Guild Wars 2

Dardamaniac.1295:

The truth is somewhere in the middle..Its not that they dont care about pvp,hate us and want to torture us..But still i cant ignore the fact that they dont give us pvp qol improvements very often, as often as in pve at least..A new map aint something new for pvp, changing some secondary objects aint gonna change the main conquest strategy..Builds stay the same,roles are too linear,classes cant try new things cause they depend to much in certain traits-traitlines-skills…Portal, empathetic bond, arcane power traitline, stand your ground guardian skill….these are some of the examples…Things that are too strong and they are not leaving room for other things to replace em.My biggest complain about pvp is that i cant try out new skills, new traits without being killed by someone who just copy pasted a build

Actually I’d say condi necros got some place for customization. There are 3-4 viable main condi setups (for example, 30/30/0/0/10, 30/20/0/0/20 or 0/20/20/0/30) and loads of useful traits within each line.

Dustfinger.9510:

Charr were bad, humans were good. End of story.

No. Genocide, killing women and children, burning them alive → bad.

On the topic:

Ascalonians were there almost since the gods brought them to Tyria. They built a kingdom. Then, savages (aka charr) came back with some extra help from a god after not caring for 1,300 years.

Ascalon isn’t ancestral charr alnd, they’ve claimed it from the Forgotten → ones that gave Orr to the humans and let them take Ascalon from the charr.

I would take part in retaking it for sure! But that won’t happen. However.. there are chances that roughly 30% of Ascalon can go back to human hands, from Ebonhawke to Drascir + some lands over the brand below Ashford. I would be fine with that. For now.

Best:

1. - Mad King – my fav since GW1, and the Scythe staff and Grinning shield.. awesome
2. - Molten Facility – I’m a PvP player, a species that’s going extinct soon, but i really enjoyed this bossfight. I went there only to take part in it. Once after a party wipe I even tried to solo both bosses after being the last man standing
3. - Queen’s Jubilee – the new area in DR is splendid.
4. - Wintersday – I really missed the human Gods and I just loath the asura, but loved the puzzle and the minigame where I had to defend the dolyaks – too bad the rewards were.. bad
5. - Bazaar – the only spot of magic on the techno-junk of the living story’s past year – also some nod to.. Cantha? >_>

Worst:

1. sab – this total lore and gamebreaker doesn’t even deserve capital letters. It was fun for an april fool’s day, but the fact that you can bring the weapons out and making this a pretty frequent content, giving it ties to the world………. OMKormir
2. Cutthroath Politics – could’ve been the best idea ever and my fav part of the living story, I was really excited about it – but players shouldn’t decide about which content pack they want – players who play fractals or GW1 mostly voted for Evon for the fall of Abaddon, while casuals were voting for the cheaper WP costs and the RNG hate… it was like deciding between world peace and new quaggan plush toy – not about world peace or war / bluew or brown quaggan backpack – I hope this makes sense
3. - Scarlet
4. - Technology technology and technology, asuras and charrs only, we never use magic to handle situations
5. The Scarlet content yet to come

Divinity.8041:

Gandarel.5091:

Remove glorygain from hotjoin, add unrated tournament. Or only reward the winner team.

Last week in soloque i told my team that someone should take close back. Noone listened, so i went for it. Told them that I will win this, defend mid. At the moment when i managed to get the ranger downed, all 4 teammates arrived to stomp the ranger. Even our bunker guard.

This is so true…I cringe when this happens.

I laughed out loud when reading this. It is a shame this happened in YOLOq.

There should be an IQ test req. for tournaments.

Sirendor.1394:

IF you bring cantha, don’t make us grind from level 1-80. kitten leveling altogether.

I don’t think another 20-30 level 80-only zones would work well.

It’s the e-sport level. Get used to it!

Remove glorygain from hotjoin, add unrated tournament. Or only reward the winner team.

Last week in soloque i told my team that someone should take close back. Noone listened, so i went for it. Told them that I will win this, defend mid. At the moment when i managed to get the ranger downed, all 4 teammates arrived to stomp the ranger. Even our bunker guard.

Dustfinger.9510:

Did we get new lore on Cantha?

