Guild Wars 2

Zikory.6871:

KeeZee.7312:

Cod on Cod.3694:

KeeZee.7312:

BG beat SoR 6 out of their last 7 matches and still proceeded to buy more guilds.

I love how BG’s forum warriors gloss over that fact and still keep saying that they are the underdogs and needed to buy another guild.

Yay, another one bringing up Cash!

KeeZee, would you care to guess how much the fundraiser pulled together in UHD’s abscence please??

I mean, it is constantly brought up, that BG buys guilds and that this stacking is what have ended the possibility of a competitive T1. So the fundraiser about 2 months ago must be the root of all this evil doing.
Go on, how much do you think was raised?

Don’t be mad that BG beat SoR 6 out of the 7 matches and still felt that they needed to keep buying guilds.

Funny how you still don’t count the matches with SoR as easy…….I know why….because that would make BG the server with the easiest matches.

What colour is the sky in the world you live in….Rose?

Hey how many times did BG beat SoR?

Week 01 05-12 January
BG 293 987
SoR 162 173

Week 29 20-27 July
BG 277 319
SoR 189 226

Week 30 27-03 August
BG 257 805
SoR 211 615

Week 31 03-10 August
BG 225 594
SoR 149 621

Week 39 28-05 October
BG 241 574
SoR 306 359

Week 43 26-02 November
BG 331 916
SoR 236 669

Week 44 02-09 November
BG 138 632
SoR 78 847

Translates into BG winning 85.7% of the last 7 matches.

Only BG would say they have it so hard.

Still waiting for the BG post on how leagues aren’t fair because they ended up with the easiest schedule.

Cod on Cod.3694:

KeeZee.7312:

BG beat SoR 6 out of their last 7 matches and still proceeded to buy more guilds.

I love how BG’s forum warriors gloss over that fact and still keep saying that they are the underdogs and needed to buy another guild.

Yay, another one bringing up Cash!

KeeZee, would you care to guess how much the fundraiser pulled together in UHD’s abscence please??

I mean, it is constantly brought up, that BG buys guilds and that this stacking is what have ended the possibility of a competitive T1. So the fundraiser about 2 months ago must be the root of all this evil doing.
Go on, how much do you think was raised?

Don’t be mad that BG beat SoR 6 out of the 7 matches and still felt that they needed to keep buying guilds.

Funny how you still don’t count the matches with SoR as easy…….I know why….because that would make BG the server with the easiest matches.

What colour is the sky in the world you live in….Rose?

Akkadian.7206:

I love all these SoR forum warriors calling BG the most stacked out of the big three due to this unprecedented asskicking they’re taking. That’s why you tried so hard to keep JQ in check, making sure they were third and didn’t truly mind BG taking the one spot the first week, right? Gotta love it. Face it, your strategy backfired horribly. Based on that sound logic, I can see why it must be frustrating playing for fights when those you trust to lead you onto the battlefield lead you through such a big kittenstorm you might as well have walked through a mine field.

BG beat SoR 6 out of their last 7 matches and still proceeded to buy more guilds.

I love how BG’s forum warriors gloss over that fact and still keep saying that they are the underdogs and needed to buy another guild.

BG will say that they buy guilds to balance the matches but when you look at their match history vs SoR they had won 6 out of the last 7 matches and they still felt they needed more players.

In the end Anet gets money so its all good.

gebrechen.5643:

Sunt.6835:

ah ppl need to ignore KeeZee as well. He trolled since week 1 …. he wont be happy until his jq wins…

Look up his posting history. Kezzee isn’t native JQ player, maybe SoS or got paid by Maguuma for pvf.

I was on BG till around March of this year when 15 of us left due to being in queue 7 days a week, Kin Rage, and when JQ lost a few guilds and needed a few players.

The fact that the match history shows BG with the most wins vs SoR and JQ and they still proceed to buy guilds shows BG wants nothing to do with balanced fights.

