Guild Wars 2

Rednik.3809:

Gandarel.5091:

Only if:
-They are strong enought to kill him – if they fail, well, they are written off
-Someone in the Blood Legion of high ranks wants to overthrow him

Not everyone can go up to the current leader and just kill him. That’s chaos. And I doubt most of the Blood Legion would turn on his leader.

We killed Flame Imperator already, in CoF story, right in the center of his citadel. So it’s entirely possible. And Rytlock is already Blood Tribune, hence – legitimate pretender to Imperator title.

We killed Gaheron, that’s true, but the Flame Legion is hostile. Blood currently is not. And the Flame did not stop even after this happened. Nor did we became Imperators.

Allie Murdock.8152:

Gandarel.5091:

But on the otherhand, you barely do anything to prevent it. Slow mitigation is nothing.

It’s not as simple as hitting a switch. This issue has been one that we have had several discussions over. The problem is that many of the solutions are either too complex, or they hurt a portion of our player base, etc.

Also, we can’t say when/if we have a solution to the issue, because when we do we see a huge increase in players abusing it (at the beginning of the month, I said that we had a fix to help mitigate it, and we saw the numbers skyrocket).

You will just have to trust that we will protect the integrity of the game as soon as possible.

#believeinAllie :P

Btw (if not too complicated), how about trying a week when only the winning team gets the glory? If things go bad you restore the previous version. But I think this would also solve some other issues, with providing newcomers a palce where they can practice and are motivated to win without joining rated play.

ZilentNight.5089:

“Guild Wars Factions is the second stand-alone campaign of Guild Wars, released on April 28, 2006 in North America.”
I am guessing Anet has been hiding the fact that they will be opening the gates to Cantha on April 28, 2014.
We have all been told it wont be but lets be honest, we all know its coming just 6 months to wait now =)

GW2 is famouse about the failed high expectations. You should just forget Cantha and be happy if they bring it some years later.

Rednik.3809:

Killing your superior officer (especially if you can accuse him in as traitor) is acceptable way to rank up in Charr society. So no major civil war, just initial conflict, some story battles, making contact with Rytlock, preparations, Iron+Ash+Edge of Destiny (or Rox+Bhaham, or both, and player ofk) operation, Bangar killed by Rytlock, Rytlock is new Blood Imperator.

Only if:
-They are strong enought to kill him – if they fail, well, they are written off
-Someone in the Blood Legion of high ranks wants to overthrow him

Not everyone can go up to the current leader and just kill him. That’s chaos. And I doubt most of the Blood Legion would turn on his leader.

Bhawb.7408:

In 2 and a half hours, aka 12 noon PST.

Isn’t that the Halloween preview?

Rednik.3809:

Gandarel.5091:

Maybe hotjoin would be filled with less PvE guys. But probably soloque/team arena would see an increase in population.

70-90% decrease for hotjoin and maybe +15-20% increase for other modes. And in future – rapid overall sPvP population decline, because entry-level sPvP is obsolete now.
Such brilliant plan! Bravo!

Hotjoin is not entry-level. Hotjoin is “how not to do things” level. If you try to learn tactics from hotjoin you will be the worst player in the game.

Since hotjoin-only population is not PvP population, we would not suffer any decline. Also, why would there be a decline? because you are motivated to win?

So dungeons are empty because you have to complete it if you want the reward? They give you the reward for enetering and wiping, sometimes clearing 1-2 trash mob?

Urejt.5648:

ledder incoming
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Simple-ladder/first#post3015870
“What is most important, player’s place in division will be visable next to players’s name in form of an icon”

Source please.

PvP got nothing but really nothing in the past 13 months. Some maps. Thanks. Most of the people hate 3 of the 4 new maps and refuses to play them.

So if we would finally have a little care for PvP (which we seem to get now), please, please don’t take it away after a month.

Oh and we just don’t need more PvE farmers in PvP. They already ruined the whole rank/glory system and the rated matches.

