Guild Wars 2

Yeah… but you also gotta agree that when it comes to roaming and small skirmishes the amount of tools a guardian have is quite limited.

Take a thief for example, the typical D/P

P#4 = Prevents stoms unless stability, med range, instantaneous, can be spammed 4-5 times….thats a lot of interrupts\
P#4 = Prevents rezzing, can also be used to great success 4-5 times in a row, you would be surprised how useful that is
Smokebomb = Can be used to temporarily stealth allies AND prevent a stomp because it blinds your opponent at the same time
Shadow refuge = I don’t need to explain how useful that is
P#5= lets u safely stomp 6/8 classes
D/P #3 = gap closer which cannot be blocked and blinds at the same time
D#2 = Leap finisher, can end up with 20s of frost aura and chaos armor if used correctly

Now, compare all this stuff to what guards have going for them. And see how much guards lack in WvW. Note that i only mentioned some of the extensive toolbox the thief has…. The guardian can take dmg like a champ, i will give you that, but as soon as 2 competent people focus you…you WILL die, even as healway

AoE Condition removal and traited WoR are the main reason why they even bring you to a party, and you have neither. What u are trying to do is min maxing your stats while forgetting your utility/support role. You are playing you guard more akin to a warrior tbh

Toss soldier runes in there, IMO

Hate to break it to some of you but guardians are free kills whenever i am on my thief and mesmer. I don’t know whether its because guard is my main and i know the class inside and out but in the battlefield the guards pose the least amount of threat for me.

If anything, to a decent thief or mesmer, the guard is more of any annoyance because of the Hammer 5 and GS 5….when and if they land. But forget them standing any chance in trying to kill you. And the funny thing is that even IF a guard gets the upper hand, they don’t have the means to chase and finish someone off, which is where the biggest issue lies IMO and why guards will always be mediocre in WvW

You see, in sPVP guards are great because if you push someone off a point you technically win, but in WvW if you can’t finish someone off than for all intends and purposes, you are worthless. Yes this is getting into 1v1 and 1v2 scenarios but one reason the thief and mes excell is the ability to push their advantage and finish off an opponent, something the guard cannot seem to do. Ofc the the guard is good and stability stomping lowbie warriors….

On my guardian i dread necros the most TBH and if i was inclined to run from soneone, it would be a necro. Thieves i can stalemate, mesmers are a tough nut but i do stand a chance. Necros…its like, kitten

For zerg definitely go guard. For anything else in WvW there are better classes

@ Harbringer

WTS Real Life.

GS: Twilight
Everything else: Fractal skin

Umm, for the 2.5 build:

15 points in radiance = lol —> back to farming Orr i see
No PoV
Very limited condition removal and no AoE cond removal
Im assuming honorable shield trait is a mistake and u meant purity in there
No imp consecrations --> another reason i think this is an Orr farming spec

Runes are a mess and i would just go ahead and use full ruby since u are at it.

In conclusion: this is nothing more than an outdated build with full zerker gear that lets you farm Orr like a champ. The 30/30/10 variant is superior in any way even when using the same gear setup.

Guards are only good in a zerg environment where ur AoE condition removal and Wall of reflection can be game changing. As far as roaming or solo is concearned, don’t even bother. Thieves and mesmers will tear you a new one.

So again, if u wanna zerg, go guard
If you gonna roam, go something else.

Fenrir.3609:

Silentstorm.7531:

I don’t see what the issue with AH is. Hmm I look away a little while guys start to forget what I started when the game began. Look you’re a guardian which means you should be protecting something. Ah is almost the core fundamental you should have. It actually helps heal and guard the team. Not as much as it used to but as I’ve shown for almost a year now. It does a kitten good job of it. When used correctly however just mashing buttons doesn’t help.

AH is a suboptimal support/bunker build compared to something like 10/30/30, especially in terms of “protecting something”.

In comparison it has reduced team heal output, less buff uptime, less condi clear, less group condi clear, less self/group stun/cc breaks, less blinds and weaker virtues. You also have far less self heal when solo bunkering down or otherwise caught alone.

AHEM allows you to stack up in something like knights with zerker trinkets whilst having enough self survive to faceroll in a zerg on in open pve. It can also work as an “anchor” in dungeons. But then, you can faceroll in a zerg in a fair few builds really.

For solo roaming it’s pretty darn poor and for most dungeons AH is simply overkill. You are more likely to bring more to the group with higher dps whilst still having group cleanses. If an anchor is needed and full clerics 10/30/30 is too much, then AH will do the job in that instance.

