Guild Wars 2

GG nice pic. We bum rushed you in tonics. didn’t even attack you just kept running. A bunch of princesses, snowmen and other such nonsense.

Try getting facts of the situation before you attach a random pic of a great RP event.

PunK (this time) didn’t get charged by our tonic rush as they caught most of us as we came in the portal, was hoping to rush them on the top of the stairs in Garrison.

So if being charged by 30+/- in tonics is blobbing…. yes we blobbed you.

U will see me leading the charge, I’m the first princess doll next to the chicken behind your guy “Ragy the Guardian”

Genev.2450:

Dranul.2094:

I can’t speak for other guilds but TUP is a WvW guild first, love the random action – never know what you’re going to get around the next corner. An equal sized guild group, multiple guilds, or that huge kitten zerg. So there is no chance I will be xferring around just for 2 or 3 1hr fights with only 20 of my guys. That would leave almost the same amount doing nothing. I won’t interrupt my raids for a spur of the moment GvG – we set aside days for it.

We shouldn’t have too – there should be a platform for it. We all can agree on that. Thing I will never understand is they have GvG ladders and all such things in GW1. Sure the size was smaller, but they supported it. Why can’t they simply come out and say we plan on supporting you guys, we have started working on it – will be ready when its ready but we are working on it. OR come out and be a man say no chance nothing for you < reason they are keeping quiet is because if they told the truth (likely to be “no chance nothing for you”) a lot of guilds, a lot of players would leave in their droves in the not so distant future.

I haven’t listened to the league system, in theory though sounds good. I’ll keep my fingers they implement it in a good fashion.

What a dull matchup, FSP and RoS with us for the 2nd time in about a month. Nothing to fight, no guilds willing to accept a gvg – back to asuraball this week I feel

You would have the guilds to fight outside GvG as well… I do find it a bit funny though that you say you’re not transfering because you want fights, and then at the end complain about your matchup

A few guilds per server – varying days of activity, varying attitudes towards being wiped. If you checked what rank my opponents were this week – they aren’t middle tier, they are 6 and 9 ranks below AG. Therefore the type of server the guilds would be moving too. Absolutely dead servers a few guilds across 4 borderlands raiding on their respective days and times would not greatly improve the current dross that these 2 servers have.

I don’t complain about the mid tier servers, nor the chance of fighting higher tiered servers at all, quite the opposite. Pointing out that a handful of guilds per server would not make it that enjoyable. Think about it, 9 servers in the lowest league. Your going to need atleast 90 guilds involved. That only boils down to 10 guilds per server, 2.5 guilds per map… you see where i’m going with this.

Jelly of your matchup Gandara o/ . At least you got people to fight. 2nd time in around a month, we’ve been “rewarded” with a dying FSP server and a dead RoS. It’s really really hard to find a fight. Hell even when RoS managed to get 15-20+ & acs in one place the quality is so poor for the late night 10 tuppers – its like they are fresh faced from PVE and have never fought enemy players before

As for FSP with 1 guild leaving/left (to you) and another apparently leaving (although why anyone would go to piken is beyond me, do you want to play as a guild or queue as a guild hmm). FSP were enjoyable once, I think they have terrible morale atm – was a time when AG/Gand/FSP would of been one of the most sought after matchups for us.

Not to mention the amount of guilds available in your matchup for potential GvGs – not a single bite in ours.

Make the ram gods give me Gandara next reset!

TUP available for asuraball Tues/Thurs http://asuraball.net

I can’t speak for other guilds but TUP is a WvW guild first, love the random action – never know what you’re going to get around the next corner. An equal sized guild group, multiple guilds, or that huge kitten zerg. So there is no chance I will be xferring around just for 2 or 3 1hr fights with only 20 of my guys. That would leave almost the same amount doing nothing. I won’t interrupt my raids for a spur of the moment GvG – we set aside days for it.

