Guild Wars 2

guys, my NA friends…please when u writing about tier 1, 2, 3 add 2 letters NA or EU next time, it’s so annoying to open it just see that another Ronald McDonald can’t add 2 letters.

Best reguards.

DeceiverX.8361:

Hvaran.6327:

u’re totally wrong. Burst is all ok as in wvw as in pvp. IT’s even particly underweithed in pvp or smallscale wvw.

DeceiverX.8361
Zergs run PTV or cavalier specs for durability. No effective zerg runs berserker or a DPS-optimized setup except for maybe a select few necromancers or elementalists, and the rest of which are running even tankier.

what do u call zerg? it’s randoms, so there is no “running”, each one runs what they want, but promoting pvt for 40+ group is totall madness.

RUnning tanky u need udnersiege fire or when u’re tired and hardly focusign, otherwise u must balance it enough and not 3400 armor 25k health guardians.

there is burning whine thread, not burst discussion thread.
Both are ok in gme, just seems some people got rekt by seperate.

I call a “zerg” a large group of players. I expect them to be organized running GWEN builds under a skilled driver in T2+ WvW. I don’t mean to sound elitist here, but your lack of WvW experience/experience on high-tier servers is showing. Running what you want might work under some times of the day when guild groups are not around on some of the lower-tier servers, but unless you’re solo roaming or doing small havoc at the higher tiers, you’re playing dedicated GWEN roles. Most players will be using PTV or Nomad’s with support-based traits. Simply, if your entire blob doesn’t have a constant 25 might, you’re doing it wrong.

you talking about pug group or guild group? Zerg is not definition.
My lack? U sick or smthing? Oh i forgot i started from vabbi and promoting it’s meta for 50v50 fights. From wich harlem shake server are you? We seems not knowing each other and u making some statements because u think u’re right and u had noone to proove u opposite, let me guess u playing ebg 24/7 with ofc high skill included? We got dozens of guys like that on our server that think they actually give alot to their group and they don’t die that fast so they seems better then others balanced guys and can call others not bunkers “rallybots”.
In zVz it’s doesn’t matter mostly if u’re full tank or not, blocks and dodges will save you but not full pvt. Stand still with your full pvt in bomb of 15 balanced melees for 2-3s and u will be ded as gaem.
EU-SFR here. EU, zbs was all running 30+ blob killing squads with melee at least half berserker. FULL PTV or nomad is the most stupid thing u can do in wvw, don’t tell stories how ptv melee kite all the people in pug zerg and bers eles necros kill all the enemie. Tha’s bs, u need balanced sustain and dps on melee. IF your zerg will run ptv or nomad kitten they will do 0, just a walking walls. “It’s not bunker the node and make enemie ragequit #esports.”
Running full support or 1000+ healing power guardian is useless waste. Yes u can go for 400-600 healing power but do not overkill and do not go full pvt or nomad, unless u in situations i said above.

U’re not in world of warcraft duneguon tank/heal/dps/dps/dps, it’s another gaem, better adapt cause it’s ded soon and u still running full ptv…

killahmayne.9518
good point though

And in zergbusting, building highly defensive for most classes is emphasized. For GvGs most classes build highly defensive with a few odd classes going high damage, but even then they still have decent toughness.

it depends on what u mean in emphasized. 2900-3200 armor 18k+ and 25k+ health for guardian and warrior or 3300+ armor and 20k+ and 28k health for warri and guardian?

Yes u can go bunker sometiems when u need to hold some cap or banner the lord, but not for fights.

green will fit badly to pve or wvw, cause more then 50% of terrain is green aswell. No need for green, 4 tags is enough. Yellow, purple are awesome colours and very contrast, red can maybe sometimes go with enemy red names but will see it.

I would like devs to focus already on other things, this changes are good startfor futher co-work. (late, easrly doesn’t matter)

u’re totally wrong. Burst is all ok as in wvw as in pvp. IT’s even particly underweithed in pvp or smallscale wvw.

DeceiverX.8361
Zergs run PTV or cavalier specs for durability. No effective zerg runs berserker or a DPS-optimized setup except for maybe a select few necromancers or elementalists, and the rest of which are running even tankier.

what do u call zerg? it’s randoms, so there is no “running”, each one runs what they want, but promoting pvt for 40+ group is totall madness.

RUnning tanky u need udnersiege fire or when u’re tired and hardly focusign, otherwise u must balance it enough and not 3400 armor 25k health guardians.

there is burning whine thread, not burst discussion thread.
Both are ok in gme, just seems some people got rekt by seperate.

i’m not that much in Norns medium armor, but you could try it with that mask from Dry top or Bane from gemstore (200 gems) must look nice on norn. Also scarlet shoulders and gloves from gemstore.