AHEM is far, far from a bad build and it can indeed be use as an anchor even in high level dungeons/fractals. But in my opinion it is simply not optimal in the vast majority of situations (speaking of the traditional 30/30/10 with knights and zerkers).

Ummm…. 10/30/30 is a pure DPS build with 0 team and party support. DPS fanatics like GK seem to advocate it but they do it in full zerker gear. The build is used as a secondary DPS guardian or when zerking trivial stuff like CoF

Assuming you are talking about 0/0/10/30/30 (gotta make that clear if thats the case), this build offers 0% DPS support to the party and only suboptimal heals in a PVE environment. The fact that you have good condition removal and long prot does not account for the fact that your party has to 4 man the entire dungeon. 0/0/10/30/30 in DPS gear is silly just as well

AH/EM is usually rolled with PoV and soldier runes and gives you 2 cond removal per shout as well as improved consecrations. The DPS when mixing knights and zerker gear comes to about 70-80% of that of a pure zerker build but has a ton of support, the anchor effect and can carry others.

Hmmm, 2 egomaniacs dishing it out. Good stuff.

/popcorn

/facepalm

Here we go again….Since when was knights gear bunker?

Vit lets take you big hits and condition dmg
Toughness lets you shed light but rapid hits.

What this means is that vit helps you survive burst while toughness helps you tank trash mobs better. In addition since protection flat out reduces dmg by 33%, it pretty much multiplies your health and +vit items by 1.33. What this means is that the more you stack vit, the better it becomes with protection.

You might have noticed but most deaths come from spike dmg, very rarely will you see a party wipe due to condition pressure, especially now that people run PoV + soldier runes. More often than not someone will get 1 shot by the archdiviner or the shaman during enrage. Also once you hit lvl 40+ fractals, you start seeing lvl 83 mobs which quite frankly cannot be tanked. Some of them are quite bursty, like the humanoid mobs in cliffside fractals who can 3-4 shot even guardians. Taking on one of those guys with 3.5k armor and 13k health is much harder than 2500 armor and 20k Health assuming protection is up

Last but not least, Valor already gives you 300 armor for “free” as well as another 150 by strength in numbers. Therefore its even easier now to hit the soft cap of 3k armor.

PS: Math gurus, please don’t hurt me. Im only approximating.

Brutaly.6257:

Charak.9761:

also the magic find % will be removed anyways.

And compensated for. It anything the removal of mf will make celestials more interesting.

Exactly. The idea floating around is either boon duration, or bonus stats added. Either one is fine since we benefit from both.

The MF in there was really what killed celestial because you were wasting stat points on an attribute which was borderline worthless. So even though you had like 10% more stats compared to regular prefixes, once you factored MF out, you were in fact gaining LESS.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

Hunter.4783:

CptAurellian.9537:

So I suggest that you think twice about your anti-berserker rants. That kind of rubbish is as annoying as Guanglai’s permanent anti-AH rants.

GK loses all credibility the moment he claims Guard DPS > Warrior DPS. I was thinking of registering to that scrub site (gw2guru) just to try to contest him but considering how he spams it and thinks the guard page belongs to him, i decided not to.

People are telling me that the warrior traits are broken (Berserker’s Power and Heightened Focus being stuck at their old pre-buffed values, despite that being the tradeoff for making them grandmaster traits) so yes, guardian DPS is undeniably better if that is the case. It is basically a toss-up between the two classes when the traits are working as intended, in their current form warriors are actually losing out even to necromancers.

I honestly think the warrior makes a better “tanky DPS” support class than the guardian does. I should start telling warriors “stop trying to be like guardians and just support already.”

Ugh…really. Are you gonna start over with your theories about warrior vs guardian DPS? Im not gonna get into theorycrafting but i can say that just by playing a zerker warrior vs zerker guard gives you an idea how much better warrior DPS is.

There is a reason people run CoF p1 with warriors…

In addition, try running a fractal with 4 guards 1 mes vs 2 guards 2 warrior 1 mes. The letter is gonna perform much better and clear things much faster. And no, not all the guards are anchor

Its so you can carry your entire group in fractals

Lord Trejgon.2809:

@Hunter O have set that might be good but I cannot heck it until I boost my 4,2k AP to this 6k

Remember to also mail that guy (Charak) 1c after you get those shoulders. Only fair since you did copy his look

Charak.9761:

Think everyone’s gonna copy this look soon…

Copy? Then you better trademark that look soon, might get a few copper thrown your way everytime someone buys cultural T3 and slaps radiant stuff into it.

