Guild Wars 2

Geoski.1407:

People spend hard earned gold to xfer for a reason, we don’t want random matchups, especially when servers differ in population to such degrees.

Come on A-net… read our comments, don’t make a drastic mistake after all your improvements. This will do way more damage to the player base then it is to see if its worth seeing “Is this T1 server better than this T8 server hmmmmmMMMmmmmMMMMMMMMmmm!!!??”

Did you even read our comments? Or ANet’s for that matter?

People want DIFFERENT match-ups.
ANet isn’t making DRASTIC changes.
T1 and T8 will NEVER be in the same match-up.

Read before you post the same stuff everyone posted on Page 1 and 2.

Floofs.3574:

Well, with the update its probably time to transfer back to et. Any guilds recruiting bad mesmers?

Fistoftheempire.com

I could see something like this… person with permissions send out an “invite” to everyone, kind of the way Microsoft Outlook does, each person Accept/decline. GL could set the reminders, up to 4 and how many people will be attending.

Example:
15 minutes until {event name} – 40 people attending.
1 hour until {event name} – 32 people attending.
4 hours until {event name} – 20 people attending.
8 hours until {event name} – 8 people attending.

All it takes is 1 line to show up so spam wouldn’t be too bad.

Anyone calculated the ratio of WXP:EXP for capping camps, sentries etc as a formal karma train would do?

Like 2 character levels is worth 1.5 WXP levels.

I wish the higher tiered the objective, the more wxp it gives. Spending 3 hours laying siege to a T3 Hills/Bay should give WAY more exp then PvDooring them in the off hours. Fully upgraded camp gives more. The more it is upgraded, the more likely it is to be defended AND makes it a better target for enemies. Partially get rid of the “empty BL karma train”.

There could be some very interesting match-ups. A T-1 server getting thrown in with 2 T-4s, talk about perfect 2v1 opportunity!

My only question: is anything going to be done about low population servers? On ET, we are out-manned by OTHER T8 servers, if we are thrown into a group with T6 or T7, we’d probably just boycott that week.

Next week should be the last that we are paired up, Required Nightly Doylak Parade Law is now in effect. Please stock up on potions and fireworks for this extravaganza.

Thank you.

Ungood.3054:

LilMcGinley.3890:

1) sPvP is a point game, not a PvP game. It is like Headquarters in Call of Duty, you could go 0-0 and still win, it’s player vs point, not player vs player.

They revamped sPvP so that killing players awards points now, so you can in fact fight Meat grinder style for points and not even bother with holding objectives.

2) Guilds who want to fight roaming in small groups CAME to T8 because they could actually function without zerg-dodging every 10 minutes.

Laughable. We had [Agg] on ET, and they Transferred down for this reason, and then moved back up because T8 is too easy, on every level. Sorry, but this is a lame excuse. In fact [Agg] after a week here used to go Zerg Hunting just to challenge themselves. If there was any real desire for skills and challenge, T3 or T4 is where they would move to, if they could hack it.

While we had [Agg] on ET, however, they did exactly what PAXA did, but they used to take Keeps and Towers to incite a fight with SF. yah, SF, the guys that made you run and cry to mommy, they used to go hunt. So, they were better for us then PAXA is for HoD, but even then, [Agg] while they left on good terms, and I have nothing but respect for them,their leaving did not affect the balance of the game at all. 1 tower, 1 keep? for a few hours. What does PAXA give? A Camp? LOL.

Seriously, the truth is, like it or not, if they stopped playing for a week, no one would notice and the points would not change. So, Like, love them, or even ignore them, they don’t affect your WvW outcome or what tier you are on.

As for their forum bragging, well. to use another spots analogy, is like watching the gym class kids brag about their Kick Ball skillz. No matter how good they think they are, they are still just the bottom rung of the gaming ladder.

Sorry, you can not compare 60 man AGG to 10 man PAXA (no offense but they are completely different)…We came down here with AGG for a reason, to evade the 70-80 man zergs, THAT is why they moved. Other guilds like PAXA created a home here for ROAMING. Completely different guild missions and what they find fun, you can not compare them to one another.

