Guild Wars 2

Hello Caljay

I’m truly sorry to hear that. I hope that the issue will be resolved soon as this will drive civil minded wvwers out of the server. You are right, it’s a game at the end of the day.

FW

caljay.8720:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello, might I offer a suggestion.

This is what we practice in sor. If there’s a commander already on map, the 2nd commander will whisper the 1st if they need assist in protecting the back lines. If it’s ok the 2nd commander will usually ask for 10 pax to help run back line defense. This is more orderly and more organized. And helps rally the pugs faster as some will follow the 2nd Commander if they like small team action.

This works well as the 2nd commander shows respect to the 1st commander on scene. (unless the 1st commander is a troll)

FW

The only problem with doing something like this on dragonbrand is that there isnt any respect shown between certain commanders, constant arguing and flaming of each other, especially in eternal and late NA. The bickering over who is commanding and who trolled who and who was a kitten the other day gets old real fast. I find the best way to avoid it all is to avoid ebg, and avoid places where certain commanders are. I only go to ebg now if i am following a guild group, or solo roaming.

“As for DB commanders fighting.. It’s just irritating to see kids fighting (name calling, “my tag was here first”, etc) about a stupid game. That’s life, sure. But we get home to just relax, we don’t even care WHO is commander. We just follow the blue dot :P Get over yourselves… ^^ <3”
This sums up about 95% of db’s players base s opinion

Hello, might I offer a suggestion.

This is what we practice in sor. If there’s a commander already on map, the 2nd commander will whisper the 1st if they need assist in protecting the back lines. If it’s ok the 2nd commander will usually ask for 10 pax to help run back line defense. This is more orderly and more organized. And helps rally the pugs faster as some will follow the 2nd Commander if they like small team action.

This works well as the 2nd commander shows respect to the 1st commander on scene. (unless the 1st commander is a troll)

FW

Hello Chaba,

While it’s true people come and go, companies usually have a system to review and scrutinize suggestions and criticism by clients and customers beyond the customer rep. Meaning that valuable feedback doesn’t go wasted in case they leave.

One would assume the same thing for Anet, one of the most influential MMO company in the industry.

FW

Chaba.5410:

Geesh lighten up. It’s normal for people to come and go in a company.

Hello Afrowizard,

I think you got slammed because you asked people to subscribe to your channel. That would imply that people watch your videos to be entertained (like mouthbreather) or pick up some tips to improve because your skills are better than the the average player. Unfortunately the video doesn’t offer either. That was the issue at hand. Whether the posters are more skillful or less is irrelevant to the slamming.

Do put in better work and I’m sure the community will be supportive.

FW

Afrowizard.1062:

Lol wow this escalated fast. Yes this clearly wasn’t the best gameplay ever and I haven’t been on form since I just finished my exams but I just wanted to learn some basic editting/rendering which is why it isn’t raw.

Also it’s incredibly hypocritical from these posters assuming you’ve never had a bad day. If you posted something constructive maybe i’d take you semi seriously.

Much love, Afro.

Hello Earl

That adds up to 80 skill points. Could you correct it? Would love to see your idea.

FW

EARL.8312:

Paladin Healway

Full Power Precision Healing Power Ascended

0/0/30/30/20

Necessary traits

Hello Deli

I spent a week+ in t2. The drop in WvW numbers is dramatic outside of t1. Even if all of the wvw guilds in FA, Sor, Tc went into 1 server there’s no chance to compete against BG.

FW

Deli.1302:

Q: Why are SoR guilds moving to JQ instead of strengthening a T2 server and bringing them up? NA is gonna end up having two Tier 1 servers with a rotating set of T2 servers getting blown out and having BG win by default no matter what. T1 is fun/balanced when there are three T1 servers, after all.

Hello Snacktime,

I have to agree with you to a large extent. We all find our ways to have fun by defining our idea of winning in a game. That said the pve guys are probably laughing at us because they are winning at getting more loot and gold.

Btw, with regards to BG being outmanned, it’s only temporary, the main wvw guilds are prepping for season 2 that’s going to be starting in the next few weeks. So the low ppt in NA and SEA are not good indicators of numbers. BG leadership is making sure all timezones are rested, covered and ready for the pushes.

