Guild Wars 2

That’s true. Especially in GW2, where every class can work as pretty much anythink. Picking class here does not make you to fulfill a certain job, in example guardian do not have no be tanker. I do love how interesting every class is.

I’d pick guardian or necromancer – thief works well as solo roamer, but guardian and necro are much more versatile. What is more guardian may not work as solo roamer as good as thief, BUT he’s strong in every other game mode. Necro is good in pvp, so he might be a good choice too. I enjoyed necro the most.

I know you only asked about guard/necro/ranger/thief, but maybe you should also consider engineer?

Why you didn’t mention engineer in both pvp and wvw? I always thought they are pretty much op, what is wrong with them?

I remember there was one topic in which tier system was used. I wonder which classes are god tier after those changes. I think engineer is a beast – he was strong (ok, maybe in pve he lacks of some utilities) but now he’s in very good spot. I’m happy to hear warrior is not totally op now.
I don’t know what to think about those changes – now it seems that every single class is strong, so game is quite balanced (ok, maybe except necro in pve) – I think there will be more engineers, mesmers and rangers as they got some love finally.

So basically ranger is still trash in pvp, no big changes for necro – still worst class in pve.
Guardian was and always will be stronger more than enough.
Warrior was nerfed, but not much enough to make him ‘balanced’ – still desirable in every single game mode.
Ele – still number one ~dps wise, excellent in pve, at least very good in pvp.
Engineer – I do love changes for engineer. God in pvp and more than good in pve.
Mesmer – god in pvp and pve – mesmer got some nice buffs.

Is that true what I wrote?

Hey guys,

What would class (with builds) ranking after those new changes look like? I really liked tier system, which will change dramatically from what it was earlier. What would be the best team comp for endgame? So, basically – everything about which class is better and which class is worse and which one to pick.

Greetings!

After this video I opened GW2, created little, cute female asura necro and start lvling her as fast as possible. I’m not judging your skills, because I’m worse and less skilled player than you are, but the video was great. It is well made, it was pleasure to watch it. I do really like it.

Ele – I’m yet only 70, I used to die in dungeons a lot at first, I picked every possible utility to survive more, to be honest at first I just wanted to survive, but every single run I became better and better. It is so much work on ele to be good, but I think it’s rewarding. You are wanted in dungeons, conjure weapons are very useful too..

Don’t know how is ele in pvp, heared you are trash if you are not good, but god if mastered. It’s the same with every class, but for ele gap between being bad and good is huge.

I wanted to say: pick necro.. Yeah, then I read you want to pve.. I wonder if I could play necro, but I’m scared of wasting time on something which won’t work at endgame.

I’d suggest you to explore. There are faster methods such as crafting, but it will cost you ~25g/each profession 0-400. You will also need money to gear at lv 80. If you powerlevel you skip the most interesting parts of game – jumping puzzles, unexpected dynamic event and more. Exploring is very enjoyable, not very fast, but fun. The reason why others use other ways of leveling is because they are bored to explore for the x’th time.

Behellagh.1468:

What content are you running? I’ve seen an hour a level as a rule of thumb. Sure starting from level 1 the first dozen or so levels are much faster than that but 80 levels in 14 hours?

It is possible. If you have enough money then you ckittene crafting. First few levels is a moment. I think than you need only ~25g for each crafting profession from 0 to 400. 400-500 is like ~150g I think. If you have that money then it cannot be your first char so you will have some crafting stuff in bank.

Cyrill Faust.9340:

I would just save your skill points, You need 20 per ascended piece and 200+ for a Legendary.

I’m just curious – how many skill point can be obtained? 200+ is a large amount..

Thanks for tips. I try to save as much resources/karma/money as possible especially that I have a little of those: ~120k karma, ~110g and like 80% of crafting collection. I’ve done most of crafting up to 400 except weaponsmithing and leatherworking. I’m doing dungeons and sometimes I get some nice stuff which is proper for my class/level and I make money by selling things, when I’m lucky with run I get like 3 exotics in a run and it’s a really nice money burst.

Not to create new topic so I’ll ask here: how should I spend my skill point? I have like 25 free sp, most important abilities unlocked. Apart of this wvw stuff is there anything to spend sp?

Does better gear have large impact on leveling? Does it matter much in dungeons or you are fine with your green/blue gear even in dungeon? You know, stay difference between lv 45/50 green and 60/65 yellow is huge.

