Guild Wars 2

And now you just ignore the topic until people forget about it, woo!

Careful, video threads are apparently not allowed if they don’t have enough “discussion” in them: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Red-Guard-a-Guild-vs-Guild-video/1226572

Great stuff, JDGE videos are always good fun.

Why do you use Mass Invis over Quickness when you could be using Veils? Is it related to the fact that it’s easier to retreat with it? Or you really love your Feedback / Blink / Portal combo I guess!

Powazappa.6937:

Moderator.2608:

Hi!
I just moved this thread to “Linksville”, because it’s just a Video and not a discussion-topic about WvWvW.
Thanks for your understanding.

“It would be awesome if you could implement maybe a 15 vs 15 or even 20 vs 20 deathmatch battle that would be completely unique. I’m not sure the effect it would have as a whole on Wvwvw but surely something to look into”

This is followed up with actual material of arranged 20v20 battles to show what it would look like

Is this not worth discussing?, compare it to the many other wvw threads this one seems to have the biggest drive for a discussion.

This is very accurate. This thread actually had more discussion than many of the other Video threads that I linked.

Edit: Or the video threads that Devs take part in that are apparently also not allowed in the WvW sub-forum but are still there?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/4vs30-No-problem/page/2#post1172919

I’d like to state that I am NOT questioning your moderation and merely providing a list in order to help you out with threads similar to this.

Here you go:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Video-7vs50/

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Video-Taking-on-double-zerg-in-EU-T1/

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Video-WvW-1v1-Dueling-Warrior-pov/

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/KAZ-Legacy-THE-MOVIE-5

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Video-WvW-Preps/

PS: I am not questioning your moderation.

Yes, get the full karma set. Most of your stat variation will come from your Jewelry instead, a Karma PVT set is a great place to start armor-wise. Remember it’s only 5/6, so get the last from dungeon / Invader’s.

A Berserker set is great for all kinds of things. Try zerg vs zerg with a Staff, it’s great fun.

Starscream.7803:

Did you guys ever post the vid when you fought IRON? was looking forward to seeing it.

We never had organized GvG fights vs IRON. The only video we have is one h4zz made of a few fights we had one evening, as far as I know:

Hopefully we’ll have some good fights when we’re against you later on.

I think it’s a case of you playing wrong as opposed to the build you’re using being bad. If you’re using D/D remember that you also have other great escape skills, namely Burning Speed and Magnetic Grasp. You should also have perma-Swiftness from your Auras + Zephyr’s Boon.

Neeho’s post is good.

Random example of how to use RtL → Burning Speed → Magnetic Grasp at 00:50:

So much drama. Ya’ll way too obsessed. That AR Keep fight in EB yesterday was pretty fun.

Any AR / Gandara folks want some fun 1on1’s before the matchup ends?

I ran into 5 The White Souls [WS] guys yesterday and had some great 1on1’s with them before our evening roam started – many props to them.

I really miss DAoC style 8v8’s. I hope ArenaNet will not continue to cater to zerging constantly.

MarzAttakz.9608:

Intigo.1653:

We’re moving up to Tier 3 on Friday, so we’ll be there fairly soon. Hopefully there are a great number of guilds on SFR / Deso that would be up for some GvG awesomeness.

You can bet your offhand dagger that there are Intigo, and not just the big names either. Get up here and make sure you thump Vizunah on their way down. Looking forward to seeing you guys soon.

Haha, that’s good to know – we’ll be running into you ASAP.

Seven Instincts [siN] is the strongest guild we have fought so far.

Magische Boek.2530:

its usefull in WvW zergs just to keep up with the zerg, for me not being a lvl 80 yet im not realy going for a 1v1 fight anyway. and when attacking the gate of a tower i dont realy need a cantrip anyway.

You can have perma-Swiftness even if you’re not 80. What level and spec are you?

Signet of Air is always bad when on land.

Yep, the giant lakes are a terrible idea. Less water, more fun.

It’s worthless. You have perma-Swiftness anyway, there are many other far better skills.

As for the mobility traits being broken, they are also inferior to Swiftness.

MAYBE if you run a S/F build roaming in WvW it would be ok, but I’d still swap it out before a fight happens.

I enjoyed watching Phantaram play with the rest of Team Paradigm at first, but he stopped streaming GW 2.