FW

snacktime.1082:

Reverence.6915:

jojojoon.8607:

Reverence.6915:

Yup, this is correct for any map that the float team isn’t on besides EBG. We usually have 2/4 maps outmanned during Oceanic. I’ll see if I can’t take screenshots tomorrow.

Here we go again with claims that BG is outnumbered in OCX. It’s been explained numerous times on this thread, so at this point, I am assuming you’re pretending to not understand it. There is a reason why people are poking fun at posts that like these that keep saying BG is outnumbered in multiple time zones.

If a map can hold 80 players and BG is able to queue or come close to queing at least 2 maps, it means they have around 160 players covering OCX. They can have one 80-man group defending while the other 80-man group float to different maps to cap things.

SOR, in OCX, typically queues 1 map. They have just 1 float group doing both defending and capping. This means that SOR is typically outnumbered by at least 2 times in OCX.

JQ typically is able to fill up 1 map and have around 15-25 on another map. In other words, BG typically outnumbers JQ by around 40-60 during OCX.

So, please stop claiming BG is outnumbered when BG has 1 or 2 maps that are outmanned during off peak hours when other servers have even less people and more maps outmanned. It makes it even ridiculous if you check the score history for the past 2 months in OCX when BG typically ticks over 300 pts and sometimes almost 400 pts in OCX. A server is not outnumbered in a timezone with those types of scores.

I can tell you why this is the case.

SoR going around early oceanic today with 50-60 man float team first led by Choo, then a mix zerg (led by HIRE?). JQ didn’t really have a presence outside of EBG, but they had around 20-30 in their zerg outside of EBG at best (probably less, first was Pro, then XPK). Our float team was 20-25 people led by OnS. We had 10-15 people on other maps to cap/defend. Any map we would leave would basically get outmanned immediately. Especially after our NA guilds KnT and iCoa tagged down around 1am server time.

Not our fault you don’t break up your zerg. We split up our forces to cap more structures in more maps, resulting in higher PPT. We also really don’t care about EBG, only coming onto the map when our side of the map is getting pushed, floating off almost straight away. I see JQ and SoR numbers in EBG that could form 2-3 float teams to cap other maps. But hey, who am I to tell you how to play. We have fun with our smaller forces regardless.

I’m actually getting tired of the habit Sor has gotten into of just having one large float team. We have become very efficient at it. Even though it’s comprised of a mix of guilds/militia, it operates like a 50 man guild group because we run it so often. Most of these people are from organized guilds also, and almost all are on TS. BG and JQ just don’t have an equivalent single force like this. And it’s not that they couldn’t, they just don’t due to a variety of reasons already stated.

Personally I would prefer to see us split up more, have more small scale fights that are actually challenging and fun, and then combine when we really need to.

Truth is that we do this on Sor for the same reason a lot of people move to BG. People like to win. Those on BG get to win via ppt. Sor has no chance of winning ppt, but found out that having the largest organized force allowed them to win a lot of fights.

I’ve played on both BG and Sor. Both servers think they are ‘winning’. On BG they put down Sor because of how dumb they are at handling PPT. And on Sor they put down BG for how bad they are at fighting. It’s quite comical to listen to these people.

I would have to concur with Jojojoon. Being outmanned in maps but winning at the end of a week with >20% is a population issue.

Even if a server is outmanned on 1-2 maps and running >290PPT for a sustained period it means the other servers have very much less numbers. It also means that the high ppt server is likely running big numbers on other maps.

FW

jojojoon.8607:

A server is not outnumbered in a timezone with those types of scores.

Snacktime,

I left SOR precisely because of that.

Some commanders were yelling at pugs and berating them. TS channels were locked by guilds wanting to do their own thing. End of the day, we are gamers and we are just pixels, no need to be rude.

I just came back 2 days earlier after I was told that those commanders left SOR and guild channels were unlocked.

I am hopeful that things will continue to improve.

FW

snacktime.1082:

Sor is rebuilding and I think we have a chance to stay in T1 for a while as we lost a lot of our bad apples that drove new people out of wvw. We had commanders in mapchat saying things like “bad = don’t play”. We still have issues such as people constantly denigrating others for playing uplevels, etc.. Good commanders realize the game is supposed to be fun, and adapt accordingly and still win fights.

