Guild Wars 2

You Anvil type are really grabbing at straws aren’t ya. We are bragging at the fact that your 30-40 man zerg failed to spot our hidden memser….4 times. So we were able to take a keep behind that 30-40 mans back…4 times.

Thorson.9218:

Once Anet fixes the issue of corpses being allowed to stay around (and they’ve already said they’re going to fix this), all this “back capping” kitten will be history.

Just curious, lets say they implement that. What will your excuse be after your keep is ninjad behind your back again?

LadyLad.1389:

Come on, you’re really defending a Mesmer staying dead, as a legit tactic?

Of course not, only evil people would think that. Evil people with evil plans of garrison domination.

LadyLad.1389:

I wouldn’t expect you guys to be anymore honest about it, than when BP pulls stunts, and makes their excuses.

Where do you think BP learned it from? We are in cahoots with each other ya know.

I think what he is saying is that our evil mesmers fly hacked to the orb alter and died so our glitching thief could get into the wall to rez him. Oh, and Ehmry Bay is full of poopy heads.

edit: oops, apparently it is now a dead perma-stealthing mesmer. How could you forget that upgrade. But we are still just poopy heads.

So now our mesmer was dead before taking your garrison? Learn something new everyday huh…

I have a feeling you do not understand what a bug is.

Even if he were dead, it is still not an exploit. What was linked earlier was a mod stating that corpse spying was being worked on. He specifically avoided saying corpse rezzing.

Sanguina.2675:

Everybody remembers this video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rldUSR5GOjY

Now this is the second part :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspHtWo32sw

Oh god…the nostalgia with that choice of music.

tiramisu.8706:

12 pages without getting locked. I’m proud of everyone.

Well this just can’t do…Why does BP feel it necessary to glitch?

Wait…I am confused. Are you trying to accuse the video creator of editing it to show less people than what you think are there?

What is next, the accusation that in reality Ehmry outmanned AR in the video? oh wait…

Exarthious.5792:

That’s funny, because from our end, we have the outmanned buff, and see far more of you, than you do.

Straegen.2938:

Having played a long while in T3/T4 on CD and DB I can say that most if not all the competition above Ebay, is significantly better. If a server like CD were to drop, they would own the map for 18 hours and still manage to put a hurting on BP during NA Prime. It wouldn’t be a shut out but it would be much uglier than Ebay. NA Prime would be more fun though.

I really don’t think you realize how much CD has changed over the last few months. They are nowhere close to the powerhouse (being able to beat maguuma) they used to be. The last time we faced CD we utterly demolished their NA presence. The only thing that kept them in the game was their Sea presence keeping them ticking at 695 PPT. Had, lets say, IoJ been in the tier instead of Yaks, we would have won that matchup by a very healthy margin.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/44/24

You will notice that we were beating CD until Tuesday where their sea managed to wipe every map and pull near 695 PPT. CD has since lost that sea presence so they are basically a near dead server now when compared to Ehmry.

edit: I honestly think both AR and BP will beat CD when they drop down to this tier.

testpig.5018:

don’t have to take an ebay keep during the day, ebay has a higher population during the day, and primetime.. just looking to prove that?

What you consider night capping, is someone elses day.

I will repeat it for the umpteenth time. While we consider the night capping annoying, the reason for the complaint is how BP thinks it is necessary to chest thump for three pages about how awesome their golems are against doors after night capping.

I hate edges. They always stub my kitten toes.

RIP big toe

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Except we did it during primetime

Reset primetime

Expiatus.4210:

Boom De Yada, Boom De Yada, Boom De Yada, Boom De Yada.

Tyria is just awesome.

sorry couldn’t resist…..

Hello inspiration for a WvW video.

tas.6310:

I’m breaking up with you Gorefiend.9675, our relationship is over! I can’t take it anymore… it’s making me cry every time I look at you.

Stop skirting around the bush….answer the question so I can have fun until reset time.

I still want to know if tas is talking about arrow carts…

tas.6310:

For the PS, you didn’t investigate at all. You replied saying “That’s intended to destroy seige”. I actually just went back to where they were… ANet restructured the entire area. I had witnessed it happen on two separate occasions (FTF guild specifically).

Are you talking about putting an arrow cart in front of a gate to shoot behind it? If so, that would be absolutely hilarious.

edit: Now that I think about it, there was a screenshot awhile back of someone using an arrow cart to hit siege behind a gate. Oh god, please tell me this is what you are talking about.

I am beginning to wonder if you read others post as half of your statements were already responded to.

tas.6310:

We have no foundation to state to Anet to ban these people that are exploiting… here’s why:

Again, never stated the course of action I expect until a few posts ago. Which that was to just question around to try to get to the bottom of it.

tas.6310:

What eBay wants to see is an official PR release saying that Borlis Pass does not condone exploiting? It’s been done before.