And shoulders from Zefrost.3425 post look nice on engi, i use it as one my setups on my charr.

The ’wardrop" system allows to preview alot of details, that how i basicly sorting out armor for my characters.

And if u will go for legendary, remember that engi shots like from shootgun while Predator is sniper riffle, looks thily form a side =)

GL

One thing i sometimes hate is people with legendaries and tones of other suits and not even trying to do something uniq and beatiful.

Cultural T3 wars, guardians Norns, same for Charrs, Magitech gasmask engis….so ugly to see that clone wars.

TS, just try to combine pice by pice the look that you want and it will lead you to something uniq and good, if u really interested in your look, if not just go whatever first guy with 20 legendaries will advice you.

Very nice combo!!! Zefrost.3425

beeing very excited of the upcoming patch looks like this
http://i.wyral.net/H6S/Uvl06y2.gif

but beeing upset is not an option either.

went esports

vincecontix.1264:

Yea for thief in general engi is pretty good counter, oh yes ps does such a grea job. Though when engi has to deal with pd condi thief its kinda of 50/50 lack of condition clears an all. Ranged spec such as: Zerker lb ranger, Lb war, zerker rifle wars, zerker sd or sf ele eg…. all have good change vs pd condi thief which are only really good at dueling and solo roaming.

better show me how you coutner mesmer, for me for example it’s sometimes pretty hard to fight them, but i run totally different spec. I just don’ like bombs or nades in 1v1 much, in group fights y it’s ok, but otherwise naah, to much depends on terain and range timing.

although some eles can be a huge pain in the kitten and very high skilled waris and guardians.

U just chosen not the best example, not saying that u playing bad ofc, but if i will see your fighting condi melee ranger or good dd, sd eles or shatter/PU mesm it would show off more of your individual skill lvl.

one of the ways to kill thief?) just roll engi and u’re done =)) theif is easy counter for engi and actually p/s is like made against thief.

extractor would be nice, salvagin could bring in some easy money making ways…but actually maybe it’s good for wvw to bring in some money for full wvweers

now those ac shooter behind the walls won’t hide from me anymore. Get your kitten ready kittens!

Golems it’s the most fun siege in game so far, nice buffs =)

Curby.4897

u got periods?

I can’t see the point of your post, what you want to achive?

“for the clear neglect to WvW” or is it this?

Dimes.6024:

Hvaran.6327:

lakdav.3694:

We could discuss gold selling in this thread. Nobody watches. Nobody cares.

i sell 20 gold for 200 euro. w/ in game all call by phone.

i’ll take your 20 gold for 2000$, but you don’t pickup your phone!!!

was too many cutomers, i’ll tell girls to make a discount when u will call.

Btw, we can dsicuss any other staff here aswell as making it WvW Match-Up thread that they closed in another section (what was best pvp in this game).

Oh and i like a dev actually, i don’t bother much about hobo, dunno why people so hyped about this esepcially those asura engis, noone can see how you look like =p

Mister Fluffkin.7358

u can stay with whatever u want to. If u can’t play without 5 monitors adn grenades it’s your problem.
Just another noob engi.
And if we gonna discuss some “links” to builds it will take forever, cause most of them are individual we are not talking about blob guardian or ele.

Acting like a boss that knows everything and asking people to do proove for him, how the f?
Learn to play the class and learn it’s mechanics.

Oh and about thread, one of the problems beeing main engi, is noob engis arround with perplex and other sh.

lakdav.3694:

We could discuss gold selling in this thread. Nobody watches. Nobody cares.

i sell 20 gold for 200 euro. w/ in game all call by phone.

Mister Fluffkin.7358:

theres hardly any strong build without grenade kit.

no.

Adamantium.3682:

In addition to those, the playstyle is complex and difficult to master. I enjoy playing a profession where after 2100 hours I’m still learning new things.

3100h here, and i still can’t say that i know all the tricks, but pretty easy to analize opposite engi build helps alot.

About overall engi as main….I didn’t played much mmos beofre GW2, and it was the first game in my entire life that i actually “bought”. Mostly because i saw some utube videos and loved engi class from first sight.

The class is pretty balanced to all aspects of the game if u master it, lil exception is wvw large-scale fights, where u’re not bad but not balanced to current meta for sure.