A lot of the bad attitudes stem from not winning PPT in so long. People start to look for alternative ways to ‘win’. The result was a turn toward hardcore play with only the most serious players being welcome. That wins fights, but it doesn’t result in a healthy community, you need to support all styles of play without denigrating those that choose to play differently.

Being a good commander on field is not enough, you need to be a good leader. The former can win battles, but it takes the latter to win the war.

I spent about a week+ in TC (one of the best wvw community btw, absolutely civil and smart commanders like Jadon/NOPE & Nite/ZZZZ) and noted T2 pops. I am back in T1. There’s increased attrition on some nights on both T1 and T2 now. Look at JQ and SOR PPT at NA Prime, <200PPT. Attrition has dramatically increased in the last week.

FW

Hello,

AehAZE.1867 wrote the original post. He has since deleted it due to advice from his realm mates.

FW

albotelho.2931:

Sanduskel.1850:

lol art though vexxed? it’s ok buy more guilds

Troll master ^

But if truth, what guild did we bought to SoR? When are they coming? I gave no money

Hello Morrolan,

The server that FEAR went to is FA, which is gathering momentum and making a strong concerted push for T1. FEAR & Retribution will fight the same JQ and BG forces soon if data/rate does not change.

FW

morrolan.9608:

Mirsa.1628:

So out of four recent departures, only one of them was truly a “loss” to SoR. Even so, one of the reasons why RET left to T2 was because they were bored of fighting BG and JQ blobs and wanted better competition from guilds on servers like SoS and Mag.

That was at least one of the reasons Fear left as well apparently.

Hello Duke,

From what I know from my friends in your server, BG is still recruiting and has had several small guilds transfer over for WvW in the last 7 days. BG has the widest and deepest coverage now vs JQ and the PPT scores show.

I am not complimenting nor condemning BG, just making known some facts.

Also, besides ZDs in league, BG has outsmarted JQ and SOR by recruiting dozens of small PVX guilds (vs big WvW ones favored by other servers) to ensure a >80% chance of winning in league and after season. Those guilds are still in BG.

Chocpudding has done a tremendous job in the recruitment drive. Kudos.

FW

Duke Blackrose.4981:

As a Blackgate player, I personally loathe our WvW scene for 4 reasons:

1. It seems like we win way too often. I’ve seen high-tier opposing servers just give up. It takes the fun and the challenge out of things.

2. Everything boils down to massive zergs. “It’s the BG ocean vs. the SoR ocean. Again.”

3. We generally get the same opponents. If we’re lucky, we’ll get one or two different opponents once in a blue moon. But even then, it’s all from the same small rotation.

And, of course….

4. We have to wait on massive queue timers just to experience WvW at all. The EB generally has a 2 hour minimum queue and battlegrounds often have 10min+ queue times.

And WvW Season 1, with it’s over-hyped server-performance based rewards is partially to blame for all of that.

The only thing holding me back from a server swap (to a more average server) is my excellent Blackgate guild.

Hello Sin,

It’s not implemented because there are folks from one region who can only play on another time zone (night shift folks etc). Some players don’t have luxury of choice vs those in schools or on normal hours. Anet (and 100% MMO companies) knew it would be unwise to exclude them other than for sake of regional rights (like GW2 China).

FW

Sin.4130:

Just let players from same (nearest) time – zones play together 24/7. It is so simple that I can’t understand why it is not implemented yet.

Hello Xenesis,

Tbh, it’s strange that the committee hasn’t got information about this. Drop me a PM? I’ll look into this personally. Thanks!

FW

Xenesis.6389:

It was nothing in regards to R18, racist, or sexist, I haven’t heard anything like that in TS. It was more like a rage banning, not sure if it was a commander, he came from another BL channel to scream at EB group of like 20+ people to come and save hills in another BL, when someone said to calm down he banned them, and this was someone doing the gruntwork like scouting and building siege etc.

Hello Xenesis

Thanks for your feedback. Do let me know if there’s anything information you need. Personally I’m ok on ts with most R18 unless it’s overly sexist or racist then I will issue warnings. Community > All.

FW

Xenesis.6389:

Some good commanders on here, the militia is disciplined enough when on team speak, even though two people got banned yesterday for telling someone to calm down…

Hello Jojooon,

No worries, thank you for your query. SOR is still the smallest T1 server. As I have stated the numbers are approximate.