No, that’s still not a charr land. You can move on.

Let me re-phrase what I want to say:

How many times did anyone on our side used some great magical spell to solve a problem?

Elidath.5679:

Konig: you merely acknowledged that tech exist and is used, which wasn’t in question to begin with.
Basically:
- Gandarel: non tech thing won’t happen evar in LS because ANet has tech fetish.
- Me: not true. They often use tech, due to convenience, but we seldom has tech as an important LS point, and real new tech only had 2 updates focusing on it. Nothing point to a “fetish” and an impossibility of seer presence.
- You: no, tech is present in every update.

I don’t know how to put it without sounding like a jerk (and I probably already do, which I apologize for), but really, you missed my point entirely.

Tell me 1, just 1 example in the past 1 year of living story where magic was involved. (no, megalasers don’t belong there). And more magic than Braham using guardian shield #5.

On the other hand, we had weapon facilities, dredge suits, golems, megalasers, terminator invasions from another steam-punk reality, steam-creatures, aetherblades, skyships and so on.

Also, we got 3 dungeons so far, all of them entirely tech-based.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Brando.1374:

Allie Murdock.8152:

If you compare it to other games right now, it’s pretty low, but not bad! There’s definitely some room for improvement, and we’re talking about ways we can help with that for future tournaments.

Re posting this as it is a valid Idea.

How about a 15v15 GvG tournament?
all we will need is an arena where we we can use out WvW armor/accessories/food. I dont think that will be to hard to do.
I can name at least 10 guilds (10×15 = 150 players) that would jump on this tournament in a heartbeat!

just think about all the views this can get, its a win win for both sides

WvW guys always make me lol.. you guys would wipe in a blink of an eye in an actual PvP situation, and use the huge numbers (15v15) to shield you.

Also, Guild DeathZergmatch isn’t GvG. For educational purposes, this is GvG: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gvg

If ArenaNet would actually make a real GvG, most of theWvW guys couldn’t get to the top 1k… I bet.

Fun fact: GW1’s competitive GvG scene had more than 10k dedicated players. And it was only 1 gamemode. Your 150 is pretty meaningless.

Say GvGers are bad and cant get into the top 1k…. person saying this isnt even in the top 1k… Funny

Even funnier that I myself now GvG, I was a top PvP on a top NA team. So yea… your opinion is wrong.

I’m talking about a top 1k GvG ladder.

And try searching in EU. I am at 97% Team Arena because my team stopped 4 months ago and ladder decay got me down from the top 200. 63% winrate.

But atm I’m still top 200 soloque.

One hell of ladder decay… I stopped over a month ago and I have dropped to 400 from 150. Certainly not 800 spots.

Also SoloQ, lol. Ok.

Y soloque is luck based (and i am unlucky as hell). But you, despite playing a ranger (i assume spirit).. I’m amazed you aren’t shown.

Im not shown of SoloQ (I assume there is where you are looking) because after going 4-1 and having no real effect on the outcome of the match I just stopped playing it and went back to team queue.

Most likely went back to Zergmatch instead.

Someone not familiar with the NA team scene… are they… Wow.

Yes I should watch the NA mediocore scene all day all night :P

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Brando.1374:

Allie Murdock.8152:

If you compare it to other games right now, it’s pretty low, but not bad! There’s definitely some room for improvement, and we’re talking about ways we can help with that for future tournaments.

Re posting this as it is a valid Idea.

How about a 15v15 GvG tournament?
all we will need is an arena where we we can use out WvW armor/accessories/food. I dont think that will be to hard to do.
I can name at least 10 guilds (10×15 = 150 players) that would jump on this tournament in a heartbeat!

just think about all the views this can get, its a win win for both sides

WvW guys always make me lol.. you guys would wipe in a blink of an eye in an actual PvP situation, and use the huge numbers (15v15) to shield you.

Also, Guild DeathZergmatch isn’t GvG. For educational purposes, this is GvG: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gvg

If ArenaNet would actually make a real GvG, most of theWvW guys couldn’t get to the top 1k… I bet.

