Guild Wars 2

Hello Gebrechen,

FYI, I am happy for JQ that you have got coverage now, it’s great for competition. A few points that I’ve observed so far in the match:

1. There’s a guild on SOR called [TW] that isn’t Tempest Wolves, I’ve seen those tags before.

2. I am Singaporean [TW] based in Asia time zone and I am conducting training in some BLs, we have about 2-3 guys on max.

3. GGYY fielded about 20-30 when they 1st came to T1, now they field approx 10-15.

4. ATM/Foo/FB/Waha brings a substantial to of SOR BL while maintaining a presence in JQ BL and EB. Note the PPT evolution for the last few days in Asian time, esp late into the night, all 3 servers have agreed that high PPT is a sign of coverage, not directly linked superior tactics/strategy. Do take a look at PPT evolution if you can, it’s quite informative. Also, come to Asian time to see how Waha runs the JQ SEA because for months this is where JQ won T1.

5. BG has lost [CA] (please confirm) along with [MEOW] & [TKG], all great guilds that could make a difference in one BL. BG PPT has dropped <150PPT now during Asian time. BG has coverage issues likely at this time but I hear/read that BG is hoping to get more coverage (please confirm).

FW

gebrechen.5643:

Avenge.1478:

Im not so sure about that anymore. Your SEA is massive, you now have a big EU, and your NA has big kitten NS/Agg/SF/HzH/SG/etc zergs.

Youre on par if not bigger now.

What? Big EU? How many have GD brought? 50? Our OCX and late NA should be not much more than 15-20. Yes, our Asian force is huge and I think larger than SoR’s but not much larger than those BG forces.
NA shouldn’t be much difference between SoR and JQ as we lost Ward and Aco to you while getting NS and Agg. Don’t know how much BG can sent into NA prime, but on resets it seems pretty equal between the servers.
The problem with numbers and counting is that our EU is often kept alive by early NA players or Asians which stay on longer to keep the ppt above 100. And that’s the same SoR does. I see TW often in early EU time slots, not with the whole guild, but the tags are there and it’s the same with BG, when you meet HB (EU) guys in late NA or.. me in NA prime as an EU player.

WARD is strongly endorsed by SOR WvW forces, commander Razethh & Kytana coordinates extremely well with other guilds on the map for pushes and defense.

FW

Hello Problematique,

IRON is an EU guild in SOR. Drop me a PM if you wish to contact their GL Wrex? They run a 20-30 man team in EU time. But they occasionally play in SEA time.

FW

problematique.9314:

Hey guys. Currently I am looking for a new guild and server to call home. Currently I am on Aurora Glade where I moved with [VcY] and I ended up leaving for personal reasons within the guild. I am currently in another WvW guild on the server but I am seriously considering changing server and joining a different WvW guild. It will take some time to make the gold for the gems but if you have any server suggestions and could reccomend some guilds I would be very grateful. Thanks a bunch.

Hello Smokee,

I’ll be honest with you. The ppt gains of JQ and BG were analyzed last week. At the last meeting of the wvw guild leaders, and we had to prep for the BG Oceanic/SEA midweek push. We don’t really have a choice as MERC in oceanic/sea is really one of the most potent force in any of the tiers.

FW

Smokee.1754:

Jet.4795:

Smokee.1754:

Jet.4795:

BG did SoR stop playing with you guys? A lot of you just showed up at JQBL! Don’t worry we will play with you!

sor decided to sit behind a million ac´s in their hills, so we decided to come out here and play. Dont worry you´ll get your Bay back once we are done playing.

Good fights so far, keep em coming

Not worried about bay, its just a shame that SoR won’t play with you guys.

Well SoR have always been a sucker for PPT

Hello Monsoon,

This is not good, thanks for letting us know. Could you give me the person’s account name and guild tag? I will get right on this matter and present this to the proper channels. Will keep you updated.

FW

Monsoon.2589:

For 48 hrs on BG EB we have had a player from SoR constantly spamming balistas on dead players being rezzed and in front of gates and on top of other build sites like Trebs for the express and only reason to drain people’s supplies and slow down map capture.

Hello Pot,

I’m sorry to hear that. I really can’t believe that they’d let this happen a 2nd time. I’m running an old gtx295 on water but it seems ok atm. I hope you can get it RMAed. Take care.

FW

pot.6805:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Pot,

Are you on Nvidia or AMD? I read/heard that the Nvidia June driver killed some cards.

FW

pot.6805:

CuddleStrike.8215:

pot.6805:

yeah my gpu is done ;(

D:

get a new one.

Gg

Workin’ on it

gee gee

Nvidia. Pretty sure one of the 320.xx drivers killed my card. I’ve heard of other people having the same issue. It is effecting alot of GTX460/560 users.