Sunt.6835:

UltraHiDef.4809:

Seems like ZBs wanted to feel like GD(Good Old Days, ZBs have always freaked out when someone calls GD on TS3) on EU, wipe the kitten out of SFR, except. GD never PvD’d like ZBs and have always backed their words in-game.

They beated up SoR EU until they don’t show any more. So all is left is door and yea tear in forum ..

That goes the same on NA time as well.

ah ppl need to ignore KeeZee as well. He trolled since week 1 …. he wont be happy until his jq wins…

Yes, BG needs to ignore the facts that they beat SoR 6 out of the last 7 matches to justify buying ZD to stack their server even more.

Yes, BG needs to ignore that they have the best record when it comes to JQ/SoR/BG.

Yes BG needs to ignore the facts if they want to keep posting how they had the hardest schedule.

So now that we have established that BG has 4 easy weeks we should see a post from BG on how their 4 easy weeks are not fair for everyone and their win will be tainted.

Or Arcade will keep trying to defend ZD’s bandwagon tactics and BG will keep telling themselves they are the underdogs.

Kiff.8157:

UltraHiDef.4809:

KeeZee.7312:

insy.7083:

For not understanding:
ZBs = ZDs, WWW roster named ZBs in guild ZDs on SFR.

Guys from SoR, r u joking when u blame ZDs in yr defeat?
So many messages about ZDs.. Hm. Thx for PR.
But be better if u will fight vs BG in game.
Thank you.

BG was already beating SoR without ZD, you are correct.

So don’t you think BG buying ZD doesn’t put it in the stacked category?

Of course it does.

And that’s what BG does.

BG never buys guilds, and never over stacks, what are you talking about? It’s all mad skillz. http://blackgatewvw.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1380-bg-arms-race-fundraiser/

What have ZDs done to you, boy? Did they hurt you? coz you sound exactly like most of the NA players from SOR or JQ. Definitely not EU.

ZD jumped on an already stacked server, don’t be mad that it makes ZD look like they wanted an easy time.

I am sure you all believed that BG were the underdogs contrary to them beating SoR 6 out of the last 7 matches the 2 faced each other.

Sorry if jumping to a stacked server ruins ZD’s reputation, only ones to blame are the ones who took the gold from BG.

yriafelc.6124:

KeeZee.7312:

Times BG/SOR/JQ fought each other = 26
BG 10
JQ 9
SoR 7
•All first place finishes

Times BG/SOR fought each other = 7
BG 6
SoR 1
•BG finished first all 6 times.

Times BG/JQ fought each other = 7
BG 3
JQ 2
•2 matches neither BG or JQ placed first.

Seems to me that BG’s matches against SoR were easy fights for BG. Stats don’t show BG to be in anyway considered the under dogs. They actually show them to be the strongest server over all between the 3.

Matches included beginning “Week 01 05-12 January” to present.

Unfortunately, rosters change so much frequently that historical data, while nice, is not an accurate representation of the current state.

Besides, the point of the thread is not about who will win, it’s about how ANet prepared the matches in a non-even way; with who-gets-to-play-whom not seemed to be decided with some reasoning that they can defend.

Andrew Clear.1750:

As far as the schedule goes, this is what you get with 6 team leagues. You aren’t playing each other every week, you are gonna have to deal with that, and with 2 match ups, someone is gonna get 1 more round of t2, in the 7 week season.

Not true though, you can create 6 weeks of tier1-tier2-tier2/tier1-tier1-tier2 then one week of tier1-tier1-tier1/tier2-tier2-tier2; or some other variation with even distribution.

The numbers are from this year. BG has done nothing but to continue to buy guilds. Data depicts the current situation pretty accurately.

Specially the match-ups with SoR where BG was already beating them 80% of the time.

The OP has no facts to back up the post because the actual results of the matches show BG in a much stronger position than the OP claimed.

insy.7083:

For not understanding:
ZBs = ZDs, WWW roster named ZBs in guild ZDs on SFR.