Now, there’s not really anyone. I guess when you get better you start noticing mistakes all over the place and they just bug you.

Battle. Good for every situation.

Hydromancy is a pretty small radius and will be wasted a large majority of the time.

I think your 50% crit chance sounds a bit high, what gear are you using?

What? You don’t miss out on any buffs, but you miss out on a permanent 10% damage increase.

You may have become addicted to it, but it’s pretty bad.

He’s also not even using Aeromancer’s Alacrity.

Warriors have amazing mobility with Sword/Warhorn and Greatsword. Signet of Rage + Warhorn = perma-Swiftness and you have 3 strong “leap” skills.

Please stop being such a baby and learn to play your class.

You should really use 25 Water/15 Air if you want the optimal setup. The damage you lose by not having the 25 Water trait (2% for each Boon) is really high considering the massive amount of Boons we keep up as D/D Elementalists. Also, when you have 15 Air you have to be aware of that and try to time your Air attunements for when you have a target selected (and in range) due to the nuke. I saw you without one for quite a few attunements.

Other than that, just try to Earth roll in your Fire fields a little more and you’re good.

I agree, but don’t remove crowd control to add our Aura. Crowd control is one of the few things we do well underwater (where the rest is terrible).

Furgerat.7842:

kanikani.2430:

I’m just glad they are updating maps to keep things fresh/interesting and putting such a strong focus on fixing bugs/exploits…..oh wait they are not.

Overall I would say they whole thing is rather disappointing (not just wvw) from the stand point of this being the next six months (thats it really?). But I kind of expected this already so not really disappointed.

I don’t really see any of this keeping the game from dieing like it has been, but oh well other games are coming out soon. And for Colin we all appreciate a couple of pages of investor bs/pr spin/useless hype.

i dont really understand everyones QQ about the maps but i guess good luck??
WvW is about killing each other not having new maps to kill each other in..
DAOC had the same kitten maps for years and when they changed to the “new frontiers” the new maps had a HUGE backlash and thousands left the game.

new age MMO players playing a WvWvW game are wierd yo.

EDIT::::::::::::::::::: i do agree that maps could be a little more spread out tho… everything is a little to close. but meh

The maps in DAoC were MUCH larger and we had 3 distinctive ones as opposed to 2. Size is not an issue (so much), but it did have 3 different ones. New Frontiers sucked, yes.

I really hope they will at some point give the 3 Borderlands a unique feel. A jungle look and a desert look (when Crystal Desert is released for the expansion) would be awesome.

“We recently ran small tests on Live to help us move towards eliminating as much culling from WvW as possible. The results have been promising, and we have a number of additional culling features in development.”

The results were not promising. The results were really bad on the end of people who fight with few vs many as it severely cripples them.

If you incorporate culling similar to the test you ran then you are once more appealing to the “zerg everything” mentality while completely ignoring the dedicated WvW guilds that are in the game.

Elementalist is great in that there are many intricacies when it comes to playing the class and the skill cap is rather high. You may do well after just some time (as is evident by the many D/D Eles running around with Signet + Healing gear and spamming skills), but there’s still a long way to go for you to actually be at your best.

Highlet.8039:

Intigo.1653:

I wonder what part of this was edited by a Moderator, heh.

And no, I am right. Do you want me to go ingame just to prove how wrong you are?

Actually, I’ll go record it, just for a laugh.

Yep, you’re correct. Chance on crit shares cd with on swap.

Yeah, I already made a video for it once before. My example was Air + Battle, but the principle is the same for Strength + Battle, Strength just has a much lower cooldown.

Old video:

Here’s me proving it’s a bad combination with Strength + Battle:

IceTenacious.4126:

Intigo.1653:

That’s a terrible Sigil combo. The Strength Sigil does not proc while Sigil of Battle is on cooldown which is very often. It’s also only 10s Might duration. You’re much better off using Bloodlust & swapping for Force.

When Strength is on cooldown it also blocks Battle from granting Might stacks for a brief 1-2s.

Err nope, they both have a seperate cooldown. Also, the might duration isn’t a problem since you have a constant 20 stack in team fights. I don’t like the proc rate on bloodlust and the damage from the force sigil doesn’t scale with additional damage from might.

[Edited by moderator]

I wonder what part of this was edited by a Moderator, heh.

And no, I am right. Do you want me to go ingame just to prove how wrong you are?