People play the game differently, get over it. Jesus Christ.

katz.8376:

Linanthony.1809:

Think of it this way guys. If PAXA was on your server, would you dislike them?

someone i announce on map chat as an area to avoid if solo.

Isn’t that actually HELPING their server on the macro scale?? “Dont go to south camp, PAXA is there” therefore no one retakes that camp in fear of being killed or a huge zerg goes to the camp to retake it, meanwhile they (PAXA) is at the north camp flipping it.

PAXA is like many PvP guild, they want to kill PEOPLE, not lay siege to a tower for hours on end. Take it for what is it worth, personally, I’d like to roll with PAXA sometime, 2 5-man groups can do a lot of damage if organized.

Keep rollin’ PAXA, Haters just mean you’re doing it right

If you already have 500 people in a guild, why not create another and have that bad boy full upgraded in a month?

Also, have everyone use teamspeak or something so that you won’t miss the “LF2M CoFP1” spam in g-chat

1) sPvP is a point game, not a PvP game. It is like Headquarters in Call of Duty, you could go 0-0 and still win, it’s player vs point, not player vs player.

2) Guilds who want to fight roaming in small groups CAME to T8 because they could actually function without zerg-dodging every 10 minutes.

3) If it’s Red, it’s dead.

Doggie.3184:

LilMcGinley.3890:

I’m currently missing my pre-cursor and the lodestones for Frostfang, and a couple T6 mats. I am taking PRIDE in making my Legendary WITHOUT playing the TP, WITHOUT farming CoFP1 and WITHOUT camping Orr for hours on end. Laurels, WvW, random Meta Events and Orr Nodes are my only source of income/mats.

Yes, I’d like to have some other way to get the 400G needed for my pre-cursor (don’t even get me started on the lodestones) but I don’t want to go that way, I’d rather have a scavenger hunt to get it. I WANT to spend the time to get what I need, rather then farm the gold in CoF or buy it with my credit card.

EDIT: Easier ways to get T6?? Srsly? lol.. you get 40 T6 crafting bags a month (120 total) for free if you wish and just killing mobs in Orr give you plenty of mats.

With Vol, It’s not about making it easier or harder to get certain parts, it is about OPTIONS.

Lodestones took me the longest out of everything. I just kept buying Cores and MFing them. I tried farming them but it was impossible; pretty much all of my lodestones were crafted from cores I bought. I farmed T6 items directly while placing buy orders with money mainly gained from ectos, excess T6 I didn’t need and orichalcum/ancient.

Thanks for that insight. I have 4 of my T6 mat stacks and what excess I get from loot bags or drops, I sell. I have a decent amount of gold (~140) so I have enough to buy ‘some’ of the lodestones but not all. Yeah I wish there was an easier way to get them but then it’s not a challenge. I wish there was more ways to get Account-bound mats.

I’m currently missing my pre-cursor and the lodestones for Frostfang, and a couple T6 mats. I am taking PRIDE in making my Legendary WITHOUT playing the TP, WITHOUT farming CoFP1 and WITHOUT camping Orr for hours on end. Laurels, WvW, random Meta Events and Orr Nodes are my only source of income/mats.

Yes, I’d like to have some other way to get the 400G needed for my pre-cursor (don’t even get me started on the lodestones) but I don’t want to go that way, I’d rather have a scavenger hunt to get it. I WANT to spend the time to get what I need, rather then farm the gold in CoF or buy it with my credit card.

EDIT: Easier ways to get T6?? Srsly? lol.. you get 40 T6 crafting bags a month (120 total) for free if you wish and just killing mobs in Orr give you plenty of mats.

With Vol, It’s not about making it easier or harder to get certain parts, it is about OPTIONS.

Parisalchuk.9230:

LilMcGinley.3890:

If anyone is familiar with Runescape and the Completionist cape (both regular and trimmed) know that is the “end-game item achievement”. This takes YEARS of grinding and 1 of the items on the checklist takes 5,000 games of a mini-game at 20 minutes each. I agree with Vol. Any Precursor checklist should be long, it should be hard, it should be a grind.

Legendary weapons should be legendary. Pay the cash or do the time for your precursor.

Your last line is highly contradictory. What is at all legendary about forking over cash?

