Guild Wars 2

Well its true, I did get those rewards from the event, and also FotM is a bit more like a raid, cause some of the bosses got some mechanics that need teamwork.
I just think that OTE’s are not conducive to a happy player environment. I mean its almost funny that Anet themselves would Work hard on something that is only gonna happen once in the games life(personal stories don’t count cause as soon as you get to a point its not about your racial story anymore and you can play other toons).
I think that the Event was great more like a raid than most of anything else in the game so far and yet it was plagued with disconnects, invisible enemies, and over aggro by players rushing ahead and pulling more aggro than the server participating could handle, which means no cooperation. I think instancing this would make it very playable without the things that went wrong.

I really felt that the players should get to play this more often and on their terms, when they have time, not when they decide is most likely the best time slot to put it up.
The only reason I think this should be called a raid and have a larger team based play is what I really think the ascended gear should have been a part of. Gear that is really only applicable in the raid type situation but still works fine in overall game play, without giving a major advantage over current top end gear. Make it so that FotM is a leadup to AK raid where you have to have protection from agony just so you don’t die instantly from the Ancient Karka’s super dose. But it needs that bigger team based play to make it successful cause 5 is just not enough to make some of the mechanics happen that need to happen.

I like it because it shows that they are putting real power behind it …heres is a good example why I disagree “Women’s Tennis”.
A tennis racquet most likely weighs less than a scepter would since most scepters have metal and jewels on them. And yet these girls make big heaving grunts when they whack the ball with their racquet.

Kinda like in this video except the Mesmer’s don’t get this excited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EiLzitjdLE
But you will be happy to know that now they are getting on the women for the grunts so maybe your request is not all undeniable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baWi2M1zPtU

Nox Aeterna.2965:

So let it be like that , WoW changing the raid system to the way it is proves it is the way most people like it.

Heh , im amazed you people think Anet would listen to you , and add raids against others people wills but then wont make it easier when other ask for it.

You now are the ones asking and we are the ones in your way , but i assure you that if they add raids , then this situation will only invert … and then again if you win now , guess who will win then heh.

Wait! I thought you said you were gonna quit GW2, yet here you are the Great Defender.
Why you still bashing every person with an idea that gets put out here since you obviously care so much for the state of the game, but your sig says otherwise. Come on why do you think you are in “our” way. Even if my idea does not make it, I will probably still play the game and love doing so all the while.
If the community takes an idea and everyone agrees that its a positive for the game or they can at least collaborate on the idea and work out the details together and it gets a lot of comments, the dev’s will take notice.
Why do you try to stop some good ideas if you are leaving anyway?

true so why not call this “Not a Raid”

Wow I came back tonight almost 24 hours later to check on my thread and since the last post it got buried in 7 pages full of posts.

Must be the event! You sure woke up your audience there Anet.

Seriously though, why so much effort to make what should be a raid and make a lot of people unhappy, all in the same weekend? When you could slide this in as a raid and have people glad to be able to group up and kick some Ancient Karka every other week or so.

Fievre.4510:

Gummy.4278:

Another little thought just ran through my head …what if the mounts were not racial but were professional…
for instance the Necro would summon a MEAT Horse. A Mesmer would make a Illusionary Moa. The Ele would Ride the Lighting. A Eng would make a buggy or something to that effect. Rangers would ride a pet. A thief would just Steal one from the other people near him.
Not sure what a Guard or War would do …I am sure, you all can figure out something for them to ride. What would it be?

Meat horse… xD Lost it. I want this.

Its not often that someone agrees with me on something but yeah thanks for the high five!

I just think that Anet working hard on something so similar to a Raid to begin with, that why not just go ahead and stop calling it what it was not designed to be in the first place, which is a OTE.

@Phantom~some do some don’t ..to each his own. And to that end, you can play in GW2 without playing in Raids, if the idea came to fruition. Saying go play some other game that is dried out and old just cause it doesn’t fit with your play style is not helpful to anyone’s cause.

@lynspottery~ I am sure no one “here” wants to copy WoW, as that seems to be the GW way for most. I was attracted to GW2 cause I got the impression that if you participate with something you would get something for your efforts, like the dungeons give out tokens to get the gear(none of this running it for your buddies to gear up while you get nothing week after week). I do not support the idea of following WoW with “Rolling” for loot.

like title says you want Happy Customers, convert this to GW2’s first ever RAID!!!