I was also thinking about this. Would make a perfect story, both for the ones who hate the charr and the ones who love them.

Let’s say the Blood Legion tries to undermine the treaty. Maybe they would even try to assassinate the leaders of both the Iron Legion and Ebonhawke at the Peace Summit.

They do not succeed, and this new alliance consisting of Ascalon and the Legions declare war on the Blood Legion. Now they have a common enemy and reasons to fight side-by-side.

The Blood Legion offers an alliance to the (now weaker) Flame Legion, the the Blood will lead this time.

The Legions and the Vanguard foces could try to push the Blood back, making months-long war themed Living Story.

Humans could reclaim Drascir, their capital in the proccess, making a base the establish the New Kingdom of Ascalon. The next parts could focus on rebuilding the city and setting up an offense against the Blood. Maybe we could even use the ghosts to help us with Wade Samuelsson commanding them to battle with the reforged Magdaer. Or Logan.

Finally we would have a chance to fight the Blood Legion on their own homelands, introducing a new region.

This would forge a lasting peace and could help to ease the conflicts between the 2 sides.

I think something like this would be a better story than the whole GW2 + LS.

Rednik.3809:

Gandarel.5091:

give glory only to the winner team

Tron.7639:

There should be no Rank farm in Hot-Joins and its actually easy, just cap Rank gain to Level 10 in hot Joins and after that people just get Glory.

The 10+ rank should be left to SoloQ/TeamQ.

I always, wonder, why some people trying to switch indication on sPvP life status from “almost dead” to “completely dead”. You really hate your game mode, are you?

I always wonder why PvE guys like you only care for farming something. Maybe hotjoin would be filled with less PvE guys. But probably soloque/team arena would see an increase in population.

Hotjoin is not PvP. WvW is PvE. Accept this.

isendel.5049:

Honestly i don’t mind people getting high rank faster than i do. Especially when they suck at actual pvp. I earned my r34 in around 1k games and i feel i’m starting to get some nice skills here and there. I do almost only tpvp as of now and sometimes i found that i can literally perfect some r40+ players, even when i’m running strange builds that i just made up.

Rank means kitten, rank gives no rewards..what’s the problem in people farming it, when i can farm them?

What’s the problem with stealing 2 million dollars under a night while I can work for it 16 hours a day till the end of my life?

If rewards for glory will come, it will be totally worthless because of Skyhammer farmers.

Ranks are also worthless because of the farmers, not because Arenanet wanted it to be useless.

You made a crucial mistake. Mentioned GW1. So forget it.

But a HA would definitely help the GW2 PvP scene a lot. Would solve rewards, progression, motivation, variety and in 1 que.

If I leave the Pvp section and listen to other kind of suggestions, I start to totally understand why devs don’t listen to the community.

Wryog.5073:

Gandarel.5091:

style.6173:

Gandarel.5091:

So I think it’s official, Zerg vs Zerg is considered GvG. I don’t think 20v20 can be considered GvG or PvP. I think GvG would deserved an own gamemode and a ladder, but with this, the opportunity has gone away. It should be the PvP version of guild mission.

Thoughts?

I will never call that thing GvG.

Stop trying to define GvG yourself. GvG is two guilds who agree how many people should fight and then go and fight. If they want a small number, fine. If they want 20v20, fine. There are no rules on numbers.

The problem is that’s not even PvP. In a 20v20, does individual skill matter at all, Can you watch out for a mesmer raising up his gs summoning a berserker? No. You go spam AoE skills with your PvE build and then hope for lucky crits. You can’t do anything.

And GvG was defined in the GW universe nearly 9 years ago.

And PvP was defined way before that but you still use that wrong.
Hint: it means “Player(s) versus Player(s)”. Anything from 1v1 to ganking low levels in other games is PvP. It never meant “fair fight”, “skill-only stuff” or “esport material”. Stop putting your own meaning on words.

But in this case it means zerg vs zerg, since the individuals don’t matter, only a single mob.

