Guild Wars 2

Black para goner.7612

1-3 engis in mid-sized zerg can bring alot, if they know what they are doing.

The biggest problem of the class is the players that are playing it. And “great”kittenengineers that claim they can’t fit in GWEN, they just haven’t learned their class and don’t know what other classes doing. People like Rozbuska, that are smart engineers but seems never played organized group and never tried to compare themselfes to other classes in mature way.
Most of the time i see kitten builds and gear. Very tanky, or even condi engis or ft taging machines.
Class is awesome for small groups, roaming and it’s very good for big zergs. Hard to master this class for most ofthe people, because not many people knows how to play it and when u will find the engi zerg meta by yourself you got maybe 0 engineers in your friends list that u could discuss it with.

People that telling “what engis can do, other classes can do better” ? So if following this logic u don’t roll warrior because he don’t give u stability. The things that engi brings to zerg it’s his things, the things that guardian brings it’s his things, difference is u can have 6 guardians in your squad, but i won’t advice you to have 6 engis instead in 20-30 man squad. I’m playing engi/war/guard/necr. Most of the time engi, but i played other classes only wvw and i know what they bringing to zerg and what i can bring to zerg when i roll an engi.

Good constant dmg, healing and cleansing. LOW cc. Don’t dream, engis CC is low for large-scale. Yes we have enough survivability. ATM devs don’t even see the zerg engi meta because 90% of engis are really useless in 15-30 group, not because of the class though.
The movement and drill differs from other classes alot, u can’t move like warrior when u run bomb engi

And i personally don’t like much when i lead on engi when i see other engis arround…..why? Because i don’t know what are they doing and there is no easy to pick META for them and i know that it’s hard finding right build and stats without any good engi on a side, cause i went through tones of kitten builds with kitten stats to get where i am atm and i can’t say yet that it’s 100% perfect, but i can say for sure that i bring enough to my zerg to count as usefull unit as much as anyone from GWEN. Most of “great engis” is perplexity confusion spammers that need 0 skill master that roaming engi meta and after they stack 20 stacks of conf on enemie they don’t go zerg, they don’t try to invent and break the GWEN meta because it’s much easier and becasue they have “fake” statements of the class and low understanding of 15-30 groups fights.

Keep on going. If u apply to a guild with engi u must proove that u’re the right one and won’t be just an anchor for the group.

Sarahfull.4930:

Im not the biggest fan of the flamethrower, but in saying that if they made each ’ tick ’ apply burning instead of just the last one; I bet alot of people would be more happy

YES

cause it’s flamethrower afterall.

If must not damage much but it must burn all the freak out of the enemy! And blind must be a lil bigger radius.

SOmetimes i don’t like mechanichs of skill 2…but i can live with that.

sick things about condis when roaming.

Perplexity runes. I will specialize….engineers with perplexity runes. It’s the most kitten thing for me atm in roaming. I have no respect to those engis who running that, cause it’s the most broken runes in the game so far and it’s still in game and it’s still OP for such thing as roaming on engi.

On another hand about food.
+duration condi food is all OK.
-duration condi food is OK for roaming and OP for big groups.

Nerf perpl.
Delete lemongrass from the game, this OP food is used for a long long time already and that’s why dmg condis are not viable in big groups at all (not taking in account classic cleansing by skills and traits)
There will be still Loaf of suffon bread (-20condi duration-20%dmg while stunned, knockbacked, knckdowned) that is balanced.

2h hammer soon my friend….

The game called guild wars 2.

Join a guild – enjoy nice fights.

PPT is sick, dirty and unfair game where not everything decided by strategy, tactic and cooperation.

Wich server are you playing on?

http://www.gw2wvw.net/topic/guild-mists-event-eu

SIGN IN HERE!

flamethrower still suck in large scale wvw.

Tag alot, do nothing. Y, you ttrolling, but not the enemie.

Infamous Darkness.3284:

Ah I see, I am on the other end of the spectrum from Gizmo, I like that they are ground targeted and that you can lead your opponent with them. I also hate the way grenades work underwater they seem to move in a scalene triangle making it so between 1-2 of your grenades are always missing your target, not to mention that the attack speed of underwater grenades have already been greatly reduced, they went from a great underwater weapon to an incredible disappointment.

But if some people wanted a trait to make it auto attack that would be ok, I just probably wouldn’t use it.

They actually changed the mechanic of grenades flight for land and underwater 1-2 months ago and it leaded to very very bad efficient of nades underwater (chaotic launch), improvment of land nades (YES it got changed).

