Guild Wars 2

Esoteric.5490:

Miiaah.5416:

Where did BG pick up numbers, seems to me we lost big numbers since our T2 days.

Please stop trolling. We benefited from the end of free transfers greatly. Other servers may have gotten more players from them (JQ) or already had more players (SoS), but that does not mean that we don’t have more players by any stretch of the imagination. 1 guild moved off of Blackgate because they wanted to play with more of their countrymen and, in return, many more than that transferred to us.

I still see 2 outnumbered borderlands all the way through SA/NA primetime… We hardly received people where we really needed…

But that’s my 2 coppers…

Orikx.9671:

SoS. Of all the servers we have faced I had the most fun against them. Was great open field fights during NA prime. I don’t know how much they have changed since then though it’s been a few months.

Preposterous… A SoR choosing SoS over BG! I’ll take that as an insult!

Erlex.4518:

Server wins, everyone rejoices! Now we can….um…FIGHT THEM AGAIN!. Makes no sense lol.

Wish they would implement like a 20/10% magic find/karma/xp/coin drop buff to everyone on the first and second place team. Give people a reason to want to win, fight till the end, not just wait it out to try again the next week if they get behind.

If you don’t fight for the fun, you’re not doing it right…

I think no projectible blocking skill should block trebs and catas… I want to see people scream when they see the fiery rock raining down and there is nothing they can do about but go there and take out the enemy siege…

Invalid.8765:

Kinda dumb that Anet still does this. Hours of planning doesn’t matter, Anet still resets on primetime for stupid minor fixes that could be done with a notice and maybe not at peak times….

Your primetime isn’t everyone’s primetime… If they don’t do it in your primetime, they will do in someone’s else…

Camman.2984:

As someone who plays BG, I do NOT want to fight Sanctum of Rall or Henge of Denravi. People on that server just kitten me off. Dumb stuff like building a ton of siege in the jump game. Or having squads of theives jump you outside your base. Just stuff that pisses me off.

Then add to your list TC, JQ, SoS, CD, FA, IoJ… Well you got the idea… All servers do that, BG included…

Peetee.9406:

BG/SoS/SoR

Perfect tier

+1

I’m sure SoR want revenge…

kyro.8162:

BG, no particular reason.

SoR. And I do have particular reasons :p

Catisa.6507:

Fees have nothing to do with WvW populations (impossible to quantify and only a portion of server resources) or tier positions.

This is the point… They CAN’T quantify WvW population… Look to Isle of Janthir for exemple. The server is dead on WvWvW, but if you check, they still have HIGH at total population.

IF they only take the WvWvW population in account, they would flood some servers over the actual server capacity (Like if IoJ start to get long queues for WvWvW and keep the high PvE population it still have) which will cause way more serious issues like lag and crash.

Magnetron.5823:

Hence i would introduce drops for only WvW that include WvW PvP bonusses

Asura Nightvision Googles to see through the endless thief stealth.

People already hate alpha and omega and now you want to add a megazord? It would be interesting if it was somenthing in the middle of the map that can be contested by everyone.

But as far i can see, the guys on WvW hate events, hate mobs, hate NPC and hate you who like it.

Dee Jay.2460:

snacktime.1082:

unique borderlands per server would make for unbalanced play. There is no way they could balance that correctly, which is why it is the way it is.

Bollox, the layout of the map has very, very minute impact on the actual WvW outcome/performance.

The Eternal Battleground doesn’t have an identical layout for every Keep and is still balanced.

I’ve heard already a lot of QQ about how hard is to take Red keep Overlook and how vulnerable is the Blue keep whichthenameidontremember.
Maybe those are minor unbalances, but problably because you can easily siege those keep from anywhere (any of the 4 towers around it).

I agree that bay is the easiest keep to take (you can even siege it from a fricken Supply camp with natural walls). But i think the hardest one is Overlook (Red keep) in EB.

Making diferent borderlands for each server would generate QQ about how team X is winning because they have Y borderland… I hear that kind of thing since 2005 when Alterac Valley was implemented on World of Warcraft.

However i would change how the Borderlands currently are… Let’s see if i can make you people understand my idea.

This is how i see the WvWvW in general: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/Jeknar/WvWvW_zpsfa61509c.png

With that vision, I think the borderlands maps need to change, as if you were actually being attacked by two differents worlds one at each side (yes, a 2v1 feeling, because it is what its suposed to be defending your homeland).