PvP is PvE with players in zergs substitute the mobs. Most of them is clueless if they have to engage in 1v1. But there are exceptions.

coglin.1867:

Gandarel.5091:

I dare to say more than 50% of the GW2 playerbase came from GW1. Or at least 40%.

Honestly this mentality is one of the serious issues this game has. Sooooooo many posters have no concept of actual facts when compared to their presumption of things.

Considering GW2 sold 7 times more copies the GW did. you would need 3 times the population GW1 ever reached just to hit 40%-50% of the GW2 player base.

GW2 is a good game. It is not GW1 or a remake of it. It is a new game based on the same lore. It is a solid game, and one of the fastest selling MMOs for a very good reason. If you dislike the game as some of you in this thread appear to, then don’t play it. Its okay. Everyone cannot like everything. But some of the demands here are just ludicrous. Its like people would rather demand odd or insignificant changes to suit them personally, just to let the game fail because those wants are illogical to expect the general public to desire as well.

GW1 sold nearly 7 million copies, counting the expansions, while GW2 sold 3 millions. Since not everyone had all of them and Complete Collection (which has all) counts as one, I’d say the GW1 population was 2-3 million. And most of them bought GW2. I srsly couldn’t really find too many guys who who didn’t, except the few that still plays GW1. But even some of them bought it and went back.

You are the one who should get his facts right. Next 5 times you go into a random dungeon pug, ask who played GW1. You will be shocked.

“One of the fastest selling MMOs” – would have been impossible to achieve without GW1, because those players gave the base population.

And actually, the lore has been changed to match the new plot of GW2.

alcopaul.2156:

Skyhammer is like the IWAY of Guild Wars 1

“It made our rank useless. i Quit!!!!!!!!11111”

kittening deja vu. Reminds me of the old times. Hahahha.

“These IWAY players are getting tigers in no time. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkk!”.

Hahahhaha.

kittening epic. Life repeats itself indeed.

The difference is 90% of the Skyhammer farmers couldn’t even win as an IWAY.

So after 20 secs you would have a number like 30k.

What will happen within a week is that there will be 1 number/second (optional setting), so you can track your damage easier.

I don’t think they will remove rank. But their attitude to the problem still makes me hesitate mroe and more :P Mostly now as Arenanet gives resources for PvP.

Rubik.7192:

1. Skyhammer
2. Skyhammer
3. Skyhammer
4. Skyhammer
5. Skyhammer

Someone is farming too much. ^^.

Justin ODell.9517:

If we did remove ranks, we would probably give our players something to show off their achievement.

Farming not withstanding, we understand that many of our players have done a lot and we would never intentionally do anything to undermine that.

But on the otherhand, you barely do anything to prevent it. Slow mitigation is nothing.

Sorry for being harsh, but may i suggest something that would solve multiple problems?

In hotjoin, since glory is given at the end of the match now, give glory only to the winner team. This way, random zerging would stop, hotjoin could turn to be something where people can actually learn the basics, where they are motivated (and forced) to bring the right decisions. Currently it will only teach bad habits to newcomers and reward those bad habits and zergs ways better than rated arena players.

I think it would be easy and fast to do.

Gaurdian.4285:

oh, warrior is not so OP.
they have many skill that can stun foe, but only melee weapon have this mechanism,stun foe. You can insight into their obvious action to stun you and then “evade”. And do you know when hammer/mace,shield warrior encounter enemies up two, warrior just wait to dead and hard to run away. It is a tragedy.

Yes, a warrior with 11 sec condi immune and perma stability is one of the easiest things to kite. + lyssa runes.

Let’s say you can kite him. You are a necro. Op, yes I agree. But then the warrior manages to stun you once. Puts on berserker. And stuns you until you are dead. Easy to kite. Necromancer stunbreakers are rare, we are supposed to pull DS and fear them away. The problem is that’s useless.