The numbers fielded by JQ now fluctuates in SEA time with JQ and SEA PVX/WvW doing raids on different/overlapping days, hence the close PPT last week. BG was equally focusing on both SOR and JQ.

Do note that MOS data will give you the most accurate information.

FW

jojojoon.8607:

Not really to start trouble, but doesn’t the stats show that SOR is not the smallest T1 server? SOR leads in 1 time zone, meaning they are able to field the most wvw guilds/players in that time zone. From the stats, it looks like JQ is the smallest T1 server since they only tie BG in their best time zone (SEA). BG has the best coverage of all T1 servers dominating (over 50%) in multiple time zones (OCX and EU).

[Edited for accuracy: I was informed that some of my data was in error]

Hello Lindbur,

Welcome to SOR and thank you for the the vote of confidence. We look forward to working alongside with TOFU for strategic and tactical map coordination. Feel free to drop a message to the timezone coordinators listed here if you have any queries.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/SOR-T1-FIGHTS-FOCUSED-24-7-COMMUNITY/

FW

We are still looking for hardcore wvwers who want to excel and play in a wvw focused guild. Here is one of our recent videos.

Hello, I think the OP and you are on BG.

FW

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Raven.9603:

the last thing you should ever do for hackers is stroke their tiny kittens to erection with “open letters” acknowledging them.

Yeah, I just want to DDoS them even harder now. I mean… What, nothing, look over there!

Hello,

I am sorry to hear that. SOR’s TS and backup have been DDOSed on/off for the longest time. Oh well, we just to deal with it.

FW

omniomi.7351:

I won’t name matchups or servers but you know who you are. Our TS3 server is currently experiencing 14000% more traffic than the monthly average. Any server wide TeamSpeak server in this game is going to be on a VPS or a similar setup. Your attack is affecting other customers in our shared data centre.

I implore you to stop, you’re not just hurting us you’re hurting people who have nothing to do with GuildWars 2.

If you think that DDoSing a TS3 server over a WvW matchup is the way to accomplish your goals please know it is affecting more than just your competition.

Please… This isn’t about our TS3, this is bigger than that.

Hi. Where was your ac? And did the tower door have a little hole above it? If so the ac shooter can fire through that hole if he’s next to the door.

FW

Hello all, last round for the year. Have a great new year everyone. And here’s to the last round we have in GW2 matchup section.

FW

Hello guys.

I got the reason for the thread deletion. Moderator PMed.

“A moderator moved a message you posted to the forum ‘Trashcan’ with the reason:
Removed the thread “12/20/2013 ~ BG ~ JQ ~ SoR v3” for discussions of Moderation.”

FW

Hello Auntie,

Unfortunately, Jaxs is right as this happens through all the tiers, even in T1. It would be better just to check out MOS PPT in your own timezone to find the best fights. Eg, the most powerful competitive oceanic force now is BG, so we’ve had oceanic folks transfer to fight them.

FW

Jaxs.5830:

Auntie.7864:

I would enjoy playing WvW if we were grouped against servers closer to the SoS skill level. I’ve played for kicks and mostly feel kicked-around. Looking up WvW builds help, but competition with others closer in the SoS skill level is a big help, too.
Any thoughts?

This game is not about skill, it is about coverage and population.SoS’s ranking reflects an off-hour coverage that is higher than servers below them, but not as much as those above them. Isn’t it fun?

Hello all,

SOR has received queries with regards to our rebuilding and what is our focus for the next year.

We are on track at 89.35% completed with rebuilding and prepping for 2014. Do note that our rebuilding process is focusing on communications infrastructure, community relations and joint arms exercise. Numbers is not the key, coordination and militia training is key.

We will be moving into the new year with the resolution to keep our community fights and not PPT focused.

FW

Hi all, I think Guru could be a better fit. Quite a few of us were there before coming over to this forum. It’s a pretty good site still.

Here’s to the 2nd last match up thread.

Happy Christmas everyone, may your bags be ever overflowing.

FW

Hi,

It works better on a strategic level if the server has a smaller presence. Locking down home BL with waypointed keeps makes for easier defense per manpower expense.