Guys from SoR, r u joking when u blame ZDs in yr defeat?
So many messages about ZDs.. Hm. Thx for PR.
But be better if u will fight vs BG in game.
Thank you.

BG was already beating SoR without ZD, you are correct.

So don’t you think BG buying ZD doesn’t put it in the stacked category?

Of course it does.

And that’s what BG does.

Times BG/SOR/JQ fought each other = 26
BG 10
JQ 9
SoR 7
•All first place finishes

Times BG/SOR fought each other = 7
BG 6
SoR 1
•BG finished first all 6 times.

Times BG/JQ fought each other = 7
BG 3
JQ 2
•2 matches neither BG or JQ placed first.

Matches included beginning “Week 01 05-12 January” to present.

Winning 6 out of the last 7 matches against SoR does not equal a hard match-up.

At the end it may be up to SoR to decide who takes first in leagues.

So BG who has beat SoR 6 out of the last 7 times the 2 faced each other is still trying to say they are the underdogs after they stacked their server again.

Number are only this year.

But I know, BG lost to SoR like last year sometime and nothing has changed since.

Other than BG taking 6 out of 7 matches when they went head to head without JQ.

Times BG/SOR fought each other = 7
BG 6
SoR 1
•BG finished first all 6 times.

Matches included beginning “Week 01 05-12 January” to present.

What’s this about when SoR finishes first?

Times BG/SOR/JQ fought each other = 26
BG 10
JQ 9
SoR 7
•All first place finishes

Times BG/SOR fought each other = 7
BG 6
SoR 1
•BG finished first all 6 times.

Times BG/JQ fought each other = 7
BG 3
JQ 2
•2 matches neither BG or JQ placed first.

Seems to me that BG’s matches against SoR were easy fights for BG. Stats don’t show BG to be in anyway considered the under dogs. They actually show them to be the strongest server over all between the 3.

Matches included beginning “Week 01 05-12 January” to present.

Times BG/SOR/JQ fought each other = 26
BG 10
JQ 9
SoR 7
•All first place finishes

Times BG/SOR fought each other = 7
BG 6
SoR 1
•BG finished first all 6 times.

Times BG/JQ fought each other = 7
BG 3
JQ 2
•2 matches neither BG or JQ placed first.

Seems to me that BG’s matches against SoR were easy fights for BG. Stats don’t show BG to be in anyway considered the under dogs. They actually show them to be the strongest server over all between the 3.

Matches included beginning “Week 01 05-12 January” to present.

Times BG/SOR/JQ fought each other = 26
BG 10
JQ 9
SoR 7

• All first place finishes

Times BG/SOR fought each other = 7
BG 6
SoR 1

• BG finished first all 6 times.

Times BG/JQ fought each other = 7
BG 3
JQ 2

• 2 matches neither BG or JQ placed first.

Seems to me that BG’s matches against SoR were easy fights for BG. Stats don’t show BG to be in anyway considered the under dogs. They actually show them to be the strongest server over all between the 3.

Matches included beginning “Week 01 05-12 January” to present.

Round 2 10/25 thru 11/1
League Red Blue Green
Gold Tarnished Coast Blackgate Sanctum of Rall

Round 3 11/1 thru 11/8
League Red Blue Green
Gold Sea of Sorrows Blackgate Sanctum of Rall

Round 4 11/8 thru 11/15
League Red Blue Green
Gold Maguuma Blackgate Sanctum of Rall

Round 6 11/22 thru 11/29
League Red Blue Green
Gold Maguuma Sea of Sorrows Blackgate

scootshoot.6583:

Sunt.6835:

Sird.4536:

Can I get a list of the EU guilds in this league and what server they are on and future potential transfers.

i would go to JQ. less troll and they play for win.

Now this I agree with. Sird,Transfer to JQ prior to the week 5 matchup and help them beat BG. This way week 7 is a toss up again. Week 7 won’t even come into play if BuyGate beats JQ in week 5.