Death shroud is a very important necro class-mechanic. If you aren’t traited for marks to give 3% lifeforce when triggered, it’s pretty hard to build in 1v1. When you can finally use it you are already dead.

It’s fair to have some lifeforce at start I think. It’s like a ranger fighting without pets.

aleks.5473:

Gandarel.5091:

Yes ele that can literally oneshot you in a blink of any eye without anything to dodge because all happens in a split second is surely underpowered.. no.

Ele is OP. Very OP. It’s just that the meta does not let them take over because of the condition pressure.

Glass ele’s have 14k hp with 800 toughness I think the only people they can one shot is other glass build and not all classes. Not to mention they have NO STUN BREAKERS and very low condy removals with in current meta is bad. They got burst every 40+ sec a stun war have 3-4 sec stun every 7-8 sec!

I don’t doubt that warriors are awfully OP.

But I was doing 1v1 with a pretty decent ele friend, he was playing a build that had a chance against condi builds (however still easy to kill in a teamfight). People just don’t want to give up that insane OP burst. We tested it and he managed to get my nec down from 25k hp to 2k in 1 sec from 600+ range with the meta build. #balanced

I agree ele needs a litte buff, but a nerf to dmg.

Guild could be meaningful if they would add something guild related, like GvG.

But the GvG name is being disgraced by zergs atm and seems like GvG will be the name of ZvZ (zerg vs zerg). Sad.

I think this is unnecessary, just pick a 6th player for each team and if someone gets DC the substitute player jumps in and plays for the rest of the match. The player who got DC can only join back for the next match.

1) Temple of the Silent Storm
2) Battle of Khylo
3) Legacy of the Foefire
4) Forest

I don’ tlike the others tbh but temple was the best addition to PvP in the past 13 months :P

Never… I play on 4-5 characters in PvP, that means I should be like r20-30 on all of them instead of 49?

That’s what Champion titles are for. They just need to expand on them.

Soulview.4532:

Gandarel.5091:

Yes ele that can literally oneshot you in a blink of any eye without anything to dodge because all happens in a split second is surely underpowered.. no.

Ele is OP. Very OP. It’s just that the meta does not let them take over because of the condition pressure.

Yes sure that`s why you see mass ele in spvp / tpvp nearly every match has three ele in every team… oh wait.

Gandarel.5091:

Ele is OP. Very OP.

wtf must be a troll

If you would take the effort to understand and read my whole comment, maybe you and others would understand.

If a profession oneshots you from range while you were in a teamfight and didn’t even notice the ele, is that balanced? It’s just that if they are focused they die too fast. But if they will become harder to kill and their dmg won’t be changed, people will cry for an ele nerf.

Could you magically just go back to the topic? :P

style.6173:

Gandarel.5091:

So I think it’s official, Zerg vs Zerg is considered GvG. I don’t think 20v20 can be considered GvG or PvP. I think GvG would deserved an own gamemode and a ladder, but with this, the opportunity has gone away. It should be the PvP version of guild mission.

Thoughts?

I will never call that thing GvG.

Stop trying to define GvG yourself. GvG is two guilds who agree how many people should fight and then go and fight. If they want a small number, fine. If they want 20v20, fine. There are no rules on numbers.

The problem is that’s not even PvP. In a 20v20, does individual skill matter at all, Can you watch out for a mesmer raising up his gs summoning a berserker? No. You go spam AoE skills with your PvE build and then hope for lucky crits. You can’t do anything.

And GvG was defined in the GW universe nearly 9 years ago.

Yes ele that can literally oneshot you in a blink of any eye without anything to dodge because all happens in a split second is surely underpowered.. no.

Ele is OP. Very OP. It’s just that the meta does not let them take over because of the condition pressure.

100% that it will come back with other skins.

Darnis.4056:

The problem is people are using GVG as a name instead of what it really is ZvZ because that’d be offensive to the zerglings, sure its two guilds fighting each other, it’s also two zergs fighting each other, so any time two zergs(15-25 people) fight each other it’s ZvZ, and maybe also gvg.

