Guild Wars 2

If you want to play condi necro, just use your basic hybrid (cele) signet build, replace dagger/wh by scepter/dagger and adapt your rune/sigil, it’s not as devastating as hybrid cele necro but it works well.

Totally agree, matchmaking system is so kittened i’ve havent seen a close game since a kitten long time. All games are just stupidly one-sided.

And best part, there’s not even an active leaderboard … This PvP mode is just uninteresting, but sadly there’s nothing else to do on this game.

I’ve sold some T6 items, and these are not in my inventory anymore, not in Transaction Tab, and by the way i didnt received any gold.

Kinda pathetic to see that. I get hitted by a 36K Kill Shot from nowhere this evening, I think Im done with WvW this week.

Yes, I’ve also noticed it on Bifrost, Incinerator, Rodgort and Howler. I think all legys with an aura are affected. It’s kinda annoying.

No elites over 120s.
No tanky amu (Soldier,Crusader,Settler…)
No rune including healing power.
No sigils that stack on death.

Necros : Can’t start a duel with >20% DS.
Mesmer : No PU
Thief: No Shadow Rejuv
Warrior : No rampage
Engineer : No Elixir X

Should be something like that.

(Angz server global rules)

Amityel.5324:

again crybabies yelling for mesmer nerfs…….you know what? mesmer was nerfed twice already while engie guard and ele mainly are still on top food chain

Engi on the top? Lolnope, sorry man. Engis are just kitten right now, the only playable build is full-zerker static-discharge since a single necro in a game can totally ruin your life.

This thread… “ruining wells” when they just buffed it, cuz untargetable wells were 100% useless, gg. Peoples are really complaining for nothing, wow.

Yes, necro is strong. And ?

No, Necro is far from bad atm. Condi Signet is ridiculously strong.

Necro’s changes are good if you accept to change your good old build, you must admit it guys.

Necro is perfectly fine at the moment, and could (maybe?) even be back on the Meta.

Same here, I really enjoy the changes too !

I know peoples who get a kitten tons of money from this. Its kinda like a lottery.

Yo.

I’ve played a lot of necro tonight and i’ve made this condi signet build which was devastating in 1v1/small commits fights.

Here it is : http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFF014oIkJ0;9;467A;0136136148;4T-17K;1NX8aNX8aPtFD4-gDN3;13d384d485d5897-1k4R06Rk06R;9;9;9;9;9;4V6s5z
(its not a terror build, that’s why i choosed MoC instead of Terrortrait. The additional blind doesn’t really matter actually.)

Here’s the PvP version :
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-300-kHFF014oIkJ0;9;467A;0136136148;4T-1730;0jwmAjwmA2M
(weaker because of lower stats).

It’s probably not the best build i can get with signet, but I made it quickly by myself.

To be honest, im not desappointed at all about Necro’s changes. It is rather the opposite. I feel way stronger than before with condimancer.

Sigmoid.7082:

http://www.twitch.tv/chaithh/v/6473120

around 2:48:00 you see some necro duels. You really get to see signets of suffering in this one. Also at 2:56:50 is another one.

I need this necro build, looks fun !

Ashur.6403:

ImdA.4701:

Yup , Plague Signet will be uber strong post-patch.

Traited, CD will be 24 seconds. 24 seconds for an instant 5 condi revert, plus the additionnal one with the trait. Its kinda a nice buff tbh.

Blowing one of your stunbreaks to transfer 4 seconds of vulnerability and whatever random kitten condition they decide to add to it. Brilliant strategy.

I don’t know what world you live in, but the change to Consume Conditions wasn’t on the same planet as planet buff. Either you take Master of Corruption, get the 10s recharge, and lose out on PoC or Terror. Or you don’t and now it got nerfed 5 seconds and gives10 stacks vulnerability for 4 seconds that using a condition transfer for is a terrible idea.

There’s now way i’ll use plague for reverting Vulnerabilty. And I never ever said that this buff can balance CC’s nerf.

Tbh, thief players will forever ardently defend Withdraw, as I do with CC, which is normal tho.

Totally agree. Necro’s are only looking at the “dark side” of the patch. However, there’s a lot of new stuff, especially for power necros, which can be considerer as a buff to our profession. Especially the Plague Signet’s one, or the Withering precision buff (5 seconds weakness with 10 seconds CD is nice). Well, as a power necro main, except that weird CC’s nerf (im waiting to see conditions added by the trait before starting whining hard), the upcoming changes doesn’t look that horrible.

Yup , Plague Signet will be uber strong post-patch.

Traited, CD will be 24 seconds. 24 seconds for an instant 5 condi revert, plus the additionnal one with the trait. Its kinda a nice buff tbh.

I started to theory craft builds for Power Necro too, doesn’t looks bad at all as far i can see. We’ll just have to deal with Vulnerability stacks on heal.

Shadow Dragon Ad.2409:

Just incase people didn’t notice in the notes, Lich Form is now a spectral skill which means it benefits from the spectral mastery trait. This should mean a 22.5 second Lich Form that also grants 20% life force overall AND has its CD reduced by 20%. Lich Form actually got buffed this patch (if you go soul reaping).

I’d really like for them to make Terror into the Master minor, swap PoC into Grandmaster and put Parasitic Contagion into its master slot. This then leaves a Master trait open for them to do with whatever they want. The issues with Terror is that it’s almost always going to outshine every other trait in its current line so it blocks out too many choices imo.

Thing is you have to take a trait for it. And to sacrifice Vital Persistance, which is one of the most important trait.