Farming 600G is a feat in itself. Taking that time to either farm or complete a checklist is the same in the end. It is Legendary in the fact that you either 1) spend the time farming all the mats or 2) spent the time farming gold to buy the mats. Not sure how it’s contradictory…

It’s about the time commitment, not the summation of the value of the components.

Vol.5241:

Tbh I think the cost to transfer is too little. Needs to be higher, maybe 50% more. Still we hear entire WvW guilds transferring off because they don’t like their current server.

OP I suggest you wait on transfering. There will be a new ranking system in the patch next week and it will most likely adjust your server to an appropriate tier where people will enjoy WvW.

I’d love to see how much gold has been used to buy gems to pay for transfers since paid transfers came out. 2 servers have collapsed in NA not to mention EU T1 collapsed as well.

I hope the new ranking system is better, I really do… I feel like WvW is 1 bad update from just imploding and being forgotten in the minds of PvP guilds.

If anyone is familiar with Runescape and the Completionist cape (both regular and trimmed) know that is the “end-game item achievement”. This takes YEARS of grinding and 1 of the items on the checklist takes 5,000 games of a mini-game at 20 minutes each. I agree with Vol. Any Precursor checklist should be long, it should be hard, it should be a grind.

Legendary weapons should be legendary. Pay the cash or do the time for your precursor.

I’ve seen 1 maybe 2 zergs on ET this week. If you are looking for small ops, ET has the smallest WvW population.

Vol.5241:

“Some small parts of that comprehensive plan for game reward systems are already rolling out this month with the updates to WvW rank rewards.”

I can hear it now – lots of people are gonna complain that in order to get a precursor they will be ‘forced’ to WvW

Haha. That’d be the day.. The chances are probably as small as looting on in Orr anyway, chances are more than likely to be super small.

Probably be able to finally buy a precursor from the loot we get from the chests before actually getting one FROM a chest.

Ragnar.4257:

If they make WvW Ascended not require laurels, you’ll just get a flood of PvErs coming in to get Ascended, clogging up maps with badge-farming-zerker-nubs.

Some servers would die to have PvE’ers come out to WvW.

Zerker nubs? You mean free kills? Bring it on time to farm!

If you run a karma train, you can get 1-2 ranks relatively quickly. WvW will still not be faster at getting rares than watching dragon timer and hopping to servers to get the events done on 1 account.

It’s an either or, Either farm events or play WvW for chests. If you get rares from the chests, I wonder how many people will save up rares to try at the off chance winning the Mystic Lotto.

Agreed. It’s a love/hate thing, I love that ANet releases information on changes but I hate how they give us nothing other than 1 sentence which leads to all the topics and mass panic.

I will say: if they make “user takes no damage” and “oil can not be damaged” as a part of this mastery, WvW population will go insane. More damage – longer burn duration – small range increase are the only viable updates I could see happening, then again Oil is almost pointless because it’s the first thing to go, might be why they want to introduce a trait line. Why give a trait line to something that never lasts past the first 30 seconds of attacking a tower/keep?

The AC changes made hitting a door pretty difficult and if Oil Mastery gets a big boost, we could see more treb/cata sieges which would be exactly what most of the WvW community doesn’t want. Time will tell.

Gravy.7589:

Complaining about their sea/oceanic coverage? Nah. Complaining bout how much they love their AC’s ….. yes. Get it right man, if you wanna troll. Sheesh :P

LOL, welcome to AC Wars 2?? I thought everyone knew that ACs were OP and it’s not just SoS that abuses them, EVERY server does. Arrow cart spam is the current meta.

@phoebe – WM left a while back and caused a mass exodus of the WvW guilds off SBI. I think most went to CD (?)..

OP – Put the MOS link in your first post, voila no more score updates needed. New API takes care of that for us.

Gravy.7589:

If you are kitten and worried about points, don’t bother coming to SBI/tier 4. SoS is not stomping anyone on the battlefield. They pvd their points lead during early morning NA time.

SoS is and has ALWAYS been the unofficial official Ocx server for the NA side, complaining that they have too many ocx players is like saying my double cheeseburger taste too much like beef and cheese…

Dobri.9804:

Dear HoD and ET – if you meet each other on our FC turf, would you kindly exterminate one another, rather than both attack us in perfect unison?