Hey friends!

I’ve got lv 66 elementalist, leveling isn’t hard in my opinion, but while leveling I had one problem. Is it worth buying more expensive gear before lv 80? I found in tp lv 65 exotic gear, but it was obvious for me that there is no point spending ~30g on armor set only. I bought rare masquarade set, lv 65 accessory, rings and amulet with +power +precision and dagger,scepter also rare with +power +precision and some vitality I think and some runes.

What’s your opinion on this, should I always buy the best gear possible or rather look for cheaper one (I mean – at least rare) and save money until 80?

Or you can buy razer orbweaver and/or razer naga. You will fall in love with this setup and it will give you like +10 on how good you can perform with your char, in any mmorpg game. You have so many keys that I can’t think of any game in which you are able to use full potential of this setup. I mean, keyboard also has many keys, but in my opinion it’s not very comfortable to use it and what is the most important thing – every key can be used easily and fast. I know they might be quite expensive, but once you buy them you will never go back to your keyboard. I used to play on razer blackwidow, but even if orbweavers keys are worse it’s compensated by how fast and easily you ckittene your skills.

Sorry for a little offtopic.

DreamyAbaddon – you are one of the most helpful players I’ve ever met..

pangolinman – trust him, relally, he heleped me A LOT!

You might be right, especially with #3.. I love my female asura engineer, she’s so cute, but this might be true that most people prefer more traditional class look, which is, in example, norn guardian or sylvari ranger..

Another thing might be that not everyone prefer challenge if they can take warrior, which is said to be op in.. everything.

I do understand why mesmer might be the least played class, but I can’t get what’s wrong with engineer.. I’m only lv 30, I’m quite new to GW2 and in my opinion engineer isn’t that hard.. I’m using 3 kits + healing turret at the moment, the only difficulty might be to remember which skill is responsible for blindness, which causes burn etc.
But, yea – in comparison to warrior or guardian engineer might look complicated to control him.
Ok, wish me luck in learning engineer, it’s going to be a long road tho.

I’m NOT an experienced player, but I’m sure that engineer isn’t boring. I mean, depends what ‘boring’ means to you, but engi has so many options, that it shouldn’t be ‘boring’.. But this is only my opinion.

Thanks for replies, you all helped me a lot.

I have got one more question – what makes engineers such a controversial class? You know, they are said to be either op or up. There are people who say engineer is the worst class to both pve and pvp and others say that engi is one of the strongest class, who can 1vX while still being able to help team in dungeons a lot.
Is it about skill cap, which is very high for engineer and simply majority of people don’t know how to play it or something different?
Elementalist is also very complex, it has even more skills than engi, but ele was easily judged to be op after those new patches and before them it was quite weak. I can’t understand why is engineer such an unique class that so many many DIFFERENT statements were made about it.

So, it is rewarding to master engineer, isn’kitten I mean, every class is worth it, but engineer’s skill cap is higher, so is reward also higher?

Also, I’ve read that dmg engineer can perform is one of tle lowest. On the other hand there is one quite fresh topic in which I read engineer is top tier in terms of dmg. Any class can be built for dps, I know this, but how’s engineer’s dps if built properly?

That’s a good question. I couldn’t decide which class fits ele and engineer better.. Lv 30 is so easily reached that I didn’t waste much time.

I’m not kind of player who play every class, but I stick to one class and try mastering it. That’s why I created this topic – I enjoy engineer and thief, I like their playstyles, still can’t decide.

Hey friends,

I’m still thinking of which class to main, even if I lved my thief, 2 engineers, guardian, 2 elementalists, mesmer and warrior up to 28-34 lv. I know it’s not high enough, but I can say which class I like more. I’ve tried every single weapon and I’ve also tried wvw to see how those classes work in different scenario.

So.. My favourite is engineer, even if skill cap is very high. I’m only scared of the fact that engineer is said to be one of the weaker class. Of course I understand it’s more about player skills more than class, but I have to be sure that it is rewarding to master engineer.

Pve isn’t important for me, but I’d like to be something more than just a trash that noone wants in his party. How’s engineer in pve in comparison to thief?

Pvp – I’ve heared engineer is a pvp class, but is that true? Can I support my team? What about solo roaming? Can I have a little comparison to thief?