It certainly is not on the Borlis forums. Care to show me where this is?

For the ps, if it is the situation I believe you are talking about this is a perfect example. We investigated that accusation ourselves. I remember a group of people trying to see if it was at all possible to get in that way by trying to recreate it.

Last note, it is obvious now that you will not budge from your definition of proof,(however wrong it may be :P) so this is not going to go anywhere.

Stone.6751:

No, you are wrong again. You clearly stated no direct proof, or have put none forth, thus you are assuming. I’m simply not taking your assumption as a fact.

1)There is more proof than simply seeing the mesmer
2)Eyewitness accounts are proof until you prove the witness to not be credible

It is like being a detective, you should try it sometime.

tas.6310:

You want us to report Kalkz as an exploiting person because you say so. Because you, someone who didn’t see, watch, witness, or have any established record of knowing for a fact that it happened, say so. Kalkz is a commander of Borlis Pass. Kalkz has established a very… unusual… reputation on this forum. Let me pose a question to you – is it possible that you’re simply trying to ruin Kalkz name so that you have less competition for the “PvDoor” scenario?

I have not proposed BP to do any specific action. I assumed, incorrectly I guess, that the right answer would be to help us get to the bottom of this by asking questions. For the second part, my previous response.

Stone.6751:

Well, my explanation is rather simple; I don’t know that your observations are accurate. Link us the video so we can see what you’re taking about. One that shows us some proof. Otherwise its just an assumption on your end. Is it not?

The only assumption being made is you believing what we are saying to be false. Which is fine if you believe the world to be out to get you I guess.

tas.6310:

All these accusations are from one person. You.

Then you are woefully out of the loop.

Rdrodriguez.3204:

First off, I do not condone using exploits. I am a BP citizen. Had I been there and this was in fact an abuse of an exploit, I would report it. However, I was not there. Very few people were there who can attest to the details you are putting forth. Right now, most of the posts on this matter are heresay. Did it really only take 30 seconds? Was there really no mesmer? I think I’ll give my commander the benefit of the doubt considering there is enough reasonable doubt here and I have never seen or even heard an accusation prior to this about Kalkz using exploits.

This is your problem BP. At most you are only willing to say that you yourself do not condone it. How about putting up a PSA condemning any actions or question the people being accused. At some point you have to think that there may be something to all these accusations.

tas.6310:

Did you watch them exploit in?

If we saw him sneaking in you would not have capped it. This is called deductive reasoning, still waiting for your reasoning on how he would have gotten in with those circumstances.

tas.6310:

Oh wait… wait wait wait… now you’re saying you didn’t SEE them exploit in but that since you THINK it was taken within 30 seconds it had to have been?

I understand now.

Still waiting for your reasoning to how that situation could have happened.

edit, also we know who the mesmer was who ported the force in and have reported him. Was funny was because his first story was that he was hiding but had to change it to something else because that was impossible.

Stone.6751:

Wrong. Expecting us to turn on a well known commander whim no one has seen a hint of dishonesty from because two people can’t believie he captured their keep is nothing more than amusing. There is zero proof other than some assumptions, and that doesn’t really pass the reliability test.

Then let me hear your reasoning for how a keep could be taken within 30 seconds without taking down any doors/walls or having a hidden mesmer?

Notice, it was taken with 30 seconds of it going contested.

Azavin.2018:

We’ve been sieged capped for over 20 hours. Pretty pathetic. The server knows who it is. Let’s play nice.

A troll also decided to siege cap us in eternal as well. There is a really simple solution to the problem though. Build golems….lots and lots of golems. We built so many people were randomly finding empty golems across the entire map.

Strippling.3524:

[GF] is hands down the best guild for their size I’ve seen in any of the tiers I’ve been in. There are many skilled guilds, small and large, but [GF] has the most talent on an individual level as well as team co-ordination. When people would call out in map chat “a group of 7-10 Ebay taking SW camp” I would immediately ask which guild it was, if the reply was “[GF]” I would make sure that I had a sufficiently large enough force to wipe them. I know if it was even numbers they would wipe us. I’m a commander in YB and I respect their talent.

Like I said… there are many great guilds of all sizes, but for me [GF] is the best smaller guild I’ve played against. I think BP and AR should learn to counter them rather than complain about them. YB learnt how to deal with them… bring twice their numbers lol.

People need to realize that “Best” in WvW can mean multiple things. Does it mean best at killing people or best at sieging/capturing nodes? Or maybe even best overall.

