly does this resolve anything? Surely if 100 people are attacking a keep that has 5-10 people inside it then it should fall! Defence should be done by PEOPLE not siege! Siege should supplement it, not be the defining factor!

The greatest defenses in history were very few holding off very many because they had a defensible location. If you as an army rush in without a plan against a group in a strongly defensible location and die, who is at fault?