So we face a force easily 3x the size of our 20 person zerg on TCBL, they drive us back to garrison from bay, and then they simultaneously /laugh at us. My chat log is having convulsions right about now.
Keep it classy, SoR. Keep it classy.
That was just to get your guys to charge out it wasn’t anything personal.
Is BG actually doing a blackout? I’ve been sitting here refreshing the world selection page since BG’s WvW score started to tank and I haven’t seen Blackgate move down to “Very High” once. Maybe I missed it.
We won that one actually. Or at least we cleared the field. A lot of BG pulled back into the cover of arrow cart fire so there was no way to effectively pursue.
Israel mate not sure how long you were apart of BG or who you were speaking to so im not sure if you remember Laylyn, the person from haunt who was trying to balance out 6 -8 servers just before Anet decided to end free transfers
I think we all know what happened during free transfer month
we were telling transfers not to come to BG, JQ, SoS, SoR but go to TC or CD even yaks (i think they were the next strongest servers)
Laylyn has since given up trying as no other server was being honest enough to spread out the transfers, plus being disheartened about the transfers stacking on 2 servers again (plus i think busy with RL stuff, correct me if im wrong Laylyn)
now that SoR are winning of course they are telling transfers to go to another server and I applaud them doing so, I don’t think anyone wants a superstacked server we can see how well that worked out in the EU matchups
I have no reason to doubt that what you’re telling me is true though I cannot recall ever meeting Laylyn.
I think BG went into hardcore recruiting mode to try and deal with JQ back when JQ was dominating t1 and I was totally onboard with those efforts. JQ had round-the-clock coverage and I thought it was a reasonable idea that BG should try to have the same to be able to compete effectively.
Interesting perspective. And if it is true, impressive if they’ve got the entire server all on the same page. How that is even possible I don’t know though, so many different players and guilds.
You got us all curious now, what does that even mean?
There seems to be a widely held set of beliefs about what is the right way to play this game and it seems like many of them won’t diverge from those beliefs even if it means they might lose.
Like I’ve heard many of the say on TS that they won’t help guilds transfer over for example. A lot of them talk about balancing the tier out instead of dominating it.
I’ve even heard some of the guild leaders say that they’ve turned away guilds that were interested in transferring just because they thought it might unbalance the tier.
I never really heard anyone on BG get overly concerned about that sort of thing.
I also don’t see as many guilds put in big overtime like I did on BG.
I played for several months on Blackgate server and now I’ve spent a little over two weeks on SoR and I have to say that I think there are some pronounced differences between the way each server operates on multiple levels so it’s turned out to be more than just forum rhetoric.
You guys do a really good job of putting the fight where you want it to be. We killed so many at the door of Cliffside but then you guys pushed to the top and that made the difference.
It seems like this siege problem is exaggerating the effects of coverage gaps since it’s no longer possible to defend stuff with anything less than a zerg.
Really depends on the build. Depends on the person and what you like playing, what you have experience playing etc. For example I play an HGH condi nade engi and it’s pretty simple imo but there are engi builds which require a lot more kit swapping and counterplay.
I usually find ranged classes to be easier to play than melee because when I play ranged I generally have a better view of the fight and I can play with distance to avoid damage. When I play my guardian I feel like I have a harder time keeping track of the whole fight.
I transferred to SoR last week but it wasn’t because of any animosity towards BG or any of the people there I just thought it would be fun to play with new people and against old allies and so far I haven’t been disappointed.
You there, BG. What is your profession?
I’m a cursed shore farmer sir.
And you, JQer. What is your profession?
CoFer, sir,
CoFer… and you?
Roleplayer.
RALLIANS, WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?
AAAAAOOOOOO AAAAAOOOOOO AAAAAOOOOOO
You see old friends, we brought more soldiers then you did.
I’m sure there are plenty of people on all three servers who do nothing but WvW every single day. I spend like 6-10 hours a day in the mists during the week. Used to be like that with WvW.
the only mistake BG did was they wanted to build up a community that will win quick. Nope its not gonna happen.
Well technically it did happen but to sustain it over time requires constant recruitment and someone simultaneously trying to motivate everyone on the server to be in WvW all the time and that’s not an easy thing to do.
Kind of a shame to see BG throwing the match like this. Not sure what sort of a guild would want to try to transfer to a server who throws a hissy fit when their competition obtains one guild.
I think people are just disappointed right now. A lot of our guilds/players work really hard at WvW and they put massive amounts of time and resources into trying to win.
I think once they add ascended gear to WvW people will have more of a clear cut reason to play.