Hello Pot,

Are you on Nvidia or AMD? I read/heard that the Nvidia June driver killed some cards.

FW

pot.6805:

CuddleStrike.8215:

pot.6805:

yeah my gpu is done ;(

D:

get a new one.

Gg

Workin’ on it

gee gee

Hello Shifty,

There are many factors in play here. If you are asking why a WvW guild can fight 1:3 ratio, it’s likely:

1. They weren’t in Teamspeak.
2. They weren’t geared for a 20 man setup.
3. They weren’t traited for a 20 man setup.

All this will probably give them a huge disadvantage.

FW

Shifty.4985:

7 IRON wipes a 20man ish SoS group in tc bl bay just now :/

Hello Tristam,

I believe that most of the Rallians have nothing but the deepest respect for TC. Your SEA guilds (like WvW) bring the fights. Show no fear, no running. /salute. We have learned much from TC too.

FW

Tristam Green.9178:

electriette.8952:

I’m not on SoS buuut…

I believe the reason why SoR is so much more organised in general is because they are constantly fighting servers of the same (or similar) population and calibre. For weeks the three ‘Titans’ as some may call it fight each other, while the other servers (SoS included) faces a eiiide variety of servers with a wiiide variety of population numbers. As a result there is a constant shift in the attitude/atmosphere/even skill of a server because of the variety of opposition they face.

That’s much the same reason we on TC have issues facing SoR every time we do.

We get months of (FA/DB/Mag) on one side (sometimes on both) and another on the other side, and we’re used to squaring off against that type of opponent.

SoR is a different animal altogether. It’s just how it is.

I’m fairly certain if we had four weeks solid against SoR, we would fare a lot better against them.

Hello Deli,

I need to clarify your numbers regarding a blob. Is it 30 or more?

The NYS team is roughly a 20-30+ man team on most nights, sometimes it goes up to close to 40. They were running approx 20-30+ in late March and have been doing that since then. In fact, NYS was one of the last groups to go 20-30man.

I have records of SOR SEA. I trained and workshopped NYS on group formation and tactics when I arrived from Kaineng in late February where we had to counter the JQ SEA 70+ man team. I was a commander in War Machine and we were running a 30-40 man blitzball from T8-T2 from Jan to Feb in Kaineng. TC/SOS OCN/SEA also runs 30+ mans from what I seen this week.

For the record most WvW guilds in T1 are running 20-30 mans (or more), it is an evolution of WvW warfare and it’s largely unavoidable due to the nature WvW mechanics. Most of the 20-30 mans evolved about the same time to be honest, from Dec2012-Feb2013. A 30 man team will have about enough supplies to take a keep in a productive manner.

FW

Deli.1302:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Aieo,

Thanks for your point of view.

Also Traejan, have you faced the JQ SEA 60-80man force hitting either BG or SOR nearly every SEA night since Jan/Feb 2013? That existed before either BG or SOR came up with the map blobs.

FW

Aieo.2815:

dwahvel.7356:

Traejan.1729:

Burl.9567:

Traejan.1729:

Asudementio.8526:

Elano.2014:

It’s equally hard, if not harder, to find TC roamers during the past few days as well. Half of them just run away when I wave, while the other half either die too soon or run into structures half-way through battle.

I guess roamers are now a rare species across all servers.

I blame the blob mentality SoR has:
1. Created in the T1 NA wvw meta game
2. Championed for more than half a year
..etc..

Fixed that for you..

Some people just want to see the world burn

ANet created the blob mentality and only strengthened its stranglehold with every subsequent patch. It was never one server championing the idea of it. Hopefully the new BLs will alleviate some of this play style…

I share your hope that one day the blobbing will end but let’s not try to re-write history here…

SoR created this tactic to stay competitive in T1 before the IRON/KISS EU transfers.

SoR continued this tactic once they had a large influx of players across multiple time zones and continue to map blob even now.

Every other server has had to do the same to compete and now the lag is pretty much unbearable.

created the tactic eh? I guess those PRX (hod) RUIN (et) map blobs didn’t really exist in t1 a year ago. I’m sure jq had some as well but can’t think of any of the guilds.

This guy speaks the truth. I recall map blobs back when PRX and RUIN were at their prime.

Don’t forget the NYS blob. They’ve been around just as long.

Hello Aieo,

Thanks for your point of view.

Also Traejan, have you faced the JQ SEA 60-80man force hitting either BG or SOR nearly every SEA night since Jan/Feb 2013? That existed before either BG or SOR came up with the map blobs.

FW

Aieo.2815:

dwahvel.7356:

Traejan.1729:

Burl.9567:

Traejan.1729:

Asudementio.8526:

Elano.2014:

It’s equally hard, if not harder, to find TC roamers during the past few days as well. Half of them just run away when I wave, while the other half either die too soon or run into structures half-way through battle.