Fun fact: GW1’s competitive GvG scene had more than 10k dedicated players. And it was only 1 gamemode. Your 150 is pretty meaningless.

Say GvGers are bad and cant get into the top 1k…. person saying this isnt even in the top 1k… Funny

Even funnier that I myself now GvG, I was a top PvP on a top NA team. So yea… your opinion is wrong.

I’m talking about a top 1k GvG ladder.

And try searching in EU. I am at 97% Team Arena because my team stopped 4 months ago and ladder decay got me down from the top 200. 63% winrate.

But atm I’m still top 200 soloque.

One hell of ladder decay… I stopped over a month ago and I have dropped to 400 from 150. Certainly not 800 spots.

Also SoloQ, lol. Ok.

Y soloque is luck based (and i am unlucky as hell). But you, despite playing a ranger (i assume spirit).. I’m amazed you aren’t shown.

Im not shown of SoloQ (I assume there is where you are looking) because after going 4-1 and having no real effect on the outcome of the match I just stopped playing it and went back to team queue.

Most likely went back to Zergmatch instead.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Brando.1374:

Allie Murdock.8152:

If you compare it to other games right now, it’s pretty low, but not bad! There’s definitely some room for improvement, and we’re talking about ways we can help with that for future tournaments.

Re posting this as it is a valid Idea.

How about a 15v15 GvG tournament?
all we will need is an arena where we we can use out WvW armor/accessories/food. I dont think that will be to hard to do.
I can name at least 10 guilds (10×15 = 150 players) that would jump on this tournament in a heartbeat!

just think about all the views this can get, its a win win for both sides

WvW guys always make me lol.. you guys would wipe in a blink of an eye in an actual PvP situation, and use the huge numbers (15v15) to shield you.

Also, Guild DeathZergmatch isn’t GvG. For educational purposes, this is GvG: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gvg

If ArenaNet would actually make a real GvG, most of theWvW guys couldn’t get to the top 1k… I bet.

Fun fact: GW1’s competitive GvG scene had more than 10k dedicated players. And it was only 1 gamemode. Your 150 is pretty meaningless.

Say GvGers are bad and cant get into the top 1k…. person saying this isnt even in the top 1k… Funny

Even funnier that I myself now GvG, I was a top PvP on a top NA team. So yea… your opinion is wrong.

I’m talking about a top 1k GvG ladder.

And try searching in EU. I am at 97% Team Arena because my team stopped 4 months ago and ladder decay got me down from the top 200. 63% winrate.

But atm I’m still top 200 soloque.

One hell of ladder decay… I stopped over a month ago and I have dropped to 400 from 150. Certainly not 800 spots.

Also SoloQ, lol. Ok.

Y soloque is luck based (and i am unlucky as hell). But you, despite playing a ranger (i assume spirit).. I’m amazed you aren’t shown.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Brando.1374:

Allie Murdock.8152:

If you compare it to other games right now, it’s pretty low, but not bad! There’s definitely some room for improvement, and we’re talking about ways we can help with that for future tournaments.

Re posting this as it is a valid Idea.

How about a 15v15 GvG tournament?
all we will need is an arena where we we can use out WvW armor/accessories/food. I dont think that will be to hard to do.
I can name at least 10 guilds (10×15 = 150 players) that would jump on this tournament in a heartbeat!

just think about all the views this can get, its a win win for both sides

WvW guys always make me lol.. you guys would wipe in a blink of an eye in an actual PvP situation, and use the huge numbers (15v15) to shield you.

Also, Guild DeathZergmatch isn’t GvG. For educational purposes, this is GvG: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gvg

If ArenaNet would actually make a real GvG, most of theWvW guys couldn’t get to the top 1k… I bet.

Fun fact: GW1’s competitive GvG scene had more than 10k dedicated players. And it was only 1 gamemode. Your 150 is pretty meaningless.

Say GvGers are bad and cant get into the top 1k…. person saying this isnt even in the top 1k… Funny

Even funnier that I myself now GvG, I was a top PvP on a top NA team. So yea… your opinion is wrong.

I’m talking about a top 1k GvG ladder.