I did some paint-made sketch of how i think the maps should be… I don’t really care about the terrain, maybe some hills or more water… But not making some lowground useless place like the Bay Keep (which can’t counter treb anything but colorbriar).

Borderlands: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/Jeknar/BorderlandMapSketch_zpscb7849bf.png
Eternal Battleground: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/Jeknar/EternalBattlegroundSketch_zpsffde2289.png

K stands for Keeps
T stands for Towers
C stands for Supply Camps
S stands for Sentry Stations

I think EB stayed pretty much the same with some minor changes on routes and 3 extra camps.

And for Sentry Stations, i don’t mean that lone guard sitting on the road waiting for the next noob to come pummel him… I’d turn it into a Small Tower (like the ones the dredge use on Lornar Pass and Dredgehaunt Cliffs) with a few guards who can actually stop undefended supply caravans (and give a little more trouble for solo roamers/escorts).

I’ve also removed Skritts, Centaurs, Quaggans, Hyleks, Dredges and Ogres from the sketchs and added a few more Camps and Towers (Maybe that would make PvP’ers happy, since they call it PvE stuff).

Burl.9567:

You didn’t get the memo?

Nope… I heard you guys were dominating, but not that much… I’ll just go back to my race forums (that’s it, if it doesn’t belong to SoR aswell) and leave your yard clean.

I think only Sword and bow are useful… The axe can be outplayed by many class weapons skills, the lighting hammer isn’t reliable and idk what the shield actually is good for.

So the WvWvW forum belong to SoR now?

You can’t predict when someone will leave a WvWvW map period

Sanctum of Rall will be gone next week, and you’ll be able to get it…
Or not… Since Blackgate is comming back…

Thieves and their culling abuse…

YE CAN TAKE OUR KEEPS!
YE CAN TAKE OUR DOLYAKS!
BUT YE CAN ’EVER TAKE… OUR PRIDE!!!

FOR THE BLACKGATE!!!

hex.3218:

RESET RESET RESET!!!

Three weeks of sheer chaos as margin of victory will determine the placement in week 2!!!! Some awesomely lopsided match ups and finally a break from this repetitive madness!

Oh man oh man oh man.

I normally don’t advocate throwing a match, but how much fun would it be to take that first week off and get sent to LAST! hahahahaha…

Oh the possibilities. Oh the fun!

The horror! The horror!!!!

SoR must be really kitten #8230; Just when they got a pass to T1…

IDC about treb from inside walls as long you can counter it… Bay can’t counter Garisson and Colorlake can’t counter Hills (maybe there is more, but I haven’t noticed yet)… All you can do is watch as the enemy team slowly take your base…

PvP’ers will aways hate PvE on their PvP… However i’d say removing all NPC’s that can be considerated PvE (I’d include the guards too, since according with the “PvP’er” it’s player’s duty to guard stuff) would make WvW look like a big dead map.

Of course I don’t think the idea of having the useless Skritt/Centaur camps is good. But i think that more dynamic stuff in the map is needed.

There is only one thing i have sure about T1: “The Train is coming…”

Too bad i might miss it…

Scores, scores…

[img]https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/40975/gw145.jpg[/img]

It would be a shame for SoS to keep going like this…

Bakus.9348:

It is kinda funny… last week BG was crying that SoS and JQ was 2v1 them. This week JQ is crying about 2v1. When is it SoS turn! I want to cry about a 2v1!

What i find funny is the fact that JQ kept saying that “2v1” was a legit tactic in T1 and that BG had to stick with and blahblahblah, and now they are crying over it… No wonder they got the nickname JQQ.

You guys need to do some recruiting on BG’s PvE community too… The server is full, so we problably won’t get as much transfers as we need… And BG have a big PvE community.

Ruprect.7260:

I got a Zap last week. Since then I get nothing but badges and claws.

Precursor from WvW? Sry bro, but i don’t belive you… SS or it never happened…

“Splish, Splash… Four norn in a bath…”

Wait i’m a Sylvari!

Mance.5640:

Sunspots, you know all of this T1 play from playing on TC? Also you obviously don’t know anything about JQ.

Also, if that’s how TC play on T2, it’s no wonder SoR complained so much about being pushed by BG/TC and TC still on 3rd…

But that’s just my opinion…

I can keep swiftness up 100% in my warrior with only 25% boon duration, signet of rage (the only real useful elite for a solo warrior) and 1 banner (of your choice). Stop crying, I didn’t even used weapon swap.