I guess roamers are now a rare species across all servers.

I blame the blob mentality SoR has:
1. Created in the T1 NA wvw meta game
2. Championed for more than half a year
..etc..

Fixed that for you..

Some people just want to see the world burn

ANet created the blob mentality and only strengthened its stranglehold with every subsequent patch. It was never one server championing the idea of it. Hopefully the new BLs will alleviate some of this play style…

I share your hope that one day the blobbing will end but let’s not try to re-write history here…

SoR created this tactic to stay competitive in T1 before the IRON/KISS EU transfers.

SoR continued this tactic once they had a large influx of players across multiple time zones and continue to map blob even now.

Every other server has had to do the same to compete and now the lag is pretty much unbearable.

created the tactic eh? I guess those PRX (hod) RUIN (et) map blobs didn’t really exist in t1 a year ago. I’m sure jq had some as well but can’t think of any of the guilds.

This guy speaks the truth. I recall map blobs back when PRX and RUIN were at their prime.

Hello Spitfire,

You will be missed in T1. I know that SOR knows RISE for your tenacity in open field battles, for coming back again and again to fight. Much respect. /salute

FW

SpitFire.4690:

Maelwaedd.5842:

jusxshadow.1493:

RISE are farmers~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9XTK3_n2Y

Wanna thank BG for the hospitality. been great journey. Drop the bomb and B D!!

this the actual farmer video lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJdDSXl3g2s

P.S. I left few messages on [RISE] channel in BG TS

Hello Boosh,

I have to present you the whole thing in its entirety. Sometimes SOR TS has +18 chat content so if you are offended because of religious reasons or otherwise please keep that in mind. And there are folks getting drunk in TS too. Fyi.

FW

boosh.1978:

SoR TS sounds like a blast…and most importantly, friendly. Thanks for the feedback so far. I’d love to hear more.

Hello Raven,

Most of us will find a way to fun. If BG server leaders want to focus on PPT and score, then it’s commendable too. TBH, very impressive. As I have expressed to BG commanders, it’s great that BG is pushing. Not trolling.

Most of the SOR commanders however are more concerned about Friday nights and the level of intoxication they will try to achieve. Sometimes I wonder if that’s a good thing or bad thing.

FW

Raven Paradox.1860:

It’s always a win in my book seeing the score change so drastically overnight. Numbers are too important for some people/servers.

As of 755pm (GMT +8). BG owns 3 garrisons across the borderlands.

Started from an incredible push from 1pm. Recovering a huge PPT over 6 hours is nothing short of impressive.

/salute
FW

Hello,

I have to agree with you. BG’s server philosophy has always been about PPT. Their lead guild MERC has inculcated that mantra to the rest of their server mates and it has produced results. To date, BG has never left T1 and T2.

FW

gidorah.4960:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Gidorah,

I’ll present you the facts for NA fights. JQ has the highest gold medals followed by BG. The server that won last week is SOR after 5 weeks of wins by BG. Careful about spending your gold for transfer.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/medals

Here is our recruitment page.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/T1-SOR-Looking-For-Oceanic-Asian-WvWers/

SOR welcomes you if you don’t mind fighting JQ SEA (Foo/ATM) and BG OCN (MERC).

FW

gidorah.4960:

who is going to win so we can all transfer there before the league starts and get the reward bg, sor or jq? i dont pay enough attention to the top servers to follow who has more coverage these days

i’m na like most of the transfers the top 3 servers will be getting. i do have insomnia so i am sure that counts. thanks for being the only person to give a reasonable answer i’m sure i am not the only one who wants to know who will be winning the matchup although from your data the top 3 are somewhat volatile with bg being the most consistent they could all reasonably win the league depending on how the guilds in them realign. shame about the other 9 servers though.

Hello Gidorah,

I’ll present you the facts for NA fights. JQ has the highest gold medals followed by BG. The server that won last week is SOR after 5 weeks of wins by BG. Careful about spending your gold for transfer.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/medals

Here is our recruitment page.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/T1-SOR-Looking-For-Oceanic-Asian-WvWers/

SOR welcomes you if you don’t mind fighting JQ SEA (Foo/ATM) and BG OCN (MERC).

FW

gidorah.4960:

who is going to win so we can all transfer there before the league starts and get the reward bg, sor or jq? i dont pay enough attention to the top servers to follow who has more coverage these days

Hello, you’ll find both SOR and TC have warm communities. Both have great guilds and players who aren’t afraid to face the odds. TC is not in T1 only because of coverage. I think you’ll feel at home in either one.

FW

Hello Dawkimy,

Thanks for the endorsement.

To the new guys who’ve come over, do look up this thread and join up with one of the WvW guilds that fits your playstyle!

If you wish to remain as a member of the militia, it would aid the server greatly if you can walk into Teamspeak, it’s pretty much how WvW runs in SOR. Have a good week!