Redgrass.3067:

Sekz is Ebays best wvw guild.

Best is subjective. But yes, they are really really good at what they do.

Chewy.9263:

But the thing is, he really is not doing anything wrong in my eyes, sabotage and spying are legality war tactics. Is wvw no longer a war zone? I think not. Cheers to the dedicated troll.

There is nothing wrong with someone building so many rams that you can not drop another piece of siege on the entire map?

Kohz.1534:

I think Ebay’s Borderland was empty yesterday because of the zerg they sent to OL in Eternal Battlegrounds to finish taking everything we had, It was an epic defense on AR’s part. So Errrbay, was it 6 or 8 Golems plus I don’t know how many pieces of seige equipment you lost at the gates before your 60 to 70 man zerg finally triumphed over our outmanned forces and took Overlook? Equally funny is that it was a very expensive fight on your side and extremely SHORT lived as we took back not only Overlook from you but all of our side of Eternal less than 10 minutes later. ( ps. nice try at the spawn camping by the way, FAIL!) We built the 2 Trebs at Veloka that you just had no defense planned for ;-) and evicted you from our overlook.

We also decided to take some of BP’s towers (overreaching on your keep there BP ;-) sorry about the damage!) since we had the momentum.

We may be down but we are not out! While you can obviously out man us (EB) you can not out play us. All in All a good couple of hours worth of epic fights in EB yesterday. Looking forward to reset, maybe all the AR players playing with the dang box of fun will come back and support not only our borderlands but Eternal too!!!

See yah on the battlefield.

Peace!

two waves of two golems. So four golems in total. Yesterday was fun. Our interest was in karma training so letting you recap overlook was okay for us. It was too bad we could not flip BP’s keep though. Those fights at the supply camp were a nice entertainment substitute though.

Ghedoriah.4290:

I’d hesitantly echo this, depending on what happens next week. It seems that a lot of folks are betting on us hitting T6 or 7 (admittedly mostly through wild speculation), but statistically it seems that T4 is going to be about as far as we go. We’re currently operating with basically no dedicated WvW guilds. That is, we’re losing by a margin – but not hideously – in T3 solely on the strength of our PvX guilds and militia. We don’t really have any more to lose and we’re still not losing that badly.

Heya, stepping in here to take a look at a possible future opponent. SoS has actually fared worse against Yaks’ NA than Ehmry has. Going off of that, depending on how big your sea/oceanic presence is, you could end up anywhere from high t6 to low t4. If I were to guess, I would say SoS will mellow out in t5.

Likewise :P

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peter.9024:

llkoolaid.8204:

Hey BP, I love your flame rams…

You do realize that there are sadly a couple people on our server actively sabotaging wvw…

Which is why you tell that certain someone you all dislike to keep to your server :P

nytehex.3267:

PvDoor

You keep using that word…I do not think it means what you think it means.

testpig.5018:

Anvil Rock… IF you start hitting Ebay, you increase your odds of pulling out of last place.

Or keeping Borlis at 70 PPT will increase their chance at second place.

Kalkz.5297:

Wait in spawn for 10 mins and wait for the enemy zerg to leave then go and cap a keep, no offence to you guys but i cannot think of any other cheap way for a guild to cap a thing

hahahahahahahahaha…oh my god my sides. This is just….priceless.

Kodiack.2783:

Anvil Rock is smart enough to know that Errbay has a 3 hour window where they can press both AR and BP. If you solely focus on BP we’ll reap in the points and continue to drag down your glicko rating and keep you in T5 another week. Oh and Maguuma, Yaks and DB are that way —->(points to T3).

-K

All these tears are glorious. Moar give me MOAR!

Evilzara.6378:

Congratulations to Ehmry Bay on the victory this week.

You are doing it wrong.

Kalkz.5297:

usually when i rage I call my Guild & People to get a huge zerg and crush borderlands, I raged due having some Cool [GH] people camping redvale in BP BL, I gotta say, FTF or FTP or w/e your tag is, nice save @ Your hills and Bay, Lets see if you can be there at night ?

We got a bad kitten over here. Can cap objectives no one defends.

Pedra.4381:

Yes, I was. I’m on Anvil Rock and the last two nights, I’ve seen that exact guild tag running around in the BLs.

Identical guild tag or guild tag and name?

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Pedra might be referring to just a group we had running around at some odd hour… or maybe one of our groups during a raid after we split up into smaller ones.

I thought he was saying there was an identical GH on another server?

Pedra.4381:

Gorefiend.9675:

Hate to burst your bubble, but Devonas is slated to stay in t5 for another week atm.