WvW will be another way of getting the new gear. I know it would motivate me I love getting new gear and I’ve currently got 4 toons to gear out. Soon to be 5 once I finish my guardian.
WvW is as fun as you make it. Just because you’re losing doesn’t mean you can’t have fun. SoR has put up with losing way more often than anyone and fighting uphill has never stopped us, why should it stop you? Oh right, cause all you care about is winning.
WvW is only fun for BG when they outnumber you 4:1.
WvW isn’t really that much fun for me personally because I have nothing to work on. I kinda just go out there to take a break from grinding glory/rank.
I dunno about the rest of BG and what their motives are.
You need to motivate your servers community to get into WvW. SoR has an amazing community and we assign every guild we know off to a borderland at reset night (apart from Ace he solos SoR-BL for us).
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But PvE pays better and sPvP/tPvP is more actual pvp against more skilled opponents in a more controlled environment so what do we tell people?
The reality is that you got outplayed with lesser numbers so far this week
I understand that you think this and it’s only natural that someone in your positon would think so and you might be right. But it’s also entirely possible that a lot more SoR turned up for WvW this week than did BG or JQ.
We can’t really be sure either way because all we have to go on is “very high” and “full.”
The very high and full just means overall server pop it has nothing to do with wvw pop. BG and JQ your servers are more saturated than SoRs. That has nothing to do with wvw.
A lot of pugs are not in wvw right now on all sides, I think it would be a safer assumption that BGs militia is comprised of more pugs than SoRs. Same on JQ to a lesser degree since its been reported thata couple major WvW guilds are either on a hiatus or left. SoR is by no means fielding as many players as normal.
Right exactly. We can only make assumptions based on the outcome but we lack the information to make conclusive statements so we’re left to speculate. That’s no good imo.
I really think more information could be incredibly useful. I can’t even find out how many people are online on BG atm. I cannot find out how many are online on SoR or JQ. All I have is a scoreboard.
The reality is that you got outplayed with lesser numbers so far this week
I understand that you think this and it’s only natural that someone in your positon would think so and you might be right. But it’s also entirely possible that a lot more SoR turned up for WvW this week than did BG or JQ.
We can’t really be sure either way because all we have to go on is “very high” and “full.”
I just want to say that I think SoR as a server has worked really hard this week and if you guys win I think it will be well deserved. I’m not trying to take anything away from what SoR has accomplished and even though I’m naturally disappointed that BG isn’t having a great week I actually think this week has been a lot of fun pvp-wise. I’ve definitely had a lot of fun fights when I’ve gone into WvW. I’m not trying to inject negativity into the thread I’m just saying that I find some of the rhetoric a little tiresome.
Cant tell if jokingly serious or seriously joking.
I see no reason why you would question my sincerity I think I raised valid questions about the data I was provided as “proof” of population difference.
This is how (taken during North American prime-time aka now).
The difference between SoR 3 weeks ago and SoR right now is just 1 guild IRON and they only brought about 80 people.
In that picture t7 servers are given the same status as t1 servers. One might think from looking at that picture that Gate of Madness has the same number of people as SoR. Seems unlikely.
We don’t know what Anet sets the server cap at. What is the population difference between a server marked “full” and a server marked “very high?” Does Anet actively monitor population levels when they’ve marked a server “full” or do they just mark the server and then leave it like that until further notice? What about a server marked “very high?”
For all I know, we could be talking about a very small difference in total population. I also think I’m safe in assuming that Anet doesn’t differentiate between PvErs, WvWers, sPvPers/tPvPers etc when counting total server population so SoR could actually have a much larger WvW population than either JQ or BG.
I understand the rhetorical value of forming a narrative like “we’re the underdog” or whatever but I really don’t buy it personally. If SoR only got 80 more people from IRON then SoR has had the rest of this huge number of people this whole time they just haven’t been turning up for WvW.
There are soo many variables even fighting same class from pc lag to skill lag, long late play hours that you win and lose some. I would never bother to compile a video showing all the times that I have won fights… because I have nothing to prove.
I let you in a little secret, my 13 yr. old son loves playing thief and he wins most of the time.
The implication being that thief must be easy mode if a 13 yr old can win with it?
People in wvw die to thieves because EVERY thief is built for dueling and 1v1 while 80% of the wvwvw people are built for group fights… Also there already are alot of threads about how broken the class is in wvw as opposed to spvp.
Thief is the easiest class to solo play in wvw if you are skilled and like challenge play a different class and do the same. Until then it’s all the same to me.