FW

Dawkimy.5248:

BG might only have 2 maps queued during these tone zone hours as the bg guy said, but SoR tends to have no maps queued. So yes, it’s definitely not going to be an easy fight. But on SoR you’ll find lots of willing and able WvWers to militia up with you, and tons of good fights even during not peak hours. What happens is we don’t have zergs on every maps, but the numbers we do have tend to be well organized and hold strong. For instance, tonight we were getting pressured hard to lose EVERYTHING, but our resolve kept us our t3s. And you’ll find if you ask the people who were there, tonight or on similar nights, that they are very proud of what we could do. So join up! SoR is consistently tier 1. And if you have a strong guild on a lower tier, a tier that doesn’t challenge your abilities and offer you good competition, you might find that a move to SoR is a good investment. Plus our Zerg wars have been known to offer maaajor bags.

Just some words from a kid that is very happy he signed up on the right server.

Hello Mr Seigfried,

I concur with you. If BG and SOR could work together especially in SEA time JQ would have some serious work to do. JQ SEA has never been 2v1 for the last 6 months due to the intense rivalry between BG and SOR.

One of the only way for BG and SOR to work together is for the server trolls (on both sides) to keep their peace for ~4-6 weeks. I think we’ll be surprised at what goodwill might result from that. I am highly skeptical it can happen however.

FW

Seigfried.5938:

Deli.1302:

Ryak Deathcarver.2975:

Check out his video from a dude in ICoa on the Blackgate server.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIDEHEripZU

Lol! JQ is like the most bipolar server. One minute they’re double-teaming SoR with BG, next minute they’re double-teaming BG with SoR.

They are just taking advantage of the rivalry to win, which is completely fair. If BG and SoR teamed up, I have no doubt we could push them down to tier 2.

Avenge.1478:

On a scale of 1 to ‘Quit Trying’, where does BG rank this week…

Hello Mr Avenge,

Please excuse my query, I’m not trolling but what exactly is the point of your question? I don’t understand. The BG folks have already said they are resting and quite of lot of them including JQ/SOR are on FF. I’m genuinely interested in your pov.

FW

Hello Burl,

From what I hear its mostly FFxiv. There are tonnes of JQ and SOR folks on it as well. All 3 servers are feeling the effect.

But even though BG has lesser numbers, they were still at a formidable 150-200PPT last night in Asian SEA with WM, CA, MEOW rocking the BLs.

Also, the new JQ SEA 15man+ [FB] (ATM elites) crew is shaping up nicely. Was great to see them for myself. JQ SEA is still pushing hard at 300PPT+ with GE, GGYY, ATM. SOR SEA numbers are still 1.5.-1.9 maps full.

Also, SOR got some feedback about why we are lacking transfers vs BG and JQ, seems that potential transfers are looking at the win:loss ratio. SOR has more loss than wins, partly why JQ SEA is up in numbers with JQ having the highest win/loss ratio.

FW

Burl.9567:

Haven’t seen the same numbers from MERC lately. Burned out from carrying the server?

Hello Fuzzion,

Afraid you’re mistaken. Reset time is approx 9am SG time.

FW

Fuzzion.2504:

CuddleStrike.8215:

Fuzzion.2504:

Ascii.9726:

Live Score Updates: http://mos.millenium.org/na
Live Map Updates: http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/map/933

Good luck everyone. Have fun, play fair and try to keep the thread clean!

Note: I will not be here next reset night to start the score thread (Holiday in NYC!) so i leave it to whoever wants to cover!

I vote cuddlestrike. ITs time a woman gets a chance

I’m never ever home for reset. Pick someone else Fuzz :P

Me too, i live is SEA so reset time is almost 6 am in the morning.

Hello Fuzzion,

Thanks for taking the time to explain. By that definition SBI wasn’t a bandwagon server. As Magikarp has stated, the departure of War Machine, a key guild in SEA time precipitated the downfall of SBI. SF the other large guild was left alone holding NA. Perhaps you can enquire Jed about the history of SBI?

FW

Fuzzion.2504:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Fuzzion,

I was on SBI before its collapse I often think about the causes. I need to understand what is your definition of bandwagon or the wagon mentality before we can proceed to have a decent discussion.

FW

Fuzzion.2504:

Whilst we understand and are aware that gold is being flashed to guilds to transfer over, the Wagon mentality has caused so many servers to crash in the end.

-HoD
-SBI
-SoS
-DB

Are just some of the examples.

The bandwagon effect is a well documented form of groupthink in behavioral science and has many applications. The general rule is that conduct or beliefs spread among people, as fads and trends clearly do, with “the probability of any individual adopting it increasing with the proportion who have already done so”.¹ As more people come to believe in something, others also “hop on the bandwagon” regardless of the underlying evidence.