JQ is gonna do a no show during the BG matches. Everyone feels so bad how Anet rigged the schedule against BG and all those tough matches against SoR.

Congratz on taking first in the tainted Leagues.

Maelwaedd.5842:

KeeZee you mad cos you switched from BG to JQ a couple of weeks ago, yeah you mad

Frayta there are many on BG that wish for nothing more than a balance to the top servers if we could get 9 servers that would be awesome, but its not gonna happen we have tried and managed to get 5 nearly 6 balanced servers before free transfers ended and everyone stacked onto one or 2 servers now leagues came out and they stack to the top 3

It was many months ago (July), when BG already had map queues on all 4 maps and was winning vs JQ and SoR.

And BG has no interest in an even match up. I was there, I know to what lengths BG will go to avoid it.

Nice attempt though.

Again, congratz on buying the EU guild to stack the server………again.

Reverence.6915:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Ok, seriously, I am losing a lot of respect for t1 servers, because of these forums. Almost all the threads are someone from a t1 server crying about something.

Not surprised. There’s been quite a lot of terrible posting from all 3 servers the past couple of weeks.

Meanwhile, in Silver and Bronze tier, the difference between some servers are so big it becomes a karma train 12 hours into the match

You 2 must be new to WvW.

Congratz to the undermanned server for defying the odds and taking first in leagues.

It will be fun to read the posts on how BG overcame the odds, even overcame Anet rigging the match against them.

Everyone should just not show up and let them take first.

After all, they are outmanned by every other server and even have Anet rigging the matches against them.

We should all pity them.

Let them have first I say, after all its not like they can do it on their own.

Congratz to the under-stacked server BG taking first in leagues.

I am sure we will see many posts on how the underdogs won.

Congratz to BG on stacking their server again and taking first.

And they qq about how everything stacked against them……lol

Krashner.6275:

gebrechen.5643:

As if SoR needed help to smash BG.

The problem with thinking like this is if you win you will be at BG’s mercy on week 7 since they will be in a position to determine who wins the league. Mock BG all you want, but there’s a very strong chance it could cost you.

Did BG just tell SoR if they win this week then BG will throw a tantrum and 2v1 them in week 7.

If Maguuma was to play football would one person show up with golf clubs?

Lordrosicky.5813:

Omne.4603:

Given that many high level GvG’s are recorded on youtube its plain ignorant to say 20vs20 is skilless or skill spam. If you GvG any real guild with that attitude of skill spam you will lose.

Are you really suggesting that gvg, or in fact ANY combat, in gw2 is not just spam? There are very few times in any part of the game that you dont just spam everything. There are exceptions but they are rare. Dont pretend 20vs20 is some skillful arena. It isnt. Not that 5v5 or 1v1 is particularly skillfull either. It is spam too. But slightly less than 20vs 20

According to your logic everything is spam.

Should throw in that since rewards are based on the server you started on, there is nothing preventing guilds from moving to a competitors server just to screw them over.

So many ways for servers to game the system.

The test server “overflow” is to test how they can cram more people into WvW. It is only coming about due to Anet’s expansion into China where they have much larger guilds.

If anything it will increase the amount of players if Anet figures out how to do it without affecting performance.

Kreen.3925:

Great fights this week, despite the queues this match up was one of the best I have experienced.

Remember, 7 weeks is a long time in WvW, server empires can rise and fall in that time so no one can really be sure how the next 6 match ups will play out.

Good luck to all for the next 6.

I will give you a hint. JQ comes in 3rd week 7.

The best you can hope for assuming you win the fights against BG and SoR on their own is 27.

Coming into week 7 both SoR and BG will be sitting at 26. Only question I guess is who takes first/second. And both first/second give enough points to give JQ 3rd overall.

This week played out best for BG, so-so for SoR, not good at all for JQ. And week 7 will be a repeat of this week.

JQ is getting 3rd.

BG gained PPT during EU/Ocean timezones both Monday and Tuesday without help from SoR.