I liked the stream. Y, was some missunderstandings in classes abilities, but there are alot of time till balance patch and alot of mature people living good and full descriptions of their classes place in game.

But. They said that WvW, PvP and PvE need balance apart from each other! At last i heard that WvW is one of the game modes that is not PvE and not same as #esports node capping.

Balance the game more for WvW (ofc without harm to other game modes) and you will have alot people coming back to game.

#gvg

Josh Davis.6015:

In your opinion, what should the strengths and weaknesses of each profession be? What’s your profession’s kryptonite?

Thanks all! Let’s keep this constructive.

ENGINEER is my main class that i played for 2700+ hours, I love this class but i played it so much so i found out some unbalanced issues =)
I played all game modes (lieing, i play 70% of time wvw last 1 year) so i will try to cover as much as i can.

strengths
- mobility (pretty good – rocket boots, perma swiftness, jump shot, acid bomb, leg mod trait!)

- versatility in smallscale pvp/wvw (u can do good with condi/power adn even some bunker builds)

-support (do not nerf me it’s not OP, i’ts just good! Fumigate, super elixir, healing turret, healing bombs – wvwlarge scale or/and any other instance where this type of skills neded)

-strong against theifs. Really, i found that alot of engi skills, traits etc are working good against thiefs. Good or bad doesn’t matter. But i think It goes more as thief’s kryptonite then engis good side. Can’t be more detalized, just telling from my roaming wvw/pvp expirience.

weaknesses

- self condi cleansing (specially confusion, it mostly goes about wvw and pvp(y, esports) large/small scale), we got some good condicleansing skills but if we could see some changes to AR or/exliri C it would be awesome, cause atm they not making they role as they supposed to(to counter high condi enemie builds).

- stability/stunbreaker lack. It’s ok for PVE, it’s bad for pvp, it’s bad for wvw large/smale scale. The amount of AOE/single CC skills that other classes AND oppopnent engis can have is ridicoulously big and u ussually can’t just put this together. Yes i can go stun bunker as i do, but only problem is i’m not defended on 100% but i’m a dummy that get’s low dmg -53% in pvp (via trait) -73% in pve and wvw (via traits and food), but i’m still vurnurable to condis!! For this part i see as suggestion to rework some of the elixirs and traits for them for example Exliri B -(40% duration of all boons included, ussually it’s very hard to use it during fight cause of cast time, while other classes got AOE boons with lower CD OOOOO) Toss Elixir B (40% boon duration. Stability without stun breaker and with that big cast time must have bigger uptime or it’s mostly a joke, thank your for adding it but overall itgave not that much to a class for it’s CC immunesse).

-elixirs. It’s not that much weaknesses but it could see some slight buffs that could make them more viable Elixir S – is ok for example, Elixir U is pretty bad for pvp and wvw, elixir C could be much better.

-power builds. Coeficient of the most of our skills not givving us that much options for power based builds in pve/wvw or pvp. Buff in any way (traits, runes, skills) of 15-20% for power builds would be slight and decent buff. Most of the traits not giving engi that much for power.

-healing (power) scaling. This. Is important moment as i see it. Because alot of other classes can make profit out of this STAT with some skills that scale in decent ammount with it. For engi u need to go deep into healing stat to achive good lvl of healing but after that you loose tones of other usefull engi stats and abilities. My suggestion is to bumb up scaling with Healing stat for next skills/traits:
- Backpack regenerator (Alchemy IX) atm it’s 117+5%healing. Increase up to 25-30% (max). And it will be decent (and not OP!, do not nerf me please)
-_ Elixir infused bombs_ (Inventions XI) atm it’s 145+15%healing. Compared to other classes passive AOE healing that is possible this one is just a joke, yes u buffed it a little, but i’m sure you could watch into it to buff it up to 35-40% (yes, double the scaling). It’s not possible to make it OP by this but it will open some more versatilitity in engi builds for pvp/wvw and even pve.
-Super Elixir (Elixir Gun skill 5) would be nice to see some improvments aswell.

-slow skills. We got alot of skills that got too long cast time: elixirs, bombs, tool kit #1. Little buff forthat would be great.

-turrets in wvw and pve. Healing turret is good, trumpet aswell.

-ELITE. engis definetly need some other elites. Supplay crate – good for smallscale sucks in lage scale and mostly bad in pve. Mortar – AWESOME IDEA, but damage is so low….u standing on 1 place with wheel above your head like u got some huge siege but only u can do is damage below lvl 20 elemelntalist.

-retaliation damage. Against big groups with FT and NADES.

kryptonite

-CC.
-massive condi spam.
-confusion.

