Guild Wars 2

Bragging rights and griefing are two of the major things that ruin games, imo. Bragging rights to a certain extent of course make sense, such as say carrying around a legendary, but I strongly suspect you actually mean stomp casuals and smile about it. Not every game has to cater to the top tier. Having more than one way to get something is a good thing. Griefing is just not okay.

I will say I am all for harder, more complex dungeons and even raiding of a kind, as long as it remains five people.

I have played this game since launch and I am still having fun. It’s a mentality issue. I’m not even saying your way of playing is wrong. I’m saying it’s wrong to come to a game specifically designed differently and complain that it’s not what you want. I also don’t perceive the leveling process the way you did, it seems. I don’t think leveling is designed to function wholly in a combat environment. There’s a lot to do, including personal story, and not every heart is combat oriented. As a former WoW raider this game is a pleasantly different experience. I got sick of running on the treadmill over and over again so here I am, happy. If you want to run the treadmill, go to one of the many, many games that provide that.

Bame.7963:

@ HumaCarrionEater.8254

So let me get this straight. This games intended design was for players to level in a combat oriented environment for 2 weeks (or until 80.), and then shift focus to farming clothing for the rest of their existence?

What’s the point? just buy a barbie.

Oh please don’t do the whole people who are happy with the game are blindly optimistic fanboys nonsense. You’re overestimating your worth as a paying customer. If you want a game that has gear treadmill and raiding and level eighty gated content just go play a more appropriate game instead of complaining about this one that was never intended to provide such an experience.

Bame.7963:

I’m sure Anet appreciates all of you who just say “this game isn’t for you. The door is that way”. I think you fanboys are worse for this game than the actual game itself.

“GW2 population has been steadily declining since January 2013….”

citation?

I don’t see how this is terrible game design. Getting to eighty is not really the ultimate goal. It unlocks very few things. And progression, if you will, is mostly appearance based. The game has always been upfront about not being about treadmill or gated content unlocks and frankly that’s what I love about it. Why should your level shut you out of important stuff?

Bame.7963:

Just hit 80, it took me under 2 weeks. I bought a set of exotic gear with gems, thinking it would be a good base to start grinding the higher end gear, only to find, it IS the higher end gear. Really? That’s it? There’s no tiers of end game gear to pursue? sPvP everyone has the same gear? There are no higher tiers? This is a HUGE disappointment. This game went from being the most beautiful and fun game I’ve ever played to absolutely pointless. What the hell are people supposed to do at 80? Cosmetics sets? LOL.

If the game doesn’t provide any 80 content to work for, it should at least take more than 2 weeks to level up. Horrible game design in my opinion.

If I understand it, it’s because certain dyes show up differently on certain materials which to my mind is actually cool, more realistic. Try sorting your dyes by material and going from there.

I’m really not invested in that style of immersion. The pain of trying to find reliable competent groups only increases every time the required number of players goes up.

Zoid.2568:

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

I am totally down for raid style/difficulty encounters AS LONG AS they still only require five players. Trying to get a group bigger than that to do anything coordinated sucks.

It kinds of ruins the feeling of a large scale battle if there’s only 5 people.

I am totally down for raid style/difficulty encounters AS LONG AS they still only require five players. Trying to get a group bigger than that to do anything coordinated sucks.

xephire.8324:

The art style is fantastic,the events are breathless. Im stumped and wordless to describe this game.

I’ve been playing since launch and I still agree!

This comes up so much that I have been reduced to just saying NO.

I would buy these so hard.

Oh, I don’t mind randomness at all! I’ve had good experiences in Map too, and I still think we’re one of the most helpful MMO communities out there. I’m talking about things that are very charged, loaded topics handled poorly, and furthermore when someone points that out and asks people to stop, the person doing the asking gets attacked as well.

Warzaw.2708:

I’ve kinda gotten the sense that Queensdale chat is now the Barrens equivalent.

Honestly, I don’t see a problem in people joking around or rambling on about random topics in map chat. I’ll usually jump in myself and joke around, some guy was talking about a unicorn chasing him in Queensdale he was trying to kill, so a few of us we’re trying to give him tips to fighting in, and listing other beings that were attacking as well.

A few times in LA I’ve seen some major arguments about actual topics start up, and some shorter ones as well.

If people aren’t trying to dictate what they’re saying as the complete truth, and still willing to accept that someone else has a differing opinion during a discussion, I see no harm.