Actually, I’ll go record it, just for a laugh.

Dalure.4691:

Cyril.1486:

There is no greater feeling than going head on with another guild in Wvwvw in this game. You can ask anybody from any of the top Wvwvw guilds playing this game. What i have said in the video is true we don’t plan on running off or leaving or anything like that it is great now but it could be even much better if you developers pushed in the right direction.

Amen to that Cyril……too bad i couldnt find you when you were on BT last day before you transfered….could have been epic hehe hope you get to T1 soon mate….tell Intigo thx for his mail but it was too late hehe

Goodluck RG……FG will be rdy when your server goes to T1

/Peace

Heh, I had to try in case you guys started early – we’ll have another chance and we can always downscale our numbers for GvG fights if necessary.

We’re moving up to Tier 3 on Friday, so we’ll be there fairly soon. Hopefully there are a great number of guilds on SFR / Deso that would be up for some GvG awesomeness.

That’s a terrible Sigil combo. The Strength Sigil does not proc while Sigil of Battle is on cooldown which is very often. It’s also only 10s Might duration. You’re much better off using Bloodlust & swapping for Force.

When Strength is on cooldown it also blocks Battle from granting Might stacks for a brief 1-2s.

I love my Asura, but I kinda wish I was a Human. I prefer their animations somewhat and since the Ascalonian Potion thingy breaks on RtL / Mist Form I can’t use that.

Another thing to consider is the fact that most weapon skins are so tiny on an Asura that you need pretty big weapons in order to ‘appreciate’ them when you’re zoomed out and just playing normally.

<3

KAZ and siN, 2 glorious Spanish guilds. Going to be fun when we meet you guys again in a few weeks.

It’s not really clear what you’re asking, but yes, if an on-Crit Sigil has procced recently then you cannot gain the effect from an on-Swap Sigil for the duration of the GCD on the on-Crit Sigil.

I use Battle and the GCD for that is 9-10s before it procs again from an Attunement swap. Here’s a quick video with Air + Battle that shows how the Air proc stops the Battle Sigil from proc’ing on Attunement swap.

Yes, of course they work if it doesn’t specifically say they only work in Fire.

Internal Fire (VI), One with Fire (X) and Pyromancer’s Puissance (XII) are the only traits that require you to really be in Fire to take advantage of them.

And most of those traits you mentioned are rubbish, like the rest of the Fire line.

This is why we rush to the breakout event:

Fanfaron.6109:

we miss u too, Lyric, hope we can clash some when somewhere else.

I definitely look forward to fighting ZDs again.

If you prefer YouTube for Pryda’s siN fights:

Many props to the awesome guilds we’ve fought in the last few months, hope we’ll get to have even more great fights.

Thunderbrew.7034:

Some people told me last night that there
are new items that will be available for badges come
February. I had to log off last night during WvW,
and was not able to hear more about it.

Has anyone heard the same thing, or know where
this information was posted?

The WvW update is in February. This will likely bring Ascended gear which may or may not be purchased with Badges – anyone who says it’s guaranteed or confirmed are probably full of it.

Master of Timespace.2548:

Please keep the drama coming! :PThe overall WvW experience is so steril this is the only way to spice it up a little. Without any drama, the points mean as much as the arbitary luxons-kurzicks line did in Guild Wars 1…

Nice to see Intigo, that you recorded our fights! They were some good duels. It was interesting to see how the fighting looked from your side.

Haha, yeah – good fights, we’ll have some more later. I have a feeling it’d be a lot better for me to play S/D vs that, even though it’s been a while.

Oh and, to keep in line with the thread; your class requires no skill which is fortunate because YOU’RE SO BAD AT GW 2.

killimandros.5087:

We are still gonna roll up our usual days, avoid the zergballs Red Gaurd

You are more than welcome to fight us in a GvG with equal numbers, if you feel we ‘zerg’ you too much.

While all ya’ll are busy arguing, I fought this super-cool Mesmer guy:

Any other players on Gandara up for some 1on1’s?

Akkarrin.3406:

PaGaNiNi.6978:

GL & HF guys lets have a good 1

When all the WvW guilds hop to the same server to beat up teir4 servers

That really isn’t why and RG was already on Piken Square before now a long time ago.

Anyway, impressive showing by Piken Square this reset.