Strange that the self proclaimed under-stacked server gained ppt against the 2 stacked servers.

As I said earlier this week…..Congratz on the win BG.

I told you JQ to get off your kitten and stop avoiding BG. Even without SoR’s help they were able to gain ppt over both JQ/SoR on 2 different days. Which is strange for the self proclaimed under-stacked server don’t you think.

I think its funny that weeks 5 and 6 everyone thinks that JQ is going to take 1rst over BG and Sor. If you are basing this off of the weeks before leagues guess what….BG/SoR took it easy leading up to league.

Gonna call it now.

First – BG
Second – SoR
Third – JQ

Vol.5241:

Brutus.5732:

Decklan.7540:

Enough with the 2v1 bickering, it has happened to all three servers this week; no single server can proclaim innocence in this regard.

See there you are wrong. SOR wasn’t 2v1. JQ was 2v1 on JQBL and SOR was 2v1 on SORBL.

What you see now is a formal 2v1. I have no problem with it, if you want to fight that way so be it but don’t pretend you are having great fights. You are winning a 2v1 fight with all the honor afforded such a fight so just lower your gaze and be quiet about it.

SoR was 2v1’d by JQ/BG last night on JQBL. Defended Bay for at least 5 hours.

Everyone gets 2v1’d

The match started with BG and SoR doing the 2v1 against JQ because of Icoa commander making the post about the schedule.

As of yesterday, as I went to every map I saw that we JQ were not attacking BG and only focussing SoR. I asked every commander and they all said the same thing, we aren’t attacking BG, we are attacking SoR only.

Amazingly, somehow BG seemed to be doing the same thing. Guess they were playing both sides and it was time to put that knife in the back of SoR.

Sorry SoR, personally I want everyone to just fight but T1 has become too much about fixing the matches and gaming the system and as of now SoR is the prime target.

Why delete the video of what you created? After all, cant the achievement hunter play the way they want to?

Why would you be ashamed of it?

Fixed matches……like when you sat in TS with SoR to coordinate against JQ?
Or when you had “Backdoorbanker” on SoR feeding you info on Choo, or when he was copy/pasting all their builds onto the Icoa website

Just give it a break and try not to stress yourself too much.

florence.1674:

I have to sincerely disagree. On Desolation, I have logged on twice since Monday and got the Outnumbered buffs.

Queues are returning to normal, or random pvers are realizing that they have to put in more than 1-2 hours of effort to get their achievements and thus quitting.

Another statement pulled out of thin air…………

1) Best time to get the repair achievement is when a wall is being trebbed. Just drain all the supply to get the achievement. The best place to do this is EB if you can get in. Don’t worry if draining all the supply allows the keep to fall. That will just allow you to get other achievements by taking it back.

Some of your fellow achievers have already realised this.

2) The best way to get the capture objectives it to sit on siege and do nothing allowing the other team to flip your T3 keep. Once flipped your team will flip it back allowing you to get those achievements.

3) Demolition…easy. When your team goes to take a keep and says don’t attack the gate/wall just ignore them and attack away. Don’t worry about the orange swords.

Not only did Anet give JQ the easy schedule they also rigged it that only BG and SoR get skill lag and JQ doesn’t.

That is just comedy gold.

Let me join in…..

Anet looked at all the transfers and said JQ doesn’t have a chance compared to how stacked BG and SoR is so they gave us a fighting chance.

And the fact that the under stacked BG server has pulled ahead 2k after NA primetime no way indicates that they are the stacked server.

Comedy gold I tell you.

Reverence.6915:

Solstice.1097:

the same servers that are crying about queues STILL have recruitment threads going so I really don’t get it.

The recruitment threads are for WvWers, not PvE achievement hunters who don’t help out their server, take up spots in the borderlands and won’t stick around after they get their achievements.

Also, based on numbers tonight, none of the T1 servers had queues across all 4 WvW maps. Think about that.