We shouldn’t have too – there should be a platform for it. We all can agree on that. Thing I will never understand is they have GvG ladders and all such things in GW1. Sure the size was smaller, but they supported it. Why can’t they simply come out and say we plan on supporting you guys, we have started working on it – will be ready when its ready but we are working on it. OR come out and be a man say no chance nothing for you < reason they are keeping quiet is because if they told the truth (likely to be “no chance nothing for you”) a lot of guilds, a lot of players would leave in their droves in the not so distant future.

I haven’t listened to the league system, in theory though sounds good. I’ll keep my fingers they implement it in a good fashion.

What a dull matchup, FSP and RoS with us for the 2nd time in about a month. Nothing to fight, no guilds willing to accept a gvg – back to asuraball this week I feel

DW, PunK, Kale, AoA. None of you fine folks want a gvg this week? Available Tues and Thurs.

Awesome yet again ogre. As to others ducking matches, poor form. Hell we fought GD with whatever we had online and will continue in that way. Just a shame a lot don’t share our principles. How can you possibly test yourselves if you don’t try. Lame week ahead for us, terrible match up. I hope to see vii vs votf vs GD.. but some will dodge :-)

Ah well from a great matchup to what I think will be a quiet one. Cheers for the occasional fight on AG BL punk and kale, dw.

TUP available for GvGs 15-20 come give us a go.

So I switch toons and boom can’t log in. Less than an hour before reset and hundreds if not thousands complaining on ANET facebook page of same issue. Sort it out boyos.

As to the week, learning to stick to our guns and do what we are good at is one element to take from this week. Also, to not expect much in a organised GvG if you don’t have your usual setup online. Missing players all of a certain class really is noticeable. Was a great week none the less, a challenge which is why we play the game. Smashing our way through zergs while fun isn’t the same as coming across skilled opponents and different styles.

Special thanks to War, VotF and GD and in general to both servers for bringing the action.

The ram gods will reward me now with Riverside and the Blobby Mouth. Althou with 87g on our inguild reset gamble rollover I am hoping for Millers and Fort Ranik.

Thanks for the great week AR + ER.

Hopefully not to long till we meet again.

Kind regards Dranul

VII brought the pain in the first round. Then from watching the stream, they seemed far less aggressive in the following rounds. Rather than put Scnd on the back foot which worked so well in the first round they seemed to spread more and Scnd got the edge in the longer fights.

Well @EFWinters – the easiest solution would be to have a board for:

10 and under
15-11
20-16
21+

Sometimes in the past with ppl dc’ing or be it late night, I’ve had some 12v12s, 14v14s, 17v17s. End of the day its just about the fight, always waiting for that 15 or 20 can be a pain.

Hype about next episode. If I forgot to mention to VotF and WAR thanks both for the fun.

To VotF – thank you for the thrilling bloodbaths the later rounds provided.

Not sure Ogre. In PM to you a guy- Recorded as a spectator our clashes with VotF and War. No idea the quality of the angle.

Round 3, 4 and 5 were incredibly tense and so many dead bodies everywhere.

Well deserved victory, the taste of defeat makes me yearn for more We all learn from defeats and tough tests.

Not sure if VotF streamed?? , we didn’t have our streamer stream, I know a few fraps it. But whether or not they have something ready anytime soon I dunno.

Hope VotF has something if the spectator twitch I linked isn’t ideal.

SabreWalrus.8647:

I need to know the general community’s opinion on something. We all know that dodging happens, but where do we stand when a confirmed GvG gets cancelled?

This week, Mya cancelled their GvG against us. This is not a normal “dodge” – this is a fight that had been organised and confirmed, and was even up on the GW2 GvG site under “upcoming GvG’s”.

Scnd has transferred to Riverside for a GvG tour week and Mya was our first match today. They cancelled on us yesterday, with less than 24hrs notice. We, as a guild, do not feel as though their reasons are acceptable and we are extremely disappointed.

I can understand not wanting official GvG’s if you are lacking leaders, core members, and the like, but when you confirm a GvG that is a commitment that you would expect people to upkeep. You can’t really go from wanting an official fight one day, to only a scrimm the next without a big reason.