Raincrow.1840:

entire argument is based on the ridiculous assumption that most players don’t have a clue how to play

Seems pretty valid to me. Your post is delusional at best. And no, the majority (if not all) of those attacks could have been easily avoided or countered with CC.

You feel “burst dmg is too high” because you’re bad at the game. The rest of us do not feel that way, because we are not.

Seed.5714:

The culling, clipping is not a theory is a fact….
what your are saying is non sense, because you use it too to a point I think it become exploit.
you can be walking and looking every corner (if people use culling with other heavy rendering effect to extended the culling it always work)

I am not saying that there is no culling in GW 2, why would you imply that I am? I am saying that culling and veils are used as an excuse far too often by bad players when in reality they don’t know how to pan their camera and scout accordingly. I have seen many guilds complain about culling and veils on here and then later seen them ingame where we have caught them from the side or from behind and none of them reacted at all. We know how to pan our camera and communicate incoming, but apparently others do not?

Much like the people in this thread going “omg burst is too high” when, back in reality once more, it can be easily avoided if you know how to play the game.

People use a lot of excuses when they are simply playing the game badly.

MarzAttakz.9608:

Chances are good that they never even saw the hits coming due to culling thus dodging or any defensive actions are rendered null for first contact. Kudos for not dropping Veil before your initial rushes though.

What a joke, they would easily see 12 people coming in most cases if they knew how to pan their camera. The “omg culling veil abuse” excuse is used by far too many terrible players who don’t know how to pan their camera and call incoming.

It’s sad how play this bad is given a chance to do well because of the Signet.

You should try remembering your cooldowns before you Updraft. You often used Updraft with 2s remaining on Burning Speed which means you didn’t have the combo ready.

Hecksa.7140:

You should really watch some proper guild vs guild fights sometime, so you can see how little “who can land the combo first” actually matters when you’re fighting against people who know where their dodge key is.

Look at that Hecksa, dishing out truths left and right. Not to mention how efficient crowd control is.

Krato.4729:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Km_KxMmNA

Some really nice fights for TUP this week, both with our smaller 10-man roamers and full 25-man warband. Particular mention to [LdF] (seen smashing into our flank in the above video) and [NOM], with whom we have had several epic fights. Also a big shout out to our brosephs in Semper Dius from Gandara.

When are you going to encode your videos properly so you don’t have black bars? :p

The Boon Duration Runes are 15%, not 20%. Other than that, it’s just a few Might Duration runes on top of the normal setup, nothing that special about it.

Playing in a ~20 man guild group will do wonders for your Badge farming. When grouped you will tag more people and as such get additional bags overall.

Honestly, there’s no great “trick” to Badge farming, it directly relates to the number of kills you get. Farming unorganized and weak zergs with a guild group gives you great Badges. Additionally, the JP’s are very quick to do and give guaranteed Badges.

From guild WvW, this is my stash so far.

Whirlpool is our only underwater Elite and that goes for all races.

Video was pretty good! The quality was awesome, super jelly of that.

Raincrow.1840:

Burst is too high in this game.

The vid itself is cool, shows what an organized team can do. Good job to the people in the video…… But the reality is, anytime a small group can kill 15-20+ people in a matter of seconds, you know the game is pretty much broken. It stops being skill and turns into who can land the combo first.

It’s funny because I’ve had debates with people who claim players don’t die too fast in GW2… this video proves me right.

Are you seriously saying this? When you’re taking concentrated fire from 20+ people and you don’t move/dodge then YES, you are going to DIE because you deserve to.

And you are delusional to think that’s how higher level WvW fights work. RG has had some amazing GvG fights lately and there’s so much more to fighting than you think you’ve seen in this video. VoTF doesn’t really do much in regards to organized CC and regrouping, but that doesn’t mean the game is “all about who can land their combo first”.

You honestly do not know what you are talking about and should try having some high level WvW fights before you pretend to know anything about it.

rhodoc.2381:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elemental_Surge

“For Arcane Shield, the effect triggers if the shield shatters.”

To elaborate on this, it will cause the effect to everyone hit by the shatter from the Shield. That makes it pretty powerful AoE-wise actually, quite a bit of bursty style damage from the shatter + Burning effect if you’re in Fire.

Your reply when you test it again:

“lol idk what went wrong but it works now xD glitch in the matrix or smth xD”