Guild Wars 2

Mostly you can buy the Exotic gear at the Temples in Orr, but you can also buy cultural weapons (for the skin), the orrian gambling jewelry box or just let it keep stocking after you have nothing else to buy… (I still have over 800k karma and all my level 80 toons are full exotic already).

Hello T8. This is Jeknar, Ex-Blackgate forum warrior, representing ET in the next matchup (and problably all others after that). I know it’s a little early but I’ll host our little score/discussion thread this week…

I’d say the only real change this week is that SF should belive in HoD/GoM to kill NSP as they try to not lose rating again and maybe leave the Blackhole .

Other than that, let us fight…

A kitten die everytime you choose SF over ET/FC. Don’t kill kittens!

Dead man don’t tell tales… Looks like they don’t loot aswell…

FilthyRat.4652 and imalog.7689.

Don’t forget NSP will have a lot of points stolen at the first week unless they do a massacre on T7… That will increase the rating gap between HoD (which will be red next week) and SF even more…

The best bet for SF if they really want to leave T8 is that NSP die and drop dead.

drwookie.6391:

I say he should be truly invincible for the timer.

Determined buff for 5min is the way to go… Dunno why they aren’t using this buff in the first place…

zaniix.9074:

I think the person that called it “coverage wars” was right. Everyone wants to think its their tactics that win, but for most servers it really comes down to having enough players 24/7.

Personally I would prefer an even match up so that you knew you won because you played better that day or that week, but Wv3 isn’t designed to be fair. How many guilds will choose to do the new guild missions and spend less time in Wv3? That can have a huge impact, its just the way of it.

I doubt that many guilds will do that… Most guilds that do serious Wv3 doesn’t give a kitten about PvE stuff. They have their own PvE’er team to do that while they fight on Wv3.

Bedstain.6735:

Jeknar.6184:

Churchill.8714:

People join your server and you trash talk them?

Yes, Blackgate is already enough of a bandwagon… Now we get a lot more of bandwagoners from the biggest of the old Bandwagons, ruining even more the old blackgate… I miss the days when we had no big guilds and the community was all around medium-small sized guilds helping each other.

So, no, i’m not welcoming the SoS players…

That is ridiculous considering that all the guilds that transferred are the same ones that brought SoS to tier 1. Don’t welcome us, but don’t brag when Blackgate hits t1 and an even match up with JQ begins

Blackgate reached T1 TWICE without your help… But I don’t care anymore… I’ve already a new home to have fun with it… Happy T1 for you.

Intigo.1653:

They are not completely invincible against an organized group.

If they are immune to conditions and immune to damage i wonder how your “organized group” can kill it, since you can no longer stack vulnerability to damage him.

You are the one that failed in the first place if you didn’t defended the camp and want to retake it right away… The 5min buff is your punishment for not defending it.

Zen.8497:

Best solution is to have WvW and PvE separate servers.

Or remove all WvW requeriments for PvE stuff…

FilthyRat.4652:

Lol …but you are trying to recruit people to come to a server that will be stuck here for how long? And I don’t think we will be here for months…but how long do you guys see yourselves staying in this tier?

If you check the system, you will see that you will lose rating even though you are doubling our score… It’s not ET or FC that will keep you from going, it’s glicko.

Also, if ET and FC grow bigger, SF will have more challenging fights, which i’m sure that are more fun than simply PvDoor empty keeps and towers.

Besides, you are getting about the same bonuses as the “almighty Jade Quarry”. So why worry about leaving the tier if you can contribute to make it more fun? (Also since we are the T8, we’ll never lose a server that is on the bottom, only the one at top.

FilthyRat.4652:

Do you like excitement? How about adventure? Or badges raining from the sky? If so Sorrow’s Furnace isn’t the place for you.

Fixed that for you… There is no excitement or adventure in overdominate a tier because you outnumber your enemy or have more coverage. And unless NSP is really bad (or really good to drain a lot of points from GoM and HoD), SF will be stuck on T8 for a few months (thank the system).