If both sides do not agree on the cancelling of the fight, does it count as a forfeit and an instant loss for the guild pulling out? Surely pulling out of a confirmed GvG looks worse on your “rep” than if you were to lose a match.

Best line ever for this “kitten Happens”.

No but in all seriousness, it’s a game. In TUP at least if someone doesn’t log in, misses a raid or misses a GvG – that’s life. RL > Gaming stuff comes up. If for whatever reason in my guild we missed our GvG leader(s) then yes I’d expect the guys not to go ahead with a GvG as there would be no one to lead. Just last week we had someone cancel on us a mere 4 hours before the GvG was spose to take place. It sucked and couldn’t get a replacement. That is life.

I have yet to use the “confirmed” button on site. As I don’t enforce a certain amount of time for my guildies to play or days they must be on, game not job. We have 3 GvGs this week, 2 tonight, will it be 20v20 ideally, but can drop to 15v15 depending on how many are on. I think the “confirm” button is not needed. People form contacts ingame and make preliminary arrangements as to GvGs. Remain hopeful and optimistic, don’t treat them as dentist appointments

Yet again the negatives get highlighted re: the site, rather than the positives. A GvG got canceled, it’s a shame but there could be any number of reasons far more important than a game.

As for forfeit, instant loss… Please don’t turn into caring about the ratings, while I understand your disappointment for missing out on a good fight – please all remember its a game and while being let down is unfortunate. It’s not the end of the world.

Mya are not that type of guild.

Same goes for middle of a GvG, kitten happens. Bet no one else has had their GvG leader have to rush off to go have a baby huh huh.

Bump for thread. Cheers VotF for the stern challenge you provided. Looking forward to the GvG and the week ahead.

Nice job on the show Ogre. Looking forward to a potentially quality week in store for us. Hoping to get the trio of VotF, WAR and GD. 2 out of 3 lined up atm, GD having some issues with numbers atm, so I remain hopeful they will be our 3rd of the week.

Either way, keep up the good work boyo.

As to the Orbageddon we shall keep our fingers crossed on that front.

violentlycar.5267:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are focused on making WvW as fun as it can possibly be and we will continue to make changes to WvW with that in mind.

Your changes have focused on making siege a stronger and more central part of WvW while the community at large wants siege to be a supplement at best. I can’t help but feel like we’re not on the same page here, and it’s making the players resentful.

Bang on. At the end of the day they are a business, in it to make money, to milk the cash cow that is the casuals. Not guilds, they don’t give a hoot about what the majority want in the game. It’s a shame as it has massive potential, as pointed out in another thread the combat system is great. The devs though… lean more and more towards zzz siege wars.

Having seen them play in WvW on my server, it was obvious they play a different game to the guilds who roam and clash in WvW.

They don’t even know what they have. E-sport spvp… fail, fighting and holding objectives. When you have hundreds of guilds that would jump at the chance for 10v10, 15v15, 20v20 even 25v25. To battle it out mano a mano.

The fact they shun and ignore the roamers, the organised groups, the people who play to fight others, not sit in keeps zzzz.

I say again to the devs, which game are you promoting..

Option 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1nPnuO_VKw

or

Option 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R1TmNdIfk0

Oh wait you can’t give a straight forward answer. I’ll answer for you, its option 1. All guilds know it.

TUP looking for GvG 15-20. Got VotF on Tuesday and War Thursday. Available would like you GD! Don’t want to regret passing up opportunity to clash horns with you from ER – doubtful our server will get you anytime soon.

Give me AR and Gandara this week. With Piken and Millers the week after!!

First week I don’t want Piken to roll around – I’m looking forward to seeing VII gvg piken guilds, and really it would get overloaded with GvGs all in one week if it was AG v Piken v xyz.

Still have a chance for GvG tonight. 15-20. Let us know asap.

Will definitely arrange this for Saturday. Doubt our regular streamer will be available but ye looking forward to it. Will pm you ingame b4 Saturday and arrange time.

Had no time tonight was out and came back late – hence didn’t have time to do it correctly and appropriately in a private manner. We’ve both discussed this now in private, all sorted and misunderstandings now corrected.