How about 20 to 30 man versions. Maybe cut back a bit on the drops or make the One Time Items like the Karka Shell Box only drop very rare, along with the Precursor’s, with a better chance at getting a exotic and/or rares…

Don’t really know the best way to structure a Raid rules, like how many times a week you can do the Raid(s{you might be able to make future OTE’s convert into new Raids as well})so I will let the following posters add to the idea, to show their support for this idea….!!!!

This so much reminded me of raiding, I would love this added as a permanent Raid. And even if you do not agree with what I said about setting up the raid rules, get in make a comment to tell us how you think a Raid like this could be run, show some Support for the idea, prove to Anet this is what you want!!!!

I am sure some of the people who missed the event might like this. but some of the people who want to go hardcore a bit more often will love this….Let Anet know how you feel by making this post obvious to them……

Wasselin.1235:

Originally they were going to have weekly achievements but something stopped them, so I don’t think they will add a weekly and a daily. That might mess up the economy and how fast they expect players to get rewards.

The way my proposition is structured you could still do the daily one a day and it would be exactly the same as it is now, except if you miss a day you would have a chance to catch up.

yeah I want to be able to reset the the timer, so if like today I am off work I can do it in the early morning my time zone and not wait till night time when I will probably be doing something else and will end up not getting my daily in for the day at all.

That is the reason a weekly reset could be a even better option as on the days I work I might not even come on the game at all, but the off days I could make them up. Either way is fine but Anet might consider that braking the mechanic. Which I thought they were all about being, you know, for the casual gamer to begin with. So I see no reason why they could not help us out here.

Another little thought just ran through my head …what if the mounts were not racial but were professional…
for instance the Necro would summon a MEAT Horse. A Mesmer would make a Illusionary Moa. The Ele would Ride the Lighting. A Eng would make a buggy or something to that effect. Rangers would ride a pet. A thief would just Steal one from the other people near him.
Not sure what a Guard or War would do …I am sure, you all can figure out something for them to ride. What would it be?

gogoapoxy.1425:

Against removing dailies. For me they are something to focus on while waiting for guildies.

I want boss dailies back, and maybe specfic dungeon paths similar to daily missions back in gw.

You can always grind out salvages if you want to boost your ach pts. Do events to generate cash, buy stacks of salvage items.

I don’t think you and Travis understand: OP doesn’t want them to be removed, he wants them to be able to be done on his time when he can do them…

Today I am off work and can get on the game in the morning, but the Dailies don’t reset til tonight. So then I feel like I don’t get to play when I want. I am on some timer that I can’t control, which really zaps the fun outta the game for me.

It would be better to let me do all my Dailies for the week, anytime during the week and have it reset like on Sundays.

the problem is the way GW1 worked compared to the way these items work. For the most part(not everything mind you) if you played GW1 if something was rare you could farm it til you got it and that was the way it was for everyone and thus a mindset about farming was established, ten runs to get the frog on a stick.

I think a lot of people are still thinking in this mindset and are finding out very quickly that this is not something to be farmed and it is upsetting to be woken with the cold reality, that you are not in fact wasting time, this time its money, and it hurts more when you feel you wasted your money.

I know the old cliche “Time is Money” well I got a new one for these items “Save your Money on this Waste of Time” go to the trading post and outright just buy the items , you can still farm your own gold.

Its my good opinion that Anet is not gonna put it back like it was, cause they are gonna have something there during Wintersday.
Having the blank space will give them a way to make another “One Time Event” that more than likely I will miss since I work for a living and play casually.
Btw Anet if you are reading this, the OTE strategy makes me won’t to quit playing your game. You make me feel left out, stop with the OTE’s they are not making people happy.

what I find very fun, from time to time is one person jumps all over me, calls me three names and practically gives me a very rude run down.
I replied without name calling and actually reworded what was said to me in the same fashion back without the insults and get reported that my comments are rude and my comments is cut out of the thread.
Well now, what comes around, goes around.