Sid.8512:

It would neat if you could merge European and American servers together to make 17 tiers. Yes, there will be an issues when it comes to time zones and some other things. But still battles will be more epic and you will play a variety of servers each week.

We already have issues with timzones… What different it would make? There are NA servers with Euro presence, and Euro servers with NA presence… To not mention Asia and Oceanic.

I see no issue in merging both ladders.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Slamz.5376:

There’s probably nothing you can’t accomplish with a surprise attack that uses enough golems. Really a surprise attack and 6 rams will get through two reinforced gates pretty quick and isn’t that tough or expensive to do.

If you had some means of rallying the PvE map completers you could probably set something up to raid the spots you need, one day at a time, one surprise attack at a time.

Siege can be obtained for free via the jumping puzzles. The borderland jumping puzzles are pretty easy.

Note that if the last vista you need is something like the one at Hills, you don’t even need to break the inner keep and breaking the outer gate is easy even with a small crew. The only really tough one would be the garrison…

Even then:
10 people
10 golems
shuttle supply in from some other map
Get a couple mesmers to help teleport you along
off-primetime water gate attack
break both gates
jump out of the golems
run up to the vista

You don’t need to capture the garrison, you just have to get inside and up to the dome long enough to click the vista.

You know whats funny? The last one I need requires the Garrison :/

And unfortunelly for you, Garrison vista is inside the innergate.

Problably the screwed BL stuff people discussed on other topics… They are aware but no solution yet.

You don’t have to use the gems to go back to your server if all that you do is PvE… You can guest everyday in your old server… But still 1000 gems will have to come out unless you step in and fight.

Caedmon.6798:

I..and i think many other people have been suggesting this exact thing since…August ? No response,nothing being done,just give it up buddy they dont care what we think or what we want.

They didn’t reseted the ratings because of the community cried a lot about it.
They changed the number on the orange swords because the community cried about it.
And now you say they don’t care about what the community say?

Besides, i’m sure that with the culling you barely can see the enemies alive… Even more their copses… So i’d say they have other priorities to attent to.

Mance.5640:

I bet the first place team in any Tier gets better rewards than a team in 2nd or 3rd…

What he mean is: JQ do boring jobs to get the same reward as SF without having to do it…

Slamz.5376:

kuora.5402:

You need scouts now though.

No you don’t.

What does owning a tower get you? Points, and some really minor bonuses that reset every week. Most people don’t care.

What does TAKING a tower get you? Karma, XP, money and usually credit towards something or another in your daily. Not to mention loot and badges from killing the guards and any scouts that happen to wander in too late.

I think you’ll find that the number of people who care about “winning”, which is a pretty meaningless thing to do, is relatively small compared to the number of people out to farm up some goodies.

The day will come when people will yell at you for defending a tower, because they want to take it back. Happens in other games that make offense easier and more rewarding than defense. “Only noobs scout and defend. Stop hurting the team.”

In other words, WvW will now just become a grind fest eh?

Jscull.2514:

Yes Add pve….to culling. Terrible.

Let’s face the facts… Culling have no solution. It exist, and we’ll have to deal with it.
Also i don’t see where a few NPC can make culling worse… I always see the NPC guards already rendered even when players are not. Since players never render anyway, i don’t see where it’s a issue.

That would give to people who cry about having to sit now in a tower/keep for guarding somenthing to do…

Someone tested and discovered a way to set sieges… Thankfully if you see someone camping with sieges you can report’em as exploiters…

No big deal i’d say.

Farout.8207:

This game feels more like a job every day…

If you don’t like your job you can resign…

Ruin.3461:

Humility. The fact that you spent 100 gold means nothing. Listen to your server mates, and realize you’re not there to make brilliant tactical decisions, you’re there to provide a shiny icon for people to follow.

And what to do when you have two different opinions from your server mates? You can’t just follow both.