If someone is putting someone down, or a group, etc. then it becomes something a little out of hand.

Otherwise, I don’t mind the nonsensical chats going on, and will join in on them myself if they’re any bit interesting.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

If I’m not mistaken, most creatures that are bio-luminescent are also poisonous. Some of the colors of leaf patterns on Sylvari and the thorned hairstyle lead me to believe that perhaps Sylvari also contain toxins common to plant protection?

Its not a very strong theory, and more creative curiosity, but I was wondering if maybe this could affect possible future racial skills?

I did model my necro on a poisonous tropical plant type thing, but I don’t know if it’s meant to be a trait that is assumed for all Syl.

Really? I don’t think I see this selfishness. Do you have some examples?

I actually like the Nightmare Court. I get sick of three dimensional bad guys, as weird as that sounds. I don’t find it very realistic. In the real world there are many people who have motivations as simple as murder people so I can get off on it, or manipulate others because it’s fun and I like to see how much I can get away with. You’re more likely to find a psychopath Nightmare Court style in the real world than you are a Hannibal Lecter.

Something people miss with the Nightmare Court also is that you can’t take them at the strength of their ideas. No matter how great someone’s ideas are if they’re torturing people to get them to accept those ideas everything becomes wrong.

Juunro.7082:

I’d be more interested in what they eat and how they process it, to be honest. Everyone always thinks of sex first, because, well, it is sex. The curiouser question to my mind is diet.

I read somewhere in a dev interview that their stomachs are actually pitcher plant sacs. I assume they eat basically what humans do but they perhaps process the waste differently. I don’t exactly see any Sylvari toilets lying around! I think that’s something you could customize for your characters, since each Sylvari could very well be a variation on a theme. Your Syl could drop leaves, or give off a Co2 like gas instead of well, pooping.

Oglaf.1074:

When they are asexual? Apart from the fact that players need the ability to pick one in order not to feel shafted vs the other races?

Sylvari are not as a rule asexual. They have sex and have the desire for sex, most of the time. Gender and physical sex are also not concepts that always go together. One might have parts we consider male and therefore have a physically male sex as we currently define such, and yet identify as and be gendered as female.

For my guild I wrote out a little primer on how we do gender versus sex versus sexual orientation, because I see the Sylvari as being rather complex in that regard.

I’m sure this is going to get a lot of hate if Map chat is anything to go by, but this issue has been on my mind for awhile and I feel the need to say it.

Map chat is a pubic space and many different people use it, with many different life experiences and hurts and problems. Of course it’s mostly an open forum too and people can’t expect that the topics there will always fit with their world views.

However.

One of the things I’ve loved about GW2 from the beginning is that Anet has worked tirelessly to keep the general atmosphere elevated above WoW Barrens chat level. But they can’t do it all. We the community need to decide that we don’t want the kind of Map that allows people to be as offensive as possible for the sake of doing so. Frankly, if we condone such cesspits as have taken shape in other games it hurts the community. If you’re not sure whether you’re going to get hate in a random group, you’ll be less likely to join for one thing.

There’s a real attitude out there that when someone is offended it’s the offended person’s fault, no matter the subject or how callously it is being discussed by strangers. I want us as a community to realize that MMOs are social things, and that inclusion is important to the health of any social environment. Part of being inclusive is taking a certain amount of responsibility for the comfort of our fellows and avoiding big topics that tend to hurt, such as kitten and abuse, in the company of strangers. I often hear a lot of callous arguments against this, as if it’s people’s right to be hateful/offensive/joking. Perhaps so, but we’re trying to build and maintain a pleasant experience here. I find the arguments about free speech and the like very hollow. A question I often ask is, why are you so invested in using slurs or hurting people? No one can ever answer that. Nothing is being taken from you when you’re asked not to use slurs, for example. It’s very easy to eliminate these things from your vocabulary, once you take the time to do so.

So I come here asking that if you’re about to start a discussion about something like that or even worse make a joke in public, I ask you to reconsider. For me personally every time I see a cavalier discussion of say, kitten , it ruins the game for days. Just last night someone was actually joking about BEING a kitten in real life in Map. Please don’t justify it with some notion that this is just what we have to put up with if we want to game online. Let’s try and move away from victim blaming and keep Map a little but safer for everyone.

Thank you for reading.