Liquid.9672:

Sunspots.9861:

BG shoud be fighting for second place. Any third place team that is new to a bracket that isn’t clawing and fighting for any success they can get would be foolish. If I played for BG I’d be squeezing the crap out of JQ at all hours because the best way to change the horizon of the T1 landscape is to first take JQ out of the picture. I have no horse in this race, but I do see things shaking up soon.

You can take 2nd place by squeezing PPT out of the leader too, while tightening the score at the same time thus leeching off their rating if you don’t manage 2nd. Win win. Just because a server is in 2nd place doesn’t always make them a softer target.

Acording with some Jahn or whatever he was called, that kept posting how BG wasn’t going to go T1 because of the way we played in T2, Both #2 and #3 should attack the leader if they want to move up… And since the score is based on the gap between your server and the top server, that does really make sense… Narrowing that gap would make SoS lose points, JQ moving to #1 and BG to #2 (that’s if both servers leech enough rating from SoS). Attacking JQ would only give rating to SoS for widening the gap between #1 and #2…

I think it was somenthing like that… I don’t really bother understanding how that flawed system work.

That lake is big to hinder troop movement since most of you hate underwater fighting… And why the hell are you fighting in an edge of the lake? The only places that have water close is the Bay Keep and the (Color)water Supply Camp.

Ardon.4105:

I wonder what blackgate drinks? Does anyone know?

Coffe… To stay awake late night!

Lanthrudar.1437:

Niim.9260:

While they are doing this, they should also make it so that sentries have a point. Whatever the new setup is, they should be able to stop a dolyak from getting through. Dolyaks just walking past them, defeats the point of them even being there imo.

Roving route guards? Hmm, be interesting if a 5-6 pack of mixed vet guards roamed the roads like they do around the supply camps. Independent of the yaks themselves (who would have their own guard party)

That would make the sentries actually usefull providing that this come from the road (thus the sentry) and not from the camp… I just see they as easy exp/karma/silver gain right now since it’s simply a lone veteran in the middle of a desert road (and it’s a veteran even weaker than those random veteran events in the borderlands maps).

I’ve already seen BG make a comeback from 40k difference in the board against SoR and IoJ. As long you can keep the #1 down, you have a chance to make it…

Question is: Can SoS really be kept down?

At least we might catch JQ on that week.

Well, looks like the euro guys are doing their job (It’s night on euro now right?), we just need to be able to hold it, so we don’t lose all the progress they make.

IoJ had no Oceanic coverage?! IoJ ONLY had Oceanic coverage!

But let’s keep this fact in the past…

Since you guys came with the PuG topic, let’s see what i have here…
Being member of a small friends guild, i think i do enter in that category… I’ve seen many small groups run around like me killing yaks and flipping camps, when not joining a commander squad (i can’t join a commander due hardware issues, but that’s not on the topic) and the situation usually is good… But only when there is a commander around! When the Blue Dorito Man doesn’t show up, i feel like the PuG simply don’t want to try anything…
I’ve already sat at SoR BL for hours with no commander up, trying to rally PuGs to try take towers and maybe even a keep, but they just don’t want to try. Either they don’t belive that we are capable, or they simply don’t care about the game. I know that not all PuGs know big strategies or maybe siege placement (i’m no expert myself), but if we don’t try, we’ll just stand in the very same situation…

Long story short: The big guilds of BG maybe be ready for the T1 fights, but the PuGs/PvErs that fill the gaps aren’t…

But that’s only my 2 cents…

Setch.2398:

Jeknar.6184:

It may be too soon to say that we lost, but the status isn’t the best right now…

OH GOD I LOVE that picture
edit: not the score, but the picture.

I used to do a lot of score posts with screenshots like this on T2, but i’m disheartened to do it here on T1… The people around here are nowhere close of being fun.

Jayne.9251:

Xirin.8593:

earendil.1290:

The issue BG is facing is that in T1 servers are obsessed with points and rank.
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Good luck to all!

I just wanted to say that this post was awesome. Incredibly accurate and well written. And since it was written by an SBI player, I hope people will give it credence.

Anyway, good luck SBI/SOR/TC in your match-up. Sounds like you all are having a blast with the more balanced T2.

lol this was what was done to TC in Tier 2 tho. Or have you forgotten? It’s the mechanics of the game, the third place server will always be targetted and both BG and SoR did this nonstop to TC.

It’s ok, in the end you guys got what you wanted and moved up a tier, there’s no hard feelings because it’s what you needed to do to get there. But life has a way of showing you different viewpoints, given enough time, and what you’re experiencing in T1 right now is what we saw when we entered Tier 2.