And try searching in EU. I am at 97% Team Arena because my team stopped 4 months ago and ladder decay got me down from the top 200. 63% winrate.

But atm I’m still top 200 soloque.

I can’t bealieve you are talking about this nonsense in a totally serious way.

Kralkatorrik offers peace, it’s like “What if a hurricane offers peace for the East coast and attacks the West?!”

GW1 and real lore > dragons > living story

Margonites were humans who followed Abaddon and abandoned the other gods. So the second point is not really true.

Brando.1374:

Allie Murdock.8152:

If you compare it to other games right now, it’s pretty low, but not bad! There’s definitely some room for improvement, and we’re talking about ways we can help with that for future tournaments.

Re posting this as it is a valid Idea.

How about a 15v15 GvG tournament?
all we will need is an arena where we we can use out WvW armor/accessories/food. I dont think that will be to hard to do.
I can name at least 10 guilds (10×15 = 150 players) that would jump on this tournament in a heartbeat!

just think about all the views this can get, its a win win for both sides

WvW guys always make me lol.. you guys would wipe in a blink of an eye in an actual PvP situation, and use the huge numbers (15v15) to shield you.

Also, Guild DeathZergmatch isn’t GvG. For educational purposes, this is GvG: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gvg

If ArenaNet would actually make a real GvG, most of theWvW guys couldn’t get to the top 1k… I bet.

Fun fact: GW1’s competitive GvG scene had more than 10k dedicated players. And it was only 1 gamemode. Your 150 is pretty meaningless.

Elidath.5679:

Gandarel.5091:

Did the Seers use very advanced technology? Nope. From this moment, you can bury your hopes to see them again. Arenanet has a terminator/clockwork/laser-feitsh nowadays.

The Bazaar of the Four Wind would like to disagree with you.

That’s 1 in 9 months. And actually there were Aetherblade attacks on the Bazaar.

Did the Seers use very advanced technology? Nope. From this moment, you can bury your hopes to see them again. Arenanet has a terminator/clockwork/laser-feitsh nowadays.

Skeub.6740:

really persuasive method gg

People start here from r1… it’s just sad, so sad.

Funda.7216:

I think its been great and have enjoyed each release. People have been complaining from both ends half wanting complex stories told and the other wants things wrapped up every month. How many TV series have a fantastic first season? Things take time to build, to meet characters. Scarlets been in one episode and people complain that the character hasn’t been developed.

People have complained that the stories are disjointed when we haven’t seen the whole arc, scarlets motivations, why things that didn’t seem important might end up being critical. We are halfway through season 1 and the villian behind the first half was just introduced, I want to see how it plays out.

Speaking about story, we shall count GW1, so it’s definitely not a 1st season. More like 9th.

MLG usually has around 100 viewers. Not so e-sport.

milo.6942:

Gandarel.5091:

Edo Tensei.8254:

didnt Arenanet make it that you can only sign up Team Arena when you have a full group with 5 Players so you only fight Premade vs Premade?

now you can sign up again alone or in 2er or 3er or 4er Group in Team Arena , did Arenanet remove the requirement of 5er Group to sign up or is it just a bug?

I think you were always able to join solo to a team-join format since they removed free and paid tournaments. (9 months ago or so)

But they said there will be a point (I think after LFG is out of beta) that only teams of 5 can join.

speaking of the lfg tool, i heard there was no way to accept/deny people that want to join your group, it’s just auto-join. which sounds absolutely terrible. hope there are plans to fix that

Ah yeah. i hope it’s only like this in the BETA-version. Yesterday we spent 2 minutes kicking players from out party who just randomly joined, they didn’t even care that they can’t fill the role we were looking for. They were just flooding in like zombies.

Edo Tensei.8254:

didnt Arenanet make it that you can only sign up Team Arena when you have a full group with 5 Players so you only fight Premade vs Premade?

now you can sign up again alone or in 2er or 3er or 4er Group in Team Arena , did Arenanet remove the requirement of 5er Group to sign up or is it just a bug?

I think you were always able to join solo to a team-join format since they removed free and paid tournaments. (9 months ago or so)

But they said there will be a point (I think after LFG is out of beta) that only teams of 5 can join.