With that out of the way, Its the ONLY decent combination for radiant armor. I have spent hours trying to mix and match armor in preparation for the upcoming shoulders today and i have still to find anything remotely better.

Probably, but at least i am man enough to admit it. You two on the other hand…

Brutaly.6257:

Hunter.4783

I call bullkitten. Burst, 3k armor, 18k health, 1k dodge heals. Ya, dream on

Pretty bad way to “try to learn”.

What i ment wasnt that i didnt have the time in general but I havent gotten the time specifically. With you or the behaviour you display, repeatadly by posting in offensiven manors.

If you are sincerely interested just check out my resent posts regarding celestials.

BTW who has said its a 0/5/30/30/5?

The only interest i got in celestials are infact that it might open up for more builds. I will post a 10k burst build i used in wvw with 5 celestial pieces that corresponds, statwise, to the build i mentioned above but it will be in “my” celestial thread and not for you exclusively.

More about that tomorrow.

I patiently await your wisdom, grandmaster of the guardian race.

@ Lonewolf

I used what is known as Sarcasm

PS: This is ridiculous, you are both full of yourselves. Im done here, keep stroking each others egos.

Hey now, all im doing is trying to learn my class here. No need to get in fanboi mode. Besides not everyone can be as cool as him. There are only so many ways you can trait for 0/5/30/30/5

Or you can stop trying to be cool (you are not fyi) and enlighten us

Indeed… Waiting to see this infamous Bursty Tanky healway build!

Brutaly.6257:

Personally I started that thread from a strict wvw perspective. I don’t do pve and I will never write in particulars when it comes to tpvp.

But I actually think there is a burst build in there, ofc not as high as my valk/pvt/ber setup but good enough and a lot more tanky, more supportive than 0/30/30/5/5. It will just take 12 sec to build for burst but after that it will hit almost as hard but with 3k armor. 18k health and 1k dodgerolls. And I also think it won’t be as dependent on JI.

I call bullkitten. Burst, 3k armor, 18k health, 1k dodge heals. Ya, dream on

Its called common sense Brah. Now, how about we stop talking about BK (though im pretty sure his ego is through the roof right after reading this thread) and focus on the matter at hand?

CptAurellian.9537:

So I suggest that you think twice about your anti-berserker rants. That kind of rubbish is as annoying as Guanglai’s permanent anti-AH rants.

GK loses all credibility the moment he claims Guard DPS > Warrior DPS. I was thinking of registering to that scrub site (gw2guru) just to try to contest him but considering how he spams it and thinks the guard page belongs to him, i decided not to.

Christos de Soufre.3802:

My main issue with the no-gold thing is the whole not-matching-my-FDS/LGG thing. It also isn’t all that settling with most of the Zenith skins. The T3 set is also has less of a “brilliant finish” than the Orrian. I mean, it looks nice, but…

You guys should see me try to shop for clothes. :d

It looks pretty good tbh!

Its true it doesn’t match the FDS but at the same time it makes the FDS more pronounced.

I don’t need to explain to you how worthless 20/20/30 is outside of CoF.

…although im sure u can farm Arah p3 just fine. Oh ya and be carried through fractals by a proper anchor.

The armor is too bring and takes away from the awesomeness of the shoulders and sunrise. Drop the whiteness on ur armor a notch or 2.

Try Fog dye on armor and celestial or icing on tabard
Try Dust dye on armor and icing on tabard

Additionally, try to match the rim of your radiant shoulders to the rest of your metalic armor. The back of the gloves is also similar to the rim of the shoulders (the metallic portion basically). If you use celestial it will stand out.

I believe both these metallic pieces are dyed silt or dust. You can also get away with fog and icing.

I would also suggest the anchor build with PTV or knight armor/weapons and zerker trinkets. Works like a charm. Should be pretty close to what you are looking for

Christos de Soufre.3802:

My issue with T3 + radiant is how weird the T3 looks without the pauldrons. And I think that the radiant vambraces look too weird by themselves. And T3 has been my main set for ages; need some new scenery. T_T Frustration!

Still looks better than orrian armor IMO. Try a whitish dye combination. Celestial on tabard makes it glow quite a bit and adds a nice complement to radiant pieces. Give that one a try

Devils.3679:

CptAurellian.9537:

Devils.3679:

20/20/30/0/0 simply best dps traits out.