SonOfKrypton.4357:

But does making people not want to play really benefit your enjoyment in the long run though?

Why not change maps then? You will only get spawn camped if you are outnumbered, and you can’t really do much on that state… Now if you are being spawn camped in 4/4. Your server have some serious issues…

Think: why should they allow you to leave your spawn point to capture bases?
They are cutting your reinforcements. Which i’d call a valid tatic…

DaBleuberry.1780:

zeus.2375:

Jeknar.6184:

Ok, i’ll just transfer to Fergusson’s Crossing and then pay the gems i just got to transfer to Jade Quarry.

Flawed idea i’d say.

Not only that but you will profit 400 extra gems.
I like the idea but will need to be fine tuned.

Actualy I think that you would be short 200 gems

Still 200gems is around 5g… I can get that quick by doing a few CoF 1 runs.

insanemaniac.2456:

FC is red ! and a lot more room to grow than every other server !

You lie! ET have about the same room as you, maybe even more…

SoR is blue… BG will be red.

Ok, i’ll just transfer to Fergusson’s Crossing and then pay the gems i just got to transfer to Jade Quarry.

Flawed idea i’d say.

Haldunius.7864:

Jayne.9251:

Apparently this was happening on blackgate last night …. See WvW overflow thread on the next page.

I shudder to think what will happen to the servers when BG and JQ meet up then….

Stay tunned for next week…

rhyein.6172:

It requires people to do things that have 0 rewards and are intrinsically boring. Sentrying is only fun if your objective actually gets attacked. Sit in a keep for 2 hours while no one attacks it and see how much you like the change. All the people saying how white swords serve the same function have no idea what they’re talking about. It takes 3 thieves to contest every objective on the map. Good luck making heads or tails of that.

Tell me how fun and rewarding is escorting dolyaks…

Pendragon.8735:

It’s bad. This morning my server had about 20 people on the map, trying to retake garrison from maybe 15 defending. No commander on the map. For 30 minutes every person that came into WvW had no idea where the fight was and asked the same darn question about where to go, what is going on (probably more didn’t bother to ask and just left because it looked dead, no markers on the map). Got really old after about the 10th time in 10 minutes to repeat to each new person where to go.

In the old system, they’d simply have seen the orange swords denoting the back and forth skirmish that was going on in the field north of the garrison, and naturally gravitated over there.

It was a major hassle and hindrance and detracted from the gamemode and from getting players engaged and fighting each other.

White swords are usually a sign of enemy activity (even the darn thief hitting the door). If you look at the map a see a lot of white swords and assume there is no activity, well my friend, i think you’re ninja’ed a lot…

Maladon.5760:

Jae.9682:

Actually, lowbies in zergs are a huge detriment to the zerg. They eat boons, condition removals, heals and still die in a heartbeat.

On the off chance that a green arrow is following us, they won’t get a rez from us. Not that we have anything against them playing in wvw, but we don’t want them decreasing our effectiveness.

They also draw fire and use their own abilities, some of which may actually be beneficial to the zerg. The math doesn’t support your claim that removing a person from the zerg actually increases it’s overall effectiveness. I know you probably only said it to sound like an elite WvW veteran but it’s just a silly claim that deserves a bit of ridicule.

That’s how it works in BG now… Either you’re part of the big guilds plan, or you’re out… Randoms no longer have a place on it. I’m sure there will be no commander pins if they really make the private squad option.

Strange… I recall EBay being alive at least until they got a beating once they reached T4 two weeks ago… People on there already gave up?

Maladon.5760:

I feel like I should transfer to your server and buy you some dyes…

The pink there is intentional… That character was meant only to make fun of my enemies, as his sole purpose is to annoy campers on the JP (and some times port people up). But i would apreciate any dye that isn’t at that table:

MerlinGamer.7410:

Thanks for the reply.

I know your stats are boosted in PVE and fractles but I don’t know about WvW.