Even if they take a look at necros forum, they wont change anything. Because

Anet hate necromancers …

Im not sure you get what i wanted to say actually. Anyway.

Don’t forget that some traits has been agregated together. (like Vital Persistence and Path of Midnight for example). It can basically be considerate as a CD reduction of all Shroud’s skills (Power Necro’s are forced to play Vital Persistence at the moment, and thus sacrifice Path of Midnight).

Khandarus.2738:

Its a dodge heal that removes cripple/chill or imob and heals for roughly 4200, 4600 after the patch and is an 18 second cooldown, reduced to about 14-15 seconds with a trait. The complaint is nothing but grasping at straws.

Thing is the very low CD allows thieves to spam it as soon as they get hitted by something. The low CD allows thieves to entirely reset a fight just by waiting for it in stealth.

Actually, the real problem is Vulnerability. Trait will get CC’s cooldown to 20s.

Khandarus.2738:

Oh no a dodge that throws them back 600 units or so, so OP /sarcasim

You ever played the game? xD

Sagat.3285:

ImdA.4701:

30-0.67(33%)=20.1

So with trait the CD of CC will be 20s. That’s not that bad.

Who knows what additional condition it adds…the one on Plague probably pulses and what could they possibly add on top of weakness to CPC. I didn’t play GW but this look similar to their corruptions style the only benefit here is CD reduction transfers are already busy with the foes conditions.

It’ll be additional Vulnerability stacks no? Or they’ll add another condi?

30×0.67(33%)=20.1

So with trait the CD of CC will be 20s. That’s not that bad.

laquito.5269:

Necro design is just terrible which makes them absolutely redundant as a class. Necro is neither fun to play as they suck in tpvp and fullfull no role nor is it fun to play against. Power necros are some gimmick kitten that much like power ranger revolve around spamming 2 skills whilst condi necros will just spam conditions on you without the need to combo certain skills. If it wasn’t for the synergy with some sigils, I’m pretty sure necro would not even have a single semi viable build. (I’m saying semi viable because no matter how you put it – necro isn’t viable in tpvp).

If there was a class to be deleted from the game, I would – without a single doubt – vote for necro, as it feels so out of place in comparison to any other class. It’s a cheap ripoff off gw1 necros that has abysmal class design/abilities and is absolutely annoying/frustrating to play against.

Now I admit, I’m an avid necro hater, but even after almost three years of fighting necros, the fight/outcome still feels completly random. There are barely (if any) key skills to dodge and I’m usually more concerned about some passive procs or random procs than what the nec is actually doing. This is probably also due to the fact that necro still has the worst kittening animations in the game. Every skill of a weaponset seems to have more or less the same animation with only slight differences that aren’t as easy to spot in a fight. Also fear – their trademark condi – seems to be applied so randomly its not even funny anymore. I sometimes get the feeling that necros themselves barely have any control over the utilization of fear.

/rant – take it with a pinch of salt.

What a terrible post.

Lily.1935:

2) Power-mancer: Strong? No

It’s a lie, powermancer is viable. At least for duels and roaming.

Totally agree with that.

Ah nvm. Never noticed it before. xD

Ranger’s range is balanced.

Dstroya.6705:

Eat my conditions, heal up, next hit back to where I started because 10% extra damage. Is there any other heal skill in this game that penalizes you for using it?

No, that’s the point.

Yes i agree, new curse layout is great. Maybe it’ll convice me to get my condimancer back.

There’s one. Between necro and thief.

Well so, let’s analyze this kitten.

Life force maximum increased by 15%.
Good Thing.

The area of mark skills has been increased to 240. Mark skill recharges have been reduced by 20%. Mark damage has been increased by 10%.
That’s not a bad thing in my opinion.

Blood is Power: This skill now applies 8 stacks of might for 8 seconds to nearby allies.
A bit useless, 8 seconds of might with a 30 seconds CD skill. However, it makes necro a bit more usefull for group.

Consume Conditions: This skill is now considered a corruption skill and applies 10 stacks of vulnerability to you for 4 seconds after use. Increased recharge to 30 seconds.
Holy crap. Well, what the kitten is that ?

Plague: This skill is now considered a corruption skill and applies 1 stack of bleeding for 2 seconds to you every second it is active.
Oh really Anet ? For real ?

Spectral Walk: This skill can no longer be activated while in mid-air.
No Why ? .

Well … That’s kitten . Totally. Especially this super awesome CC’s nerf that noone asked for. Those nerfs are wrongful and the few buffs are trivial.

3 more seconds on cooldown won’t change a lot of thing tho. Thieves will still able to spam it every time they get hitted, as they do at the moment. That’s not enough in my opinion.

Not precised atm, but i really hope real Dhuumfire will be back. It’ll be the best buff they can do to necro for me. o/

Please, can someone tell me why devs decided to nerf Consume Condition hard and to buff Withdraw, which is obviously the strongest heal IG by far ?
It’s such a ridiculous idea, Consume Condi was balanced enough (due to a pretty long casting time). Withdraw is just unblockable 15s CD heal.
Sorry dear devs, but that’s kinda stupid.

Necros have to use plague/lich for countering rampage, its the only way to stay alive.

I use to have troubles with medi guards and (obviously) thieves while i am playing shattermes. Ah, and hard pressure condition builds can be hard to deal with too.

Reaper’s GS will be a zerker weapon, so you can already buy a zerker armor for it.

But you can wait till upcoming balance and see if Condimancer’s getting viable again.

Dont worry, even for experienced players GW2’s sPvP is such a punitive experience.

Nope, not if he uses an autoclicker.
Anyway, GG for Rank 10K, thats kinda impressive!