Without Radiant Power? Not really.

yeah without radiant power. if you think one single ability makes a build……. gl and lol

Further proof that 99% of this board has not stepped foot outside of CoF1 and all arguments for GC guards are with COF1 in mind.

Carry on

Bro we aren’t talking about Strife’s build specifically, Strife is just a guy who is running the same content as me and a bunch of other guys. Strife is not the endall, be all guru of the guardians.

If a group or pug is able to make it through a lvl 48 fractal on daily basis they have some idea wtf they are doing and their opinion is equally as valuable. This is not WoW anymore.

With this out of the way, if you ran a lvl 48 fractal (which i doubt you do but anyways) you would notice that completion does not equal efficiency. So you can run it with 5 DPS classes and have a completely chaotic experience, take 3h to complete it, spend 1h at harpy boss, or throw in an anchor guardian (anchor =/=)Full soldier) and have a more enjoyable experience.

An anchor does 2 things:
1- Can take an extra hit, which is HUGE because its enough time for your endurance to refull or extra DPS time
2 – It attracts boss and regular mobs like a magnet. This means that while you are dodging and blocking hits, that warrior is throwing 34k 100bs (or whatever axe autoattack does). That mes is duking it long range and that thief is not wasting DPS time stealthing and rezzing your sorry kitten .

THAT is what an Anchor does. Whatever you lose in personal DPS, (which is not much mind you) you gain by having a more controlled environment. An anchor lasting an extra 2sec while focused by lvl 83 dredge = an extra 2 sec of your party which can DPS and not less likely you will wipe and reset the pull

Christos de Soufre.3802:

Man, you’re just ruining my morning. :d

.

Its what i do best

Seriously though, if you are bent on using radiant shoulders/gloves/helm mix em with Human T3. Dye the armor icing, or even celestial and you should get a pretty good match.

My guard is running dust on the metallic and icing on the tabard. Only difference is that i have twilight

Christos de Soufre.3802:

Don’t people just go full glass for PvE anyway?

Not really. The ones who have some clue what they are doing tend to mix in some knights pieces with the zerker to provide an optimal performance in any kind of PvE.

The ones who go full glass are the ones i am rezzing all the time or who are complaining they are getting kicked out of CoF1 for warriors.

Oh? Considering i pug fractal 48s daily i would say i have a pretty good idea wtf is going on. Im assuming you think the dude who made that guy also has no clue what he is talking about either.

@ nightzirch.3126

Even though i am completely against GC guilds in PvE i equally as much despise full soldier builds. It serves no purpose, you are merely a bunching bag who contributes very little to the party. Heck a support thief build would be better.

I don’t understand why people go for either extreme end of the spectrum. There is a lot of strength in balance.

Try to adopt what i call a semi anchor build. Zerker accessories/trinkets with knights/PTV weapon and armor. 0/0/30/30/10 spec. Soldier runes.

spoj.9672:

Guess you want the AH build with knights gear then. Its good while you get use to the guardian and for pugging. As you gain more experience there is no need and you can switch to a full dps beserker build which still provides team utility and support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWfgaA_MJw0

When will you warrior wanna bes understand that Ah and anchor builds have their own niche in endgame PVE? I won’t bother explain to you the details because those who share your mindset are braindead CoF farmers. I will just have to point you to the lvl 48 fractal guide

I can help you by telling you NOT to wear.

1- Orrian armor on a female human guardian. Its so out of character. You should continue with your full T3
2- Orrian leggins mantle portion dyed non abyss. It looks like you have a paper tower coming out your back. It looks extremely bad.
3- Wind/fire/lightning back pieces. As cool as they are, they clip hardcore with your legendary. In fact, it looks like your legendary is going THROUGH it and completely breaks the immersion. The only backpiece i would ever consider using with a GS is the fractal one because of it being positioned in such a way so that it don’t clip with most GSs

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Brutaly.6257:

@Lonewolf
Can you please post the builds you experiment with so we all can take part of your discoveries. Thx

It would be much appreciated so people can at least see if the build you started out with is optimized to begin with. This is really important, especially if you think you can improve stuff when using celestials.

I’ll think about it.

I’ve been using one build that I know is very effective and haven’t heard many people using it. I was quite surprised to see someone here using it, and using it well!

I’ve recently tweaked the build even more by changing some of the trait points and exploring a new tree with it, but I’m really missing some of the elements from the original build. I’m still messing around with it trying to figure out if it’s effective or not. So far, I’m really impressed with the numbers I’m seeing, but as I said, I miss the other trait line I took points out of.