The tendency to follow the actions or beliefs of others can occur because individuals directly prefer to conform, or because individuals derive information from others. Both explanations have been used for evidence of conformity in psychological experiments. For example, social pressure has been used to explain Asch’s conformity experiments,² and information has been used to explain Sherif’s autokinetic experiment.³ – From

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect

Its a well documented theory

Hello Fuzzion,

I was on SBI before its collapse I often think about the causes. I need to understand what is your definition of bandwagon or the wagon mentality before we can proceed to have a decent discussion.

FW

Fuzzion.2504:

Whilst we understand and are aware that gold is being flashed to guilds to transfer over, the Wagon mentality has caused so many servers to crash in the end.

-HoD
-SBI
-SoS
-DB

Are just some of the examples.

Hello,

I concur with this. Coupled with Eyeinfinity or simply playing in a windowed screen (both which are not hacks according to Anet) with AC master, this is what a lot folks use, even in SOR.

FW

noob.2875:

Fade I can gaurentee you that DA would never hack and yes our guy did have AC mastery. Now drop this discussion please.

Hello Tarkus,

Apologies but I have to disagree with you, and also agree. I’ve been thinking about this for quite some time, the issue of WvW population. Bear with me:

1. Your visit to SOR was in Mar/Apr (correct me if I am wrong, I did not record your timeline with us), AFS was still out in full force with other militia. Since your visit, AFS presence has diminished by 95-98%. We do not see them in the field anymore. The hardcore militia at that time have diminished.

2. More importantly with regards to absolute numbers in WvW, it’s pretty near impossible to count for both sides. Why so? There are basically 2 types of WvWers, the hardcores and the PvX. The WvW PvX turnout = (PvX to the power of PPT) divided by PvE gold/hr. That’s why you were leading 50+ guys in EB (with only small squads in other BLs) when PPT went below 100. Same for SOR too when JQ and BG hit SOR SEA full force, the PvX guys disappeared. That is why there is no end to the argument, the numbers fluctuate dramatically.

FW

Tarkus.4109:

I’d say the SEA pop is actually relatively equal between the servers, as I have been to SoR previous to SONG coming on board. The major thing that you’d notice is that SoR will float to your BL with a full queue as thier map usually has T3 WP keeps from NA and you often have to use diversionary tactics to wipe a WP by hitting two targets at the same time during oceanic. But if the home T3 keep falls the pressure is usually halved as SoR doesn’t put all of their eggs in one basket.

Hello Vash,

Thanks for your reply. I sent you a PM. Let me know if you are comfortable with the procedures.

FW

Vash.9183:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Azure,

As I am in touch with the guilds in SOR Asian Prime, I need to clarify this. NYS did 4 GvGs last week (BG and TC guilds). And pretty much no GvGs prior that except for 1 or 2.

But yes, the guilds SONG, SAHP, NYS plus very small Asian guilds work in 1 BL most of the time. For some reason we don’t have a lot of Asian militia hence our recruitment thread.

I can extend the offer for you Vash to visit SOR Asia for 2 weeks to take a look yourself. All expenses paid. /totallyserious

FW

Azure.8412:

How big is big for you? I’ve been in SoR for a long time, and I can assure you they turn up all the time. NYS is just usually GvGing, and these guilds usually work together in 1 borderland. You might not have noticed them.

Okay, I’m packing my bags tonight. I want first-class tickets. I don’t want to take a plane though, that’s pretty over-rated. I’ll go by boat.

Hello Azure,

As I am in touch with the guilds in SOR Asian Prime, I need to clarify this. NYS did 4 GvGs last week (BG and TC guilds). And pretty much no GvGs prior that except for 1 or 2.

But yes, the guilds SONG, SAHP, NYS plus very small Asian guilds work in 1 BL most of the time. For some reason we don’t have a lot of Asian militia hence our recruitment thread.

I can extend the offer for you Vash to visit SOR Asia for 2 weeks to take a look yourself. All expenses paid. /totallyserious.

Also, one last thing. I need to clarify this, for the SOR guys, BG does not have 4 maps queued on Asian Prime consistently. Even when they were winning.

FW

Azure.8412:

How big is big for you? I’ve been in SoR for a long time, and I can assure you they turn up all the time. NYS is just usually GvGing, and these guilds usually work together in 1 borderland. You might not have noticed them.

Hello Vash,

I’ll be honest with you, I do wish the trolls or naysayers would keep the opinions to themselves.

Also, the Cursed Shore champ farms are crazy now, I think all 3 servers have lost PvX folks to the 10-20g/hr loot runs. However I wouldn’t blame them, WvW is for masochists. With the upgrades, siege, etc I think we lose more money in the long run.