Soyboy.3548:

One way they could get rid of this problem is just make it as easy to level to 80 in pvp as it is in pve. This would penalize the exploiters for investing all that time exploiting the past few months. Obviously the best way is to just remove all exploited rank acquired, but for some reason, MMOs don’t ever take this approach (upset a few people to please the masses)

I would like to have a shark/phoenix finisher too, with 20 slot bags, with cool armor skins, but currently the only people who have these exploited.

Actually PvP rank was never intended to be the same as PvE level. r80 is a very long-term goal. An almost eternal road to walk.

In GW1, only 7-9 players managed to max a PvP rank (we had many ranks for different gamemodes, and nobody managed to max all of them). And that game is more than 8 years old.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

(just because it’s not human-centric doesn’t mean the humans have to be wrong about everything, ya know…).

This. It’s rather becoming anti-human centric and asura-centric.

I totally hate the asura race now. Even at the time i was amazed during the bazaar content, in the second minute i heard a dialog about a Zephyrite telling about their culture to an asura, and the asura, with the tone you use when you talk to someone mentally kittened, said" Aaaaah, so it’s the eternal alchemy, just in much more primitive approach" – i loath them. They destroy the atmoshpere as always.

Anyone who is not an asura is trash. It’s not just what all the asuras think, but what the game wants us to feel like.

Most likely just cover it. GW2 is too shiny and full of rainbows to make your second version happen anyways (not like I want it to happen at all).

Probably symbolizes that “truth is blind” – just like Kormir, goddess of truth.

If I talk about the lack of magic in the world I talk about things like.. can you tell me a single magic academy in GW2? (no, asura colleges aren’t different).

Like Nolani, Drascir, Ascalon Academy in GW1.

Lithril Ashwalker.6230:

hotjoin in casual browsers shouldnt be punished…and neither should single hot join tournaments, not everyone wants to form a party of OP classes to get win after win, and i personally dont want to face them and get rolled everytime. there still isnt a rank seperation from a team of r 1-12 ending up fighting ranks 40-50’s…and its pathetic to give the high ranking guys favor over this because its not a challenge. underdogs get the short end of the stick in tournaments. browsers are a way people can move up in rank or whatever, if im headed to work and want a quick game but a good chunk of rank/glory, im sure as hell not going to sit in a queue for a tourney JUST for rank.

Basically you are afraid to improve yourself i guess. You won’t be magically as good as an r50 players if you grind your way in hotjoin. You will still be playing like an r10.

Hotjoin is nice to learn your skills, the map, enemy skills, but you will never learn tactics, true gameplay or how to think. However, you are still getting rewarded better than ones who do know these things…

Demonts.4593:

The PvP is good in this game. Unfortunately all the PvP community can do is call for nerfs and complain about the game… We are the problem right now

Maybe if everyone has been complaining for more than a year about basic concepts perhaps the problem isn’t with the community…

I’d love the idea of the Living Story. If this would be actually interesting. But we get content designed for 8 years olds. The only thing i loved to far is the opening ceremony of the Queen’s Jubelee patch and the MF dungeon endboss counter. The first had a good atmosphere, the second had a very good fight. But that’s all.

Harbinger.8637:

Yeah the birthday booster was terrible. 10k glory per match? Did anet punish those people? Of course not, but if it was some gold or karma exploit they would be all over the bans.

Moral of the story anet doesn’t care about pvp, but I think we all know this.

Well to defend the booster a bit, since players can’t remove the birthday boost from themselves, should they afk for 24 hours? That was a big fail and many abused it, but I don’t think that is bannable.

Rednik.3809:

Gandarel.5091:

The problem is, all these slow fixes just either slow them or make them find a new method. They will just find a way to end a match faster, probably suicide jumps after reaching the cap.

The only solution is to remove glorygain from hotjoin.

People could still test builds and “have fun” – but since hotjoin only teaches wrong things to newcomers (like never defend a capture point, spam Aoe and move on, stay with zerg and so on), it shouldn’t give glory. I know it would only take 2 mins to make this change :P

This would also improve the arena population + people could only get ranks if they deserve it.