And for the eternal circle, I could comment simply by stating “see previous posts!” I think I have made a lot of post already about things that are in the game that make a strong argument for and many suggestions on how it could be done and I don’t care if it looks like one of the many many competitors games, as I am sure anything anet will do will have some uniqueness to it.

I for one did not care about a continuous speed buff on the mounts(IF) until I started trying to do events for the dailies and after many attempts to just get to an area that was contested, only to not get any reward for my efforts, it kinda changed my opinion on that factor. I have been in an area and every possible waypoint was contested except for one near the crossover to another area.
I want mounts that are useful as well as beautiful, and I can concede to many things for the opposition, but I would do a slight bit different. Like I want to use mounts in towns but should not have to look at Professor Yakington’s door bell to talk to a npc(even though u are blocked just by the other toons and F button can see past the blockage) so if you get near a Npc or go inside a housing you dismount automatic. Jumping games are out too. And as for scenery, my mount will not look outta place as they will be running around in the wild anyway. Anyone who says they don’t let you see the game (and waypoints don’t do that at all you can skip so much scenery the way it is now) or you will not stop to help others have not seen some of the kittens I have. I would still like to see mounts have combat abilities and rez skills so I can help you out by using the mounts special abilities if you are in trouble and then turn and get back to what I was doing quickly.

It all sounded like it was great in GW1 but what happened was that people did not want to take the time to level them, they just wanted to get the pet and go ….and go they did. they would eventually use a method to level the pet with in the Zaishen Menagerie in about 10 minutes time, with the Death-Leveling method.

here is a video with DL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fxRpm6Z3eE
and the Official wiki http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Death_leveling
if you didn’t play GW1

Hey this might not be right(I have not tried it, but I have looked).
With the disclaimer outta the way.
Go to the “Heart of the Mists” and turn right and go to the{PvP Items}Armorsmith
look through the runes find what you want try for free, then talk to the {PvP Items}Weaponsmith try the Steady weapons(purple) with sigils that he also has, for free again. The steady version will give more accurate readings, so you can tell more if the runes are helping or hurting. Go smack some Golems, when you get done you will know exactly what you want to buy for your PvE sets without breaking anything.

“Or just not have a jumping puzzle and give out items to everyone for free instead.”

Sorry I lost you on that, the point that I was trying to make was, that the major complaint was that it was designed as a group thing, but in the end it was not a group effort that got you a reward.
The way I was looking at it, is you would at least gotten something for someone making it so you would not feel terrible for each of your Individual Failures.

Josh Foreman.8250:

Good idea. Not sure if it’s something we could do at this point. But I’ll keep it in mind on my next JP.

Josh I know that a lot were upset about the group thing, why didn’t you let the group succeed if one person made it?
If I was the designer I might have made it so that if one person made it, the ones who fell off would get to open the chest for like 1ToT’s per for each person in the group to make it and not finish the achievement no slippers, and ones who completed it got the slippers, ToT’s, and the achievement. That way I would not made so many people feel like it was a waste of time to even go for the finish.

Fievre.4510:

Gummy.4278:

No speed buff. just for looks, Toy Mounts.

A lot of people already don’t want speed buffs, just mounts to collect.

Just trying to separate the Toys from the Real Mounts(if they ever come) per-say, when I posted this I did not know the broom was coming to a witch near you.

Items like I am saying are really meant to be town clothes with a toy(now)!
I didn’t think adding this to the current mount discussion was the correct place since this is not what many are hoping mounts to be.

And like the addition I put in the second post to let you ski/snowboard it might not Feel right, since if it has no speed buff it will not feel like you are sliding down a hill. Where on a real slope gravity will pull you down the mountain faster and faster. It sounds good and fun but not likely to happen.

Also I have climbed to tops of mountains and looked over to the other side and wished there was a “Zip Line” to a neighbor mountain. But that is another discussion about other alternative methods of travel.

well it looks like the witch got a broom….

after thinking on it not just in towns is a better option ….and with that I came up with ski’s, snowboards, sled’s and tube’s so we can get some fun on the slopes when we are in frozen territory

I don’t really care one way or the other for speed, if I am allowed to be fully protected by my armor and protect myself from enemies while mounted , if not I think they should have a speed buff but used more like a charge type skill.