FW

Vash.9183:

Aphs.9528:

i wonder if the guild MERC is going to desert Blackgate the same way they deserted Sea of Sorrows when their server started to struggle a little bit in WvW

Nice try, but Blackgate has been in worse state than this. MERC has become part of the core members of the Blackgate community and leadership.

Don’t get excited.

Hello Majeste,

T3 servers should be great for the smaller teams (<15man) with no skill lag, etc.

Take care have fun.

FW

Hello Cradorell,

Cradorell.3941:

Hi guys, need some input with regards to getting burnt out in the game leading a guild and stuff! It hit me last night with all the pressures and strains. Any advice from other burnt out commanders or guild leaders would be amazing thankyou!

Running a guild & leading WvW are 2 very distinct roles, most guild leaders make the mistake of trying to do both. A general can command a battlefield but will find it hard to run a community. Both require different skill sets and trying to do both might contribute to burn out.

Also, you have to know when fun & entertainment leads into work. When it becomes work, burnout comes easier.

Take care
FW

Thanks Ace for the endorsement.

Thanks again for the enquiries, especially about the use of Teamspeak. About SOR teamspeak, it’s heavily utilized for map comms, pincers, feints and calling for different combo fields. It does speed things up and speed in a battlefield is one of the foundation stones of the wvw community. Even if you don’t have mic, do pop in, it’ll be more fun even working as a militia team.

We’ll like to welcome the new Oceanic and SEA guys, our server is still open to transfer as it is not full yet.

Again, come only if you are prepared to fight outnumbered, it’ll be the toughest fight in Tier 1 Oceanic & Asian time zones.

FW

Hi Wolbryne,

Congrats on the birth of your child. Tough adventure if it’s the 1st time. Nothing quite like it.

FW

Wolbryne.4037:

WyldKat.4712:

Nakoor.1980:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

And TW is darned proud of their Zerg balls!

Zerging for life!

I still say I’d be the cutest lil crackling EVER in a Starcraft MMORPG.

And for the record, AC/DC has the biggest balls of them all.

Wolbryne.4037:

I know made, but the doctor said no hanky panky before the 6 week mark after my wife’s c-section

I’m sure you two can figure out a way to use the hanky without involving the panky.

of course lol. but nothing beats the panky though :P

Hello Stealth,

Score is 4 – 1 in favor of NYS.

FW

Stealth.8150:

anyone got the score for the gvg today
NYS vs INVC

Hello Magikarp,

Noted, thanks for taking the time to reply. I did a check on PPT for BG during from 7pm-12pm (GMTm+8), BG PPT also showed a bigger gain over SOR overall.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/33/93

Let me check on my BG friends about the situation 2 nights ago. I’ll get back to you.

With regards to “taking a grain of salt” about SOR SEA, I will have to respectfully disagree with you. I deal/work with with PPT data, population mix, player mindsets & morale. And I am extremely particular about forecasting so I take population issues very seriously.

Perhaps I can offer our servers a solution, I will pay (out of my pocket) you to transfer over to SOR WvW for 2 weeks to see the situation personally in SEA. As you know, both SOR and BG SEA are hardcores so both won’t be able to hold back for 2 weeks. Let me know what you think. I am serious, let’s settle this issue we have been discussing for so long and find a closure.

FW

MagiKarp.8201:

Fann, I said last two nights, not last night specifically.

I also would say take what I said with a grain of salt, SoR SEA does have decent enough numbers in fact they have much more now than we had back when JQ Queued all maps during SEA, prior to SoR’s rise and WM et al coming to BG.

My comments are solely directed at the NA players who consistently rant about Oc/SEA being PvDoor it’s funny really, we both know it is not.

Hello Margikarp,

Were you on last night to check the PPT movement and BG SEA forces? I am afraid that you are mistaken. Tarkus was on till late, perhaps you could check your findings with him, Tarkus’ data is usually spot on.

I was on last night and was curious too about the surge in SOR PPT at late Asian Prime. I did a check with WM, ND and Merc numbers (I still have a few great buddies over in BG). They were noticeably lower last night vs the last few days. My friends tell me that quite a few folks are having fun farming the new content.

I also checked our Asian SEA, the numbers dropped a bit last night (as evidenced by the lower PPT vs BG straight after the 6 hour maintenance) but picked up later into the night at 11pm+ GMT+8.

With regards to SEA coverage, one of the BG guys also acknowledged in this recruitment post that BG has the numbers. Do note that I am not complaining, just stating my observations.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/Lf-server-for-wvw/first#post2541032

Have a great week guys, most of the SOR folks are bracing for the big Merc push soon. Btw, I can rest assure you that all of the guilds you’ve mentioned were not offended by Brutus’ statement.