SoR and BG fighting side by side? PREPOSTEROUS!

SoR and BG hate for each other would never allow such thing to happen… I’ve already seen people rather kick SoR out of TC BL (by taking bluebriar) than trying to actually assault the northern part.
And since i’ve been almost all time at SoR BL, i can tell you, if it was all blue, it wasn’t because BG wasn’t there. It was because they were defending it, and hell they do it good.
Of course both BG and SoR problably attacked TC… BG was hungry for points to go back to T1, and SoR wanted points to try keep BG at T2 (by narrowing the gap). But an actual fight side by side would probaly end in both servers killing each other in front of TC base…

It may be too soon to say that we lost, but the status isn’t the best right now…

And i though the “Zombie Coast” was the only ‘suicidal’ server that kept attacking even against the odds…

Hah… Comando joke was a cool April’s fool joke, and the game didn’t even lauched…
Ok, this is it! Less WvW and more BF3!

SoNovel.2715:

The NPC guards you get with the upgrade just protect the yak from whatever hostile wildlife it may encounter along its route, and aren’t meant to be a deterrent against invaders. You and your server mates are meant to protect the yak from invaders.

The only hostile thing in the route is the Sentry if your team doesn’t control it… So guards are just useless since your team is suposed to control the sentry.

CharlieWaffles.1509:

Nah you guys are done no 24//7 Coverage = T2 you’ll be gone in 2 weeks welcome back SBI anyway… its a Marathon not a sprint…

Thanks to the rating system, that’s not happening… I would say BG will be stuck at T1 for at least 6 weeks if the current state (the one seen at the weekend) stand. And that you will have SoR and not SBI. But of course, that’s only speculation… My scrying skills aren’t that good…

Well, i’m sure there are population shifts during weekdays… Now that’s the weekend is over, let’s see if BG will stand, or just finish sinking…

LHound.8964:

Slamz.5376:

LHound.8964:

I would be in favor of a siege tower to bypass the gates/walls. It would be fun!!!

No. Absolutely no.

There would be nothing “fun” about bypassing walls/gates. The only thing it would do is lead to even more takeovers with no PvP. As it is, dropping 4 rams on a gate will let you inside faster than defense can respond, unless they are already there waiting for you. You’re imagining a siege tower as a thing you roll up and drop the ramp and there’s a big fight on the wall but the reality is that it would mainly be used to fast-cap forts before the defense could show up.

It depends. If the Siege Tower could be destroyed fairly easy and got a very slow mobility, or the assaulting towers even appear on the map (being limited to 1/2 per map) would add an extra layer of fun!

EDIT: And if they could only be built in Supply camps, would be better! We would have a more strategic suplly camps, a route to defend while the tower was reaching into the walls, and have yet to reach it’s destination. If a thing like this could indeed reach the gates/walls, then the defenders were really slacking!

How about only allowing the cap after gate breach? We can keep the Siege Towers like this, and would end the wall jumping exploits (since you can only cap after the gates are down).

Cirus.5748:

Aorin.9168:

So now SoS is spawn camping us in EB? I see you are now T1 because you have the numbers and the “night crew”. Not because of any skill or class. I’ve seen better sportsmanship in our T2 encounters.

The Blackgate that showed up on Friday was amazing, it was one the strongest openings to a match up that I have ever seen. Not only that, SoS are ALWAYS first on the opening day, Blackgate are the first server in nearly 4 months to break this rhythm.

If the same Blackgate that showed up in the first 24 hours, showed up on the second day of the match up, the scores would be a lot closer. I do not understand, why the same people that logged in on Friday, didn’t login on the day after, and the one after?

It looks as though Blackgate have given up, it’s a shame because your server is far more capable than this.

I never understood why this happen too… During the Friday, we have queues for 4/4 W3 maps… LONG QUEUES (i already been 1h at EB queue and never got in), not the 5min queue for EB we get on the other days! But it only happen at the Friday! And it’s the same every single week… Even on T2 it was like this…

Judas.5432:

Jeez……do we really have to lose this if we want to stay in T2?

This thread is a total breath of fresh air from the whiny accusatory thread that is T1. I seriously never want to play or interact with those guys again. The sportsmanship and good nature here in T2 makes me want to run out there and kill you guys :-D

Well, unless you lose, you’ll probrably go back up there, because for what I see, BG ain’t gonna last much longer if it stay how it is.

I would be grateful though… I love fighting with SoR here and on the battlefield, but now i’m only being able to see how happy i was at T2, and how pathetic a server blinded can be.