Such a “great” idea. Have fun with another 2-3 times sPvP population decline, lol, looks like you deserve it.

I wouldn’t consider hotjoin population “PvP population” at all. If hotjoin declines by 2-3 times or even 20 times, but tournament population (aka real PvP population) grows even just a bit, it’s worth it.

Adris.1859:

Phantom Master.9582:

Adris.1859:

I will treat that as first step to remove hot join. Why ? Because you (devs) defended hot joins saying, that casuals can jump in and out of the match when they want. Now they won’t gain anything if they jump out of the match so the whole concept just collapsed.

Why would you even dare to defend farming, just get out of here…
Disgusting farmers are the reason this thread started.

Where am I defending farm ? Enlighten me please. Im just pointing out kitten poor fixes. If I were to decide I would remove Skyhammer from Custom Arenas 2 months ago and then work on proper fix.

Then they would jump off from khylo clocktower or find other ways. Until there is a good environment for farming, there will be farmers.

True Scottish Pirate Metal → Alestorm

Phantom Master.9582:

Gandarel.5091:

The problem is, all these slow fixes just either slow them or make them find a new method. They will just find a way to end a match faster, probably suicide jumps after reaching the cap.

The only solution is to remove glorygain from hotjoin.

People could still test builds and “have fun” – but since hotjoin only teaches wrong things to newcomers (like never defend a capture point, spam Aoe and move on, stay with zerg and so on), it shouldn’t give glory. I know it would only take 2 mins to make this change :P

This would also improve the arena population + people could only get ranks if they deserve it.

The thing is some of us don’t enjoy conquest all that much and hate modifying our builds for conquest, so we play hot join the majority of the time because it feels more like a death match.

I would make that the fixed amount would be 100 glory for losing and 150 glory for winning the match, (150 glory for losing in tpvp, 300 glory for winning in tpvp), you are only eligible for the rewards after you have completed 5 tasks in the game to avoid farming.

Custom Arenas would award glory but not rank points.

Something like this would actually be a great idea. Give 100 points for winning hotjoin and 50 for losing. Or so. And no rank points for capping/killing/anything.

Deathmatch will be added soon i think btw.

#believeincountless

Bursties be with this list.

Allie Murdock.8152:

We’re changing it so that glory is only rewarded at the end of a match, which should stop the exploit where players leave and rejoin the match. We are also actively looking into other options to prevent this exploiting.

Thanks for the report!

The problem is, all these slow fixes just either slow them or make them find a new method. They will just find a way to end a match faster, probably suicide jumps after reaching the cap.

The only solution is to remove glorygain from hotjoin.

People could still test builds and “have fun” – but since hotjoin only teaches wrong things to newcomers (like never defend a capture point, spam Aoe and move on, stay with zerg and so on), it shouldn’t give glory. I know it would only take 2 mins to make this change :P

This would also improve the arena population + people could only get ranks if they deserve it.

Korsbaek.9803:

Gandarel.5091:

Korsbaek.9803:

charr can try claim or same can humans but in the end it will boil down to what the pact wants as they conquered the land from Zhietan and that is no matter the intent they had by killing him they still conquered hes kingdom and hes kingdom is at the time of hes death the land masses of orr.

so if the pact(currently the leaders of the oders and trehearn) see it as the pact gets more out of orr by holding it and setting up a goverment there then thats what they do and no race has any right to stop them unless they declare the pact war.

*Zhaitan
*his
*orders
*Trahearne

The Pact is a multinational organization, not a devouring warmachine. Pact never had any kind of territory, only some bases. They didn’t conquer Orr, they liberated it.

Its leader is the biggest goodguy in GW2, and a specialist in Orr and its history. He knows exactly that this land belongs to the humans, a race which the Sylvaries got a good relation with.

the diffrences between libareting something and conquer something is nothing but the eyes looking at it.
the pact is 3 organizations that are working together yes that is true but after the elder dragons defeat we dont know if the vigil will just disband or will hold some of the land it could from the conquering of the elder dragons lands, the priory could use the lands of the elder dragons to extend there research to.

there is nothing the races in general can do to stop that as its there land into they say that they give it to someone or the races declare war on the orders.