JQ has had queues on all 4 maps since Friday. I know because I have been in it no matter what time I queue. Not sure where you are getting your info from but its false.

Its 11:44est and guess what, I am in queue. Just like the day before, the day before that.

style.6173:

Agree with OP.

It is shocking how few people understand that more players in WvW is a good thing. You also can’t expect those from PvE to know the right way to play. Yes, you will have to explain when to take supply. Yes you will need to explain that their total zerker gear doesn’t work in all cases. Yes, you will have to explain that they shouldn’t suicide your golems.

Most people were in the same situation at one point.

No, the people who were playing WvW with the old achievements were there for WvW.

The only change is the easy achievements. And now there is a massive influx of players.

They are there for the achievements.

I know I know…..logic on the forums.

How people post that this sudden influx of people are there for WvW when the only change was the achievements is mind boggling.

style.6173:

Bringing more people to WvW is a good thing. A lot of people are just too short sighted to realize this.

Bringing more players who want to play WvW is a good thing.

Bringing in more players who just want to chase achievements and get out….not too much.

A lot of people are just too short sighted to see the difference.

BG gained 2k pts after NA went to bed. Dang, BG has it so bad don’t they.

And who owns the person who posted this below?

“The biggest problem that I have with this is ANets home server JQ. While I did see SoR players and BG players lagging like hell (you can tell from them just running around doing nothing) JQ players were able to flawlessly land their attacks and abilities. Ex: Hammer warriors had no problem stunning everything and chaining their attacks.”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/The-LAG-And-none-for-JQ-it-seems

AzzaCin.3691

Major battle taking place in BG BL right inside the garrison. All 3 servers are there, inc JQ and SoR, and a fight has been going on now for about 3 hours now I think. Not even auto attack goes off. Tried to use minions thinking they can attack on their own, those things can’t even walk down the stairs correctly with the lag. Tried to finish downed players and it took around 10 tries for it to actually work.

The biggest problem that I have with this is ANets home server JQ. While I did see SoR players and BG players lagging like hell (you can tell from them just running around doing nothing) JQ players were able to flawlessly land their attacks and abilities. Ex: Hammer warriors had no problem stunning everything and chaining their attacks.

There’s word of ANet addressing this problem but I found nothing. Will there be a fix in the near future?

Punny.9210:

KeeZee is actually a funny dude u know if u don’t take his post seriously . . .

This is the SoR/JQ/BG match forums, who takes anything here seriously.

SoR is pulling ahead…go go JQ…keep that pressure on BG.

Just watched the achievement hunters drain all supply in WC and Klovan in EB and we ended up losing WC…..ya……they are there for WvW.

Kiff.8157:

KeeZee.7312

I thought SoR was only in it for the fights?

I thought BG only wanted fair fights?

Perceived easy time for JQ and both SoR and BG give up what they constantly try to make everyone believe on the forums.

Cheers

so you mean BG and SOR shall give up fighting and give JQ their throne of first Season?
wow, you really think you are something, eh?

Pretty sure both BG and SoR were saying JQ was going to win before it even started. They already gave up before it started.

Cuddlepie.8109:

KeeZee.7312:

Sorry but if either BG or SoR had some perceived advantage they wouldn’t be posting that Anet needs to redo the new league.

They would be saying suck it up and deal with it.

There is a foul smell coming from your soap box.

You may be right about how two entire servers would react in a situation that hasn’t happened.

Or you may just be trying to deflect from what you’re not doing in an actual situation by accusing others of the same behavour in a hypothetical.

And, for the record, I don’t have a soapbox, I’m just the mirror to your Dorian Grey.

You could take your arguments to Anet since they created the issue, naw…..lets just 2v1 and put the odds in our favor.

You are going on about Anet giving JQ an advantage but you have no issues with the 2v1 to get an advantage…..interesting.

Someone is talking out of both sides of their mouth.

At his point JQ will not take first, but since BG was the first to QQ….

Congrats on the win SoR.

Let JQ be the ones to decide.