I’d be grateful for little comparison between engineer and thief in terms of pve, tpvp, wvw. I know there are so many builds that we can build warrior to be trash in pve and at the same time we can build engineer to be top tier dps or amazing bunkering class, but let’s say we have optimal thief and engineer builds, who shines more at pve and pvp? Who can support team better?

Oh, great, I do understand everything now. I’d also sorry for my ignorance, I just didn’t get the point of your previous post. Thanks for clarifying me the state of elementalist.

To sum up with, it’s not dps what makes one class worth more than other in terms of damage, but rather burst?
I just don’t get why would you take ele instead of warrior if dmg is similar and warrior can give some serious support (at least better than ele’s).

So, if ele’s dps is near warrior’s or thief’s then what’s the point playing it? No offence, I love playing elementalist, I’m just curious.

By ‘alright’ you mean that it’s playable if you are desperated to do it, or it’s doing at least ‘good’ in both pvp and pve?

Hey guys,

There are topics like this one for other classes, but I couldn’t find any in ‘thief’ subforum. So, guys – what is the current state of thieves in both pvp and pve..?

Thanks for replies!

Why noone mentioned hammer? I heared that guardian with hammer is a ‘must-have’ in every team and if there is one then you can take sword/focus setup.

I’m not experienced player, so what I write is what I’ve heared earlier.

As far as I know dps builds are prefered in endgame speedruns. Also wvw is mostly about being roamer and again – dps is better than bunker build here.

Hey friends,

After trying every single class I felt in love with guardian. The first issue I had to deal with was to choose weapons. I’ve read majority of topics, but most of them were created before 2014, so before those 2 patches (April and June). I want to ask what are the best weapons for new pve guardian. I know that dps guardian is much more useful than the support one, so I took GS as my first. Now the second weapon – I was thinking about hammer or staff, but s/f also seems interesting.

Thanks for any help.

I found this guide helpful and I’m really grateful you created it. Guide gives quite deep explanation on how combat in GW works and it speeds up learning process of newcomers. Videos are a grate adventage of this guide also, as it’s definitely much easier to understand some things if you can see them.

It’s a great guide, pretty much one of the best in my opinion. I found it very useful because GW combat is unique so for some people it might be hard to get into when they first meet it.

Hey Dreamy,

I’ll be online in like 2 hours, at 2.00 am for me, hope to catch you in game. IMO it’s always you meet newbies who simply can’t use full potential of a class. Nevermind, we can Close this topic then.

So the most drawbacks of being engineers are condition damage and removals? The thing is if char can handle 4 other players there must be something wrong with them. I’ve seen this ‘immortal engineer’ on YouTube and honestly that’s quite odd. As a new player in GW2 the first thing I did was seeing YouTube records of every class. I’ve seen those spectacular burst builds, immortal bunkers. I know it’s most often about killing noobs/newbies who don’t know their’s class but still – haven’t seen any other class except engies who could fight more than 3 players at once.

Hey guys,

I’ve got one simple issue. I’ve read many posts about which class is better over others and I have noticed strange thing: engineer isn’t said to be that powerful class (I know there is no OP class here, but he is weaker that for example d/d ele or bunker guardian, at least that’s what I’ve read) but he can handle 1vs3 or even 1vs5 situation.
If it’s about duels then you can say that enemy is weak/noob, but fighting 4 or 5 people, EVEN if they are not ‘pro’ is something worth highlighting. What is more I haven’t ever heared or read about any other class being able to fight with more than 3 people at once.

So, what’s bad about engineers? Be objective.

I didn’t want to create this topic in Engineers subforum, because you will always meet only positive opinions about certain classes.

You don’t need it. I’m using razer naga 2014 and razer orbweaver, but normal mouse and keyboard is enough in my opinion.

It’s funny to see guardian with scepter and focus, mesmer with greatsword and elementalist with two daggers. It looks pretty unique. Sorry for offtopic.

On the other hand how could he mention that people may give tips for service, I’m 100% sure noone would pay him if he didn’t wrote it, not because they don’t want to, but they wouldn’t think of the idea of paying. If he’d wrote: ‘2g per service’ it would be strange, but you don’t have to pay, it’s up to you. I’m not defending or offending anyone, so forgive me if it sounds like that.

I think it depends on how do YOU define ‘fun class’. For some guardian, even more – bunker uber tanking guardian would be great, for me it’s boring. For some mobility is a key so those people would take – in example – thief. For others then it is challenge and class complexity – so they pick engineer or elementalist. There is also a group of people who always take summoners – so they pick MM necro or ranger with his pets.