But what if the mount had “Speeds”, which in RL they do.
A horse goes from a walk, to a trot, to a Canter/Lope, and to a Gallop. Just like a car changes gears.
I don’t see them adding four different speeds but a walk they could do all the time and the gallop they could do only for short boosts, kinda like Epona in Zelda games, if you timed the speed boosts correctly you could maintain them if you went overboard you be walking from burning the poor animal out.
I think something more like the swiftness we have now would be the best option with maybe a bit longer than most of the current length of run times.

castlemanic.3198:

Lutharr.1035:

running past something til the little blue light lights up aint exactly immersing yourself in the enviroment. One idea could be that your only able to use a mount in an area you have completed. That promotes both the gold sink that would be a mount and exploration.

But once you have all the waypoints in an area, a mount is obsolete because waypoints are near enough to run to most things relatively quickly.

You still forget that waypoints can be and are contested and there in lies something I might want to run to quickly, and have tried getting to and came in at the last second to find well I came there for nothing.

Guild.3529:

No mounts ! We have waypoints .. Also walking is better for exercise . Walking makes you explore places , get attacked by monsters … with mounts you will skip everything…

no ….someone I think already said that mounts should be the reward from doing 100% map completion , if that was the case tell me how much content are they gonna skip?
Only what they want to get to, which is the players choice to skip whatever anyway. The people who want a continuous speed buff on mount, don’t want to fight something in between the areas getting to the content they want to do. As a lot of the content is timed, if you get there to late then it was a wasted trip, not to mention most times they want to get to a outpost that is also contested, which means no waypoint travel.I have seen first hand this effect.

If we had waypoints in our real life world, this is what would happen.

One, the waypoints have to have two pieces of equipment, one at both ends of the proposed travel points. That means the equipment is probable gonna be expensive as a kitten, which is why they charge a large fee to use the equipment, but only 10% of the population would probably be able to afford this type of travel. Much like our current air travel options, but It would probably not make it so that air travel options would stop. The majority of the world’s population is poor. This is why there are so many types of travel in our world.
Now if they device only needed the one piece equipment to make the transfer then you would be able to move to any spot in the world and your point would be right.

Second, they would limit the travel points to large cities with heavy populations, as there would not be enough reason to put a device in that cost so much in low travel destination areas or unsavory areas. Meaning that if you could teleport to the bathroom, you probable would, unless it cost you 500$ every time you did and 1million to put in the equipment to make it so.

Third, our nature is not about distance, but time. You will always pick the fastest method of travel that you can afford. And if that method of travel is not available for the area you intend to go you will pick the next fastest method. People practically run you over on the highway just so they can get home and laze on the couch, its the perception of time and what you want to do with your time that is important to people. Just like I noted before, You will need other forms of travel to satisfy the needs of the whole population not just the rich.

Forth, Recreation…some forms of travel are kept, as a form of recreation. Speed has a way of giving ourselves pleasure. This is why some people who can’t really afford it have recreational vehicles so they can have fun. The adrenaline rush you get from going faster than you normally can is fun to some. Meanwhile some of these methods are not fast at all , the enjoyment from these types, are they actually make you slow down. You will feel enjoyment cause your pace of life is slowed down, again the perception of time is slowed, that you feel like you have more time centered around yourself. If you move about very fast all the time you will want slow down types to relax more. I know a lot of people that keep horse’s as their recreation, they feel more at nature when they are riding them. Not what most people on here perceive them to be in game at all, most say in game, it would detach you from the beauty of the in game world.

So all in all its “Time” and “Money” that is the factor that determines what you use as a form of travel and at what times you use it. Does this apply to the game world? No, you get two types of travel and no other choices, and this is why a lot of people want mounts and some don’t.

Valento.9852:

For God’s sake, you’ve started without it, let it be that way with only waypoints, mounts are not necessary, and they clutter the area, it’s just crap idea… instead, it would be better to improve minis system, a nicer interface to handle them would be a nice way (hate having to activate them everytime and how they have to be in the bag, there should be a separate panel/inventory).

so what you are saying is that we should ride the mini’s? That might be just comical and all, but it doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.

Gummy.4278:

I forget some of the other mounts in GW1, here is another I just remembered.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Siege_Devourer on the official Guild Wars Wiki! I even like the first part its says “You have mounted a siege devourer.”