Can you actually show me the slightest sign of the pact acting like this? Ever?

Caine.8204:

Gandarel.5091:

Caine.8204:

NevirSayDie.6235:

Lordrosicky.5813:

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ryston.7640:

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Yasha.5963:

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Bingo!

I’m not interested in continuing some kind of shouting match.

The PvP in GW2 will not undergo a fundamental change for two reasons:
1. Making pre-alpha level changes after release is suicidal, and
2. PvP is already fun.

The community is the one part of PvP that I can honestly say has not improved since launch. Ironically, that’s the only part that we can actually change.

Exactly. I have fun playing. They have made a lot of changes regarding balance, but ultimately it’s up to the players to change the meta. They continue to make balance changes, slowly taking feedback and giving every profession the buffs they need to make them on-par with the other, stronger professions.

It takes awhile to add entirely new systems as well. It will take some time to put in the code for new PvP types. It will take some time to look at data regarding balance, and it will take some more time to adequately balance the game in a way that isn’t going to change the meta from Stunlock Warriors to something completely different.

Adapt to the meta. Spec for blinds and stun removals.

Yeah right. 14 months is such a short period, we can’t really expect anything to happen. And broken classes are so fine. Playing 2 class instead of 8 is just the way to go.

I play Guardian, Necro, Engie, Thief, Mesmer, and Ele actively.

Me too. Then if i want to win i roll nec.

Caine.8204:

NevirSayDie.6235:

Lordrosicky.5813:

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ryston.7640:

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Yasha.5963:

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Bingo!

I’m not interested in continuing some kind of shouting match.

The PvP in GW2 will not undergo a fundamental change for two reasons:
1. Making pre-alpha level changes after release is suicidal, and
2. PvP is already fun.

The community is the one part of PvP that I can honestly say has not improved since launch. Ironically, that’s the only part that we can actually change.

Exactly. I have fun playing. They have made a lot of changes regarding balance, but ultimately it’s up to the players to change the meta. They continue to make balance changes, slowly taking feedback and giving every profession the buffs they need to make them on-par with the other, stronger professions.

It takes awhile to add entirely new systems as well. It will take some time to put in the code for new PvP types. It will take some time to look at data regarding balance, and it will take some more time to adequately balance the game in a way that isn’t going to change the meta from Stunlock Warriors to something completely different.

Adapt to the meta. Spec for blinds and stun removals.

Yeah right. 14 months is such a short period, we can’t really expect anything to happen. And broken classes are so fine. Playing 2 class instead of 8 is just the way to go.

CETheLucid.3964:

Rouven.7409:

I like the mix.

Would be something to see a big golem pummeling Tequatl. Heh, who knows, the day might come …

Jormag’s general called. He said the rotter can have the lot of em’.

Also,

lordkrall.7241:

Fantasy != Medieval.

Steampunk is still considered fantasy, even if they use robots and other somewhat “modern” weapons.

This guy nailed it.
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Thank you for taking the effort to read and understand my point. I actually love steampunk. But megalasers and the imbalance between the amount of magic and technology is just insane.

Drakkon.4782:

Gandarel.5091:

lordkrall.7241:

So steampunk is not fantasy?

Megalasers aren’t steampunk. Terminators aren’t steampunk. Golems aren’t steampunk.

Yes, they are, yes, they are and yes, they are.

Steampunk is a style of presenting modern of high technology in an anachronistic manner. Typically it follows either an Edwardian or Victorian level of technology, incorporating clockworks, brass fittings, shiny buttons, glowing lights, and arcs of electricity and/or other types of energy.

So, using that as a base-line for “what is steampunk?”, Megalasers are Steampunk, Terminators (especially the clockworks we were fighting) are Steampunk, and Golems (particularly the way the Asuran Golems all glow and have bright shiny fittings) are most definitely Steampunk.

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I feel it important at this point in the discussion to bring up Clarke’s Third Law: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”, and it corollary: “Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.”