Totally agree. Worse, they think what they do is a skileld and organized form of real PvP and they are better than conquest players.

Junkpile.7439:

If you guild can’t do guild missions then your guild can’t GvG.

We don’t have 40 people online to do things like that and oh we don’t do PvE But 5-8 people for PvP is easy for us.

-1 to this suggestion and -10 to the hammer.

Give us sword + shield!

Wolf.5816:

Yes I would like better achievements. I’d also like:

Battle Commentator: "We think it would be an exciting addition to have a voice announce specific actions done by the player.” I know this has come up in several posts before but this is a solid suggestion and would without a doubt provide an excellent and harmless addition to PvP. For the fact it could be made to only be heard/seen by the player who triggered it. For example: (Double Kill, Killstreak, Finished ect.) And of course this could be a toggle on/off option in the Advanced Settings. This would provide invigorating gameplay and much satisfaction, especially to new or inexperienced players.

PvP accolades: “We would absolutely love a more rewarding achievement system in PvP” The ‘PvP Accolades’ could be a unique and sometimes strange accomplishment system where players are recognized for achieving amazing and bizarre feats during each match while in sPvP. Meeting the requirments will result in a slight glory reward. (I am aware similar but different mechanics exsist already) The ‘PvP Accolades’ differs from any current reward system by the fact that they are reset each mach and simply provide a slight bonus to Glory. Completing one of these feats should also be visible by all other players in small text in a corner of the User Interface. This will cultivate a more rewarding PvP experience. By allowing players to feel and see that they are accomplishing something during battle. And create a positive “win win” enviroment while encouraging more immersive and fruitful PvP gameplay. As well as opening up the potential for some very interesting PvP exclusive titles/Achievements.

Some examples of ’PvP Accolades, are as followed:
Meat Shield:lose 70% of your life while reviving a fallen player and succeed.
Just Resting: Enter the Downed state 3 times in 2 minutes and survive.
I ment to do that: Deal last damage to an opponent who dies from falling damage.
Taking your time: Have your movement speed hindered (Cripple/Chilled/Immobilized) for X seconds in succession.
Wonderluster:Capture every point in X minutes.
Mine!:Keep one point under your control the entire match.
Cruise and Bruise: Remain in combat for X minutes.
Vendetta:Kill the same opponent 6 times.
Miracle Cure: Cure 50 conditions.
Now that’s a Combo: Down/finish an opponent from the effect of a combo finisher.
Sweet Revenge Finish an opponent who has just previously finished you.
Silent Master: Finish an opponent without ever receiving damage from them.
Come Back Kings: Win a match when the enemy had a 300 or more of a lead.
Down but not out: Capture an enemy’s point while in downed state.
I got this: Survive a battle with less than 5% health.
Mist Killer: Down 3 or more opponents at the same time.
Shhh: Interrupt an opponent 3 times in X seconds.
And stay down: Down the same player 3 times in 2 minutes.
Headhunter: kill every opponent at least once.
Immortal: Play an entire match without dieing.
Dominator: Lead in score by 300 points.
Nothing is Safe: Kill X Opponent controlled creatures in one game. (Spirits/Minions/Pets/Turrets/Illusions)
Spray and pray:Down a player while they are invisible.
Boonanza: Gain one of every boon from allies and their effects. (Your own boons do not count towards the effect.)
King Slayer: Personally Finish an opponent who is leading the score board.
Cool Critter: Land X Critical Hits in succession against a single target.
Condition Collector: Recieve atleast one of every condition. (Conditions inflicted on you by yourself do not count towards the effect.)
Power Snuggle: Stay within 600 distance from your opponent for X minutes.
Ultimatum: Down an opponent 2 seconds after they activat their ultimate.
Your just Practice: Down and successfully finish an opponent in X seconds.
What a downer: While downed, deal the killing blow to a downed opponent.
All part of the plan: Negate or avoid a damaging source that would have otherwised downed you.
Just a flesh wound: Remian in downed state for over a 1 minute.
Captain Tyria: Benefit from allies Combo Finishers X times in one game.