FW

MagiKarp.8201:

@Brutus because SoR is finally showing up…

Not playing that card in it’s fullness but we have been dealing with the true SoR forces the last 2 nights. SoR has much SEA coverage, but complains so much and has this attitude where they tell their SEA not to try so they don’t. What you are seeing is your SEA trying, it is a bit of a shock to us the last two days, I’m sure it will get better for us (BG) over the next two days but please don’t play that bull “1 commander on all maps” you troll.

You denegrade the efforts of IRON, SAHP, NYS, GC, HiRE, SONG, SEC, AL, HS, XPK and the up early FEAR/TW et al with these comments, you have SEA boost their morale don’t crush it with bs complaints like this.

Hello Shino,

Which benefits? If it’s PvE you can guest and check it out for yourself. If it’s WvW, take a look at MOS history. PPT/time does not lie and reveals a lot of information about the server. The most tell tale sign is how the server behaves when it’s matched up against another server with more coverage, PPT/time will tell you how hard they fight in spite of overwhelming odds.

I do empathize with you that some folks don’t use TS. That said, the meta in upper tiers have evolved greatly, the commanders regularly use feints, pincers, sudden flanks, etc and executing these maneuvers requires voice comms, it’s near impossible to do without.

I wish you the best,
FW

Silent Shino.7239:

I had a look a the SoS recruitment thread and the benefits seem too good to be true, what’s the catch?

Hello Clockradio,

I have spent much time thinking about that disclaimer. I want to emphasize this because at the end of the day, I am just a gamer sitting in front of a PC enjoying a game. My guild and server exists only on my LCD, when I switch it off I am back in the real world.

I’ll be honest, I find the vitriol from both sides very discomforting. Some will argue that it’s part of a competitive gaming culture and it’s all for fun. But due to the mask of anonymity freeing up the need for civility, the forum pretty much shows the true base instincts of the posters. The posts do reveal who person is in real life, beneath the veneer of societal conformity. It does sadden me to a large extent.

Perhaps it’s an indication of the times that we live in since I did not encounter this level of hatred in the WHA Warhammer 2008 forums even though the competition in the Darklands server was intense.

I wish everyone a great weekend and a great reset.

FW

Clockradio.3257:

Fannwong.3059:

This might be a bit early but congrats to BG for the win. Much respect to BG Oceanic and SEA folks, great pushes.

FW

Disclaimer: I don’t speak for my server nor guild. My posts are from an independent observer’s point of view.

I think everyone would be OK if that post didn’t have the disclaimer Fannwong

This might be a bit early but congrats to BG for the win. Much respect to BG Oceanic and SEA folks, great pushes.

FW

Disclaimer: I don’t speak for my server nor guild. My posts are from an independent observer’s point of view.

Hello HollyMolla,

I really hate to be a spelling kitten but I am a parent so I hope you don’t take this personally, it’s “morale” not “moral”.

Morale is ok, and no we are not in training like last week. If you need to verify, there are folks who left SOR for BG and pop into our teamspeak from time to time, do ask them. Israel for one has been on both servers. As I said earlier, the numbers are still there for Oceanic and SEA, though small they are fighting tooth and nail for every inch of ground taken by BG.

FW

HolyMolla.6582:

So few weeks ago, Waha said he’s going to break SOR’s moral.
I think its working and without Waha being in the match.

Hello Boulderbolg,

I’ve been checking with the SEA and OCN guilds, the WvW folks are still out there, (although I am in Asian Prime I pop into NA & OCN). SOR SEA still fields 1.5-1.9 maps (from Feb 2013) and we still fight as strategically as we can in our time zone. I don’t have all the data on BG population so I can’t comment.

FW

Boulderbolg.3460:

I haven’t read this entire thread (my condolences if you have), but may I ask what is going on with SoR? Is your population shrinking or something? Is Blackgate now the most stacked NA server? I could care less about the point tick and who wins week to week, what I want are competitive opponents. I don’t really want to be on the most stacked server in the game.

Hello Azure,

War Machine won 4-2 or 5-2 against AWE of TC. Was great to see Jang Gun back in the game with WM’s 1st GvG after a long time. If I am not wrong, WM did not GvG when they transferred to BG. And like all guilds they won and lost their fair share of fights, giving them a label might not be fair.

Thank you Bincus for letting me know about the GvG, was really fun to see some good fights again.

FW

Azure.8412:

oxide.8324:

nah go nuts, it’s funny watching your full map zerg fail against 25 of us on 25 acs.

Edited it for you. Btw, did WM lose again in another GvG? You guys must be getting used to losing.. WM should change their name to Weak Machine [WM] or Losing Machine [LM].

Hello all,

SOR is a fights focused server (fights 1st priority, PPT 2nd) looking for late NA, Oceanic, early EU & EU militia and commanders to fill our ranks. If you are hardcore wvw guilds or casuals looking to improve your game SOR is be the place you are looking for. We are in process of rebuilding. Fighting kitten NA and SEA timing. http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/41/

We have no queues for all BLs outside of reset day.