The only reason we look at Megalasers (Laser Cannons), Terminators (Combat Robots) and Golems (Power Armor) as heratical pieces of “ubertech that has no place in fantasy” is because we’ve been introduced to them in a technological manner, and we keep going back to thinking of them in those terms. Instead, what we really have are Amplified Light Cannons, Clockwork Automatons and Magically Amplified Body Armor. ANet went for the easiest to understand terms they could when creating the Megalasers and that was the problem that sets this whole argument up. That they keep going back to the well indicates that they haven’t gotten it into their heads that while Steampunk is very fantasy and is alright and all, we want to see more sword and sorcery stuff, too.

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Also, to clarify, Kryta has Catapults in every zones where we have Centaur (all of them, so…) which makes it 100% tech. Also, modern plumbing (more advanced than Roman aquaducts), fortified walls, modern building techniques. All very technological as opposed to magical.

Magumaa is 100% tech, as well, because of the Asura. Magitech, but tech nonetheless. The Sylvari use the most advanced technology of all: bio-organics. They grow their technology as plant life. They’re even more advanced than the Asura, even if they want to act like they don’t understand “technology”. They don’t understand inorganic technology is all. Bio-organics has a very sword and sorcery feel. It’s all very DnD druid.

Ascalon is 100% tech because of the Charr, thought he Charr are the only race that can be said to be 100% normal tech. Diesel engines, flamethrowers, rifles, pistols, etc. Modern-ish tech.

Of all the zones, Shiverpeaks is the only one where the technology level is very minimal. The Norn live in a world of magic and fantastic beasts, where dragons ravage their towns and threaten their very way of life, and horribly altered beasts, warped by dark magic and foul spells are an actual threat. This is the most “fantasy” zone of all. If you’re looking for traditional fantasy, this is your stop.

Every other zone is a mix of traditional high fantasy, medieval fantasy, steampunk and hypertech. Even Orr.

Entirely wrong. Steampunk is a fictional branch of technology without electricity, using clockwork and steam devices. Asuras are completely the opposite branch of technology, with flowing energy everywhere, using crytsals and stone.

And no I don’t want to afk 24/7 in the shiverpeaks (which has the dredge, inquest and the steam creatures FYI).

I want magic to somehow return to the story. And the amount of technology just alienates the norns from the events.

Korsbaek.9803:

charr can try claim or same can humans but in the end it will boil down to what the pact wants as they conquered the land from Zhietan and that is no matter the intent they had by killing him they still conquered hes kingdom and hes kingdom is at the time of hes death the land masses of orr.

so if the pact(currently the leaders of the oders and trehearn) see it as the pact gets more out of orr by holding it and setting up a goverment there then thats what they do and no race has any right to stop them unless they declare the pact war.

*Zhaitan
*his
*orders
*Trahearne

The Pact is a multinational organization, not a devouring warmachine. Pact never had any kind of territory, only some bases. They didn’t conquer Orr, they liberated it.

Its leader is the biggest goodguy in GW2, and a specialist in Orr and its history. He knows exactly that this land belongs to the humans, a race which the Sylvaries got a good relation with.

Poxxia.1547:

Consider this: If the gear-grind is insane, maybe you are looking at it the wrong way. Maybe the devs overlooked the importance of rewards, but perhaps some players can’t see anything but the reward. It becomes an absurd cycle.
Imagine if all ranks were removed, and only leaderboards existed … .

Yes, PvE guys who go to farm Skyhammer to show off in PvE definitely care about PvP skins.

99% do it for the rank. Best skins come from tournaments anyways.

Rednik.3809:

Gandarel.5091:

Or charrs should grow balls and fight like men.

Like humans you mean? Conquer with help in form of power from supernatural beings? Oh, the irony…

Balthazar only motivated the humans, while charrs got direct help.

Evan Lesh.3295:

We have more changes coming to further hinder this type of behavior.

Thank you for the reply.

But we don’t need further “hindering”, we need obliteration. And every day matters, we can’t wait another months.

Erwin.5603:

Not sure about rank 50 in 2 weeks statement

10k glory / hour. Calculate.

Writetyper.1985:

I think I missed the memo where rank means absolutely anything at all?

No you missed every single word i wrote but the title…