FW

SFShinigami.2015:

Serious question for everyone before I go to bread. Does it seem like the dynamics have shifted a bit? Whereas before people would try to constantly hold their north + their corners of enemy BL, now it seems more like everyone locks down their home BL instead.

OMG GO TO BREAD CUDDLES

Thanks man, but the exSBIers really can’t. Sorry bud. On the other you guys are welcome to pop over to T1 if you have another account on hand.

Jyeoi.6027:

You guys continue to inspire me with your determination and good leadership. Make a dual account on SBI. XP

Hello Seigfried,

Noted, and thank you. Btw, just for clarification I am not a community leader, I only help facilitate liaison work for the community. The list of SOR WvW community leaders are as follows (in alphabetical order, and there are a few more). These are the people that keep the SOR WvW community going.

Ace, Aurust Hero of SOR, CJK, Eetal, Evangerion, Fatality, GA, Indo, Lucas, Nyx, Rai, Scypy, Seventh, Snow, Squirrel, Summoners Rift, Tytos.

Seigfried.5938:

Fuzzion.2504:

Fannwong.3059:

Hi all

I’ve played OCX/SEA.

All 3 servers bring the 40-60 mans at those times.

All 3 have 10-20 mans guild untagged.

All have great 5-10mans.

And sometimes each group type meets the wrong group.

It’s a part of T1 wvw meta. Nothing we say or do will change it.

FW

fannywong, join your fellow countrymen and join JQ

Lol asking commanders to join your server? not only a commander, but a community leader who is in the process of rebuilding the server. I didn’t think you could stoop any lower after going into recruitment threads and trolling. Fannwong, don’t even bother replying next time to the obvious troll.

Hello Fuzz,

Thanks for the invite.

I heard that there are quite a few SG folks in JQ and there’s a good community in JQ (and BG) but when I feel frustrated I weigh all the good times and bad times, I realized that the folks I play with on SOR have become friends, friends that I would gladly go to the next wvw game with.

The NA, Ozzie/NZ, SG, Korean, HK, Taiwan and many more folks that populate the TS every night, they make SOR fun. Even Scypy.

FW

Fuzzion.2504:

Fannwong.3059:

Hi all

I’ve played OCX/SEA.

All 3 servers bring the 40-60 mans at those times.

All 3 have 10-20 mans guild untagged.

All have great 5-10mans.

And sometimes each group type meets the wrong group.

It’s a part of T1 wvw meta. Nothing we say or do will change it.

FW

fannywong, join your fellow countrymen and join JQ

Hello Sari,

My apologies.

FW

Sari.1247:

Fannwong.3059:

Hi all

I’ve played OCX/SEA.

All 3 server bring the 40-60 mans at those times.

All 3 have 10-20 man guild untagged.

All have great 5-10mans.

And sometimes each group type meets the wrong group.

It’s a part of T1 wvw meta. Nothing we say or do will change it.

FW

Your sound reasoning has no place here

Hi all

I’ve played OCX/SEA.

All 3 servers bring the 40-60 mans at those times.

All 3 have 10-20 mans guild untagged.

All have great 5-10mans.

And sometimes each group type meets the wrong group.

It’s a part of T1 wvw meta. Nothing we say or do will change it.

FW

Hello Nuked,

I have friends on various servers giving me information and on that day I posted, I had received news that Waha had posted on the chinese forums. Rusalka (English speaking ATM) had promised to get back to me after clarifying but she never did. My different point of does not count as trolling, it’s just a different point of view based on the information I received and analyzed.

I really meant what I said about it being a sad day. For better or for worse, Waha in JQ provided some of the best fights for SEA in T1. Competition was intense in that time period and we had tonnes of fun. SEA folks from other servers actually transferred to BG and SOR just to fight him.

With Waha leaving, T1 is destabilized and already we are feeling his loss (MOS data). For the new wvwers who have joined us in the last 3 months, Waha was one of the key reason why JQ was #1 for a long time, JQ SEA literally offset the weak OCX and EU PPT. What’s even more critical is that we have people leaving the game because Waha left, that is a sad day for ALL the wvw gamers in GW2, I am even more concerned about that because it leaves ALL of us poorer in experience and fun.

I sincerely hope that JQ leadership can consolidate. I was server mates with Jed and SF in SBI and I am full well aware of his fortitude and tenacity. I know JQ can do it because of the experienced DAOC vets and militia on the server.