Cheers for all you guys, who keep playing engis <3

(and ifu gonna run perplexity in wvw i gonna hunt you down and smash your head into your monitor)

Blix.8021:

It depends on what he’s commanding. At least in tier 1, people know the enemy’s commanders, and have people specifically target them with moa/warrior rifle/ranger longbow etc. In those cases, being as tanky as possible is a benefit.

happens, but not so often. Andu can always swithc some trinkets or ask few friends nmelee to run ascalonian poitions with you. IF u’re Gold or higher rank though will be easier to spot you or Ultimate Dominator.

Messorem.3105
changed your purposed build.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJEQNBMhJakpjyQ78wyDORDUFUIX8AQZPEEpPhXIFA-TlCEAB7eIAaR9noUixlSQmUeYwRAIE9BJt/AAPAgHOBAkBgZCA-w

switch clinsing ire to last stand if u are low on guards.
although u can go for melandru runes for leading build.

with those stats u will be already tanky enough to lead and u still will have some proper dps to not be just a useless talking point on a map and will be usefull unit as player aswell.

90% of zoom hackers that “was spotted” is not more then nabish “spotters”.

Just saying.

Catalin.5341:

• Make veterans and champions (hp+dmg) as powerful as the ones from PVE – look at the NPC commander its dolyak. It’s not normal for 5 people to capture a keep.
  NO

• Personnel upgrades that increase the level should add 5 more levels not just 2.
  NO

• Double the life/armor of walls/gates. Gates no longer go down in a couple of seconds.
  NO

• Gates can’t be hit by normal damage, like the walls are now. No more PVD.
  NO

• Siege decays in 4 hours, not 1 hour. Scouts will no longer manifest the refresh syndrome in their sleep.
  That’s good! (better 2h, 4hours is overkill)

• Make guild cata and guild golem the same as the other guild siege, which are just superior siege that cost the same supply, but have an esthetic improvement. Also remove them from the guild upgrades and move them in the guild shop.
  NO

• Siege skill cooldowns should be set per siege weapon, not per player. This creates the situation where 5 ppl use the same catapult and they can keep that bubble permanent.
  NO

Whilethough alone all this changes will do nothing except more time of shooting each other with siege and other stuff.

Karma train doesn’t invloves ANY KIND of defences, so all this changes will just do prime time even more boring. Ask please some of your friends what is karma-train and don’t mess it with other stuff.

Alone it will lead to some kind of “building capture game”, where meta will change to more viable for that abilities. It’s not list of improvments for wvw, it’s “list of things that are annoying me” instead of what most people would like to see.

TheMessy.3786:

Anyone else on these forums sick of hearing Hello Frands? I dont think anyone cares that you were the #1 engi…

Hello Frands! Handarand here! #1 Engi EU and world first rank 10!

I’m sick of seeing that, but some people want to drag attention of other people by beeing annoying recognizable if they not doing anything special!

“Forum fame” is such a big social advantage!(sarcasm)

Oh and it’s actually second account that posts this “Hallo Frands” on forum.
Although he had some nice posts.

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Do not run full tank as commander(unless u’re commanding group of complete racoons or running under 20acs). It makes you blind about bomb that u dragging your group into.
Run normal warrior build, just a lil tankier.
00464 3100-3200 armor, 26k+ HP s+wh/h. melandru/tropper runes. And you will be good.

Valdemas.4960:

In before thread close.
I miss match up threads.

BEST PVP MODE IN GUILD WARS 2, was MATCH-UP THREADS! Giff zem back!

It’s part of roleplay Anet, give it back to us to be able to say in public, the most constructive kitten u think about your opponent.

oh, and to op.

I give coconut cake to all upleveled.

EOTM just made for upleveled. And if u have problems with certain server better contact them on their “community page”

healing turret, transmute, dodge, but best is super elixir+projectiles.

as option for elixir builds is “formula 409” ofc.

Food.
Runes.
Generosity sigil.

bombs 30% speed, glue bomb, imob each hit. backpack regen and healing bombs scale with healing power higher. toss Elixir B – stunbreaker/3s base stability because of kitten mechanics of skill.

Rozbuska.5263:

So many nice buffs and no nerfs its first time:-)

it’s just a preview.

But toolkit, ft and rocket turret buffs makes my roaming builds more viable after that.
Need to see now other classes changes to know for sure that it’s balancing and not buffing everyone.

at 12:00pm PDT (18:00 UTC)

is not the same time btw

Anymras.5729:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Ready-Up-Episode-18-7-25-Noon-PDT/first#post4231196

Yeah, staff straight-up say they’re doing a balance preview for Engineers and Rangers. Probably won’t mention hobosacks, despite them being a ‘balance’ issue according to the staff (and just the staff).

ty for the link.