I’ve also tweaked the gear setup again last night and got that missing 2% crit chance back up to 40% at the sacrifice of some power, but not enough to deter from doing it. I’ve got 2 parts of Celestial stats on it.

I’ll think about releasing it sometime. But honestly, I’m a bit afraid to. I’d hate for it to get super popular and then it get nerfed because of that. That’s the pattern I’ve seen with Anet. If a build becomes popular, it gets nerfed a couple months later.

Just like AH, EM and PoV have been nerfed every patch now, am i right?

Stop trying so hard to stand out pal, we have enough of those on these forums as it is.

All you did was run healway during small skirmishes or 3 way battles and showed us you are good at stomping downed players with stability on. Totally new and exciting.

The point of healway is to perform well when outnumbered. Show us some 3v1 or 2v1 fights like christos did all the time. THAT is the point of healway

A guardian is an inherently defensive melee class with lots of support abilities. EM + AH lets you maximize your intended class role which is tanky DPS. The semi DPS hybrid anchor build which you see in high fractals comes closest to the ideal design for the class.

What i constantly see in these forums is people trying to turn guardians into warriors. Some even claim the guardian does more DPS than a warrior. This comes from people who are trying to compete with warriors and mesmers in CoF1 and arah speed clears while having their egoes on the line.

The truth of the matter is: IF you want to beat speed clear timers, or play pure DPS you should roll a warrior.

With this out of the way, AH is not only good because of what it does, but you need to invest points in the valor tree to get it. From the valor tree you get 30% crit dmg (huge) and 300 armor. In other words, Valor and Ah improves BOTH you offensive and defensive capabilities. THAT is why its so good.

EM and honor synergise so well with AH thakittens a waste not to take em. Pure of voice is godly as it is and health/healing are good stats to have on any guardian build.

What im trying to say is that Ah+EM can provide so much survivability in group play that it can allow you to stack zerker gear too boost your DPS while retaining some form of tankiness.

I was also thinking about switching my ARMOR from knights —> celestials. But thats because crit dmg is very nicely itemized into the new celestial armor (hello 6% crit dmg on chestpiece) and you end up gaining more than you lose DPS wise from the switch.

Trinkets are definitely staying zerker though. 8 crit dmg on ring and 9 on ammy is way too good to pass up

No hard feelings, i understand how you feel. The problem with this forum is that everyone acts as if they are the best player out there, constantly own people 3v1 while in full zerker gear, wipe out 40v10 raids every day, clear lvl 48 fractals naked with only a zerker greatsword.

Oh, and they have hot girlfriends and a job that pays 100 grand a year.

Now back on topic

Y

Blame it on necro buffs

The problem is that 98% of the forumers base their ideology either on CoF p1 or being carried by perfectly balanced groups with anchor guardian, mesmer, warrior and a staff elly.

Outside of these 2 scenarios all they do is solo play, which you can complete with any kind of gear.

My advice from PUGGING fractal 48 for several months now is that full berzerker is NOT the answer to everything.
Try to balance your stats around with knights and/or PVT. The ideal setup is 50% knights/50% zerker. What you wanna keep in mind is that your accessories should always be berzerker.

Depending on your party set up u should have 2 armor sets and 2 trait set ups.

If you are the only guardian or you have a second guardian whois GC, you should be using 50% knights/50% zerker and be specced as 0/0/30/30/10, soldier runes help tremendously. Alternatively use lyssa and throw in a few valk pieces in there.

If another anchor guardian in the party: Feel free to go full berzerker armor and DPS traits since chances are you will be fine.

If solo you can do whatever u want cuz solo play is easy

Kjeldoran.3849:

Hunter.4783:

Sorry to interject guys but you are all getting carried away by theorycrafting at this point and forgetting 2 important things:

- Condition pressure from necroes right now is considerably more deadly than lets say a direct damage from a thief or warrior.
- When you are focused you will die, no amount of toughness will save you.
- Poison is being tossed around in WvW like candy, which makes pure sustain considerably less effective
With these 2 points, we can conclude that:
Vit > toughness.
Extra condition removal aside PoV is needed.

Therefore, soldier runes and lyssa runes >>> Citadel, divinity, and whatnot

You might want to consider a healthy dose of PVT armor /w lyssa/soldier runes and zerker accessories.