FW

Nuked.2360:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello,

I’m happy to report that we have had some IRON folks return to SOR after their sojourn in Gunners Hold (like DiE). But as a whole SOR does not encourage forum trolling as it is not part of our culture.

FW

Tajz.9826:

I’m sad. The Anet forum used to give me something to read while working. Bring back IRON and their forum warriors plz kthzbai.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello guys,

I’m a little late, I just heard about Waha leaving GW2. It’s a sad day.

Here’s to the enemy we loved to fight, the boogeyman who inspired the SEA and NA troops in SOR.

We will miss the amazing fights.

We will miss the big bald Norn.

/salute

FW

Then what is the following quote? Looks Trollish to me. I could have kept pulling your posts but it got sort of boring just wanted to leave that one here after you claim you don’t troll. Have a nice day.

Hello,

I’m happy to report that we have had some IRON folks return to SOR after their sojourn in Gunners Hold (like DiE). But as a whole SOR does not encourage forum trolling as it is not part of our culture.

FW

Tajz.9826:

I’m sad. The Anet forum used to give me something to read while working. Bring back IRON and their forum warriors plz kthzbai.

Hello Devinebeing,

I believe the SOR folks are not offended. JQ still have formidable forces in NA, OCX and of course the largest SEA force of any EU or NA server

FW

DivineBeing.2086:

CrimsonProject.7980:

Just my attempt to read PPT shenanigans (which is not my forte by any means). BG knows that after the weekend is over, SoR won’t be able to maintain its current pace, as a result BG is more inclined to hit JQ and play the map since JQ might be able to overtake them while SoR won’t even with the slight lead we have over JQ right now.

This pretty much.

No offense SoR, but JQ is much more of a threat.

Hello Reverence,

Don’t fret about the the PPT. Your War Council is resilient and will be able to pull through this time again and consolidate.

FW

Reverence.6915:

Don’t think BG will win this week honestly. We’ll see though.

I’ve noticed coverage across our 3 servers have dropped pretty significantly the past week compared to leagues. BG’s Oceanic got hit especially hard (dat 90 PPT!).

Well, see you guys on the battlefield

Fuzzion.2504:

Guys MoS isnt updating im in theoffice can someone tell me if its MOS or Anet

Use gw2score.com :P

SOR rebuilding phase is going well. The militia are getting trained and we have new and up & coming commanders who are trained by older experienced commanders. Everybody will have a chance to shine and share the glory of grand fights.

FW

Hello Peetee,

Thanks for the reminder.

As some of you might know, SOR is currently suspending karma trains on Fridays for the foreseeable future. Most of the wvw commanders are in agreement that the new batch of Rallian militia need hardcore training. We do sincerely apologize to BG and JQ wvwers.

FW

Peetee.9406:

Cynz.9437:

Oghier.7419:

Cynz.9437:

i have 6 ascended weapons + legendary on my thief, i could have had 3-4 ascended armor pieces (if i didn’t sell mats for gold) right now, most of that was made doing WvW

Six ascended weapons = 3,000 dragonite. Keep Lords give 3 to 5 each. The SM lord drops more, but you can only take that so often. You’ve knocked off nearly 1,000 keeps?

I’m leaving the legendary and the armor out of the equation.

i did join wboss train after server reset for hour or so, hence why i said most of it was from wvw; besides you can get only so much dragonite per day from pve, 2 weapons were drops doh

run karma train, you will get plenty of mats

my point still stands, i don’t think that wvw rewards are that bad; you still have relative good chance for rare drops like precursor/ascended not to mention all the bags/t5/t6 mats, items you can salvage etc.; idk how OP or you do wvw, i know for fact my bags are always full when i run with the guild or karma train

be happy it is not as bad as in pvp, where you didn’t get anything nor could make any money from it

Karma train is not WvW, karma train is PvE, karma train needs to go away.

Hello Lindbur,

If your guild is keen about fights vs PPT and having fun in a 24/7 community SOR could be the place for you. Our numbers in the field have always been constant, we are the smallest T1 server but we will never bow to oppression and domination to bigger forces.