These are really awesome suggestions. Btw under ultimate i guess you mean Elite skill.

To the ones saying “GW1 had no real cities” – lore-wise they had. But since we could not jump, they didn’t make complicated design structures if they knew players are going to use that place. Imagine going around every signel fence, using the stairs every single time in a tower when going down and so on.

Crawford.4135:

Gandarel.5091:

I dare to say more than 50% of the GW2 playerbase came from GW1. Or at least 40%. Sometimes i even see random dungeon teams with 5/5 GW1 titles. They make up most of the real core and loyal base.

Still, they don’t continue anything we loved in GW1, however we were promised to have “all we loved in GW1” – manifesto, anyone?

Yet it feels odd. If the community is asking for a GW1 feature, they do the opposite. Do Arenanet devs feel like GW1 isn’t their product, because most of the devs are new to the company?

For example, build teamplates. or GvG. PvP as a whole, is the opposite of GW1’s PvP – lack of variety, no rewards no resources.( Or Cantha! >_> )

Or the birthday gifts… EVERYONE was expecting a nice minipet pack. Instead, we got a Jennah, some booster (which was bugged and totally destroyed the non-existing Pvp economy) and an useless scroll. However… surely a coincidence but the gemstore happened to have a new minipet pack at the 1st anniversary. Feels like they were aiming for Gw1 people to buy their own gifts for money.

Don’t forget the landscape – can you tell me any kind of place that was presented in GW1 and is not in ruins? Most players loved Ascalon – now we have to kill their ghosts, if they are already dead, or blow up the remnants of their kingdom. Just.. no.

Any thoughts?

Using the word “loyal” should be avoided. No players are loyal to any game developer. There are Fanboy (fan based) players and they typically ruin games by their demanding attitudes and game developers cater right in to that, too.

GW1 graphics are old, it’s content is old and to some they simply don’t enjoy that. Others do. Just a choice. I played GW1 for a little while but as time moved on got sick of it. I will leave a game in a heartbeat for something else that gives me enjoyment and time well spent.

Most GW1 players bought GW2 because they had faith in Arenanet. Many people are around only for the “This is still GW. Things will get better.” feeling. This is what i call loyal fanbase.

Again for the uneducated: Theo Ashford is a human, not a charr. Ascalon was human land for more than 1,000 years.

Btw i totally agree. Thisis just lame. Asuras solve everything. Instead of thinking aout a solution and a story, they just throw in an asura (every single time) with his totally advanced godlike device that solves everything.

Why are we even there? Asura guys can’t lift it so they need the players? Seriously..

Zackie.8923:

i agree. content should be permanent except time related content like halloween xmas etc.

SAB is an April’s fools joke. Therefore should pass after 1 day each year and should not return until the next.

3-13 mins. I think more people play Pvp on EU btw.

But consider the thing that if you move here, you won’t get the match win reward chests, idk about the glory, for a while.

For example if you got 200 chests on NA tournaments, you won1t get chest for your first 200 wins on EU.

Charming Rogue.8071:

Traveller.7496:

The best analogy I can make here is that GW2 will be like a Final Fantasy game. Shares same names, locations and concepts, but is fundamentally different than its predecessor(s) and it might even be unfair to expect a full sequel.

Seriously, after I adapted that thought model, I became much less jaded about GW2 failing to meet GW1 expections.

I think this is what we all must realize. GW1 is dead and is never coming back, GW2 is not a replacement. I always hoped that with every update they would ‘fix’ GW2 and add Heroes Ascent, GvG, Guild Halls, cosmetic grind only, and pretty much everything I LOVED about GW1. But I now realize that I must let this dream go.

R. I. P. in peace GW1, 2012. You will be missed.

GW2 is supposed to be a sequel. Supposed to expand on the lore already made and include returning elements.