(this was the 5th case this day – here ET defended, HoD attacked us and then went to capture Titan camp and some other stuff)

LOL don’t take yourself to serious bro, we had 6 FoE online and some random PuGs and thought it’d be fun to take your tower. We aren’t “teaming up against you”, we really wanted y’all to take it back under insane AC fire.

What you SHOULD have posted was our 7 man crew killing off FC’s back line while fighting HoD at Vale and then y’all had to call in 25 people to kill us.

Obligatory: OMG FoE STILL WvWs?!?!??!?!

PS: take a better screenshot, I can not see myself. ty

FoE is still alive and kicking! With the new WvW updates announced today, we will be looking for new members who want to WvW on a nightly basis.

Timelord.8190:

The price should be 500 badges and one gold for each ascended piece.
Keep the laurels out of wvw.

5G, 10G I don’t care.. Laurels have no place in WvW, even with the new “wvw only daily”.

Aurust.8961:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Aurust.8961:

Can’t wait for more variety in our wvw matches…. Ferguson’s Crossing and Borlis Pass… SOR is coming for you! Should be a super fun and exciting match that will definitely not result in any kind of lopsided scores… at all…. a friggin nail biter right to the very bitter end…..

Better get a bed pan folks, in case you crap yourself from all the exciting matches we are in store for that will not be decided within the first day.

“The goal is to get you more variety in match ups, while avoiding match ups against worlds way outside of your current tier so it’s not too crazy.”

No SoR/FC/FC match ups or the like.

It will still be ridiculously lopsided. The difference between even a single tier are MASSIVE. Remember the QQ from tier 8 when SF was stomping it? It will be like that for every matchup, every week….

Love how everyone here is so concerned with gear, that wont really make any impact on wvw… but aren’t discussing a game breaking change that they are implementing.

I agree with you. I’m on ET and for us, any change in match up for us will be a disaster. We just simply don’t have the man-power to compete with any server other than HoD/FC.

ANet is honestly in a “ kitten if you do, kitten if you don’t” situation. People ask for balanced match-ups, they work the glicko to give us them, now we ask for different, balanced match-ups, I hope they figured something out, but I think the ability for different, balanced match-ups is not possible with a tier system.

Naffy.1493:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Naffy.1493:

Snowreap.5174:

+1. “winner up loser down” sounds good in theory, but in practice it has real problems.

WvW isn’t the playoffs. the losers don’t go home for the season, they have to play again the very next week and the ratings algorithm has to be able to find reasonably good matches for them too. This isn’t as easy as it sounds.

-ken

Not really. Winner of the Tier moves up, the loser moves down, and the middle stays. This happens every week. Worst case is you play the same teams every other week if the previous week’s loser always wins and the previous week’s winner always loses. Best case is servers make a big push for a couple weeks and climb the ladder. Slack for a couple weeks and you may wake up in Tier 8.

No complex math involved. Not sure why this wouldn’t be the solution selected………

Then the T1 servers could take “a few weeks off”, end up in T4/5 then steamroll all the way back to T1 with ease.

Yep, but they would have to win many consecutive weeks. And any time a server steamrolls, they are gone the next week.

If you are a T1 server going up against T4 servers, you are going to win. I don’t see SoR/JQ or BG losing to any server lower than them as it stands now. Winning weeks in a row isn’t an issue when you have a Top 3 WvW population going up against what I can assume is the Houston Astros or Detroit Lions of WvW.

Aurust.8961:

Can’t wait for more variety in our wvw matches…. Ferguson’s Crossing and Borlis Pass… SOR is coming for you! Should be a super fun and exciting match that will definitely not result in any kind of lopsided scores… at all…. a friggin nail biter right to the very bitter end…..

Better get a bed pan folks, in case you crap yourself from all the exciting matches we are in store for that will not be decided within the first day.

“The goal is to get you more variety in match ups, while avoiding match ups against worlds way outside of your current tier so it’s not too crazy.”

No SoR/FC/FC match ups or the like.