Drop me or Lord Green Arrow a message to find out more. Thanks SpehssMehreen for the headsup! Also, if your guild needs guidance or training holding/fighting bigger forces, we have experienced commanders willing to offer a helping hand.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/Sanctum-of-Rall-FIGHTS-FOCUSED-T1-NA-SERVER/

FW

Hello Scoot,

I totally agree with you, judging from the general absence of a lot of folks from all 3 servers, I would have to add that the leagues actually accelerated attrition rates due to the massive overtime put in by a lot of folks. The drop in numbers can be felt across all time zones. Coupled with XBOX One/PS4 and the holidays, I am not surprised (and saddened) that the numbers are such. Although GW2 is another blip in a long list of games, I do hope that it will it be a long blip.

Have a great Christmas everyone, may your bags be always full.

FW

scootshoot.6583:

DivineBeing.2086:

Fuzzion.2504:

ESO beta so less folks on.

There seems to be less folks ALL around honestly.

Friday, reset night right? I, a BG player, was able to port to any BL freely without even a queue.

That says A LOT.

Doesn’t say a whole lot aside from peeps being burnt out from leagues thus taking a break ingame doing other chores like pve Holiday content, leveling alts, crafts etc. and or playing with their shiny new XboxOne or PS4 console.

Hello Jeydra,

I see what you mean. It was 20-30 in TS. It was a good night, only a small handful, probably about 5+ who weren’t. No siege backup. So it was a really smaller group. However, I don’t have hard evidence so I don’t expect you to believe me.

It’s possible to hit and demolish groups bigger than yours. I have done it to ZDs, FB, ND with smaller numbers. I was exWM, learned from Jang. He’s one of the commanders I’ve been lead by and what he can do with militia is amazing, fighting even bigger numbers and wiping/driving off the enemy. I have also trained various groups to do the same. One in particular is TE from SBI. In a SBI v SOR match, in training session I led the same SBI group to wipe SOR guild groups also. It took a really long time to learn from Jang, Indo, Pryan & Ace but it’s been a great ride.

I strongly believe if militia is given enough training, they can do amazing things.

FW

Jeydra.4386:

Kai’s idea is to get all the friendly militia killed, and then kill the enemy group. That’s not the same as what you describe. You can kill a 50-60+ man group with 20-30 people on TS plus friendly militia, yes (also if you had ~30 militia in addition to the people on TS, you’d be at equal numbers, and you can’t claim you won an outnumbered fight). You can’t kill that same 50-60+ man group with 20-30 people on TS and nobody else, at least not without something like heavy siege backup.

I don’t know what goes on in SoR’s TS, but if it’s anything like BG’s, it’s perfectly possible to play well without it.

Hello Jeydra,

Actually I’ve seen that happen before. When organized guild groups go into a ball formation, we’ve fought out numbered but have folks dropping and dodging out of the way, then bombing a 50-60+ man guild group, killing about 70% of them and forcing them to back off our tower.

We had about 20-30+ guys on TS during that time. I remember it was during league. Was massive fun because the enemy guild was known to be formidable. Would not have been possible without some massive coordination in TS using the cloud formation.

Best thing is that we were just pugs/militia/rallians.

However, I do understand that some folks don’t want to get on TS because family/friends are in the background and they don’t use headsets. No worries, that’s all part and parcel of a game. It’s not real life. As we often repeat, if we die in game we won’t die in real life.

FW

Jeydra.4386:

Kai.9182:

Jeydra.4386:

Kai.9182:

dadada.1306:

Kai.9182:

Always gonna have rallybots follow the big blue dorito just feint push chokes and get them killed.

And you’ll become known as the commander who’s always getting people who follow him killed. I like it… weeds out the lame commanders.

Well the ones in teamspeak don’t die and you become the hilarious commander. kapeesh rallybot?

You’ll quickly become known as a troll and people will simply refuse to follow you. After that you’ll be like “guys I need everyone on me” and “if you’re not on the commander you’re doing it wrong” and “omg why do we have so many PVERS who don’t know how to follow commander on this server?!” and then ragebuy 1800 gems to transfer elsewhere.

Or you wipe them after with the group in teamspeak and not be bad.

Yeah, wipe an 80-man zerg with a 40-man TS-coordinated group, I’ve yet to see that happen.