PunK is correct that they aren’t that kinda guild – hence my initial shock and disappointment not to mention my overreaction. All sorted.

For me it needs a place for history on site. As a GvG is a GvG part of the history of us all.

Still for others it is an apparent issue though with people dodging GvGs, gets frustrating when you go weeks without one.

Appreciate the chat Dark.

Keep doing what your doing PunK – Misunderstanding corrected, outburst squashed.

Had no time tonight was out and came back late – hence didn’t have time to do it correctly and appropriately in a private manner. We’ve both discussed this now in private, all sorted and misunderstandings now corrected.

PunK is correct that they aren’t that kinda guild – hence my initial shock and disappointment not to mention my overreaction. All sorted.

For me it needs a place for history on site. As a GvG is a GvG part of the history of us all.

Still for others it is an apparent issue though with people dodging GvGs, gets frustrating when you go weeks without one.

Appreciate the chat Dark.

I mean the 2 gvgs we had both 5-0 got denied on the site. Denying us our history. While in the same week you added the HoB, Fire etc results but denied ours – Irked me, had massive respect for your guys sense of humour and running alone yet this is a low blow.

@Ogre it’s the principle. In the same week they GvG’d HoB, Fire and others. We also GvG’d to include their results but not ours – “irked” me. That is all. I had massive respect for their sense of humour in WvW (when we kite ambushed them) and just in general they run alone and bring a fight.

Annoyed me that both gvgs were denied.

There is no “history” page. For guilds to show what they’ve done, who they’ve fought if it gets denied by the opponent. That is my concern.

When our gvg guys are available we will fight anyone at the times we are available. Unless its a muck around (like we’ve done with qq/mya combo or “arranged roaming”) i’d like our opponents to add the result. That “over competitive” nature of some guilds, denies others (don’t care about rating) their gvg results.

Nuff said, colour me disappointed is all.

I had much respect for PunK as they were the first guild to want to rematch us (not inc the 2 matches old school/small size with Dius back in Feb).

Perfect example of why it took us awhile to join the ladder. Some take it for other reasons than what it is a place to challenge ourselves and show our fights.

Just had Do you feel Lucky [PunK] from FSP Refuse 2 matches both 5-0 to TUP.

Great welcome I am feeling from some aspects of the community.

If a roaming scrim is arranged or a fun time – like QQ/Mya combo vs tup for lolz or when its uneven numbers, just to kill time – ye that’s not a GvG. But when people ask for GvG then deny the results. One aspect of the scene I feared would rear its head. It was setup, gvg rules, even numbers, arranged gvg yet deny the results…

I guess my first taste of what others have complained about. Kinda sad we can’t be adults here.

Whoa, wtf PunK why you deny our 2 matches with you on the site?

Typical mal ^. Had a guy like you at our GvG last night. Made us delay a round that was about to get underway – he soon left when the enemy guild ran him over. He was exactly the same “F GvGs this is WvW…”

Every single GvG guild does a lot of fighting and killing for their respective servers. So what if they take an hour to themselves. Hell on all but the top tiers they aren’t even making queues on the map – think about it they could be in PVE not helping your precious scores. Instead they are tying up equal numbers of enemies that would otherwise be stopping you taking things? Half the time after or even before a GvG guilds have been raiding for hours or will do afterwards.

Learn some respect. To get respect you gotta earn it. Guilds run round killing, taking objectives, occupying the enemy for hours on end. I know of no guild that does JUST GvG and doesn’t smash stuff in WvW.

Wompage.4586:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Wompage.4586:

Elder Sang.2058:

d. Exception on rule 4c: Every player has to clear the stacks they have gathered on weapons/equipment using sigils (ex. Bloodlust) before entering a GvG. Stacks gained during a previous game of the same GvG can be maintained.

With regards to your 2nd post…
Nobody should be FORCED to GvG. Dodges will happen, but the community has to police itself here. If a guild is known to be dodging many GvG’s, then they look like pricks. No other punishment necessary.
Really, people should take a step away from the leaderboards, and quite frankly, stop giving so much of a kitten. That goes for both sides of the spectrum, people desperate to make it to the top, and those scared to lose rating.