AndrewSX.3794:

My only gripe is that basing stuff on WvW ranks means slapping aagain the face of whoever uses alts instead of a single char all day everyday.

hint/accountsharedwvwranks/hint

Aside that, let’s see how things turns out.

The laurel cost for the Asc does the same thing… I hate it. Make it captures or something else. At least the monthly resets shortly after release…

Naffy.1493:

Snowreap.5174:

+1. “winner up loser down” sounds good in theory, but in practice it has real problems.

WvW isn’t the playoffs. the losers don’t go home for the season, they have to play again the very next week and the ratings algorithm has to be able to find reasonably good matches for them too. This isn’t as easy as it sounds.

-ken

Not really. Winner of the Tier moves up, the loser moves down, and the middle stays. This happens every week. Worst case is you play the same teams every other week if the previous week’s loser always wins and the previous week’s winner always loses. Best case is servers make a big push for a couple weeks and climb the ladder. Slack for a couple weeks and you may wake up in Tier 8.

No complex math involved. Not sure why this wouldn’t be the solution selected………

Then the T1 servers could take “a few weeks off”, end up in T4/5 then steamroll all the way back to T1 with ease.

Liquid.9672:

Naffy.1493:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Naffy.1493:

Liquid.9672:

Naffy.1493:

DevonCarver.5370:

Cottage Pie.6215:

you’ll never be able to buy ascended items for badges.

1) badges are kitten easy to get on high tiers, this is so you can buy lots of siege.
2) waaaay too many people are stuffed senseless with badges and are too selfish too buy lots of siege and want rewards for themselves, aka ascended items.

It’s not ever going to happen, and you can quote me on it

Just fulfilling my obligations here. Costs and more info will be out with the patch notes. Enjoy!

Just remember when pricing the items out, not all of us are stuffed with senseless badges…..

Hehe. I’m guessing they priced them as close as possible to the time investment required in obtaining Ascended items via other means. That said, I’m betting each piece is going to be priced somewhere between 500 and 1,000 badges.

Too bad I recently spent a bunch of badges gearing my Necro and re-gearing my Engi to condi damage. Ah well, I can always farm more, not to mention the 100 laurels I’m sitting on.

500 to 1000? Dang, that is going to take some time for a dipthong like me…

It IS BiS gear, so yeah.. it should take time. Sitting on almost 2 rows of badges in my bank, really hoping to get rid of some of these.

BiS? Does not compute.

Best in Slot

Sorry about that… thanks for the assist Liq.

It should be difficult to get. I do hope they add Valk and other missing Ascended items in this patch.

Any word on that Devon?

@ hickeroar – we are both wrong lol. almost 9 months, aug 28 so when these hit it will be the exact 9 month mark. This is stuff that should have been added with its PvE counter-part.. not 4-5 months later.

Runamok.9638:

Commanding the militia is not for the impatient or feint of heart. Every time you command a militia it is different. Sometimes things go well, and sometimes well, Stonemist happens!

These things are always certain when commanding the militia.
1. A good % will not listen or follow.
2. You will be providing WvW 101 lessons.
3. At some point you will get frustrated.
4. These are true no matter what server you are on.

Highlandrias you have been commanding the milita a lot. Don’t burn yourself out. Ive seen it happen to many commanders on ET. When frustrated take a break, definitely don’t take it out on your troops. We are all in this together. Or go take them to do something silly stupid, like kill Crimson Moas!

There is a reason why good commanders tend to form/join and run WvW guilds. They get tired of the unpredictability of the militia. They go and join large WvW focused guilds to command their forces. This is the problem here, and why I went up to a higher tier for a while. On ET this is hard since well we don’t really have a large hardcore WvW guild. That is what I want. KWBH would sort of maybe almost fit that mold but they are leaving. Personally I would like a mix of militia commanding and guild commanding. Variety is the spice of life.

So what do you do on ET? I think that all that can be done is go and recruit some known hardcore/quality WvW players and build it. Advance the quality of forces; class composition, builds, advanced tactics, teamspeak required, 4/7 nightly WvW runs, etc etc… I think there have been some attempts at doing this, but nothing with any real traction. This is a really rally tough task on ET, but it may be able to be done.