Our 5 man ran into a Grindhouse Gaming [GH] roamer group several times the last couple of nights. I forget which server they were (either DH or IOJ). Are those guys in your guild? Are they representative of what we can expect from GH when we hit Tier 5?

We are an Ehmry Bay exclusive guild. We also do not have any organized roaming groups. Just our raids.

Kardiamond.6952:

I’m so looking for this Match up.

Not because we will be competitive, we will prolly finish last since BP is usually superior to us.

But I’m sure all the roaming group in AR (DUNK, EVIL, STAR, FOOL) will be happy to have some action.

Ebay will be new blood for us, so it will be a good time to test ourselves. I hope you have more roamers then DH and IoJ!

And BP, even tho they don’t have many roamers, are still always there to bring the action. Broliss Rock right?

Sekz, I remember you from NSP, but I didn’t really fight you guys since most of the times you were wayy too many for us. And for Echo, I hope you don’t always bring 10 players. It counts for a zerg for us.

P.S : I’m sad that we won’t be able to fight DR. Judging from the forum, that had a good amount of roamer!

Can’t wait!

Hate to burst your bubble, but Devonas is slated to stay in t5 for another week atm.

Kodiack.2783:

History shows that even a mediocre of a SEA presence nets you T4 status, see DB.

I can’t take you seriously simply because of this comment. Dragonbrand has always had the oceanic presence of a t2, possibly t1, server. They would queue up whichever borderland they chose to go to.

Fraeg.9837:

As for Mag, one of their great strengths is their organization, that didn’t appear suddenly over night once, as you put it, they were full strength. So yes, BP is familiar with Mag and their organization.

Have a pleasant day

You need to re-read one of my earlier posts. One of mags great strengths WAS their organization. They do have a few gems of guilds within them but as a server they are not what they used to be. They are now your typical fairweather zergy server. Believe it or not, but the new fairweather zergy server would destroy their old self simply because of the explosion of numbers.

If Ehmry is not a t4 server, then who would be? Crystal Desert? Had Ehmry and Crystal been in a 1 on 1 fight Ehmry would come out on top. I will use the YB/CD/Ebay matchup a few weeks ago as evidence. For a little over half the week we were beating CD in points. Then for two oceanic periods in a row CD rolled at 600 PPT+. Without Yaks Bend to have to fight with during NA time, our PPT at that time slot would easily overcome CD’s oceanic. So take another look at that list and tell me who else is a t4 server if not Ehmry Bay or Crystal Desert.

I would quote your post but holy kitten it is long. That is where you and I disagree. I do not base t4 on the likes of Yaks Bend or Maguuma. Right now, Yaks is holding up in t3 so I would not classify them as a t4 server.

The next possible candidate to be a t4 server would be Maguuma. They are incredibly hard to judge right now considering they had previously crushed Yaks Bend but were demolished in t3. The same tier Yaks is holding their own in. For now, I am guessing Mag is still t3/4 but were unlucky having to go against TC that week.

Next candidate would be Crystal Desert. Last time we fought them our NA presence was bigger while CD’s oceanic was bigger. Had it just been CD vs Ehmry I believe Ehmry would have won.

SBI is a complete unknown to me. In the current matchup they are pulling about the same Ehmry pulled in the YB/CD/Ehmry fight. So for now I will guess they are equal in strength to Ehmry.

So if you add in my other posts where I judged server strength the list would conclude to something like this:
Maguuma – t3/4
Yaks Bend – t3/4
Ehmry Bay/SBI – t4/5
Borlis Pass – t5 strength (t4 population)
Crystal Desert – t5/6

Note: These strengths are evaluated on if there were a fight between a single server and the one listed above or below it. Does not account for 3 way match-ups as some scores will vary greatly. IE, if it were CD instead of Devonas, then Ehmry would be pulling an 80k+ point lead right now.

Kardiamond.6952:

@GoreFiend

How much it changed since free transfer? Since then we fought like 6-7 time vs Borliss Pass. We know them. That’s why I’m saying if BP is T4, then what rank are AR and NSP? Are we T4/5 too?

I really doubt BP has the NA population of EB.

BP has the NA population of a t4/5 server. If AR has a similar population then you also have the population of a t4/5 server. Also, I am not saying BP is a t4/5 server. They do not have the skill as a server to pull that off. I am not sure of DR’s actual NA strength seeing as how they do not have their fairweathers out. But they don’t have enough population for t5 though.

Creepy Silent.9801:

I would love to see a 4 way, DR/Ehmry vs. BP/AR! Or maybe just ECHO/ADQQSTy vs everything

ECHO/ADQQSTy/SEKZ vs everthing…I don’t think the Anet servers could handle that level of epicness.