We fight tooth and nail.

We fight, sing, get drunk in teamspeak. (R18 sometimes)

We never give up. We never ever surrender.

1. Do note that 1st and foremost, SOR commanders put in the time and effort to fight for themselves and the timezone, don’t fight to keep PPT, fight for fun, fight for a 24/7 community.

2. Contact persons are “Parver” (NA), “Esamo” (NA to late NA), “Aurust” (OCX, SEA), “Okami Rai” (OCX, SEA), “Snownow” (SEA, Chinese), “Lord Green Arrow” (EU), please PM or whisper them IN GAME as they do not frequent the forums. Please allow for a 24 hour window response time.

3. If your guild needs assistance in transferring, the SOR WvW Committee is open to discussing financial aid on a case by case basis.

FW

Hello HollyMola,

For the record, training ended last week by reset Saturday morning for all of SOR including NA, OCN, SEA & EU. What BG & TC SEA is seeing during SEA prime time GMT+8 (8pm-12am) are the absolute numbers of NYS, SAHP, SONG, SATY plus various guilds & militia. They can fill roughly 1.5-1.9maps as stated in earlier matchup posts. We are pretty much fighting against odds but we will always give our best.

FW

Hello Sophie,

I was in Kaineng. The NA and SEA guilds transferred in Dec/Jan and Kaineng rose to T2. Kaineng stayed at T2 for quite a while and when the SEA guilds left, the NA guilds too and after that Kaineng started falling through the ranks. The last serious WvW guild “WvW Guild” left about 2-4 weeks ago and they are in TC.

FW

Hello Sieg,

Looking at NA ppt today and yesterday, I would rate TC as a great T1 server on a per capita basis. Much much respect, you guys are really solid players. TC SEA is also noteworthy, holding their own really well. /salute to WvW Guild members.

FW

Sieg.8439:

Urrid.4593:

Sieg.8439:

My work comp has a site blocker that keeps me from checking the live score thinger.
Can someone post the current score?

Sanctum of Rall 30,945
Blackgate 27,890
Tarnished Coast 26,596

Oh man, us TCers are getting handled a bit! This has been a great matchup, it’s killing me that I can’t jump in!

Hello Neuromancer,

One of my friends from Thailand got very bad lag later in the night that stopped him from playing. Are you on in Asian time in Asia too? The HK guys are ok atm.

FW

Neuromancer.2148:

I tried playing for an hour, only to die 4 times without killing a thing. The lag beast has stricken. I’ll be sitting this one out until things get straightened out. Dammit, and this is the matchup I really wanted to play. Good luck to all three servers!

Hello Darkjoy & HollyMolla,

I just checked my records for the matches between BG and SOR, with regards to large score deviations. About the data, please don’t take it personally. I am just presenting facts.

The wvw guilds that moved to BG and SOR would have already quietly sent scouts anonymously for more than 1-2 weeks to accurately gauge wvw community cohesiveness, commitment & communication prior to making a decision. The scouts would know if the server consciously lowering the score to attract guilds, to think otherwise would be insulting their intelligence.

On that note, I remember that 2-3 days before WM + Meow transferred to BG, I had a conversation with Jang about the scores for SOR & BG. He and I agreed that BG & SOR scores were fluctuating dramatically, and at that time BG had lower scores for 2 weeks. It was acknowledged by both SOR & BG that rest weeks were warranted due to the intense pressure of T1 and that MERC was resting after pushing hard prior the 2 weeks with serious CTAs.

Perhaps it will not be uncommon in the future for the T1 servers to push hard and rest due to wvw player attrition, the server leaders will have to manage HR really well.

FW

Darkjoy.3092:

SykkoB.9465:

HolyMolla.6582:

SOR got more guilds transferred?
Why not play the game instead of recruiting new guilds everyweek?
You guys said last week was trainning week, but it showed you guys
gave up last week’s match to get more guilds hahahaaaaa.

Good tactics SOR.

TIN foil hat off plzzzzz.

BG has been getting xfers also. TKg from jq, Rawnoodles and freinds from DB, plus all the solo guys i been reading who have moved to BG plus Titan and his band of friends.

WE ALL RECRUIT. now that i have put some facts into ur conspiracy theories, can we get back to playing the game ??

Yes we all recruit. The difference is that BG doesn’t tank our score to do it

HolyMolla.6582:

SOR got more guilds transferred?
Why not play the game instead of recruiting new guilds everyweek?
You guys said last week was trainning week, but it showed you guys
gave up last week’s match to get more guilds hahahaaaaa.

Good tactics SOR.

Hello guys,

I’ve been ordered to give this message by Zac, our 2nd OIC NA Commander to BG NA OIC Commander. I did a pure cut/paste because I think her language is on the trolly side but I think her intent is extremely clear.

FW