I could continue on strong and weak sides but at least i wrote down those that where first in my head that are from my expirience most important to get big hairy balance hand on it =)

Cheers, Handa!)

Next week same wednsday!!!!!! This tradition will rise, more guilds will join, karmatrains will go away from EOTM on this days =))

GG all who supported, i go find a guild =)

Agree with OP

OR
OR

Make exliri B stability – 8-10s base. The mechanic of tossing the elixir is so broken, and cast time that it has and without stunbreak so it won’t be that much OP at all.

But right now u wasting time to toss it (if u’re not interrupted) then u can fight for 5-6s (with bonus to boon duration) with stab while enemie can drop lines, rings, usnteady ground etc etc etc without a pause.

Dear Anet, Toss elixir B need a slight fix. It won’t make it OP, but it will make it more viable and balanced.

TheLargeUnit.2793:

How about this:
-Every kill awards a certain number of points. If that server has minor bloodlust every kill awards 1 point, major awards 2 points, and superior awards 3 points.
-Stomps award twice as many points (2,4,6 for each type of bloodlust)
-Remaining PPT system remains unchanged

I think this would give WvW an entirely new style of play. Top servers would need to have ALL of their players on board to be successful. I also think this would help to reduce blobbing as guild groups would have the ability to significantly influence the PPT while still doing their open field fighting. This would also help roamers as it would give them an important objective (bloodlust ruins).

I had the same thought…but there is the point when people from 2 servers can caount as "killers’ of a kid from 3rd server, so it will count to them depending on bloodlust, not sure if people won’t whine about that and it can cause people to actually really avoid fights. And alot of times coverage and omni-blobing will win again. It’s a good idea but it need more brainstorming atm..

SkylightMoon.1980:

I don’t know how any dev out there could tell me what WvW is actually for. I play the mode about 10 times more than you and have for the last year. The devs are just embarassed to admit WvW turned into something different than they thought. This is true about most of gw2, and thats fine, thats the beauty of it. The playerbase takes it and allows it to evolve.

You where spying me or what?
Tones of people leaving the game cause they don’t want to balance the game for those fights and ignored GvG community from the beginning. And you telling that playerbase takes it, oh really?

check on youtube –
GW2 Truth/Anet/Devs/WvW/ESport/GVG/Leaks/Reveals

Dev:“WvW is not about GvG”
Sac:“Wvw IS about GVG”

Thanks for posting this man.

Totally supporting you. I got burned out and bored of ppt a long time ago already.
To all who reading and think it’s a good minds, please support this thread.

make dead bodies be knockbable and luacnhable, so much fun.
You kill 20 people and banish their corps all over the map MOHAHAHAH =))))

Chaos.2531:

What professions/builds are able to ‘counter’ ( by that I mean that given players with equal skills and equipment quality, one will nearly always come out winning ) roaming thieves ? How prevalent are they ?

Engi. Sometimes i think that devs made thiefs then realized they are OP and made engis just to counter thiefs.

ArrDee.2573:

’Ello frands! Vee Wee over here retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

I’m glad you like my zerg build my frand Forestnator! I think Potent Elixirs was a misclick on my part though! I use Protection Injection or Backpack Regenerator during WvW zergplay! But builds aren’t set in stone! If you like Potent Elixirs, keep on using it! There are definitely upsides to that trait just like you said! In any case, thanks for pointing out the typo in my build list! I have updated it!

Wahooo! Bye frands!

I was about to hate you because you always start with “#1 engi NA” and bla bla, but your build is exactly the same as mine grenade build wit ha few tips!!!

I just use rocketboots/eg ussually instead of elixir S, but it’s individual i think and aswell i use backpack regen or prot inject depends on enemy size.

p/s, but i must agree that riffle works good aswell.

mango pie+backpack regen +rocket boots or EG ussually again huge blobs to cover the retal while running arround and spamming nades.

everything else is the same.

still I found engis better in melee/mid range in zerg.

cheers.

Last friday’s “wvw” ready-up stream. 5m late, 10m pve, 10m pvp.
Online stream chat – all messages that contained information/question/suggestion about GvG was beeing deleted in seconds and you where banned from writing in chat for 3m+.

Just saying.

my friend. Best way to observe them is to follow some of streamers on twitch
for ex-le
http://www.twitch.tv/chemsorly/

Rebound.3409:

But today is the last day he can get it…are u sure u don’t want to tell him? He won’t get another chance.

y, that’s the point!

Halo.8976:

uberkingkong.8041:

Just curious how its normally obtained so when season TWO starts I will get this finisher and not miss out.