I think I saw someone from VII post saying that they send out 3-4 GvG Requests a week and they ask what guild he is from and the instant he states his guild, he is met with “No” or “Can’t make it” etc. If that happens for a month or essentially there is a boycott against a guild, they’d be dropped or punished. That is completely unfair and I agree with you. You can’t force people to GvG but there does need to be a limit where, if you get the #1 spot, you can’t sit comfortably atop.

If you are “number 1” on whatever ranking system there is, I honestly don’t think you should be allowed to decline ANY request for a fight up to a certain limit per week (1 or 2). If you are Rank 1, you should welcome any chance to prove it and any guild should have the chance to show they can/could beat you.

I get what you’re saying, but lets say MYA, sitting at #2 spot, just start declining GvG’s against any of the guilds in the top 10. No sanctions are needed, because the leaderboards mean absolutely nothing, but the community would regard them in a negative light (no disrespect to MYA, purely using you as an example<3 )
EDIT: I see now TUP have joined gw2gvg, and are now in 2nd place with precisely 1 win, which actually illustrates my point better

The leaderboards are pointless anyway. When you can get to #6 by beating 4 guilds in 10v10 from REALLY low tier servers, the whole thing becomes a farce anyway.

I stress again, there is no need to “punish” guilds, as your spot on the leaderboard means nothing. The top 10 on gw2gvg, are NOT the top10 guilds right now in combat.

Hey now, it should read 9 wins 1 draw 1 defeat. But alas guilds have either disbanded since our GvG (SoE from Gunnars Hold) or haven’t yet accepted the results yet.

Our good mates in Mya were very fast at acknowledging the result. Hence the leap in rating.

Glicko system is flawed yes, but until someone has a better system (as we all can’t just face each other when we like -/shakes fist at matchups) its what we got to deal with.

Only a handful in the community care about that ranking nonsense. For me and my guild its about promoting the GvG community to ANET, showing it is alive and kicking, ultimate goal to get them to make a format for us all.

End of the day its about fun and challenge. Zerg busting is one aspect, testing yourself on just how big a zerg you can handle. The other side, the better side, is fighting against other organised guild groups.

As to the extended list of ideas from the OP. I think it just needs to be agreed between opponents tbh. As for punishments for refusal?? That’s quite a joke. We get refused all the time, while others on our server get GvGs. Each guild plays how they want, maybe they only do GvGs 1/week. Maybe they only do 3/week and get booked quickly. Maybe the GvG guy(s) are on vacation. You can’t force people to GvG, end of the day we all play for fun – some just have a different definition of said fun.

Just all try to be adults and it will flow.

Hey all. Won’t topple the great bald headed one. Sacrx If only the system had some way of applying the rating timebased (as in when matches occurred). Just awaiting all the other results to be confirmed. Shame SoE (from GH) disbanded since though.

Personally looking forward to the potential of an exhaustive week against Piken. Ever since we left in Feb we’ve wanted it. Since June and being more involved in the GvG scene, even more desire to clash horns with old friends

We decided to endorse the community and be a part of the family. We hope to see us GvG’rs flourish and grow. Obviously with the eventual hope of us all, that ANET bring us a format for this (SPVP doesn’t cut it- need wvw gear, specs, consumables). Probably a long shot but a hope none the less.

So here’s to a healthy and fun vibrant future for the GvG community.

Dranul

Shout out to DW for the GvG. Much respect. I know you wanted more but had a few log, hope you enjoyed the experience. Hope to see you again in future match ups.

Regards TUP

We still have a spot on Thursday for a GvG if anyone interested.

Two fold my post. 1) to rekindle my affair with xXx with the question “What is the reason why you don’t GvG?” Serious question.

2) to share a guildies video, from the guy who brought you Rocky Balboa in GW2, now brings you another classic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R1TmNdIfk0

PS o/ Gandara

Thesilentflute.8761:

Ragnar.4257:

@Thesilentflute: zergs attempting (and failing) to run over GvG teams is usually the highlight of an evening :P

20v50 all day right! /rolls eyes

U say 20v50 like it’s a hard thing to do?