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FW

Hello Andy,

IMHO all 3 T1 servers have fun fights. AFAIK, all 3 T1 have healthy communities and commanders. BG is currently dominating about 25-35.34% of the time. Wintersday changed it slightly. It really depends on the timezone you are playing in. Check the MOS, best for checking your timezone coverage. Anything more than 270+ PPT =coverage issues for one of the servers at that timezone.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/33/

That said TC and FA are really great fighters except for some off NA Prime coverage.

FW

andytango.2950:

And in your collective T1 opinions, which server had more fun fights?

Hello Zikory,

Thanks!

SOR is currently on a rebuilding phase and I am glad to say that it’s looking good. DiE has folks coming back from EBay because the queues are better now. Some IRON folks are heading back to SOR also after their stay in GH. We are looking to build a 24/7 community that’s out for fights 1st and ppt 2nd.

We also have new folks from other servers joining us in late NA, OCX and SEA. We still have a gap in EU time.

FW

Zikory.6871:

Jeydra.4386:

My opinion -

I second what Jeydra says though I semi disagree with the note on SoR. (and have no comment on T2 servers)

From what I can tell it looks like most of SoR’s “internal issues” are more or less resolved and they are currently rebuilding. I would suggest looking at there recruitment post in the recruitment sub forum. They have great leaders and some really awesome guilds. While they aren’t the strongest and you won’t be winning (the match) in T1 for a while, they are still a viable server for anyone looking for a new home. Also as any server in a rebuilding phase, they will probably welcome any new interested experienced players to there ranks.

From the looks of your post it seems you already had Blackgate in mind and are looking for someone to sell you a different server as a option. Since I’m from Blackgate I can’t really sell you another server but I wouldn’t rule them out as a possible new home.

Also keep in mind this week is a bad week to get impressions of a server in WvW. Most people are taking a “break” from competitive WvW and with the patch every one is throwing snow balls and farm pink gear.

Hi guys,

I have had quite a folks messaging in Asian Prime about BG’s absence so I thought I’d do a PSA. Apologies to the people if this is off topic:

1. BG SEA is fine even though BG garrison and EB keep was taken. New PVE content and it’s really quite good. Same thing happened last year SBI/JQ time. So the Rallians are keeping it cautious for the next few days and not presuming anything.

2. BG pushed out at 12am (GMT+8) capturing SOR garrison and pushing BG back to high PPT.

3. Epic fight at JQ BAY with Tarkus (?), Omegas and the massive JQ army. Awesome awesome fun.

4. Was great to see Waha on at 12am at JQ. We were really happy. /notroll.

FW

Hello Peetee,

No worries, thanks for taking the time to explain.

I play predominantly on Asian time. I also trained with NYS in February along with the SOR militia. So I am intimate with late OCE, Asian and early EU timings, commanders, BG and JQ forces, movements and other information.

I was from WM and Kaineng so I was watching that period intently. WM and Kaineng miltia went to BG and they fought against NYS/SAHP. However within 2 weeks they switched to EU time, which NYS/SAHP couldn’t catch up with because they had to log at 11-12am GMT+8. We were surprised as WM as an Asian guild.

WM then dominated EU timing for 2-3 weeks after that. With regards to why WM moved to EU timing, I don’t have the reason so I won’t speculate.

Magikarp at the same time also confirmed with me that WM worked overtime in EU timings. (12am-5am GMT+8). I hope this has clarified things for you.

FW

Peetee.9406:

Fannwong,

I’m sorry but I agree with BG’s perspective in regards to the euro transfers.

OCE and SEA are in a completely different boat. They don’t have a region of their own to play on so they choose to come to T1 NA. FoO/ATM and WM aren’t here to do PvDoor, they want to fight. It’s unfortunate that very few people(NYS/SAHP/ND) will stand up to fight them . You can’t hold them responsible because their enemy won’t show up.

Hello Reslinal,

Reslinal.2359:

SoR seems to view BG (correct me if wrong) as a big disorganized server with tons of fairweathers versus theirs being a tight knit community that is more hardcore.

Unfortunately, that is not how SOR views BG. We know BG has a good community much like SOR because of the folks who went there and came back. We also know that BG militia will scout and defend objectives. SOR and the rest of the tiers knows that BG is pretty well organized, much like how SOS was in T1.

FW