I kinda find it offensive that you’re categorizing masculine and feminine that way. I don’t find flowers and the like to be a threat to my masculinity. In fact I enjoy it. The way some people complain about those things, well, for me I get sick of the opposite. That is, looking like a stupid kitten all the time. It’s like in some games they want you to look like a stereotypical twelve year old boy fantasy, dripping spikes and skulls, and I am bored to death of that. If you don’t like a legendary don’t go for it. You don’t need it. I think more are coming, too, so you may get your wish but some of us like what we have just fine.

Honestly so far I haven’t had problems finding dungeon groups who want to watch the cut scenes and all that. I have about 341 hours played and I am just now doing dungeons. Maybe it has something to do with my slow pace, or my server, but plenty of folk want to do story mode.

There’s so much we could end up exploring in the future, and I hope there will be story quests to go with it! I made a gorgeous character and I want to look at him and hear him say heroic smart things! And it makes for a nice break when I am bored with questing.

….(If anything, my complaint is that there’s usually no way to let them down gently. It’s either “Take me now, sub-creature!” or “You thought I was interested in you? Bwaahahaha! Get out of my feline cub face!”)

I had to turn Liara down in the first Mass Effect and it still bothered me two games later. I wish there was a no sorry, I’m flattered but I’m gay/straight option.

Once again my opinion is no. Tough content that takes five people, fine. Any more than that is a terrible idea.

I just have to say that I love the My Little Pony bow. I think it would be nice if everything had sweet particle effects, but I don’t want to look like a spiky kitten skull guy all the time either.

Ramethzero.3785:

Uh, those were completely optional scenes. No Bioware game has ever forced anyone to deal with homosexual scenes without giving the player chances to get out.

Most of that rage came from people who were curious about that part of the storyline and either played it through (or youtubed it) and then were horrified by the results. These people never accepted responsibility for their own part in it.

I’ve played DA2 twice and Anders does not force himself on you, nor does he go on about being bisexual. It’s like I played a totally different game from all the people crying about getting gay cooties. If you ask him about his former lover he tells you he doesn’t see bodies but is motivated by love. Note that you have to ask him about it. If you flirt with him he flirts back and is sad if you don’t want him after all. Weirdly I think most people don’t like to get rejected. And that’s it. The flirt options even have a different icon so it’s not like you can’t pick something else if you don’t want the romance.

So yes, I agree and every time I see someone whinge about it I rage.

I like the character, I just found myself annoyed in places because I felt his importance and my character’s importance should have been switched. I was thinking about it the other day though and I think they made him the star to avoid the whole you’re such a special amazing one of a kind hero….just like the other millions of people playing this game thing. I can live with it.

Some spoilers:

But that doesn’t mean I like it. I think he should have been your support, your friend and yes your destinies could very well be wound together, but to have him get Calabolg for example? That was bs. Especially since I already wielded it earlier. I should have gotten that. I needed to be special in a way that was apparent.

I haven’t even reached the end of mine yet, but I am curious if these will continue with the big expansions on the horizon. I really enjoy the inclusion of the personal story. It keeps the game from feeling too same-y with other MMOs. In particular I am enjoying the charr options, though Sylvari are my favorite race. I hope there will be more as the game evolves!

You don’t need it, maybe, but I do like it. (flaws aside)

When I get bored with whatever I am doing I do a chapter or two of the story. Breaks things up nicely.

I don’t support less planty faces. What makes the Syl so great for me is that they aren’t just generic attractive elves.

NO. Usually I have a more detailed answer but there’s so many mount threads that I am just going with that from now on.

As long as I am not forced to use it. My character is too cool looking to hide.

I have roleplayed for many, many years and I would never expect something like mapchat to be an in character space.

I really don’t want them at all but at least have it so you can’t mount in a town. I still think it clutters up all player areas, though. I don’t miss mounts at all personally.

I want this so bad. I don’t care how it happens particularly as long as I can obsessively dress my toon and organize his outfits/colors equally obsessively.

Everything you don’t like about customization, I love.

Yes! This is ridiculous and if they make their game a soulless gear treadmill I am going to feel pretty betrayed. I came to GW2 partly because I was sick to death of grinding just so I could experience the full game experience. I think you are spot on with some things that I personally would love to see as markers of success/work, especially skins and new gestures. That’s what I want most, the ability to truly customize my toon.

Somebody mentioned roleplay. Okay I’ll bite.