Or you just run with a small 5-10 man force and run havock…which can be fun but large scale WvW planning is a whole other beast.

+700?

PS: High – join FoE…

You’ve been doing a good job. Like 1AB said, don’t get burnt out, see it happen way too much in T1 on SoS and BG.

Hickeroar.9734:

Srsly though, guys. Even if all changes aren’t well received, it’s really great to see WvW getting some love lately. Keep up the great work.

It was pretty much ignored for 10 months… in which a very high % of hardcore pvpers left the game… hopefully this is not a case of too little too late.

Naffy.1493:

Liquid.9672:

Naffy.1493:

DevonCarver.5370:

Cottage Pie.6215:

you’ll never be able to buy ascended items for badges.

1) badges are kitten easy to get on high tiers, this is so you can buy lots of siege.
2) waaaay too many people are stuffed senseless with badges and are too selfish too buy lots of siege and want rewards for themselves, aka ascended items.

It’s not ever going to happen, and you can quote me on it

Just fulfilling my obligations here. Costs and more info will be out with the patch notes. Enjoy!

Just remember when pricing the items out, not all of us are stuffed with senseless badges…..

Hehe. I’m guessing they priced them as close as possible to the time investment required in obtaining Ascended items via other means. That said, I’m betting each piece is going to be priced somewhere between 500 and 1,000 badges.

Too bad I recently spent a bunch of badges gearing my Necro and re-gearing my Engi to condi damage. Ah well, I can always farm more, not to mention the 100 laurels I’m sitting on.

500 to 1000? Dang, that is going to take some time for a dipthong like me…

It IS BiS gear, so yeah.. it should take time. Sitting on almost 2 rows of badges in my bank, really hoping to get rid of some of these.

The beauty of GW2 is the exp you get at lvl 2 and lvl 80 is the EXACT SAME (in terms of % of a level). There was a graph around release that showed it.

Fake numbers:
lvl 2 meta event: 20% of level – 800exp
lvl 80 meta event: 20% of level – 10,000 exp

DanteZero.9736:

SkylightMoon.1980:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Not sure how I feel about the WvW changes… if we need laurels for the Asc gear, that would not be cool. New matchups might stink as well, seeing as how the disparity between tiers is kind of high, blow outs might be more likely this way.

“Just speak to the new Laurel and Badge Merchants on each map.”, you should be able to earn it through badges as well. My server definitely needs a new match up. Ive played SoS and SBI for like a month now.

As part of SBI, I agree with that statement. I’m tired of the current match up and I wouldn’t mind new servers for once. I’m just waiting for an SoS player to come in and insult/troll either one of us any moment now (had that happen to me in several other forums I frequent).

I feel for y’all, I do. We’ve all been a part of those matches. ET (current server) has no chance if we are matched up against anyone but FC/HoD, even at that it’s rough. If we are put up against any other servers, boring weeks will be had. I just hope they did it right rather than rushed a fix because of complainers, is all.

Naffy.1493:

DevonCarver.5370:

Cottage Pie.6215:

you’ll never be able to buy ascended items for badges.

1) badges are kitten easy to get on high tiers, this is so you can buy lots of siege.
2) waaaay too many people are stuffed senseless with badges and are too selfish too buy lots of siege and want rewards for themselves, aka ascended items.

It’s not ever going to happen, and you can quote me on it

Just fulfilling my obligations here. Costs and more info will be out with the patch notes. Enjoy!

Just remember when pricing the items out, not all of us are stuffed with senseless badges…..

Don’t worry. I’m sure they threw a pointless laurel requirement as well.

EDIT: And if they didn’t, I’ll send Devon a box a Girl Scout cookies.

Not sure how I feel about the WvW changes… if we need laurels for the Asc gear, that would not be cool. New matchups might stink as well, seeing as how the disparity between tiers is kind of high, blow outs might be more likely this way.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

I feel like it would be a good idea to add “expeditions to metas” which start in the main cities of the races. Let me explain:

• There is a area in each city where criers-NPCs announce the next upcoming Meta-Event. There are much more than people know.
• The crier has a countdown-UI when his expedition starts. This UI is shown in each main city.
• When the expedition starts the crier creates a portal to the zone where the next Meta Event starts.
• The portal would bring you to the border of that map, people would run behind him – like the breakout-events in the WvW maps.