It’s the same system… I just tested on fractals because my little bandwagon get queues easier now…

On side note… I’ve only seen two guys from Anet on the game so far (you can regonize they from the red Anet icon near their name if you ever see one), and both were warriors…

Edit: Couldn’t find the Screenshot of the other one…

Indeed, everything is scaled according with your equipment. Here is a screenshot of my level 35 mesmer upleveled. You can see stats which aren’t buffed (near 916) because of they do not exist in my gear or traits.

My Dead Characters.9517:

you realize the jp has trap MADE FOR CAMPERS!!!!! they want it to be camped. nothing new here, move along people.

And the truth come out…

Ljiona.9142:

Which server will be the next to crash and burn?

I don’t think there will be more major colapses… But the next server that will suffer a huge exodus will be either SoR, which is composed by SoR+SBI (People who fled during the fall), or BG, which is composed by BG+SoS (People who fled during the fall). But knowing both SoR and BG core communities, their tenacity won’t allow such a long fall to the bottom.

Maybe JQ if for some reason it start losing? But then we will get Kaineng as the next T1 “Superserver” since it will be waiting quietly in the 4th position.

ghtchill.7613:

Whaaaa? I haven’t had time to log into the game yet after downloading the patch. So we have to do a Fractals to get the daily now? Is this correct?

You can, but you don’t need to… You only need to fulfill 5 of the objectives on the list, and the list vary… Today’s list have no fractals:

- Daily Kill Variety (13)
- Daily Aquatic Slayer (25)
- Daily Gatherer (20)
- Peronal Story Completer (1)
- Daily Healer (10)
- Mystic Forge Smith (5)
- Keg Brawl Stealer (5)
- Group Event (2)
- Invader Kills (10)

ComeAndSee.1356:

I’ve jumped around my fair share of servers, but that’s because I don’t feel any real attachment to what server I’m playing on because Gw2Lfg + Overflow makes finding groups on ANY server easy.

Server home bases only come into play in WvW.

Isn’t WvW the theme here?

Isaac.6041:

Transferring is not the smartest move in my opinion.

You’re paying ArenaNet to transfer all your characters to another server. And by the way that service used to free.

You could have simply bought another account and created new characters on your new home world. It’s about the same cost.

So you can stay in your old world and experience the new world at the same time.

Tell me how 20 dollars is the same as 60 dollars?

Kincaidia.3192:

You know what was really messed up? On Fort Aspen, we were stomping the opposition and had dragonbrand’s keep in EB (it’s fairly irrelevant, so I’m not going to QQ about this part) – they forced a restart and by the time we got back in and the whole way across the map the keep was taken.

Then SMC fell – and there were never even white swords. I was watching it on the map religiously because it was the next logical strategic move, and I stayed within site of one of the gates, scouting and watching my map. Not a blip. No orange swords. No white swords. Just switched.

Awesome.

If your castle turned without white swords it means something is wrong, and it’s not the orange sword change…

The only bad part in my opinion is that you can stealth golem rush… Aside that, everything seen’s ok.

On side note: Call Ehmry Bay Ebay… Everytime you say EB i auto think about Eternal Battleground and then comes the “wtf is he saying” moment…

Eduardo.4675:

Thats wrong.
I have only one pve only daily: group events, need 2 of them. I need to go Orr or something to get this one faster/easier. Thats all.

Grub, Arboreal Spirit and whateverotherbossgreenareahave are group events…

Churchill.8714:

People join your server and you trash talk them?

Yes, Blackgate is already enough of a bandwagon… Now we get a lot more of bandwagoners from the biggest of the old Bandwagons, ruining even more the old blackgate… I miss the days when we had no big guilds and the community was all around medium-small sized guilds helping each other.

So, no, i’m not welcoming the SoS players…

Sovereign.1093:

The game seems so quiet now, then bam. A tower or keep turns into something else.

Why you wasn’t capturing a tower or keep too?