I’m grateful for responses, didn’t even suspect this community would be that helpful. If we are talking so much about classes we can try to create rankings, which class shines where. My suggestions are: wvw, dungeons, small scale pvp and mass pvp. Let’s sum up all of other threads about x class or y class. We can make it simplier and give just top 3 classes for every mode.

It’s about something different I think. It’s like in the real world – you can furnish you room by yourself, there are tons of possible room set ups in the Internet, but there are people, whom you pay money for furnishing your room in a specific way. Why? Just because some people cannot do it by themselves – not because they don’t want to, but no matter how hard they try – they will always end up with awfully room.

That’s one of the most innovative ideas I’ve ever met. Really, I love the idea as it’s true that some people just don’t have sense of fashion. It’s not always like you will copy-paste other’s look, because it may not fit your character sometimes. I don’t know why there is so much hate..

Hello again,

In this topic I’d like to talk about usefulness of burst builds. How viable are they nowadays and how would you rank burst builds of each class? (from best to worst)
I’m not experienced yet, but after reading and watching much I can say I’d really enjoy playing burst. Currently I’m lvling my elementalist, guardian engineer at the same time, because I’m not still decided which one to pick for my main.

So.. I found guardian burst interesting, but I guess they lack in mobility, what makes him quite easy to kill in 1vs1 situation. Elementalist’s burst also seems interesting, as they are mobile and they have chance to run away, but they are squishy as hell, I’m afraid they are TOO squishy..

What are your opinions?

TheBandit.7031:

If he wants a challenge that’s one thing, but he said he wanted a fun class, and I don’t consider an ele to be that fun anymore.
I also find the elementalist to be a bit boring these days, so it wouldn’t be a very fun road to 80. That’s just my opinion on it though, others probably disagree.

In my opinion challenge is a part of what makes class fun. Let’s look at traditional tank, so something similar to bunker guardian – you basically don’t die, but it’s only about standing and taking aggro, while being caster (or any other cloth-leather armor class) means much faster and dynamic game. I’m not very experienced GW2 player yet, so I might be wrong. From most to least fun (classes only, without builds):

1. Engineer
2. Elementalist
3. Mesmer
4.Thief
5. Necromancer
6. Ranger
7. Warrior
8. Guardian

But still, it’s only my personal opinion, someone else might find other classes enjoyable.

TheBandit.7031:

Well the elementalist still can deal a lot of damage and makes a deadly glass cannon. Staff ele is still pretty fun in WvW as well and good in dungeons. I wouldn’t recommend it as a first level 80 though, or even a second.

Why you don’t recommend ele as first char? I know that playing heavy classes is much easier, but if he want challenege, why not to pick hardcore class like elementalist? I also picked ele as a first, after trying heavies, which seem booring as hell and I think I made a right choice. I think challenge is much more fun than easy mode?. But that’s only my opinion.

Not to create new thread, let me ask you something – if we are talking about, let’s say – dueling – we mean very skilled players, but how many that skilled players are there? Is it like 50/50 or it’s more like 1% of all players are masters of their class? How often I’ll meet top players? In my opinion it doesn’t matter which class you pick in any game – if you play against unskilled, casual player you will always win.

Whoa, guys – your replies make me feel excited about elementalist. Seems that ele is my dreamed class – hard to master, highest dmg potential, useful in pvp, not that bad healing abilities.. On the other hand isn’t burst guardian better in pvp than burst ele?

I do really like challenges, that’s why I don’t play warrior or guardian which are more like easy modes. I choose ele, because of dmg potential, but I believe every class can work as anything. I mean, after reading much I assume there is possibility to make burst guardian which is going to do more dmg than defensive warrior. That’s what I love in GW.

But still – if we build every class to let them do as much dmg as possible – is ele top damage dealer?

Are elementalists really higest damage class? Is it that squishy that I’ll have hard time surviving in pvp? How pvp works, is mass pvp really teamplay or just anyone duels others?

It’s true that most often people complain about how weak certain class is in comparison to other classes and noone say how strong their class is, but it might be funny to see topic like: ‘I love my guardian, he’s really strong!’

Anyway, at first I thought that GW2 lacks in class balance, but after your replies I can see how great it is.

Thanks all for your help, I’m going to lv my elementalist and then I’ll see who’s going to be next.

Love you guys!