I already hate that ready-up, cause it’s announced in esports area instead of profession balance.

But gonna stay in tune and watch it very closely.

MY prediction btw.

2h Hammer, it was tested long time ago but i think they waited for China to get into the game.

on other side, the list could be huge, i just wish it will be not turret fixes.4

Penguin.5197:

Alright so, ready up will have a balance preview for engineer this Friday.

Who told you that?

yes it’s allowed.

Best reguards, Arenanet Developer Team.

EU Riverside got special guild called ResQ was trolling in OS current gvgs, when gvgs where moving to BLs they where searching for gvg to trol them aswell.

And you here just beeiing Anet. This game mode is not supported by any devs but it’s one of the best things in all game that alot of players love to do.

WvW is 24/7 game and if in prime u got (20-30) less active people on map then usualy nothing dramatic will happen, but if 1 guy wish to troll GvG he can easily succed on that.

If u want ppt play when you enemies sleep or work.

And respect the game mode that devs fully ignoring because it’s potential would have made s/tpvp dead on a half if it got some support.

“After all i wonder whats the name of game again?. Shame ANET seemed to forget that.” Sacrx <3

i’ll tell you this.

When i started to command game was 1 year released and i didn’t have a clue what orange swords means, what the top timer means, how to refresh siege and alot of other staff. I was talking into my web-cam as mic.

U must have 1 thing always in your inventory.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/179/1/f/BALLS_OF_STEEL_by_MouseRunner.png

guys, if u want your suggestions to be taken into account and it’s not about esports, think of how many resources it will need for devs to apply it, make it simple for them to apply and do not try to destroy already existing gaem mode.

spvp=/=pvp it’s gaem mode with it’s mechanics
spvp=/=gvg
wvw=/=gvg

gvg=…OS +2 arenas and EOTM overflow mechanics. GG

zis runes are broken.

On my server i ask my fellow engineers when they roaming.
-You using perplexity runes?
-Yes.
-I wish you die and dogs kitten your ded corps.

Zis runes are still too strong in small-scalle wvw.

No i don’t have suggestions how to fix, but better to do it through the runes and not overall condition mechanics, because cofusion is not OP, but perplexity runes are OP in current state of gaem

gaem s ded, why u still here?

nice pve patch btw, now please make happy your most honest and nerdish players WvWeers.

i actually run on my condi build
with torment (must be)
and
purity or doom

purity to cleanse myself all the time and doom is awesome aswell.

Very important to keep up
poison and burning on enemie all the time.

tornment it’s good cover for other your conditions.

but if u want to go might stacking then choose battle sigil ofcourse, i don’t reccomend it on condi spec but maybe u’ll find it good for you.

HermiBoi.4791:

My friend made a hardcore WvW guild. Of course I joined this and played on my engi. Ok I did dmg and killed people, but other than that I couldnt really contribute with anything. Thats the main reason I made guardian. Guardian offer a lot of stability, condi removal and heals. Also they have descent dps for zerg. Not that I dont like engi’s, I play it all the time unless im in raids. Sure engineers might be useful in a lot of things, but the other classes specilize in the things engi do some things in.
Engi: Descent in more or less everything (except stability)
Other classes: Spezilice in the things engi’s do

what? cleansing and heals more on guard? for real? take elixir gun, healing turret and healing bombs 500 healing power and calculate.

Don’t pretend, U just wanna wave of wrath and stabilitybot.

Or your guild lacked guards, that’s another question.

battle – 100% better.

Just try it out.

With runes of strenght 20 in alochemy and sigil of battle u can have perma 9 stacks of might only from sigil (+duration ofc)

Strenght much much weaker 3-4 stacks 5 max will be from this sigil.

If u changing any kits/weapons every time battle off from cooldown then u will be cool!

GDavison.9605:

Good ideas, maybe someone will pay attention.
Because I’m not fickle and think something will be acted upon because of this thread, I will make a suggestion …
Guilds that play for fights EU-wide organise certain dates of EoTM raiding (My suggestion is once or twice a week). Guilds you want to fight, you get on the same overflow as them. Although its a pain in the kitten , it’s 10x better than running around doing nothing for the boring match-ups.
In my eyes its the only potential solution to the problem of this game loosing guilds and players at the rate it is atm. About time the guilds that wish to continue on this game, take matters into their own hands.
I’m sure Sam and a few other guild leaders will help us organise this so it might be implemented pretty soon.

hey bro, wake up o/

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/events/Guilds-of-the-Mist-event-EU-Guilds/page/2#post4135100

http://www.gw2wvw.net/topic/guild-mists-event-eu

just keep it going and yell to other guilds. Every wednsday make is stable for your and other guids that you know.