First fight…

Trolls will be trolls though.

On topic. Not a fan of tonics. Keep up the good work Ogre.

To our old buds on Piken. Sharing the genius that brought us Rocky in GW2, he now brings us another old classic. Enjoy. o/ all.

Enjoy folks!

Was old fashioned Monday Night Madness with TUP tonight. Peaked at 17 but ran with 12 for the most part in FSP. A variety of things, tonight though was Warrior night – was “interesting” but difficult against the numbers.

Needless to say though with 8 or 9 we carried on into EB and held RoS keep after an awesome ninja off FSP doing the hardwork of killing the lord, bashing doors. We then enjoyed hours of skirmishing with both FSP and RoS, holding the keep for a good 45mins with no supply, no walls, good old fashioned fun. Highlight was preventing DW from taking it and while engaged with them shortly before our demise RoS stealing their attempt at taking it.

Cheers for the fun.

From the guy who brought you rocky in GW2, he brings you another classic. Enjoy folks.

Always looking for more European Guilds/teams to apply http://asuraball.net/
Takes 2 mins to click apply on site. Get your team registered, start arranging matches today!

Open to American interest too – can create a separate topic on site for you guys to share results, videos and arrange matches.

Cheers AoA, Punk, DW, GoT + others for the action tonight on FSP.

Got caught out once or twice against the big force, but generally got some smush going on.

Thanks for the action was fun. Monday Night Madness tomorrow so see you then!

Kind regards TUP

http://www.twitch.tv/quenoztv live match Vs KA from Piken, followed by us Vs GG from piken

Agreed with the above, below a certain point (in the EU bracket) the bottom 7-8 servers should not be matched with xyz places above them.

RoS currently has AG, a rank 22 vs rank 13. They have not enough to keep 1 guild happy on a BL let alone a zone’s worth to entertain with fights.

Surely enough data has been obtained to see what population the servers have. Ah well.

JDGE YARR et al (goes for anyone else), get your butts on my site <3 so people can have ease of cross server friendlies, and once enough join, league and competitions! Mya, GG + KA all registered from Piken, ontop of TEAM + TUP from AG – looking for more.

http://unlikelyasuraball.guildlaunch.com/

Hope UW on their BL give as much grit and determination as they did when we had them. Hope you all have a good week. For TUP it looks like a very very quiet one

Magnetron.5823:

I do not agree with the last person who comments on this, the game mode WvW, is made to fight like who have the most people, and who have the most coverage. Yes it sucks to have less people in you server but it is like USA fights SWEDEN.. USA will win because they have more people.

You will face another server next week, just try to have fun. WvW cannot be balanced.

We farmed them for 90+mins. Its not that we couldn’t live and kill.. But try stopping 100 guys of which over 50% of them, have access to a res (of which they all equipped) and having a keep lord rez over 60+ times is ok with you?

Your missing the point. Waypointing in 100 every 3mins becomes a joke, resetting the cap EACH rez is a joke (it never used too!).

Mechanics stopped us winning the keep, not the 100 players. Skill needs to be rewarded don’t you think?

Or are you a fan of “bring more numbers = win”? WvW is / has turned into Zergball, more and more servers avoid fights and play for WXP.

Not asking for balance, not complaining about blobs or coverage, we fight 20-30 vs whole zone, I don’t care about that. I’m saying the mechanics make it IMPOSSIBLE to take garrison from 100 people – the mechanics (flawed) when combined just make it worse.

Hrist.8972:

DevonCarver.5370:

Using banners to rez is absolutely okay with us. That said, we have looked into and will continue to look into ways to make it a little less zany. But the reality is, you should kill the warriors.

This is what many players don’t realize and just keep hitting/nuking whatever is the closest to them. I advice people to really look at the classes on the field and pick targets they think are extremely beneficial for the enemy. If you are defending a keep in the lord room, don’t chase the ranger, go after a warrior.