From GW2 the quest “Desperate Medicine” Petra actually says “Look, Moa’s! There big, but skittish. It would be real easy to spook them! Remember when we used to ride Rancher Mepi’s herd? I bet these birds are just as skittish.”

have to quote myself here read the part about the personal story DM.

Nox Aeterna.2965:

I dislike mechanical mounts myself , worst thing in SWTOR to me , yes out of all the other stuff , is that lack of animal mounts.

Hell i would pick a horse over any bike anytime.

Also , i support mounts cause i find them beautiful and amazing , and i think on a game like GW2 , based on looks over all else , they would fit like a glove.

We agree, but for the sake proving that mounts are not just living creature,s I went and made that point….

castlemanic.3198:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

And to anyone claiming mounts are against the lore… Ahem:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Snow_beast
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dagnar_Stonepate
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necrid_Horseman

To be fair, lorewise all that was 250 years ago. Things now a days are very different than the way they were back then.

Again, not saying im against mounts, just pointing out a fact.

Yeah 250 years is a long time. And just like our reality, the charr started making mechanical mounts and mechanical siege weapons. No one ever said the mounts Anet could give us has to be living breathing creatures.

I forget some of the other mounts in GW1, here is another I just remembered.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Siege_Devourer on the official Guild Wars Wiki! I even like the first part its says “You have mounted a siege devourer.”

From GW2 the quest “Desperate Medicine” Petra actually says “Look, Moa’s! There big, but skittish. It would be real easy to spook them! Remember when we used to ride Rancher Mepi’s herd? I bet these birds are just as skittish.”

Duke Darkwood.4237:

The problem, as I see it, is terrain and enemies.

There are a lot of areas in the game which would just be mount-unfriendly. Steering around some of them would take longer than going on foot over/through them. (I know mounts can jump, but not as precisely as a person on foot.)

Then, there’s enemies, and our level scaling. A majority of the creatures we pass will be hostile, and many have control effects. Even those without would bring down our horse through sheer damage.

As for WvW: No, No, No. The penalty of having to run back would be gone, and battles would become long, drawn-out affairs where each side remains constantly reinforced, forever.

Have you ridden a horse before? I have and let me tell that fella could go up steeper inclines than I would ever had tried on foot. Also have you ever been kicked by one? Its something you want soon forget. Let me assure you these animals can handle a fight better than you think they can.

They could add a debuff to mounts after a death to slow yo down or mute the speed fo x amount of time..

Reclusiarh.2674:

Sorry didn’t bother reading 10 pages, so here’s my idea:

allow mounts in www.
Why:
1. In the longer term players will get bored of running the same path from the keep to the towers to defend the zone for the 10000x time.

Solution: Allow the yaks to be mounted, the same animals that carry provisions. It could be done in such a way they would go by themselves so no personal action would be required from the player. You just pop yourself on the yak, and it will happily trot to the end location.

why? Because guarding the yak with provisions is too boring, nobody is doing it, so it’s a lost mission.

With being mounted at least, in the meantime you can check the TP, read map chat, etc.

you just made me think of having a special gun on the side of the Dolyak, that you could fire at stuff while you are moving, so it adds a certain kind of skill to land hits correctly….

Did it come via mail and you are full?

You know what, thinking about it made me think back to a movie with a lot of good examples in one fight …. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEfq-Jrj-QE watch the whole fight if you have not seen this before, and you can see alot of real life methods that incorporate into a fight to do exactly what the OP wants with this ….or at least I think he wants this kind of avoidance. Anyway if its anything like the moves Sub Zero pulls out I am for it.

Kaimick.5109:

I haven’t name called you any thing, I just simply will not do the leg work for you.

Also to note I am not trying to change your way of thinking I just don’t see a need for mounts, the way point system works fine.

Mounts for farming is a poor excuse as in WoW mounts for farming is needed as Nodes and other gathering professions are shared among all players. In Guild Wars 2 they are exclusive to you so no need to run around and rush to that node cause someone else may take it from you.

Sir you have not read most of the stuff I have posted on this thread , you are only coming into the conversation late and joining in the attack. I have actually made several comments about a combat mounts, with only charge type speed buffs.