Here’s the thing about living breathing mounts. THEY ARE UNGODLY EXPENSIVE. Even maintaining a single horse is an incredibly expensive thing to do. So if you have waypoints and you live in a war torn world strapped for resources, why would you bother maintaining a bunch of animals that aren’t producing food/being raised for food? They’re breakable, they eat everything in sight, they need medical care, breeding them is also incredibly expensive and requires the land on which to do it, and they are limited by their own physical resources. You can ride a horse to death, even. So why maintain such creatures when current technology makes them obsolete?

Also given how often farms in Tyria seem to get the short end I don’t know how they could even manage growing enough hay before getting overwhelmed by murderous spiders or something. :P

This kind of creeps me out.

There are sexy sets by the way and I wish they weren’t there at all. But it’s obviously not going to die. This however is exactly why I don’t like it. Lololol let me roll a female character and essentially strip her naked so I can oogle her virtual attributes all the time.

Get some Winged set or something.

I haven’t really noticed with my male Syl, but I love my female Syl’s running animation.

Yeah so, straight up if this ever happens I am done with this game.

People aren’t trolling your thread. You are way too invested in this for some reason.

The idea of riding a centaur just creeps me out, honestly. They’re people, essentially. They’re not servants, or animals. I already find the way the centaurs are handled a little uncomfortable and this would make it a zillion times worse.

I am one of those people that doesn’t want mounts at all.

I am the opposite from the guy above me. I have an extremely small guild. I did in WoW, too, and when I had to take PUGers with me to fill in the gaps it was almost always a miserable experience. One of the reasons I enjoy GW2 is the fact that I can take my four friends and experience all the content. Just another perspective.

Methinks this is coming, maybe even on the 22cd.

Instanced, because I don’t trust people to create nice homes that fit with the world. It wouldn’t be long before someone figured out how to draw kittenes all over their roofs or whatever.

I would like this for events. The NPCs always seem to move at a pace designed to be super awkward for both running and walking.

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

EXAR.7963:

Loot, rewards, incentives? Like it or not these are the things that keep the vast majority of people playing.

Even if the “vast majority” needs that gear carrot to keep playing, I would not want that for GW2. I am perfectly fine with GW2 being a niche game, same as GW1. Let those who do not enjoy the gear treadmill play GW2, and let the rest play every other MMO out there. Because honestly, if you do not like the gear thingy, you don’t have a lot of MMO’s to choose from.

You make a very good point. This game doesn’t NEED to be huge and draw in millions of players. I think people who love this style will really commit and keep things going with the cash shop. God knows I’ve spent a fair amount of money there already. I think things should be more specialized sometimes. Try to appeal to everyone, appeal to no one.

Many times over. I thought I was done with MMOs for good, but this is going to be my home for a long while, assuming they keep the good thing they have going and don’t compromise their vision.

I don’t want them. In practice in other MMOs I have played, people sat around on them cluttering up major cities. Or they outright abused them, by parking them over required vendors/quest givers.

I do not want raids, as in groups of over five people. Super complex raid like dungeons though I am fine with. Trying to find enough people to raid was horrible for me in WoW.

Ooh, I admit I do miss MyRoleplay and FlagRSP. NOT THAT I WANT ADDONS, because I absolutely do NOT want them. But an actual game feature that would let me do something like this? Yes please.

Relmord.3159:

I agree with this

Devildoc.6721:Key word is subtle, all these sexual orientation things need to be subtle.

And I have no problem with the orientation either just needs to be subtle becasue we do not know what some of the players age ranges are.

Yeah except no one truly says this about straight romance. Everyone SAYS they would because omg think of the babies, but it’s usually ACTUALLY only leveled at people who aren’t straight. The justification you’ve put forth is how people cover up the fact that homosexuality/bisexuality/whatever makes them uncomfortable.

Chadramar.8156:

Szin.1250:

My complaint is that there aren’t nearly enough same-sex relationships to make the world believable.

Yes. See, what actually is “forced” is a game world that is entirely, stereotypically heteronormative. Or devoid of women. Or devoid of people of color. Making a small effort to actually show some of the diversity that exists in the real world is the opposite of forced or artificial.

If we’d see a same-sex couple among the other species sometime too, that’d be awesome.

Absolutely this. I have been keeping a running tally of how many dark skinned npcs I see, while we’re on the topic, and so far I am up to three. I am level 52.

Also whenever someone says something like I don’t have a problem with <insert minority here> but…you can be sure that whatever comes next is going to be offensive and will in fact indicate a problem with said minority group.