It happened 2 times third (this week) don’t think so, cause few supported.

game will use typical ebg blobber…what a sad news….NOT.

main and off hand mace or off hand torch or 2h hammer.

focus could work too maybe…depends what they tested already.
2h hammer they tested, maybe with season 2 some balancing changes will arrive, cause they made that balancing philosophy stream not by misstake.

Making bomb delay 1/2s less (or 1/4s take from cast time 1/4s take from delay time)
And Grenades make speed boost to flight on 20-30% (for distance 400+)

And i’m happy.

tigirius.9014:

Do you agree that it’s high time for a CDI for the most nerfed and most beta’d class in the game?

I haven’t seen a single CDI, dunno what it will lead to.
But i would like to see devs attention to balancing classes to really most popular game modes and not only #esports.

tigirius.9014:

Only because of the innate nature of the class. Sure that helps to be a jack of all trades and it helps especially when certain aspects of the class are nerfed or taken out entirely but it’s no fix for the problems that the balance team has created over the past 2 years for the class. We need a CDI.

I agree that engi class is inbalanced in such gameplay (and some other aspects).

I dissagree that this class is useless and all other classes are better in wvw largescale.

TA hahahahhaha, ask TA if they claim themselfes as NA omg
Chemso is from Harlem, mark from Detroit ahaha

shhh….i got already half of the existing hammer skins because of that, but shhh…we know nothing if somebody will ask, ok?

video ex-le of good engi build for wvw.

Yes the diversity is pretty low in best engis one of the class problems but it’s not like mesm, thief or ranger atm it’s much higher input for zerg.

Rozbuska.5263:

Well you have right I run pretty much only zone blobs or small scale up to 5 ppl our server pretty much havent those mid scale groups. I played quite a lot GvG 20v20 but with different builds. You know that I havent my other builds in signature doesm mean I dont play them:-P I have right now 11 builds for different situations:-)

Our server got midscale groups but it’s mostly rading wvw guilds and you with your knowledge could be good unit in any of them, but it’s your choice ofc i’m not discussing it.

I’m sure u testing alot arround as i do aswell. I got few stable builds but still trying different roles always.

U can see good example of people make viable arguments about engis as Arantheal.7396 and bombsway did.
And i’m starting to meet more and more engis that agreed on points that Aran pointed with slight differences.
U agreed or not, engi got it’s place in 15-30 organized fights, but it’s hard to understand in wich way if u keep comparing this class certain cons to other class cons while this class got tones of staff that is done good lvl while not beeing best at something (but at this point, constant healing could be very high comparing to other classes without big input into healing power though).

I think in our messages we appointed the problems of the lack of knowledge of the class and topistarter must be happy. GG.

Rozbuska.5263:

I agree engis are great for smaller organised fights (and I played lots of them dont worry:-)) but we talk here about zerg vs zerg fights where 50+ ppl are stacked on commander trying play deathball and simply engi dont fit very well into this strategy.
I dont say we are bad we can do everything like other classes but engi has much higher skill cap in it and that imo is reason why ppl play rather other easier classes and why many engis are really bad witch is again reason why other classes dont want engis in their teams.
What I want to say mistake is on both sides – other classes dont understand capabilities of engi and lots of engis dont understad their class too.

agrred with you in everything u said except zerg v zerg. As i said u got brains, but i hate your blob build still, because it’s just sucks big back kitten. It’s cool for you, but advertising it makes people really go that way and that way is kitttttttten for the class.
There are some classes and roles that MUST be in zerg because we used to that gameplay, but it doesn’t mean u can’t be usefull in zerg as they are.

I can be same usefull with my engi as 80% of GWEN pugs on my server in blob =)

And i said that you seems got low expirience in organized groups like 15-30 people not the zoneblobbing kitten or smallscale. Guild raids gvg? no? IF u run pug zerg withkittenbest comi in the workld with 25 guys that doesn’t make this run organized =)

Johje Holan.4607:

Aw man I wish I could find a time when people are actually fighting in EOTM. That would be great. I had high hopes when it first was announced but then…

Maybe we should designate a particular match at a particular time to be a real match. Where people could come and actually fight. Maybe do it a few times a week.

Would need some guilds to organize it though.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/events/Guilds-of-the-Mist-event-EU-Guilds/page/2#post4134117

wake up and check op on it!