And yes you did call me “LAZY” when in fact I have read many statements that have not proven that they have in fact outright said no to the no and hell no. I don’t need to do leg work on something I have already read into and have fully acknowledged. I am not the one that has to prove something to you or anyone for that fact, Ditto, to you , but if you can prove it, my statement stands, I will accept my defeat and no longer post in a loosing battle.

Kaimick.5109:

Gummy do the research on your own, I don’t support Lazy people that want hand outs and I wont support your laziness to not do the research, I found it just fine, then again I just was smart about my search.

Link it, and I will back out of the conversation, prove me wrong, and I will not post on this topic again. However not proving me that I am wrong, will not get me to convert to your way of thinking, no matter what ever name calling you sling at my kitten. Another basic thing, why would I convert when its just a suggestion anyway. It does not hurt you that its out there. Yet you are so into trying to control my vision of having fun. Stop with the name slinging already .

NightFire.7563:

Gummy.4278:

Tinni.4351:

Gummy.4278:

Tinni.4351:

Gummy.4278:

Enikuo.9205:

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

And you get to ride them in town right , oh no what ever will the nay sayers do…

Well the Witch’s Broom can’t be used for obstruction, which is what a lot of people were worried about, and secondly, they are clearly for the lols. It’s fun riding them from the trading post to the crafting station and vice versa and also to just hoover while waiting for a group. I am not even sure if it gives a speed boost or just feels like it does. It’s just a gimmick, not a proper means of transportation. We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount. If it were and it cost X gems, there would be even more people complaining about it then they are about the halloween skins dropping from Black Lion Chests.

I like how you contradict yourself by saying “It’s fun riding them….and also to just hoover while waiting for a group.”
SO they are FUN, SO you LIKE just AFK’ing on them ,but isn’t that one of the things that the opposing the mounts was against. Who cares what size the mount is, BLOCKING is not an issue anyway cause you can talk to any NPC by hitting the (F) button.
And this line “We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount.”
What difference does that make, you are so opposed to having mounts you justify what has all the makings of being a mount, as being ok cause it was not advertised as a mount, as a way to accept it. If it was not a part of town clothing and was a mount that could go anywhere , really what difference does it make. You already said that is was fun, so why try to make it so the idea of having mounts would not be any different.

sigh I also like turning into birds and flying form the crafting station to the trading post. Not to mention crafting as a bird or some other tonic induced transformation. Those are also fun for me. and serve the same function as hover on a broom.

Something called a “mount” and bought as a “mount” raises certain expectations and has certain connotations. The primary purpose of a mount is to travel. the primary purpose of that broom is to pretend to be a witch. Two very different things. You would not, for example, buy a mount that did not give a speed boost and allowed you to “zip around the map” as many of you pro-mount people like to say. There is no need for such mounts in GW 2 as we have waypoints and all classes have speed boasts and you can get speed boast buffs too. There is zero need for a “mount” in the proper “mount” sense.

Mount in WoW = necessary because they don’t have way points and the maps are designed to sink time travelling from one end to another. Mount in GW 2 = not necessary and if they were introduced as “mounts” but still made redundant because you couldn’t get a speed boast, you guys would cry even more!

Why do You think it has to be like WOW, I am all for something that has not been done before in WOW, you are the one who is hung up on this thought process that it has to be like WOW.

Evidently you played WOW, since you can easily compare this game to that. You know what, Wow had waypoints too, they were called Portals, your reference holds no weight.
Oh and you can pretend you are on witch on a broom mount also, make a better case.

Because WoW WORKED! It freaking WORKED! Everything about it just fit into freaking place! The farming, PvP, dungeons, mounts, achievements EVERYTHING!

Guild Wars 2 is trying to work. The Events are buggy and easy with a huge zerg, PvP is mismatched horribly, and farming is a pain without Guild Gathering buff. I (and everyone else I hope) understand that this game is very young. But it’s during this time that the game can evolve to become the next best MMO. But it sure as hell can’t do it unless they bring in things that the big boys use.

And the portals are like WP. But were used rarely because mounts were a better way to travel. Allowing the player to farm mats, help out players getting beat on by massive amounts of mobs, or take down enemy players.

Argument is back in. Case still stands strong. Try harder first time MMO scrub.