…
Should we tell him?

no

Kaga.7629:

Tachii.3506:

This defensive mentality then lowers the individual reward for others, because suddenly there are now defended keeps and an uncoordinated blob isn’t enough to ktrain, because now it takes longer to secure a keep and success may not even be possible.

You ask me, Why fight?
I’m asking YOU : Why aren’t you fighting ?

Boo hoohoo people are defending and it’s not as easy to ktrain ?

Unless you’re willing to fight for it, and win, you don’t deserve that reward. You don’t deserve that dragonite. In fact, you don’t deserve loots, AT ALL!

This carebear-like “Why are j00 fighting?” bleeting is EXACTLY why I fight. I fight to keep the lot of you away from the dragonite. I fight to farm you and your zergling friends by the 50 when I tag all of you with burning oil. I fight because if the bags on legs walk into my slice, they don’t deserve to walk off unchallenged.

I fight to crush your choochoomander’s spirits and show them that just because you can blow 100g on a blue corn doritos doesn’t mean you have the capacity to fight and lead other players in a pvp environment. No pity for choochoomanders.

I fight…. because that’s what I do. It’s what I’m here for.

Coincidentally, Frostkeep is also an excellent “Maguuma command simulator” since you’re outnumbered all the time. So you have to make it work with what’s available. And believe me when I say this : Your tears empower me.

<3 this post.

I personally lvled 1 character in eotm and now i’m fighting side aswell, it was the most boring time ever to lvl up there, but the fastest.

If more people was like this EOTM would really be pvp environment as it intended to be.

Keep farming scrubs.

trif.6192:

If you want to jump in the front line there’s some guides for that kind of play around, check this guide by Mishva.

do not do that. Use your own mind. Misha got alot good points in his build but overall it’s pretty bad, dunno who decided his build as an example and making a guide out of it is too early for him. And flamethrower…is just rediculous don’t go that way in zerg. Never.

Some people linking fail guides, some not. Use your own brain, steal all good and know that 95% of zerg builds for engi in wvw that are purposed on this forum (or any other from what i saw) by some Yoda’s are kitten.

We focus deso cause BB payed us money to do that. Didn’t u know aBOUT that?

I thought it’s obvious, look at my garage, they bought me new Seat Leon to pvdor blue keeps.

it’s good idea, but i think first GvG community must be more active. Ogro not hosting the gvg site seems so, not all guild are on gw2wvw etc. Need to show activity and show this to other players aswell so it will be even more popular then it’s now.

+1 who watched yesterday TA vs VII =)

Perplexity runes…..no increased bomb radius…y u need to learn alot =)

Perpl roamer – low skill involved.

FT zerger – useless piece of kitten.

perpl is if u wanna be good and u’re 80 yo man and pretty blind and slow already, then u need them, or u mother sitting with children that always drag your attention out of game etc.

WvW overall consitss of alot of kitten, but let’s divide it to
1. Roaming.
2. Zerging.
3. Ninja!!!!!!!!

1. Is about scouting, taking camps, defending towers, keeps, dolyaks ruins and having small fights 1v2, 2v1, 3v3 max 10v10.
2. all kitten that goes about 20+ – taking keeps, fighting blobs, taking towers, defending kitten.
3. It’s mostly ninja capturing staff with low numbers, fighting outnumbered and trying to not be spotted if u opening some tower, keep, castle, garri.

1 and 3 engis are awesome.

2 – first learn this class and u will see. It’s ok for that but not as OK as guard or war that are just made for it and easy to play as kittening cats. Wave of wrath wave of wrath wave of wrath.

Best kittens.

Tags maybe need some changes (i’m ok with them actually)
But do not
=totally remove tags. Rank, guild etc provides fast info about enemie. IF we could make rank shorter (maybe some symbols for each category – bronze 1 star, silver 2 stars as army got etc), server name as abreviation is good idea (IN OPTIONS).

after season 1 we had SAMEkittenMATCH-up as it was on last week of the league for 3 more weeks!!!!!!!!!!! We where puking on each other in wvw, not fighting, it was so embarrasing. (SFR-kitten-Piken)

Need a fix to that won’t happen after this season or i call my China friends and they will leave the game!!!!

" I am an EOTM only commander"
After this phrase your article lost its sense in this forum thread.
go to pve section, your place is there.

Caspian.2814:

Wat? Engineer was my first character in-game and it was fun to level oO
I still love her

same here <3

Few fails from a list
- bombs and no forcefull explosions.
- MED KIT FOR ZERG INSTEAD OF HEALIN TURRET
- speedy kits – huge waste of trait points in zerg (especially for melee without vigrous speed)
- full celestial is too much
- sigil of momentum and runes

Good news u went on a good way to engi meta (and haven’t used the most useless kitten of ffffffff for zerg such as flametherower), but u still made tones of misstakes, maybe because u’re new to 15+ group fights.