It got to the point that it everyone was ressing with abilities. Guardians Healing Signet, Ele’s Signet, Necro Signet, Mesmer utility and ofc Warrior Banner. They ALL equipped rez and threw themselves at us. Over and over again. Nothing against banners, just the mechanics of resetting progression of cap on rez = flawed, combined with every 3m whole zone can WP in… without “zerg play” which Devon seems to endorse – what is 50-60 guys spose to do vs 100 (besides farm them for nearly 90mins). We are players that see flaws with mechanics and even the dev just solely talks about one class and “kill them all” rather than information on whether the progression reset is – working as intended / plans to change? Same for the waypoint every 3mins… Working as intended? / plans to change?

Question is anet a fan of Zergplay? From WXP to everything else, it seems you are.

DevonCarver.5370:

Using banners to rez is absolutely okay with us. That said, we have looked into and will continue to look into ways to make it a little less zany. But the reality is, you should kill the warriors.

So fighting almost double your number, garrison is a big place – your meant to stop them ALL getting close, when every THREE minutes they can ALL waypoint into keep (flawed system) AND everytime they banner rez/signet rez/utility rez the PROGRESSION OF THE CAP RESETS <<<< THAT IS THE PROBLEM. 60+ lord rezzes in over an hour, not complaining about the constant action but the mechanics is flawed. It never used to reset progression.

Keeping a whole zone out of a circle is hard enough when out numbered almost 2-1, but then having the cap reset EACH and EVERY time the lord is rezzed from upto 1200ft away btw…

Your comments are just like “bring more people, zerg up, kill them all before they get within 1200ft range of the lord”. So please let me know if you are endorsing Zerg play?

How bout commenting on the actual mechanics. The reseting of the progression circle is just plain wrong – it never used to do that!

Ps: its not so much about warriors btw over 4 classes can rez lord from upto 1200ft range.

Poor reset, bored with lack of action. Within 3hrs of reset it was evident that after wipes the enemy wasn’t coming back

Turned 2 maps green with others and had to call it, was absolutely nothing around todo. Shame as reset is usually intense for 4-5hrs.

Hope it improves through the matchup. Good luck to all

Ross you don’t know the game very well boyo. Stability doesn’t impact the ability to Immob someone or not.

There are many things that are condition removals OP, and many things that reduce duration, food, runes, traits. On top of traits that remove xyz on use. Groups will have a good amount of condition removal.

Disappointed GvG was cancelled. Went EB for a big change, typically don’t raid on Thursdays. Was interesting, plenty of farm to be had. Enjoyed working with Quackers.

Shame though that the enemy decided to avoid us, PVD and waypoint around a lot. Felt like Deja vu about 5 or 6 times. Otherwise good smush.

Cheers enemy for keeping my guys for the most part entertained on what would of otherwise been a disappointing evening (with the lack of GvG).

Not a really fair comment Dark even in the goal of your roaming, it’s in layman terms to outlive your enemy/make your enemy die before you do.

There is skill in group vs group or group vs huge zerg. Mistakes lead to defeats. Teamwork is vital – you’ve seen us win and lose vs them zergs. I wouldn’t call it skill less. The co-ordination and team work required when outnumbered is paramount to success. Especially when most – if not all zergs these days are either community driven or led by guilds themselves, most are on comms – just like a guild.

In an ideal world yes there (for me) would be more guild groups, rather than guilds leading zergs – just strikes me as lazy and cowardly.

If it wasn’t a challenge a guild of 20-30 would repeatedly destroy the “entire” zone zergs, some servers bring. It’s still a challenge, communication, teamwork, trying different things.

As for “random aoe” some of these TS led zergs drop aoe organised and a lot of it, considering their numbers.

Long boring post too – I believe a lot lack skill, but I don’t believe in general WvW lacks a skill factor.

Just had to defend WvW guilds, that make it their goal to fight others <3

As only a part time roamer late at night, I do understand a fair amount of your points though.

They had it in gw1 sure smaller scale. Give us guild hall battles. 15-20-25
Job done.