This would make the external dragon-timers redundant since you’d have an announcement-system in the game which leads to the next upcoming Metaevent. People would learn to know new Meta-Events which they haven’t seen before.

I like this. If the dragon events where more like the temple events, I wouldn’t feel like “hey I waited for xx minutes, now give me my chest”, I’d actually feel like I earned the dang thing…

I like to think of it as a cruise ship, you get off at a port and there are people with signs for expeditions. If the main cities offered different expeditions lead by NPCs where groups could enter their name, then when the expedition for say The Shatterer starts, they go thru part of the zone or zones leading up to it completing separate events to draw out the dragon. Other, smaller meta events, could offer the same, free tele with a decent chain leading up to the main event.

Longer and better meta events = more fun, more loot and more working together and less of this OMG YOU GUESTER GTFO

I don’t think we need more meta events per se, we just need better ways to access the current events. Most people don’t know where they are or when they start, that’s why it seems like their are only 6-7 metas events.

Holding SM was fun, Arrow carts are so friggin OP

Julie Yann.5379:

I don’t see how 1 free transfer to a new account would drastically affect WvW. It’s not like 400 players will instantly move from 1 server to the next.

It already happens… monthly.. and with PAID transfers and you think with a free transfer the same wouldn’t happen? That’s funny…

Look at IRON/AGG/EMP/Axis of Insurrection (5 guilds)/OMEN/MERC/ND.. All LARGE WvW oriented guilds that have transferred 40+ members each during PAID transfers. All these moves caused inbalance in the match ups.

Are you asking if you can take the rare cultural armor and transmute it onto exotic armor of another stat set? Yes. Just keep the skin.

Gravy.7589:

The fun will really begin once/if JQ drops out of tier 1. Thats when all the rats jump ship.

SoS 2.0

On jumping ship: “If you ain’t first, you’re last.”

In reality, you gotta do what you need to keep your guild alive. Without any substantial WvW updates in 8 months, players have to take it into their own hands to keep themselves happy.. hence transfers.

paladini.7823:

Thats the reason to exist the unmaned buff.
Capping the amount of players per map wont happen, but you could ask for something different, which wont impact the entrance of people at Wx3 maps.

Like base the unmaned buff duo to a scaled buff.

E.G:.
You have 20 ppl at map, enemy server has 40ppl = unmaned buff active
You have 20 ppl at map, enemy server has 65ppl = doubled unmaned buff active
You have 15 ppl at map, enemy server has 80ppl = tripled unmaned buff active

Got the idea, ask Anet to scale the unmaned buff. They wont cap people to play wx3 because one server dont have enough people, its not those 2 other servers if your server dont have ppl for it (no intention to be rude).

Completely agree. ANet’s stance since Day 1 as been “WvW is a 24/7 game”, not having numbers or having numbers is a part of the game. They will not “soft-cap” or create “primetime” matches. WvW in a sense is designed to be a coverage game, if you don’t have the manpower, why should the other server be kitten because it does? Should Army 1 only bring 20 tanks and 20 aircraft with 10k troops to invade another country because they have fewer resources? No.

Panda.1967:

LilMcGinley.3890:

lookitsandrea.8531:

It may just be me, but I don’t really see the “delete all characters for a free transfer” as a fair argument. That new player should be allowed to play with friends without a penalty – this would allow that (and I know, guesting would as well). As for the WvW… I don’t see this messing that up. It was problematic before because people were transferring, for free, every week. This is just one free transfer most likely for new players who may not have even tried WvW yet. Anyway, just a suggestion!

EDIT: Yes, I’m aware new players can pick a server. However, in order to play, they must pick a server that isn’t full. I’m on Tarnished Coast, and my sister would like to join me there… However, TC is almost always full (It took me quite a while to find an open spot before snagging it). If she wants to play the game, she’ll have to settle with a server she doesn’t want and then rely on guesting. The free transfer could be for players like that – that one time chance to change their server.

He said its a new account, deleting characters on a new account is WAY easier than deleting characters that are 8 months old. Transfers are a part of the game.