All the connection we have are the ruins. Nothing else but ruins. I never want GW2 to be GW1, but if GW1 did something perfectly, had a perfectly working reward system in Pvp for example, why trash that and come up with something that is totally flawed? That’s what i will never understand.

SAB shouldn’t exist. GW2 actually feels like a themepark, now with this it’s just the final stab for the lore.

If it must exist. keep SAB in the SAB, keep it an April’s fools joke. Everyone is jumping around with these skins because they glow…

Andele.1306:

Gandarel.5091:

Andele.1306:

Gandarel.5091:

Casters with hammer is just lol. Will never happen and I’m glad.

http://images.wikia.com/darksiders/images/b/b3/Darksiders-2-death-hammer.jpg
Do i have to constantly remind you people of there are no weapon limitations?

Do i have to constantly remind you that this is GW2? I have never seen a necromancer strong enough to wield a hammer.. or one to ever want it, lore-wise.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Devona – “kinda famous” hammer necro
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Cultist_Rajazan – sword necro
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ministry_of_Purity – armada of sword necros

So dont you talk to me about lore mister.

Excuse me lore master, but since when is Devona a necromancer? lol

She once used to have a necromancer touch spell to transfer conditions, along with her 7 warrior skills. But another time she had 2 assassin skills. So is Devona a thief?

And Swords aren’t hammers. I’d like swords for nec and I think it could be possible.

@Bhabw, yes in GW1 you could wield anything, but some things just didn’t make sense. This is one of those things.

LunarNacht.8913:

Most of the stuff in gw1 wasn’t as interesting as you make it.
There were some good quests. But most stuff was: “Enemies there, go kill.”

Next time don’t skip the cutscenes.

So I think it’s official, Zerg vs Zerg is considered GvG. I don’t think 20v20 can be considered GvG or PvP. I think GvG would deserved an own gamemode and a ladder, but with this, the opportunity has gone away. It should be the PvP version of guild mission.

Thoughts?

I will never call that thing GvG.

LunarNacht.8913:

Was it really that important what happend back then?
The heros fought undead, like everyone else.
They worked for both sides of the war, which is strange.
They helped an lich to get an mighty artefact, later killed him after he freed some monsters with it and they fought the monster invasion.
Do you really think that’s a good story to tell?

Reminder: We can’t even visit the more important places of gw1s storyline.

On the other side we have Ascalon, full of ghosts from the past. Zephrites which are connected to glint. And many, many hints at gw1.

You are so entirely wrong I can’t tell.

A story with politics, zealous groups, betrayal, tricking the player character to fight on the wrong side, fighting a fallen god, and so on, are just ways deeper stories to tell than.. “There. Dragons. Dragons everywhere. Evil, evil dragons. They destroy. Kill THEM!”

There are so many untied and interesting, deep stories. Ways better than the new shallow ones. Lot more people would be interested, GW1 fans for sure, and if done right, GW2 players too. Anything is better than Dragons and Scarlet/Starlet.

Half of the old writers are still around btw. Legions existed around the time of GW1. They were formed after the death of the Khan-Ur, with each of his sons taking a part of the charrs since there was no clear hier.

Surreal.5243:

Imho some sort of Capture The Flag would fit this game the most. Like mentioned before it’s allmost impossible to have TDM in GW2 since there’s way to much damage and it would make most classes somehow unviable. (It would basically lead to “stealth and spike” scenarios or some bullkitten like that)

On the other hand Capture The Flag would force build variety since u will need either a bunker or a high mobility class(flagcarrier), heavy cc and/or support classes (flagcarrier support) as well as glasscanons (to kill enemy flagcarrier).

So the same as conquest? With the exception that everyone goes for 1 guy 24/7 whi is probably slowed down and his skills are limited othwerwise he drop the flag. Also there is no sneaking around. It would be a deathmatch, who wins the deathmatch at mid goes for flag, scores it and then it repeats.