Whisper me ingame if u need any advices in build. I’m pretty average in roaming on engi but confident in zerging.

Deli.1302:

Why are people listing NA guilds…………………………….

They think skills is involved there =)))

zapv.8051:

Hvaran.6327:

“Just food for thought. When the question was asked which 3 professions needed the most help players did state 1)ele 2) Ranger 3) Necro. "

WUT?
Link please.

I just made necro my main is engi, haven’t tried everything yet but class not seem to have som “useless kitten” in his traits or utilies, yes there are a few in each class, but it’s on ok lvl, but engi had huge ammount of nefrs with slight buffs, what make it pretty good for pvp but sucks in large-scale battles.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/Vote-for-the-Profession-Collaborative-Development/page/27#post3636880

There is the vote, I’m not gonna go find the where they tallied them, but necros where third with engis 4th. I would also like to note you just made a necro, and therefore have no idea what the class needs in terms of balance. Seemingly you have played an engi for a while, so can probably address their issues better. I don’t want to be rude, but your first impressions of a class is very rarely accurate.

I’m still a huge noob in this class, i’m not making statements, it’s just mostly first impression of playing it bymyself after watching and learning class from a side for mostly 1 type of gameplay.

But in gvg or large-scale wvw necros got pretty good spot, I’m mostly thinking of priority that anet should put in efforts and in that terms i see
1. Ranger.
2. Engi.
3. Mesmer/theif

but even with my low knowledge in this class i still agree with u the last bad points of necro that u listed in your message, especially in movement, sustain and counter CC.

“Just food for thought. When the question was asked which 3 professions needed the most help players did state 1)ele 2) Ranger 3) Necro. "

WUT?
Link please.

I just made necro my main is engi, haven’t tried everything yet but class not seem to have som “useless kitten” in his traits or utilies, yes there are a few in each class, but it’s on ok lvl, but engi had huge ammount of nefrs with slight buffs, what make it pretty good for pvp but sucks in large-scale battles.

Reborn.2934:

Hvaran.6327:

just delete lemongrass poutry soup from the game and u will see how meta will change in a day to more balanced.

also , they should delete the armors /weapons that have power and condition. the two main attack stats ….

so pho tholl

WvW is a Game of Trolls, season 2 week 6.

just delete lemongrass poutry soup from the game and u will see how meta will change in a day to more balanced.

Y, on official SFR community page after last reset we changed spanish dictionary to french. Adapting to new allies environment.

perplx is an easy OP mode what no skill engis playing.

Class is not easy to play good.

Repi.7152:

BB and Deso double teaming SFR, i have seen deso taking north camp on SFR bl while BB was trying to take flip our dredge on EBG.

Busted

same was in bloodlust.

i got 1 hour video of situations how BB and DESO just didn’t fighted each other.

dobuleteaming conspiracy is just a storytale)

SFR slacking hard atm) Call to arms or so is not much possible.

And how was written before about that video, in deso garri u don’t fight BB if u wanna flip garri, it’s ok situation and we did the same with BB garri, it’s just a strategy.
And how it is immpossible to make normal fight 1v1v1 in open field it’s the same about objects, u focusing 1 serv in 1 moment and it happens that other decides to do the same. And SFR wasn’t focusing Deso all time)

Myst Dawnbringer.9138:

2. The next secret is you are not guaranteed the ability to get achievements. You have to work for it. Hence the word Achievement. Meaning to reach a lofty goal.

this.

same minds here.

those AP hunters must learn english words before whinning.

+ totally agrred.

FearedbytheGods.8617:

I’m enjoying reading the EU rants, it makes a nice changed to the NA ones

As an outsider I’m curious what happened to Viz. Most of you predicted them as #1, what happen?

they all trasnfered to SFR, we getting tones and tones on newcomers, bangwagoners and so on for months already…ER, underworld etc))

But i actually miss strong vizaguna square…y it’s only blobs, but we Seafarer’s Blob is blobbing too and viguna could put a nice fight to it.

Actually i wish JS and BB to become 2nd and 3rd.

JS for smart playing, BB for last running server ever)

what the hell is that? carebar? Bar in wich people actually care? Explain

Dyno.9467:

You just have to read this thread to see how many angry sfr players there are.

how many?) 2-3?) ok

this is a mesterpiece. U don’t need group to farm there)

GG it’s over. Retire Ravya.