I am sorry, I don’t understand, exactly what point did you prove, that you like WOW better cause its not broken, but GW2 is broken. If you gonna try to harp on me, at least make a point in favor of the game you are defending.

Kaimick.5109:

But it is apparent that you really want mounts and seeing as the last words from the developers was.. NO NO and Hell NO I guess you can stay in WoW if you want your mounts.

Prove that give me the link, show me where a Dev posted that there would never be mounts in GW. I know of one statement that said there would never be any Flying mounts.
Still like so many you think if they have mounts they are gonna copy paste WOW, and like so little I know that Anet can produce something never before seen or done.
They have already done this with Unique ideas like the Junundu.

Tinni.4351:

Gummy.4278:

Tinni.4351:

Gummy.4278:

Enikuo.9205:

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

And you get to ride them in town right , oh no what ever will the nay sayers do…

Well the Witch’s Broom can’t be used for obstruction, which is what a lot of people were worried about, and secondly, they are clearly for the lols. It’s fun riding them from the trading post to the crafting station and vice versa and also to just hoover while waiting for a group. I am not even sure if it gives a speed boost or just feels like it does. It’s just a gimmick, not a proper means of transportation. We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount. If it were and it cost X gems, there would be even more people complaining about it then they are about the halloween skins dropping from Black Lion Chests.

I like how you contradict yourself by saying “It’s fun riding them….and also to just hoover while waiting for a group.”
SO they are FUN, SO you LIKE just AFK’ing on them ,but isn’t that one of the things that the opposing the mounts was against. Who cares what size the mount is, BLOCKING is not an issue anyway cause you can talk to any NPC by hitting the (F) button.
And this line “We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount.”
What difference does that make, you are so opposed to having mounts you justify what has all the makings of being a mount, as being ok cause it was not advertised as a mount, as a way to accept it. If it was not a part of town clothing and was a mount that could go anywhere , really what difference does it make. You already said that is was fun, so why try to make it so the idea of having mounts would not be any different.

sigh I also like turning into birds and flying form the crafting station to the trading post. Not to mention crafting as a bird or some other tonic induced transformation. Those are also fun for me. and serve the same function as hover on a broom.

Something called a “mount” and bought as a “mount” raises certain expectations and has certain connotations. The primary purpose of a mount is to travel. the primary purpose of that broom is to pretend to be a witch. Two very different things. You would not, for example, buy a mount that did not give a speed boost and allowed you to “zip around the map” as many of you pro-mount people like to say. There is no need for such mounts in GW 2 as we have waypoints and all classes have speed boasts and you can get speed boast buffs too. There is zero need for a “mount” in the proper “mount” sense.

Mount in WoW = necessary because they don’t have way points and the maps are designed to sink time travelling from one end to another. Mount in GW 2 = not necessary and if they were introduced as “mounts” but still made redundant because you couldn’t get a speed boast, you guys would cry even more!

Why do You think it has to be like WOW, I am all for something that has not been done before in WOW, you are the one who is hung up on this thought process that it has to be like WOW.

Evidently you played WOW, since you can easily compare this game to that. You know what, Wow had waypoints too, they were called Portals, your reference holds no weight.
Oh and you can pretend you are on witch on a broom mount also, make a better case.

Tinni.4351:

Gummy.4278:

Enikuo.9205:

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

And you get to ride them in town right , oh no what ever will the nay sayers do…

Well the Witch’s Broom can’t be used for obstruction, which is what a lot of people were worried about, and secondly, they are clearly for the lols. It’s fun riding them from the trading post to the crafting station and vice versa and also to just hoover while waiting for a group. I am not even sure if it gives a speed boost or just feels like it does. It’s just a gimmick, not a proper means of transportation. We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount. If it were and it cost X gems, there would be even more people complaining about it then they are about the halloween skins dropping from Black Lion Chests.

I like how you contradict yourself by saying “It’s fun riding them….and also to just hoover while waiting for a group.”
SO they are FUN, SO you LIKE just AFK’ing on them ,but isn’t that one of the things that the opposing the mounts was against. Who cares what size the mount is, BLOCKING is not an issue anyway cause you can talk to any NPC by hitting the (F) button.
And this line “We are happy with it because the broom is not advertised as a mount.”
What difference does that make, you are so opposed to having mounts you justify what has all the makings of being a mount, as being ok cause it was not advertised as a mount, as a way to accept it. If it was not a part of town clothing and was a mount that could go anywhere , really what difference does it make. You already said that is was fun, so why try to make it so the idea of having mounts would not be any different.