Any kind of free xfer aside deleting characters would create a HUGE uproar in the WvW community and I don’t think ANet would want that. I don’t know how “you cant see that messing it up”.. Free transfers DESTROYED any kind of longevity or stability in servers for a very long time. Look at all of the servers that rose/fell, KA, SoS, ET, HoD, DB just to name a few.. all products of free transfers.

Ok, I’m going to say this one time and one time only.

Free transfers only ruined WvW because they were able to * REPEATEDLY* transfer. People used this to switch back and forth to insure they were on the leading server for WvW. The damage from this was done and is still being felt today because people swarmed the top servers when they could.

However, ONE TIME ONLY free transfers WILL NOT recreate this. This will only permit you to transfer once, period. Once you transfer you can’t change again unless you buy a transfer. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to ABUSE a one time only transfer.

In-fact, until reading this thread I was under the impression that they had settled on one time only transfers.

To OP: Sorry for going crazy off topic with the WvW stuff, we’ve laid out the available options to transfer or simply use guesting..

No way to abuse it? Sure, but what happens to WvW if you open 1 free tranfer? Chaos.

You must think about WvW on a MACRO scale. What happens if 1 free transfer is announced? Many guilds will look for other places to play, this creates FoTM server and servers who do not have the WvW population for their current tier. Perfect examples of this include SoS (after FoE/AGG/Merc/ND and AoI left) and KA when War Machine left SBI to join them, don’t forget what happened to JQ after free transfers were announced to be ending. You get 2-3 months of LOPSIDED matches, which no one enjoys. Yes, you can’t “abuse” the system by server hopping but you destroy any kind of the stability servers have at the current moment.

I hope I explained that the best I could. Even 1 free transfer will ruin WvW because of the LARGE WvW guilds that will jump to a new server (mostly lower tiers) and create a vacuum at the top where unbalanced matches will become the norm again.

Also, what happens in 5-6 months when all the people who just bought the game ask for a free transfer as well? Are we going to set a precedent of allowing a free transfer to everyone every 6 months? You don’t transfer for the PvE, you transfer for the WvW.

With that being said, I conclude my side of the discussion. Best of luck OP.

lookitsandrea.8531:

It may just be me, but I don’t really see the “delete all characters for a free transfer” as a fair argument. That new player should be allowed to play with friends without a penalty – this would allow that (and I know, guesting would as well). As for the WvW… I don’t see this messing that up. It was problematic before because people were transferring, for free, every week. This is just one free transfer most likely for new players who may not have even tried WvW yet. Anyway, just a suggestion!

EDIT: Yes, I’m aware new players can pick a server. However, in order to play, they must pick a server that isn’t full. I’m on Tarnished Coast, and my sister would like to join me there… However, TC is almost always full (It took me quite a while to find an open spot before snagging it). If she wants to play the game, she’ll have to settle with a server she doesn’t want and then rely on guesting. The free transfer could be for players like that – that one time chance to change their server.

He said its a new account, deleting characters on a new account is WAY easier than deleting characters that are 8 months old. Transfers are a part of the game.

Any kind of free xfer aside deleting characters would create a HUGE uproar in the WvW community and I don’t think ANet would want that. I don’t know how “you cant see that messing it up”.. Free transfers DESTROYED any kind of longevity or stability in servers for a very long time. Look at all of the servers that rose/fell, KA, SoS, ET, HoD, DB just to name a few.. all products of free transfers.

Delete all characters -> free transfer.

You can’t open free transfers because of WvW will be screwed up again.

New account can PICK their server btw…

Well yeah… my guild runs the zergball strat and yeah, we farm people. We like to PvP not PvDoor. You are correct, my estimate is on the high end, but it does show that it is possible.

My only point about the badges → clovers is equally the cost of doing it the original way to the “new” way, being that farming Gold + Shards + Ectos + Coins in terms of time and Gold.

I really wish ANet creates other ways to get the “important” parts of a Legendary. I just don’t think clovers need to be changed and if they do, needs to be equally hard.

PS: now I really friggin want McDonalds..

off/on topic.. how is the actual map? Is it just the same like the old one after you went through the portal? Can we start blocking off sections fro GvG and duels?