In fact, i would try to min max you build based on soldier/lyssa runes, not the other way around

1) for conditions i have a strong quantity of removers (which your build has not but ill explain this later)
2) sure if you are focused you will die… so this is the wrong point of view sorry.
3) read 1 and anyway is better to have tougness because poison damage is ridicolous but your incapacity to heal will lead you to death if you cant mitigate damage

vitality -> toughness is really wrong… i think you havent learned anything from wvw.
Vitality = thougness and you need to optimize both if you want to survive a bit more
only vitality? squished by the first zerker
only thougness? squished by the first full condition
the right is in the middle (said someone…)

When did i EVER say not to use toughness?
I don’t remember posting any specific builds either
I am merely suggesting that since conditions in general are more deadly in WvW than BS thieves, GC warriors or izerkers, you would need more vit than toughness.

I did indirectly mention that you are on the right track by using lyssa runes yet i didn’t specifically aim my post at anyone in particular.

So relax guy, no one is calling you out, don’t be so paranoid. I realize you are getting needless fire from the forum top theorycrafters with extremely big egoes but its not enough reason to jump on others needlessly

Sorry to interject guys but you are all getting carried away by theorycrafting at this point and forgetting 2 important things:

- Condition pressure from necroes right now is considerably more deadly than lets say a direct damage from a thief or warrior.
- When you are focused you will die, no amount of toughness will save you.
- Poison is being tossed around in WvW like candy, which makes pure sustain considerably less effective
With these 2 points, we can conclude that:
Vit > toughness.
Extra condition removal aside PoV is needed.

Therefore, soldier runes and lyssa runes >>> Citadel, divinity, and whatnot

You might want to consider a healthy dose of PVT armor /w lyssa/soldier runes and zerker accessories.

In fact, i would try to min max you build based on soldier/lyssa runes, not the other way around

Molch.2078:

Zedd.8239:

Molch.2078:

Our definition of “effective” differs, it seems.

And there’s a problem with that?

No. I’m fine. Our discussion started here:

Molch.2078:

Molch.2078:

If you survive in zerker as good as in knights as good as in pvt, whats the point in not running zerker?

Because not everything is about raw damage.

I had the imagination of myself fighting a mob with full health while a guardian in a heal spec trys to heal me. Our discussion was too much hate and too little information to clear that image. So I will ask you straight forward: What is the build you’re using?

Since Im the OP and you have the misconception that non zerker means full cleric (lol) i should probably clarify.

0/0/30/30/10
Soldier runes
knights armor/weapon
zerker accessories
DPS sigil, strength or Fire.

Good DPS (for a guard) while acting as anchor when needed.

Molch.2078:

Zedd.8239:

Clumsy.6257:

completely incorrect, the only boss fight i can think of in regular dungeons that isnt about raw damage … wait there isnt one

Oh so we’re only talking about bosses now? My bad. I thought there were other situations in the game other than that. Obviously my support build has absolutely no use in any situation in this game. Oh wait. It does. Almost everywhere.

You’re still lacking evidence… where do you need a heal-support guardian? Where is a little bit of heal better than damage?

Red bars to hit down, on the other hand, are everywhere…

Heal support in PVE? Way to lose credibility and show you know jack about the class. There are other things in between 20/30/20 in full zerker gear and Healway.

The entire Idea is that a more tanky guardian running lets say a mix of knights/zerker (50/50) and soldier runes is way more beneficial to the party than a DPS wanna be guardian. The mere fact that the somewhat tanky guardian can take a hit, draw agro from the boss or mobs and live alleviate a great deal of stress from the party. Would you rather have that glass cannon warrior or mes kiting the boss/mobs or DPSing full force?

And yes, you running 50% knights gear with some points in valor will near you the 3k armor mark and that usually will make you the preferred target over other squishes.

Not to mention that soldier runes and PoV can hugely alleviate condition pressure like when someone messes up in the archdiviner.

“BUT…BUT…MY ULTRA MEGA AWESOME GULDIES DO THAT FIGHT IN 3.2324242 MIN AND NO ONE GETS HIT…EVAHHHh!” ….Yeah thats awesome, but in more down to earth and common scenarios you see people getting hit and downed and a tanky guard will be able to get them up while eating a few hits from the boss

And please, i don’t wanna hear anyone talk about Arah, it has been beaten to death and most bosses soloed at this point.

Note: When i say tanky guard i don’t mean full PVT gear, i am talking about 50/50 knights/zerker. I have to stress it again cuz not everyone here has reading comprehension

As the title says, what is your best dye combo for the heavy T3 armor?

Mine is gold dye on armor and either ash or fluff on tabard