Fievre.4510:

Valnar Arylith.5793:

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Beastmaster
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak_Rider
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necrid_Horseman

Yep, never have any form of mounts ever been in the lore.

Speaking of lore, it makes a lot of sense to have miniatures.

I forgot about the Necrid Horseman and this guy too.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Banished_Dream_Rider

the problem with a dungeon like that …its gone with the end of the event….who the kitten wants that….there is more content coming hold on to your broomstick.

Don’t get me wrong ,I would like to see another dungeon… maybe cool to costume brawl the dungeon so that instead of normal skills, you do the dungeon with a costume brawl skills and do it with 5 people …but still would not want it to go away when Halloween is over.

Enikuo.9205:

Tinni.4351:

It appears that Anet has given-in to player pressure and implemented mounts! By that I mean, broomsticks! Quidditch anyone?

I was indifferent to mounts until I got the witch’s costume and now I think they’d be cool. At least I’ll have my broom : )

And you get to ride them in town right , oh no what ever will the nay sayers do…

Valnar Arylith.5793:

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

The dev’s already said no, really, If you have the link showing that I would like to see it.

And if you don’t like people making a suggestion for something fun, then don’t play simple….I know it sounds just plain stupid, but I read it the same way when I read yours.
Lore wise, I have to explain this again, NPC had mounts you fought them in GW1 , nightfall we got to ride on the inside the Junundu and GW2 has loading screens with people riding on dolyak’s and last night during the Halloween quest one of the ghost in LA tells you she died cause her Horse kicked her.
The only nonsense I see is the fan-boy-ism. Really if you were a true fan boy you could prove that all that stuff I said is wrong.
And if nobody else has noticed, we are playing in a Magical World, which means what seams Impossible to our real life world, would be possible in the other world.

shouldn’t we get housing first, I mean then it would be possible for you to stay in the closet or come out of it ….just kidding. But yeah might go well with housing, if that ever comes about.

Wow just did a Halloween using the Candy Powered Matter Meter and the little girl Serene got killed by a Horse, interesting!

The problem with your suggestion is like all suggestions, they have to be put into the suggestion forum, which the dev’s do not read anyway.
So your suggestion of how to make suggesting easier to suggest is suggestible but probably not suggested.
But for all the good it does, I hope it gets in.

robinsiebler.3801:

No! Maybe when guesting is available and works and is free, but not until then.

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Is there an echo in here?

Herald.9412:

When did I mention Blizzard’s issues?
If you want to know what kind of rubbish releasing API resulted in, look at Jamba. A WoW mod that lets one player dual box up to as many clients as they want with almost full automation using WoW API.

You agreed that you liked gather for Wow so I thought your whole statement was about how the API in wow had issues that surely would follow in gw2 if they did the same.

well one thing about Blizzard is they allow multi-boxing which should not be an issue there. And GW1 they had little programs like multi loader that allowed multiple game accounts to run at the same time. I now know Anet’s stance on multi-boxing which is they do not allow it. And I think that they will probably have that same stance on not just releasing the API, but allowing addons no matter what types, as they would not be able to fully control the things the community might make.

But yeah something like that could have a problem with a game like GW2 that is fully over ran with Bots, like a kittenroach infestation they can not get rid of them fast enough. But from what I seen of the bots in game so far they do not need the API to mutli-box and fire the same button at the same time.

Mara Gossep.2761:

Please don’t. Unless they are implemented in a new original way.
Example:
Pulling out your mount from your bagpack, as in other games, is one of the most stupid things ever.

So now you want us to have a Bag of Tricks to hold mounts. You do realize that in a fantasy environment, we have all kinds of ways of doing the impossible. http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Bag_of_Tricks

But hey, I am ok with summoning them too , which means I say the incantation and it just appears from nothing.

Or we could go the calling method which means, we whistle and the mount runs up from a distance and we get on.

Do you have a better suggestion?